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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:01pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:You like going in a circle and talking pit out of point You could not show me real evidence that belivers in bible gave an error In their calculation and your asking me to show you Another nonsense First you don't read properly or you don't know English Read this until you see the real English So the kingdom of God is a continues process and it is different from the end of age or the coming of Jesus Now let me teach you English It says..... it is different from the end of age or the coming of Jesus This statement shows two different outcomes So where did I said Jesus will not come Don't you think you need to go back to school or get a proper memory since you talk out of point |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:04pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
The kingdom of God is continuing then Jesus coming is going to finalise it Jesus coming does not mean that the kingdom is not already here it here in the heart of all who accepts Jesus as Lord and saviour So Jesus coming is just to bring the world to an end there is a difference between them |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:29pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
Kingsnairaland:Guy this is not about English Jesus' disciples had WRONG EXPECTATIONS simple! ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:07pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:It only you and your fake leaders that had wrong EXPECTATIONS.. Only your teachers deny Jesus Lol 2 Peter 2:1-3 “False Teachers: An Introduction to Destruction” “So false prophets also came from among the people, just as false teachers will be among you, who will introduce heresies of destruction, even denying the Master who bought them they bring upon themselves a swift destruction. Peter warn us about your leaders And 1 Timothy 6:3-5, 2 Timothy 4:3-4 False teachers make the Bible say what they want it to say. They are masters of twisting the words, warping the meaning, and convincing their audience that the Bible says something other than what it says. Bible told us to avoid your leaders they bring new teachings that don't reflect what Bible says 2 John 1:10-11 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes I told you no one that is a child of God in the bible ever went against Bible rules. Bible said even if angels appear to tell us a different gospel or when Jesus will come that we should not believe that angel So it same as don't believe that your evil lying leaders So your leaders are from pit of hell. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 3:22pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
Kingsnairaland:I have shown you the truth Jesus' disciples had WRONG EXPECTATIONS as clearly stated in the Bible so it's left to you to accept or reject the truth! ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:26pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:I only pity you because you think your leaders those fake kingdom Hall teachers are more powerful than Jesus lol That why you can't read the Bible for your own self lol Tell them to tell us the next date that Jesus will come lol They told you that they will give you eternal life and you will earn our homes here on earth right lol |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:33pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society publications have made a series of predictions about Christ's Second Coming and the advent of God's kingdom, each of which has gone unfulfilled. Almost all the predictions for 1878, 1881, 1914, 1918, and 1925 were later reinterpreted as a confirmation of the eschatological framework of the Bible Student movement and Jehovah's Witnesses, with many of the predicted events viewed as having taken place invisibly since they lie on each date And nothing actually happened both invisiblely and physically. . Further expectations were held for the arrival of Armageddon in 1975. Which also failed to happen This event shows how fake their leaders are yet their followers are blind to the knowledge of Jesus in the bible |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 3:56pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
Kingsnairaland: Kingsnairaland:When next you want to engage one of Jehovah's Witnesses get prepared for tuition in the word of God. Today you have learned that faithful servants of God in ancient times has WRONG EXPECTATIONS. That's enough for now so at not to porg you! ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:46pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Deuteronomy 18:20 ► New International Version But a (teacher) prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” New Living Translation But any (leader) prophet who falsely claims to speak in my name or who speaks in the name of another god must die.’ This is what God said about your fake leaders and teachers above So they will be put to death when the end of the world comes and lake of fire start to accept those who are fake Because they fail to listen to what Jesus said. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 4:52pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
Kingsnairaland:Cry me a river, servants of God in ancient times had WRONG EXPECTATIONS as proved in the Bible! ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:02pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:I like that you are going in the same circle it shows I have caged you to one prison cell just like God said we will do to those who worship the wrong thing |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:13pm On Dec 12, 2024 |
Kingsnairaland:Seeking attention? Check the next door!
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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:32am On Dec 14, 2024 |
They will be singled out as totally different from all the others because of their faith! Matthew 5:14-16 |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:58pm On Dec 14, 2024 |
“You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. Isaiah 43:10 ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:48am On Dec 16, 2024 |
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets: from jwfacts..com "The data presented in comments on Rev. 2:1 prove that the conquest of Judea was not completed until the day of the Passover, A.D. 73, and in the light of the foregoing Scriptures, prove that the Spring of 1918 will bring upon Christendom a spasm of anguish greater even than that experienced in the Fall of 1914. Reexamine the table of the Parallel Dispensations in STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES, Vol. 2, pages 246 and 247; change the 37 to 40, 70 to 73, and 1914 to 1918, and we believe it is correct and will be fulfilled with great power and glory. (Mark 13:26)" p.62 "The awakening of the sleeping saints, A. D. 1878, was just half way (three and one-half years each way) between the beginning of the Times of Restitution in 1874 and the close of the High Calling in 1881. Our proposition is that the glorification of the Little Flock in the Spring of 1918 A. D. will be half way (three and one-half years each way) between the close of the Gentile Times and the close of the Heavenly Way, A. D. 1921." p.64 "It seems conclusive that the hour of Nominal Zions travail is fixed for the Passover of 1918. (See Rev. 3:14.) That will be 7 years prior to 1925. At that time there is every reason to believe the fallen angels will invade the minds of many of the Nominal Church people, driving them to exceedingly unwise conduct and leading to their destruction at the hands of the enraged masses, who will later be dragged to the same fate." p.128 "Brother Russell put the question to three prominent brethren, all of whom replied that they did not know, but were willing to wait and see. When he called upon me I said, Since the year 73 A.D. saw the complete overthrow of nominal Natural Israel in Palestine, so in the parallel year 1918, I infer we should look for the complete overthrow of nominal Spiritual Israel; i.e., the fall of Babylon. (Rev.18.) Brother Russell replied; Exactly. That is exactly the inference to draw. The conclusion of the Church career comes first. (Rev. 3:14.)" p.129 "The people who are the strength of Christendom shall be cut off in the brief but terribly eventful period beginning in 1918 A.D. A third part are 'burned with fire in the midst of the city.' Fire symbolizes destruction. One large part of the adherents of ecclesiasticism will die from pestilence and famine. (Deut. 32:24.) After 1918 the people supporting churchianity will cease to be its supporters, be destroyed as adherents, by the spiritual pestilence of errors abroad, and by the famine of the Word of God among them. The Sword of the Spirit (Eph. 6:17), which is the Word of God, will be wielded in the hands of 'Present Truth' believers in such a manner as to cause conscientious supporters of ecclesiasticism to cease to be supporters." pp.398-399 "Also, in the year 1918, when God destroys the churches wholesale and the church members by millions, it shall be that any that escape shall come to the works of Pastor Russell to learn the meaning of the downfall of Christianity." p.485 The Finished Mystery was heralded as further proof that the end of the harvest was nigh, and the heavenly class were due to be called beyond "the veil". "It is with sincere joy that we are privileged to report that amongst the activities of the WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY for 1917 the Seventh Volume of STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES has been published and is now going forth. We count this as another one of the strong proofs that the harvest is nearing the end, and that in all probability the Spring of 1918 will mark the beginning of the closing up of all activities of the kingdom class on this side the veil." Watch Tower Dec 15 1917 pp.373-374 A later quote claims that though these predictions were wrong, the dates were correct. That too has turned out to be wrong, since 1925 no longer holds significance to Jehovah's Witnesses. There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1914, 1918, and 1925 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:14pm On Dec 16, 2024 |
We are Jehovah's Witnesses! Isaiah 43:10 |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:35am On Dec 17, 2024 |
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets: from jwfacts..com 1925 1925 was a date set by Rutherford for the commencement of the earthly paradise and the resurrection onto earth of people such as Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. See 1925 for a full discussion on Watchtower expectations for this date. 1932 Another date for the destruction of Christendom, apparently promoted within the congregations by elders. "They [elected elders] had preached that in an early time God would overthrow "Christendom". Many had emphasized the year 1925 as the date, and then when that date did not materialize the date was moved up to 1932. Again, 1932 came and "Christendom" was not destroyed.... Because men tried to fix the date when God would destroy modern Nineveh and God did not back up their prophecy... is that any reason to be peeved?" Watchtower 1938 Feb 15 p.55 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 11:56am On Dec 17, 2024 |
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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 11:08pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets: from jwfacts..com 1935 - Sealing of the Anointed With the progression of time obscure Watchtower interpretation relating to the 1700's, 1800's and 1900's fade into irrelevance. These are thrust aside, relegated to obscurity and replaced with new date concepts more palatable to current generations. A noteworthy example is the date for the sealing of the 144,000, a date constantly changed. Russell originally set it as being 1878. This was moved to 1881, 1910, 1914, 1925, 1931 and finally 1935. In 2007 it has admitted as unknown. The Watchtower 1933 Nov 15 p.343 explained the parable of Matthew 20:1-16 related to the 12 years from 1919 to 1931 and hence the close of the sealing. "Let God be True" 1946 ed. p.298 also discussed 1931 as closing the sealing. (See Watchtower 2007 May 1 pp.30-31) In 1966 this was reassigned to coincide with the introduction of the Great Crowd doctrine in 1935. From that time forward it was presented as gospel that the sealing concluded in 1935, such as in the following article. This is despite no Scriptural reasoning to support the 1935 date, or any other date for that matter. "Logically, the calling of the little flock would draw to a close when the number was nearing completion, and the evidence is that the general gathering of these specially blessed ones ended in 1935." Watchtower 1995 Feb 15 p.19 Exactly what 'evidence' is that? Apparently none, as admitted in 2007. "Thus it appears that we can not set a specific date for when the calling of Christians to the heavenly hope ends." Watchtower 2007 May 1 p.31 There are a number of likely contributors to this admission. By the year 2005 1935 was 70 years prior, somewhat of an irrelevant embarrassment. Even the Governing Body contained few born prior to 1935. Of utmost importance to Watchtower doctrine is the concept that the Great Crowd must obey the direction of the Anointed. In order to be identified as sheep rather than goats and saved at Armageddon they must have demonstrated good works towards the Anointed. With few new admissions to this class eventually who would be left for the Great Crowd to follow. Furthermore, from around 1980 the number of memorial partakers was no longer declining, stable at around 8,000 people. "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 4:57am On Dec 18, 2024 |
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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:00am On Dec 18, 2024 |
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets: from jwfacts..com "The year 1926 would therefore begin about October first, 1925. ... We should, therefore, expect shortly after 1925 to see the awakening of Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Melchisedec, Job, Moses, Samuel, David, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, John the Baptist, and others mentioned in the eleventh chapter of Hebrews. The Way to Paradise (1925) p.224 No doubt many boys and girls who read this book will live to see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Daniel, and those other men of old, come forth in the glory of their "better resurrection," perfect in mind and body. It will not take long for Christ to appoint them to their posts of honor and authority as his earthly representatives. The world and all the present conveniences will seem strange to them at first, but they will soon become accustomed to the new methods. They may have some amusing experiences at first; for they never saw telephones, radios, automobiles, electric lights, aeroplanes, steam engines, and many other things so familiar to us." The Way to Paradise pp.226-227 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:06am On Dec 18, 2024 |
Neither John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, Christ's first century disciples and their modern day counterpart Jehovah's Witnesses never mentioned a specific date rather they're all keeping themselves in a sense of urgency! ![]() |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:31pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 10:12pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets: from jwfacts..com The Way to Paradise described 1925 are the year for Jerusalem becoming capital of the world (p.219), "God's favour returning to the Jewish people", and "ancient worthies" being awakened (p.224). It went on to make the following outrageous predictions; "The Bible and "The Bible in Stone" [the Pyramid of Giza] give the date 1914: for the beginning of the great change. History proves that the ouster proceedings began promptly on time. Prophecy indicates that 1925-1926 will see the greater part of the ousting completed. All the world's statesmen are dreading the next few years." The Way to Paradise p.171 "When you take up a more advanced study of the Bible, you will find that the year 1925 A. D. is particularly marked in prophecy." The Way to Paradise p.220 "Of course it will take some time to get things in smoothly running order after the great stress between now and 1926. It may be ten years or more before you get your home all fixed up, and the gardens bringing forth the luscious fruits and appetizing vegetables in abundance. Even if it takes a while longer you will be that much better prepared. You will have secured the services of the best decorators you can find. Some of them used to be undertakers; but since there are no more people dying, they have had to seek some new occupation. Their experience as undertakers prepared them to become decorators with very little difficulty." The Way to Paradise p.228 The Bulletin October 1920 included an outline on how to introduce the topic of 1925. "Good morning! "Do you know that millions now living will never die? "I mean just what I say - that millions now living are never going to die. "'The Finished Mystery', the posthumous work of Pastor Russell, tells why there are millions now living who will never die; and if you can keep alive until 1925 you have excellent chances of being one of them. "It is an absolute fact, stated in every book of the Bible, foretold by every prophet of the Bible." The following quote shows the superstitious nature of Watchtower followers regarding Watchtower publications, and at the time their continued belief in the relevance of the pyramid. "There are men about the Pyramid who have acted as guides for years. Several of these were sent for and closely questioned. They all agreed that the material was brought there and the construction of this stairway and iron supports began early in July, 1919, and the work was completed about the first of October, 1919. Immediately the writer recalled that it was about the first of July 1919, that the idea was conceived of publishing THE GOLDEN AGE, the first issue of which appeared October 1, 1919. THE GOLDEN AGE announced, and continues to announce, that the establishment of Messiah’s kingdom is at hand, that the time of restitution is here, that the old world has ended and the new is beginning, and that millions now living will never die." Watchtower 1920 Dec 15 p.379 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 10:21pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and the Holy Spirit and Jesus Chrtist cannot stop lying false jw, your org. has given many false prophecies saying; armageddon etc. etc. etc. will happen in a specific year, and when it doesn't eventuate they sometimes twist what they said misleading their gullible goats, and make another false prophecy for you to swallow Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:28am On Dec 19, 2024 |
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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:47am On Dec 19, 2024 |
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets: from jwfacts..com "How much of all this will come to pass in 1926 is not stated. At present we do not find any definite date beyond 1926 indicated in the Scriptures. When the Bible Students found 1914 in the Bible they heralded it far and wide, but the Lord left the curtain down at that date until we had reached it. God set his seal upon 1914, and the work started that year is still going on. We find the date 1925-1926 clearly indicated in the prophetic outline, and the Lord has not lifted the curtain sufficiently for us to see distinctly beyond." Watch Tower 1925 Feb 15 p.58 Increase, then Decrease After 1918, the Millions teaching became the central focus of the preaching effort, being delivered through a series of public lectures by Rutherford and other brothers. These were advertised in local newspapers, as displayed in the following clippings. Preaching that the earthly resurrection would commence in 1925 resulted in tremendous growth for the Watchtower Society. "This resulted in bringing into the sanctuary many more to be members of this remnant consecrated by Jehovah. This was evident from the increasing attendance at the annual celebrations of the Lord's evening meal, 32,661 participating in 1922; 42,000 in 1923; 62,696 in 1924; and 90,434 in 1925. ... 89,278 [in 1926]" Watchtower 1960 May 1 p.282 The converse occurred after 1925 came and went without incidence. Memorial attendance dropped by three-quarters, from 88,544 in 1927 to just 17,380 in 1928. (Watchtower 1955 p.366; Yearbook 1929 p.55) (Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose p.313) It is estimated that as many as 75% of publishers left the religion and by 1935 memorial attendance was still only 63,146.3 It took until 1940 to once again reach the same number of Watchtower followers as the pre-1925 era. "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:21am On Dec 19, 2024 |
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| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 12:27am On Dec 20, 2024 |
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets: from jwfacts..com In 1967, Watchtower wrote that "sudden death" was "only a few short years ahead of us" and to come within the generation that had seen both world wars. "the danger of sudden death is staring you in the face. ... That is exactly the case with the warning that we speak of here, and there are reasons why it can truly be said to be the most urgent warning ever given. ... It is to come within the generation that has already seen two world wars and it is only a few short years ahead of us." Watchtower 1967 Apr 15 pp.243-244 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 12:50am On Dec 20, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ false jw, your habitual lying is forever: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. MaxInDHouse: Check out your comments for the past eight months it's only about Jehovah's Witnesses showing that without us you're lifeless!fraud jw, pointing out lies is what i mainly do here, so naturally most of my posts are to you false jw's you so dum, aren't you: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 1:19am On Dec 20, 2024 |
lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ false jw, you said; "God is not all powerful" so of course your jehovah is not the Jehovah of the Bible: > The Almighty God: Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies. |
| Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:03am On Dec 24, 2024 |
Wish you the best in life! As one of Jehovah's Witnesses, i choose not to celebrate Christmas and view it as an ordinary day. I avoid taking part in the commercial aspect of the holiday and focus on keeping things simple instead. I still strive to be generous and peaceable every day, and i hope you understand and respect my decision . I want you to know that my affection for you goes beyond any association with Christmas celebration. I am always happy to spend time with you. We can still come together and have a great time on any other day of the year. ........................................Yours faithfully Maximus.
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