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From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by uchkochi(m): 8:46am On Mar 11, 2010
All u see on Emmanuel T.v(Tb Joshua station) is organized.Somebody i know went there and said there is more death in the church than healing.He also said u are not allowed to video the service with your phone otherwise it will be destroyed.

Tb Joshua is a prophet no doubt but an Evil prophet from the devil.A man that pastors with fear is of the devil.All the evil prophecies are organized from hell so as to make people believe him but guess what his time is up and Heaven is exposing him faster than can be imagined in Jesus Name. A true man of God stands in the gap.Tb Joshua is not from God.Beware ask members of his church they are all bewitched,to confirm why not go there yourself,don't mind what u see on TV its organized.Beware let the Holy spirit guide you and not 'emmanuel Television'.Remain blessed.
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by Kx: 8:50am On Mar 11, 2010
uchkochi:


2348052773865

whats the fone number for?

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by Mufuadamu: 3:25pm On Mar 11, 2010
I and millions of others beg to differ. I have been there physically as well as watching Emmanuel TV and I am certainly NOT hypnotized. The miracles are real. There is no doubt about it. Just this last Sunday alone was amazing - hundreds healed, a man called Mr Dickson - healed of mental disorder (he had been mad for 14 years, living in the bush - he is completely sound and reasoning well now. Then, number 4 in the world boxer, King Davidson testifying of his victory after coming to the Synagogue for breakthrough. The list is endless and really, there is no denying it - he is a true servant of God as well as being incredibly humble.
So, persecution is to be expected. Go and see for yourself - nothing is arranged. It is real and lives really are changed.

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by skonto: 5:17pm On Mar 11, 2010
I think the miracles TB Joshua performs in the Synagogue Church of all Nations, Lagos, Nigeria, are real. I have never seen any Christian of that Church coming to testify that those miracles are not real. I have never come in contact with him, but I watch him over Emmanuel TV and believe all the miracles are real. The advice I can give to people like is that they should stick to their faith. I am a Catholic and there is no way I can change my faith because of miracles performed in any church. I believe in God and there is only one God.

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by pmartins: 5:23pm On Mar 11, 2010
I really don't understand people,Prophet T.B joshua is not only praying for healing but teaching people to come to christ and that is his great message.If Jesus said those who believe in me,they will do greater things,why are we doubting when christ fulfills it.I think if we want to doubt Prophet TB Joshua we should doubt Jesus first because he was the one who prophesied all these Or someone should prove by the word of God that What The Prophet is doing is not of God and not otherwise.

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by GODSON2009(m): 6:38pm On Mar 11, 2010
@poster
is this what the christianity that the likes of brother stephen died for has become??
is this what the christianity that the likes of apostle paul,peter e.t.c all suffered untold torture,imprisonment and personal suffering has become??
read all you have written as evidence to malign the man's name on a site frequented by thousands of people who would have read your comments and figure it out if it is fair.

i am neither a member of his church,neither do i need any miracle or healing from him thank GOD but even the law says that "he who asserts must also proof" if you have conclusive evidence that he is not of GOD,then post it on here for a reasoned and criticall exploration and debate from everybody,you dont just wake up one day and write libelous and damaging stuffs about anybody least of all a man of GOD.
if you really are a born again and broken christian which i seriously doubt by your assertions,you will realise that before one can make weighty allegations of these sort against anybody least of all a man of GOD,you will need to show more conclusive evidence than open ended and nebuluos assertions it is really sad that christianity has come to this

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by Joagbaje(m): 8:41am On Mar 12, 2010
uchkochi:

All u see on Emmanuel T.v(Tb Joshua station) is organized.Somebody i know went there and said there is more death in the church than healing.He also said u are not allowed to video the service with your phone otherwise it will be destroyed.

Tb Joshua is a prophet no doubt but an Evil prophet from the devil.A man that pastors with fear is of the devil.All the evil prophecies are organized from hell so as to make people believe him but guess what his time is up and Heaven is exposing him faster than can be imagined in Jesus Name. A true man of God stands in the gap.Tb Joshua is not from God.Beware ask members of his church they are all bewitched,to confirm why not go there yourself,don't mind what u see on TV its organized.Beware let the Holy spirit guide you and not 'emmanuel Television'.Remain blessed

2348052773865

Somebody told you, Why dont you go yourself, supposing he had lied to you or pass inacurate information. Why do you take pleasure in criticism. Focus on your own. Leave Tb joshua for Jesus , if he is fake, Jesus knows what to do , he wont last.

Matthew 13:24-30
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: [25] But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. [26] But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. [27] So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? [28] He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? [29] But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. [30] Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by maddock(m): 6:33pm On Mar 12, 2010
@ poster

Will you just sharap your mouth, go and play with sand if you dont have anything useful to do with your time than to be peddling idiotic thoughts and statements. Emmanuel TV is shown live every sunday and whatver is being aired is LIVE.IF you are not mischevious why would you be videoing with your camera phone when you are supposed to be praying. Abi you no know where yankari game reserve dey if you want video anything with your phone.

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by Paschaldasilva(m): 7:56pm On Mar 12, 2010
My people are perished for lack of knowledge. Repent and be saved. Just because of miracle people want to kill themselves.

Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by OgaMadam(f): 1:36pm On Mar 15, 2010
I am sorry.

I sort of beg to differ. just watching that channel, its too good to be made up - the accuracy of those prophecies, i just dont know.
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by GEW: 1:51pm On Mar 15, 2010
uchkochi:

All u see on Emmanuel T.v(Tb Joshua station) is organized.Somebody i know went there and said there is more death in the church than healing.He also said u are not allowed to video the service with your phone otherwise it will be destroyed.

Tb Joshua is a prophet no doubt but an Evil prophet from the devil.A man that pastors with fear is of the devil.All the evil prophecies are organized from hell so as to make people believe him but guess what his time is up and Heaven is exposing him faster than can be imagined in Jesus Name. A true man of God stands in the gap.Tb Joshua is not from God.Beware ask members of his church they are all bewitched,to confirm why not go there yourself,don't mind what u see on TV its organized.Beware let the Holy spirit guide you and not 'emmanuel Television'.Remain blessed

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by GODSON2009(m): 12:48am On Mar 16, 2010
Paschaldasilva:

My people are perished for lack of knowledge. Repent and be saved. Just because of miracle people want to kill themselves.
why dont you prove your assertion before making sweeping statements without any proof
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by Xorenxo(m): 1:32pm On Mar 26, 2011
I have been healed there before(2001) of chronic mouth ulcer or  teeth cancer by T.B.Joshua and there was no filming and photograph of my claim but it is between myself and T.B.Joshua.

So those who have never experienced him before can say anything out of gross ignorance.

They are confirming their weaknesses in the knowledge of the Bible which says they should find out everything and hold fast to what is good/truth (1 Thessalonians 5v17-20).

Secondly they are committing sins by careless statements (Matthew 12v32-35)  because they are putting  their mouth into what they do not know anything about

-This sin has no forgiveness

You can critisise the publicity being given to the miracles but I tell you the truth without seeing some people can never believe.

Joshua did not claim to be the healer so what is the noise about.
If he were from USA I am sure our people will believe him.

I undertook  a 10 years study of the man at a close level and it culminated in my book,'WHY THEY ARE AFRAID OF T.B. JOSHUA ?' which you can purchased  in http://I=Proclaimbookstore.com/whythareafof.html

I f you are interested in what he is teaching from an intellectual or theologians points of view please reach me on 08035807161 and I will send you the list of my materials (I have 10 manuscripts on the activities of the church at various lateral,horizontal and vertical levels so I know what i saw and read and perceived)to you on what I call Christian Spiritual Theology that will enable you to perform greater works than T.B.Joshua if only you can truly and totally believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and stop all negative thinking and negative talking which is denying contemporary christians of the real power promised by the Lord

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by wetu: 9:55pm On Mar 26, 2011
Joagbaje:

Somebody told you, Why dont you go yourself, supposing he had lied to you or pass inacurate information. Why do you take pleasure in criticism. Focus on your own. Leave Tb joshua for Jesus , if he is fake, Jesus knows what to do , he wont last.

Matthew 13:24-30
    Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: [25] But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. [26] But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. [27] So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? [28] He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? [29] But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. [30] Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.


Sorry, Joagbe the field is the world, not the church

Mat 13:37  He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
Mat 13:38  The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Mat 13:39  The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Mat 13:40  As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.


In the Church, false prophets are not to be tolerated. Jesus expects us not to tolerate them:

Titus 1:10  For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Titus 1:11  Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.

Rev 2:20  Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

2Ti 4:2  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.  (anointing water, wristbands)


Of course the Christian way to exercise intolerance for sin or false teachers is to fight them with the sword of the Spirit, the Word of God.

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by wetu: 10:12pm On Mar 26, 2011
Football stars are also called football idols. Why? Because they are idols in many children and adults' hearts. They are gods of this world. Now listen:

Deu 13:1  If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2  And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;


There are two types of false prophets:
1. Those whose prophecies do not come to pass
2. Those whose prophecies come to pass but direct people to other gods and other things and not the Lord Jesus Christ

When a prophet prophesies about results of soccer games, he is pointing people to other gods.
When a prophet prophesies about hollywood stars, he is pointing people to other gods.


Deu 13:3  Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.


A prophet who prophesies about soccer results and Michael Jackson must be put to death (In the New Testament, the sword is the Word of God):

Deu 13:5  And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by e36991: 11:29pm On Mar 26, 2011
@Wetu

Mo gbaladun ee jaare literally means Word up!

If the bread dont cut, put the knife © Ice Prince
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by knightride: 8:24pm On Mar 27, 2011
wetu:

Football stars are also called football idols. Why? Because they are idols in many children and adults' hearts. They are gods of this world. Now listen:

Deu 13:1  If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2  And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;


There are two types of false prophets:
1. Those whose prophecies do not come to pass
2. Those whose prophecies come to pass but direct people to other gods and other things and not the Lord Jesus Christ

When a prophet prophesies about results of soccer games, he is pointing people to other gods.
When a prophet prophesies about hollywood stars, he is pointing people to other gods.


Deu 13:3  Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.


A prophet who prophesies about soccer results and Michael Jackson must be put to death (In the New Testament, the sword is the Word of God):

Deu 13:5  And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God




Sorry Oga.
Your definition of "other gods" is definitely of poor judgement. I agree people worship football and human beings. But whether it is entertainment or politics; the world consists all; and the world would be meaningless without them. Can you say you have no interest AT ALL in football or other means of entertainment?

I'm sure you would have called Jesus many names, if you lived in his lifetime. For the bible says Jesus was criticized by some Men of God because prostitutes, tax collectors and other terrible people sit around him to hear him.

Are Daniel and John the Beloved's prophesying about events only in christendom?
NO! It is all about the world and everything in it.

So please criticize well.

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by mabell: 8:46pm On Mar 27, 2011
@poster,
mr criticism, how many people have you healed,
how many have you given homes,
how many families have you reconciled back together,
how many relief materials have you sent outside this country
or better still how many people have you sponsored their education
maybe you should not open your mouth to speak anywhere using
someone else's assumption!!!
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by jpworld(m): 8:48pm On Mar 27, 2011
Don't be surprise  most of this positive reply about TB Joshua, Alias Man of Dog, is been posted by his Media Officer.

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by Joagbaje(m): 6:06am On Mar 28, 2011
@wetu
wetu:

Sorry, Joagbe the field is the world, not the church

Mat 13:37  He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
Mat 13:38  The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

its still thesame thing, if you feel you want to uproot evil. you follow bible way. intercede. but not this physical attack. you can only do that in the place of you jurisdiction of authority, for example if youre a pastor, you can expel false brethren from your congregation. you have right to protect your sheep.

In the Church, false prophets are not to be tolerated. Jesus expects us not to tolerate them:
2Ti 4:3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.  (anointing water, wristbands)
Titus 1:10  For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Titus 1:11  Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
2Ti 4:2  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
Of course the Christian way to exercise intolerance for sin or false teachers is to fight them with the sword of the Spirit, the Word of God.

The bible never admonish christian to attack ministers because you dont agree with them. you said jesus saysnto stop them but you didnt quote jesus rather you quoted Paul letter to titus and timothy. remeber that Timothy and titus were pastors. apastor has the responsibility to expell false teacher and brethren from his congregation. but he didnt say brethren should attack minister. Paul even told timothy not to Rebuke an Elder. even if you feel they are wrong. Number one, you may be wrong in your assumption, and it will be held as a sin of blasphemy . thats why God says dont judge. you can judge a doctrine , You can judge a prophecy. but you have no right to judge another christian not to talk about a minister. 

Someone who is supposed to be a minister may not be accurate all times. some prophecies may be wrong but that shouldnt be a condemnation on the giver of the prophecy. that doesnt mean he is not of God. that doesnt mean every other prophecy he gives is wrong. there were obviously some mistakes in prophecy in the early church thats why paul said others should judge the prophecies. theres is a different between judging the prophecy and judging the prophet.

I agree there could false prophets but still the bible didnt say you should condemn them. it says rather you should not recieve them when they come to you.

2 John 1:10
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:


To dectect a fasle man, it will show in the fruit of what he profess.The first thing you should find out about them is their profession, what is jesus to them.

1 John 4
1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist
, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, w[b]ho confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.[/b] This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

thats what the bible says. you cant say a man is in error because he prophesied things that are not spiritual. other prophets did thesame. did not samuel prophesied to saul about his missing animal? why would jesus use the power of God to curse an inocent tree to die? is that spiritual? What of prophet agabus in the book of acts who prophesied about world economy melt down in their day. What has a man of God that should be preaching about heaven got to do with Wall Street?

Acts 11:28
28 And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.


We should be careful of judgementalism.
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by wetu: 10:26am On Mar 28, 2011
@Joagbe

I'm not saying I'm not interested in football. I'm saying God isn't interested in football. A prophet prophesying football results is prophesying in another spirit not the Holy Spirit, If I blasphemy then let it be so.

God on the other hand will warn His people of the famine because it affects the Church. Football results do not affect the true Church that is separate from the world.

Daniel's prophecies were prophecies about the future of the world those cannot be compared with a divinator saying: "I see a goal, it's a header" ,"The home team will score first, then they must not try to score again"

I agree. We must not physically attack TBJ. We must not call him or e-mail him with threats. We must not go on Radio and attack his ministry. But when people are talking about him like on a forum like this, we can talk about him. And if we suspect he is a false teacher, it's not a problem.

The scripture commends those who try false teachers, obviously that means those who try true teachers will not be judged because they did what was required of them (Revelation 2:2,2:20). Jesus commended those who tried false teachers and condemned those who did not try false teachers but why didn't he condemn those who tried true teachers?


You can post as many scriptures as you like but the fact is that false teachers will still come in the name of Jesus:
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Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by wetu: 10:32am On Mar 28, 2011
Joagbe: We should be careful of judgementalism
I say, we should be careful of being turned from the truth. Will you still defend this man when he releases this witchcraft:

COMING SOON…WRISTBAND WITH AUDIO DEVICE
The man of God raised people’s spirits when he talked about the new Anointing Wristband and its audio devices that will caution wearers about their behaviour and movements. According to him, the wristband is devised to remind you about your prayers, to ask you to check your tyres or to stop because of armed robbers.

http://tbjfansuk./2011/03/17/god-shows-himself-strong-as-a-disgusting-neckback-ulcerd-healed-after-tb-joshua-prayer/
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by wetu: 10:44am On Mar 28, 2011
Joagbe: "but you didnt quote jesus rather you quoted Paul"
Joagbe, you are not God's word like Pastor Chris told you, Jesus is the Word of God. When I quote the Word of God, I can say "Jesus wants us to" or "Jesus expects us to" as long as I don't say "Jesus said" that will confuse people but in actual fact I can also say it to those who are followers of Jesus and not bible scholars and followers of men.

This is why some Christians are rebellious towards Jesus, they do not understand that He is the Word of God. Therefore they study the Bible to try justify their disobedience:

when the Word says: "do not labour to be rich", they have a scripture to fight it.
When the Word says: "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world", they find prophets to prophesy to them things of the world and they love to have it so.

Isa 30:1 Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:
Isa 30:2 That walk to go down into Egypt, and have not asked at my mouth; to strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh, and to trust in the shadow of Egypt!
Isa 30:3 Therefore shall the strength of Pharaoh be your shame, and the trust in the shadow of Egypt your confusion.

Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by wetu: 11:11am On Mar 28, 2011
mabell:

@poster,
mr criticism, how many people have you healed,
how many have you given homes,
how many families have you reconciled back together,
how many relief materials have you sent outside this country
or better still how many people have you sponsored their education
maybe you should not open your mouth to speak anywhere using
someone else's assumption!!!


Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by Enigma(m): 11:13am On Mar 28, 2011
wetu:

@Joagb[aj]e
. . . You can post as many scriptures as you like but the fact is that false teachers will still come in the name of Jesus . . .

Consider what someone said not long ago.

Demain_man:

This joagbaje knows how to distort the bible no be small. . . .

'Nuff said!  smiley
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by firebrand: 1:04pm On Mar 28, 2011
Wetu, thanks for your contribution.
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by mabell: 2:25pm On Mar 28, 2011
@Joagbaje,
ride on
as it is, the truth must be told whether people agree or not
people have gotten too used and comfortable to being judgemental about pastors all in the name of shielding and saving people and revealing men of God
It's a big shame
how i wish this same energy they use can be diverted elsewhere or better still converting men to christ
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by Joagbaje(m): 3:01pm On Mar 28, 2011
Enigma:

Consider what someone said not long ago.
Quote from: Demain_man on February 09, 2011, 10:49 AM
This joagbaje knows how to distort the bible no be small. . . .
'Nuff said!  smiley

Very funny. That's the opinion of few people here . Many others believe otherwise. I believe deep down what you wanted to say "joagbaje knows the bible. grin . But because you have taken a stand to oppose anything from joagabje it becomes a challenge to make a change.
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by wetu: 3:20pm On Mar 28, 2011
mabell:

@Joagbaje,
ride on
as it is, the truth must be told whether people agree or not
people have gotten too used and comfortable to being judgemental about pastors all in the name of shielding and saving people and revealing men of God
It's a big shame
how i wish this same energy they use can be diverted elsewhere or better still converting men to christ

You are judging! This makes you guilty of two sins, judging and hypocrisy because you say "do not judge" yet you judge those who judge. It is impossible for a Christian not to judge, that's why the Lord said:

Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by Joagbaje(m): 3:29pm On Mar 28, 2011
@Wetu.

So are you Jesus? You make me laugh. See who is talking about judging grin when you have obtained a degree in it. You're judging by appearance and not according to truth. You are not given right to judge any man. You may judge doctrines .

wetu:

Joagbe: "but you didnt quote jesus rather you quoted Paul" 
Joagbe, you are not God's word like Pastor Chris told you, Jesus is the Word of God. When I quote the Word of God, I can say "Jesus wants us to" or "Jesus expects us to"

So does your Jesus "expects" you to judge and condemn others?

Luke 6:37
37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: 

Romans 14:10
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Matthew 7:1
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Romans 14:13
13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in [his] brother's way.

Romans 14:4
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.


This is why some Christians are rebellious towards Jesus, they do not understand that He is the Word of God. Therefore they study the Bible to try justify their disobedience:

Dude if you don't know what to say, just save it. I have given you enough scriptures to show you how wrong what you guys are doing. You can't creat your own bible . If I'm wrong , dispute what I'm saying with the bible .

If someone says he believes in Jesus christ as his saviour and lord , you have no right to say he is not. It takes the holyghost for a man to confess Jesus openly.

1 Corinthians 12:3
 no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.


Jesus himself had declared that those who are not against him are for him.

Luke 9:50
50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid [him] not: for he that is not against us is for us
.

So why jumping on another man's case , to his master he stands or fall. If he is doing wrong, leave the judgement to God. God knows what to do.
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by nuclearboy(m): 4:09pm On Mar 28, 2011
Oga Jo is reloaded arrogantly again. WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS PERSONAL rather than doctrinal and of course you fear that!!

You say it takes the Holy Ghost for a man to confess Jesus openly! So tell us - what spirit makes demons tremble and know Jesus is Lord? You are confessing and living a dirty life. They "know" (that is greater than "talk" which you may not mean) and they also live the same life. Your fruit and theirs is cheating, lying, defrauding etc. The Devil is here to steal, kill and destroy. That describes both you and demons perfectly. So what is the difference?

You "judge" your pastor chris by appearance because he says the right things and behaves the right ways in front of the world yet the truth is that it is his fruit that God and indeed, serious Christians look at and mehn, his fruit wowo pass terrible - even demons are more manageable. Yet you say "wetu" who is telling you the truth is judging by appearances while you are looking at fine hair and face and smooth gist!

The Apostle said clearly "My works show my faith. Show us your faith without your works". Where are your pastors works? The frauds, fyneguy, thuggery, etc. Which supposes that we have to assess and judge and as "wetu" already pointed out, those who tested the spirits were commended by Jesus.

PS: You do NOT know the Bible - what you know is how to use it to sell your market. That in itself proves your paucity of truth and knowledge.
Re: From TB Joshua's Church, Don't Be Deceived By Emmanuel TV Go And See, Its Fake! by Joagbaje(m): 4:14pm On Mar 28, 2011
Which one be dis ? grin what has tb joshua matter got to do with pastor chris? Can't you just stay on the bible? If you are really sure of what you're saying . All these daaru system don't sound mature.

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