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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:34am On Dec 14, 2024
Maeve7:
Woke this, woke that. What are they? Comatose?
As if woke is a pejorative 🤣
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:34am On Dec 14, 2024
folake4u:
Lol yes na, Ichie. grin
my level no reach 😭
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:41am On Dec 14, 2024
cococandy:
There’s no self made person in America.
There is no self made person in the world.

Anyone who wants to say the contrary should start by showing me how they gave birth to themselves. We start the discussion there.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:43am On Dec 14, 2024
DeepSight:
There is no self made person in the world.

Anyone who wants to say the contrary should start by showing me how they gave birth to themselves. We start the discussion there.
grin indeed
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 10:43am On Dec 14, 2024
GloriousGbola:
i have to wonder if IbeOkehie is a fifth generation amerian. because that is how most of his takes are.

it is privilege and generational wealth that can insulate you from reality

the north ruled nigeria for decades and refused to use their access to power to properly develop the region. they did not push a culture of western education , but chose to go for basic islamic education for the masses. they did not promote family planning and they promoted overly socialist programs

today 'abokis' flood the south working odd jobs security, okada rider, labor on site
the northern middle class has been fleeing the north in droves to the south, particularly lagos
today it is unsafe for anyone, northerner or southerner to travel most road in the north

and most critically, there is now an almajiri to bandit pipeline. so nigerias security problems are with us indefinetely , because for every boko haram or bandit put down, there are 1000s more almajiri that will take their place, and thousands more are still being born everyday.

but when you are a trumpist who jumps on empty rhetoric you believe that other peoples problems will not become your problems. same way the us said ww2 was not their business until japan attacked pearl harbor.

all the lessons will have to be learned again.
Wonders shall never end.

I swear to God, I thought you were a MAGA Conservative.

It is good that you are not
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:53am On Dec 14, 2024
Meanwhile South Carolina just refiled their equal protection bill that seeks to regard zygotes, embryos and fetuses the same as humans. Such that if the pregnant woman does anything to risk the lives of the unborn, she could be prosecuted as if she walked into the neighbors house and shot them.

Anything could include, heavy duty jobs, air travel, certain antibiotics or other medical treatment intended for the woman that ends up harming the fetus. It’s left to the discretion of the judge who may not even know the difference between the fallopian tube and the ovaries.


Women who are grieving the loss of a wanted pregnancy will be further assaulted by this insulting charade of “seeking justice for the unborn”. Women in physically tasking jobs will be torn between quitting their jobs and depending on a man (if they even have a man) or staying and potentially facing a jury for endangering their unborn.

They’re aiming for American Afghanistan at this rate.


If you’re in South Carolina, call your representatives and ask them to vote against this bill. What a mess.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 10:58am On Dec 14, 2024
cococandy:
Meanwhile South Carolina just refiled their equal protection bill that seeks to regard zygotes, embryos and fetuses the same as humans. Such that if the pregnant woman does anything to risk the lives of the unborn, she’ll be prosecuted as if she walked into the neighbors house and shot them.

Anything could include, heavy duty jobs, air travel, certain antibiotics or other medical treatment intended for the woman that ends up harming the fetus. It’s left to the discretion of the judge who may not even know the difference between the fallopian tube and the ovaries.


Women who are grieving the loss of a wanted pregnancy will be further assaulted by this insulting charade of “seeking justice for the unborn”. Women in physically tasking jobs will be torn between quitting their jobs and depending on a man (if they even have a man) or staying and potentially facing a jury for endangering their unborn.

They’re aiming for American Afghanistan at this rate.


If you’re in South Carolina, call your representatives and ask them to vote against this bill. What a mess.
The same people who scream communists, support the establishment of a police state. Make it make sense.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:00am On Dec 14, 2024
Maeve7:
The same people who scream communists, support the establishment of a police state. Make it make sense.
Yep. That “we hate big government” rhetoric falls flat on its face if they’re over there supporting the govt meddling in women’s menstrual cycles and pregnancies
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 11:07am On Dec 14, 2024
cococandy:
Yep. That “we hate big government” rhetoric falls flat on its face if they’re over there supporting the govt meddling in women’s menstrual cycles and pregnancies
And even against the better knowledge of a woman’s healthcare providers. And who the hell will inform the authorities about the type of antibiotics the woman was prescribed and took?


”Under Erich Mielke, its director from 1957 to 1989, the Stasi became a highly effective secret police organization. Within East Germany it sought to infiltrate every institution of society and every aspect of daily life, including even intimate personal and familial relationships. It accomplished this goal both through its official apparatus and through a vast network of informants and unofficial collaborators (inoffizielle Mitarbeiter), who spied on and denounced colleagues, friends, neighbours, and even family members. By 1989 the Stasi relied on 500,000 to 2,000,000 collaborators as well as 100,000 regular employees, and it maintained files on approximately 6,000,000 East German citizens—more than one-third of the population.“

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Stasi
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by folake4u: 11:09am On Dec 14, 2024
cococandy:
my level no reach 😭
Instead make you tap into the name and say Amen.. cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 11:19am On Dec 14, 2024
folake4u:
With due respect, I find your bolded comment very distasteful. There are lots of brilliant young Nigerian students who got into highly sought courses with hardwork, grit and sweat.

Sometimes, one talks to the average Nigerian elder and you understand why Nigeria has been economically comatose all these years.

Anyways, some things are better left unsaid.

#ThinkingOutLoud.
And I hate when a Nigerian cos you find yourself abroad now uses " that country". His or kits and kin are in Nigeria while he or she communicates and visits " that country "as he or she likes.
Imagine an Indian saying that country cos he has an American passport. Shior.
That is the highest level of low self esteem by Nigerians abroad. They are the ones that change their accents immediately they enter plane for the first time.
You see dome abroad with names like yours snd speak your language, they will tell you" sorry, I don't know what you are talking about". Record have it the person is not up to 3 months abroad.
Nigerians.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 11:33am On Dec 14, 2024
bemeruca:
You hate this man sha
I like him cos he is a man with asperges syndrome that excelled. Recently, more awareness is being promoted by the govt where I live to educate the public about how to live with people like Elon and some others that have challenging behaviour and Elon's name is always mentioned. People with challenging behaviours look up to him. I've been in a training where autistic and other challenging behaviour people are the trainers( yes, you can only know more about them from them) and ther is this particular autistic guy that love Elon so much. He type of autism is diff from Elon but he said he aspire to make a difference like Elon and he is doing that as a teacher and team leader.
Many don't even know Elon has issues but if you watch his interviews and know about these stuffs, it's all there.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by folake4u: 11:36am On Dec 14, 2024
descarado:
And I hate when a Nigerian cos you find yourself abroad now uses " that country". His or kits and kin are in Nigeria while he or she communicates and visits " that country "as he or she likes.
Imagine an Indian saying that country cos he has an American passport. Shior.
That is the highest level of low self esteem by Nigerians abroad. They are the ones that change their accents immediately they enter plane for the first time.
You see dome abroad with names like yours snd speak your language, they will tell you" sorry, I don't know what you are talking about". Record have it the person is not up to 3 months abroad.
Nigerians.
Lol yeah, you garrit.

The highest level of low self esteem I've ever seen.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:42am On Dec 14, 2024
folake4u:
Instead make you tap into the name and say Amen.. cheesy
Amen my sister
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:43am On Dec 14, 2024
Yep. Straight out of fascist playbook

Maeve7:
And even against the better knowledge of a woman’s healthcare providers. And who the hell will inform the authorities about the type of antibiotics the woman was prescribed and took?


”Under Erich Mielke, its director from 1957 to 1989, the Stasi became a highly effective secret police organization. Within East Germany it sought to infiltrate every institution of society and every aspect of daily life, including even intimate personal and familial relationships. It accomplished this goal both through its official apparatus and through a vast network of informants and unofficial collaborators (inoffizielle Mitarbeiter), who spied on and denounced colleagues, friends, neighbours, and even family members. By 1989 the Stasi relied on 500,000 to 2,000,000 collaborators as well as 100,000 regular employees, and it maintained files on approximately 6,000,000 East German citizens—more than one-third of the population.“

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Stasi
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by folake4u: 12:19pm On Dec 14, 2024
kkins25:
Don't forget to add we were banged mercilessly. First, by Waec officials, then by Jamb, then the school admission board, then lecturers, then the dean.. My ass is licking from all that activity... grin grin grin grin grin Never knew, Naija was gay as fvck.
Lmao what is this?

🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:37pm On Dec 14, 2024
cococandy:
Raumdueter what do you think of this statement from your guy here?
There are always two sides of a coin Noone has a magic wand to bring prices unless by elimination of taxes.
Import tarriffs raised can be used to strengthen the border for instance , resulting in more local manpower getting higher wages.
Prices don't come down through proclamations but through policies that reduce inflation, increase production, etc. And these are not instant results .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie:
basilico:
1)We pay taxes hoping it will be for the common good. If paying a lil bit higher price will improve the quality of life, why not.

2) wrt immigration and drug trafficking a lot of families have suffered Federal money is wasted on criminals, handouts to illegals and their jail upkeep.

3) Its not possible for govt to do everything without a small price to pay.
1) As with a lot of policies that go wrong, the best thing is not to fix what isn't broken. The major error of USA trade policy was allowing China into the WTO or granting them MFN in the 1990s. It was a collosal mistake.

Tarriffs are generally a bad policy. However it seems the USA is under siege so anything goes
There are Trump Tarriffs from 2016 that were never removed and are STILL IN EFFECT today.
Americans may also be willing to pay the extra prices. Time will tell.

2) The USA needs to drastically reduce immigration, especially from 3rd World and undeveloped countries. The immigration system has been GROSSLY ABUSED. For example, the statistics show that over 50% of immigrant headed households are on some kind of federal welfare. That's outrageous.

The emphasis should be on a closely monitored GUEST WORKER program of the kind that exists in Saudi Arabia. Such programs already exist in the USA, they can be expanded.

3) Too much government is bad. Leave people alone to live their lives.

Good Luck to Nigeria
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:55pm On Dec 14, 2024
basilico:
There are always two sides of a coin

Noone has a magic wand to bring prices

Prices don't come down through proclamations

but through policies that reduce inflation, increase production

these are not instant results .
If you knew all this why did you support Trump?
His plan was to proclaim the inflation down.
With no actually policies. Except the disastrous tariffs. Which he didn’t even understand what they meant.

As a matter of fact he seemed like he didn’t even know the definition of word grocery with the way he was asking “groceries who even used that word”. Man had no clue what was talking about and y’all stood staunchly behind him.

Sigh. Don’t even bother

The question was for Raum.
I want to know what he thinks about your sudden acceptance of higher taxes.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:30pm On Dec 14, 2024
cococandy:
Ramdueter what do you think of this statement from your guy here?
We pay enough taxes already, Anyone who feels he is not paying enough should volunteer to pay more. America did not become great by taxing the people to death, Its by encouraging to keep more of what they make
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:31pm On Dec 14, 2024
cococandy:
If you guys let republicans talk long enough they’ll show you who they truly are.

We didn’t move to America and all of a sudden decide to abandon all traditional values in place of “wokeness” like they love to insinuate.

After you’ve had a few conversations with them, you’ll quickly come to realization that if they had their way, the country you moved to will rapidly adopt the negative aspects of the country you moved away from because of the kind of policies they support.

There’s something to be said for adopting the best aspects of each system but they don’t want to hear that.
Things like communism and socialism
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by grandstar(m): 3:35pm On Dec 14, 2024
basilico:
We pay taxes hoping it will be for the common good. If paying a lil bit higher price will improve the quality of life, why not.wrt immigration and drug trafficking a lot of families have suffered Federal money is wasted on criminals, handouts to illegals and their jail upkeep.
Its not possible for govt to do everything without a small price to pay.
Import duties will have grave negative implications. It one step forward, and five steps backwards.

Trump intention is not that you pay higher for goods. Unfortunately, that is what will happen.

There is nothing wrong with deporting illegals, but don't throw caution to the wind when doing so. Have you heard the proverb, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater"? It means don't throw the good along with the bad. Trump is throwing out the baby first.

I won't say anything. When the shit starts to go down, you'll know what I am talking about.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by FarmlandInc: 3:35pm On Dec 14, 2024
raumdeuter:
We pay enough taxes already, Anyone who feels he is not paying enough should volunteer to pay more. America did not become great by taxing the people to death, Its by encouraging to keep more of what they make
There was uproar by Republicans when Biden wanted to increase tax and also employ additional IRS agents for revenue collection
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:40pm On Dec 14, 2024
grandstar:
Import duties will have grave negative implications. It one step forward, and five steps backwards.

Trump intention is not that you pay higher for goods. Unfortunately, that is what will happen.

There is nothing wrong with deporting illegals, but don't throw caution to the wind when doing so. Have you heard the proverb, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater"? It means don't throw the good along with the bad. Trump is throwing out the baby first.

I won't say anything. When the shit starts to go down, you'll know what I am talking about.
How is he doing this? Americans heard his message and voted for him more than the alternative
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:43pm On Dec 14, 2024
descarado:
And I hate when a Nigerian cos you find yourself abroad now uses " that country". His or kits and kin are in Nigeria while he or she communicates and visits " that country "as he or she likes.
Imagine an Indian saying that country cos he has an American passport. Shior.
That is the highest level of low self esteem by Nigerians abroad. They are the ones that change their accents immediately they enter plane for the first time.
You see dome abroad with names like yours snd speak your language, they will tell you" sorry, I don't know what you are talking about". Record have it the person is not up to 3 months abroad.
Nigerians.
Don't you also hate when some stupid people call Nigeria a zoo?

Whenever I hear them, all I think is they themselves and their kit and kin must be caged zoo animals with zero self esteem.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum:
basilico:
Import tarriffs raised can be used to strengthen the border for instance , resulting in more local manpower getting higher wages.
Problem is, America does not have the skilled local humanpower to do those jobs and earn those higher wages, and would need to open borders to import it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9f5SQQKr5o?si=dvNhujVYf1GrgKjB
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:52pm On Dec 14, 2024
Exactly. Ontario premier vows to cut off electricity to 1.5 million American households if Trump’s tariffs on candao goes through.

Is that not an example of not thinking things through?
I bet you his thought process didn’t go far enough to wonder about the consequences of such proclamations before he started making them.




grandstar:
Import duties will have grave negative implications. It one step forward, and five steps backwards.

Trump intention is not that you pay higher for goods. Unfortunately, that is what will happen.

I won't say anything. When the shit starts to go down, you'll know what I am talking about.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 4:00pm On Dec 14, 2024
budaatum:
Don't you also hate when some stupid people call Nigeria a zoo?

Whenever I hear them, all I think is they themselves and their kit and kin must be caged zoo animals with zero self esteem.
They are frustrated souls.
It has reduced. There was a time when anytime you come to this forum it's either Nigerians are told they are zoo people, diasporians and diaspora wannabes term nigeria" that country"
Or the accent changers.
Not everybody though.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:15pm On Dec 14, 2024
descarado:
They are frustrated souls.
It has reduced. There was a time when anytime you come to this forum it's either Nigerians are told they are zoo people, diasporians and diaspora wannabes term nigeria" that country"
Or the accent changers.
Not everybody though.
Actually, it is some Nigerians who inadvertently call themselves zoo people, and they don't seem to realise they are calling themselves animals.

Least, that's what they mean when I read them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:20pm On Dec 14, 2024
cococandy:
Exactly. Ontario premier vows to cut off electricity to 1.5 million American households if Trump’s tariffs on candao goes through.

Is that not an example of not thinking things through?
I bet you his thought process didn’t go far enough to wonder about the consequences of such proclamations before he started making them.
China is already retaliating.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrideXRCIc4?si=PGpoFX84v_SDyCdo

Beef is about to become cheap in America when China stops buying.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nart6aYqmWk?si=8cn6WlvbmQ7DxcH9
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:24pm On Dec 14, 2024
cococandy:
If you knew all this why did you support Trump?
His plan was to proclaim the inflation down.
With no actually policies. Except the disastrous tariffs. Which he didn’t even understand what they meant.

As a matter of fact he seemed like he didn’t even know the definition of word grocery with the way he was asking “groceries who even used that word”. Man had no clue what was talking about and y’all stood staunchly behind him.

Sigh. Don’t even bother

The question was for Raum.
I want to know what he thinks about your sudden acceptance of higher taxes.
I support Trump because I believe Obama is the worst leader of our modern times. Nearly everything he stands for I'm against.
Look at the chaos in Ukraine ( Maidan) and the Middle East mess.
Plus he is a race baiter per excellence.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:19pm On Dec 14, 2024
cococandy:
If you knew all this why did you support Trump?
His plan was to proclaim the inflation down.
With no actually policies. Except the disastrous tariffs. Which he didn’t even understand what they meant.

As a matter of fact he seemed like he didn’t even know the definition of word grocery with the way he was asking “groceries who even used that word”. Man had no clue what was talking about and y’all stood staunchly behind him.

Sigh. Don’t even bother

The question was for Raum.
I want to know what he thinks about your sudden acceptance of higher taxes.
You put emotions instead of reasoning when you speak. Trump said he is going to bring the price down, saying it is not an easy task does not mean he cannot do it or has backtracked.
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