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| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by nwirinedu(m): 8:31am On Dec 18, 2024 |
This foolish woman is teaching mothers how to finger their daughters. Is this not violation of their sexual rights. See wetin idleness dey cause. She never shared the results of her daughter's virginity test, am willing to bet her daughter failed the test. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by 4KNGOAT: 10:29am On Dec 18, 2024 |
BuharisBoy:Before God and man did you earn it?? Tell me pls. Fkn parasites |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by WeirdAlien: 10:55am On Dec 18, 2024 |
So when you check and discover she's not a virgin, what do you do? Throw her away?? Nonsense! |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by triplechoice(m): 10:59am On Dec 18, 2024*. Modified: 12:42pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
budaatum:I'm afraid you and some others here have overacted and unfairly judged the woman as sexually abusing her child. Although her action appears tastelessly indecent,it's not one we should interpret as sexual abuse. She has only acted ignorantly and need someone to educate her on the proper way to bring up her daughter without having to do what she described. Sexual abuse is when one intentionally tampers with the sensitive body parts of another without their permission in order to drive sexual pleasure from it ,if not, doctors who examine the privates of their patients are also sexually abusing them . This is between a mother and her underage daughter. And besides both of them like a doctor and his patient, are fully aware of the reasons for the physical examination which you deliberately ignored . |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by LilMissFavvy(f): 12:21pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
This is not right, government need to do something about people like this. Your duty as a parent is to teach the child the way he/she should go, that's what your Bible says. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by budaatum: 1:28pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
triplechoice:Really? No one derives pleasure from female genital mutilation neither, likely not even the doctor, nor is permission of the mutilated sort, so would you also classify that as not sexual abuse? I guess you can define sexual abuse however you want to when you are sexually abusing others, but I'd strongly advise you consider your daughter's feelings and her eventual reaction when you subject her to this sort of humiliation. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by triplechoice(m): 3:50pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
budaatum:FGM is child abuse and not child sexual abuse. You don't seem to know the difference. And you failed to answer directly if doctors who examine their patient's privates, just like the woman, are also involved in sexual molestation . I guess you can define sexual abuse however you want to when you are sexually abusing others, but I'd strongly advise you consider your daughter's feelings and her eventual reaction when you subject her to this sort of humiliation.You really have mastered the act of giving a dog a bad name. I didn't define it the way I want to ,nor supported what she did because of what your corrupted imagination has suggested to you about my person,but to let you know you have judged her wrongly by not knowing correctly what qualifies as sexual abuse And it cannot be true that a female child of 6 who's already used to her mother washing her privates regularly whenever she's bathing her will feel humiliated in anyway if the same mother chooses to examine the same privates for for evidence of sexual abuse. The child at that age doesn't know much to make of it what your adult mind is trying to make of it . Please in your next reply which I expect, don't forget I said I'm not I support of the mother's action . What she did, (a lot of mothers especially in these parts are also guilty of the same) is very crude and uncivilized, not sexual abuse. She acted ignorantly. That's all .If she were sexually abusing her daughter,she wouldn't come to social media to describe it |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by budaatum: 4:20pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
triplechoice:Hopefully you'd refrain from both. triplechoice:Was this woman examining her consenting patient's private part? I would think you'd go to a doctor as a patient to have your private parts examined because you have an ailment and not because some woman wants to check for you. triplechoice:Jesus Christ! Are you going to check at 7 too, and all the way up till when she's 16 because she's used to it? triplechoice:Why are you not in support of it if it is not an abuse of the child's, specifically, sexual bits, along with her general psychology? triplechoice:Indeed she acted ignorantly and did not know she was sexually and physically and psychologically abusing her daughter, but I do wonder why you'd expect me to be ignorant like her instead of telling her how ignorant she is and what damage she would be doing to her daughter. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by bammo: 4:44pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
GboyegaD:Your write up is full of errors |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by budaatum: 4:47pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
To be honest, I'm not surprised this woman's home is already infested with sexual abuse, and I can't help wonder how she was checking her son's virginity that made him sexually active so young and on his 6 year old sister! One of my daughters (6 years old) said; |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by cezarman(m): 4:54pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
Imagine being the child of such person. Many religious people are actually chronic sadists. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by Akpatan: 5:02pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
I can't fit laugh Hehehehehe |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by pretydiva(f): 7:19pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
Scamburster:Amen🙏 And you too |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by pretydiva(f): 7:19pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
VaginaAcademic:Ok. Having sex makes one pure? Wahalad🤣🤣 |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by VaginaAcademic: 7:41pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
pretydiva:it doesn't either |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by triplechoice(m): 8:03pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
budaatum:Please try to take control of your imagination so you don't continue to imagine things about me I will never think of ever engaging in Was this woman examining her consenting patient's private part?Are you even thinking of what you're saying? What consent does a mother need from her own child to find out if she has been molested if she suspects so? You have not reasoned like a parent at all . I would think you'd go to a doctor as a patient to have your private parts examined because you have an ailment and not because some woman wants to check for you.Some parents sometimes take their female child to a doctor for checking if they suspect sexual abuse. Now, from what you have been arguing the doctor has not sexually abused the child if he or she does the same thing the mother would have done if she, the mother ,knows how go about checking her daughter herself at home. You were quick to judge the mother's action as sexual abuse but have refused to the same for the doctor's. Why? You have refused to answer directly Jesus Christ! Are you going to check at 7 too, and all the way up till when she's 16 because she's used to it?Please stop making this about and find out from mothers who are doing that to their daughters . I never announced to you I do the same. Why are you not in support of it if it is not an abuse of the child's, specifically, sexual bits, along with her general psychology?I don't support it because it's an ineffective method of teaching a child sex education. What then happens when the mother is no more to check? Indeed she acted ignorantly and did not know she was sexually and physically and psychologically abusing her daughter, but I do wonder why you'd expect me to be ignorant like her instead of telling her how ignorant she is and what damage she would be doing to her daughter.Tell her the exact thing she's doing wrong first before going ahead to educate her on the correct way There's no sexual or physical abuse. The examination ,from the way she described it, was done without any violence or any intent to sexually abuse her daughter. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by budaatum: 8:20pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
triplechoice:Considering the toxic home she's cultivated where her own son is also doing the molesting, I'm rather not surprised she suspects. And if this checking is routine from age 6, I'm not surprised at the poor girls premature sexual awakening. If the mother had focused on the 6 year old learning maths, she'd likely be cultivating a mind of academic excellence instead. triplechoice:The mother agrees with you. Those who do fgm on their daughters also do not believe they are abusing their daughters I and many others here however do not agree that it is not abuse, and would rather such abuse not be inflicted on peoples' daughters even by their own mothers. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by triplechoice(m): 7:36pm On Dec 20, 2024*. Modified: 6:46pm On Dec 22, 2024 |
budaatum:What are you even saying? The daughter was molested by those who should be protecting her and not that she decided to experiment or satisfy her curiosity because of 'any "premature sexual awakening" If the mother had focused on the 6 year old learning maths, she'd likely be cultivating a mind of academic excellence insteadYou assume too much. What do you know about the woman to conclude she's not teaching her child anything ejse apart from what she described The mother agrees with you. Those who do fgm on their daughters also do not believe they are abusing their daughtersFGM ,I already explained,is a very violent form child abuse which is not the same as child sexual abuse even though still violent.. you're comparing apples and oranges. FGM is child abuse but not exactly the same kind of a abuse is child sexual abuse. Yes,the mother's repeated action of checking may distress the child at some point and effect her mind, I know, but there's no evidence of sexual abuse in what she narrated. Sexual abuse is your own subjective reaction to what she described . Sexual abuse is an intentional act ,if not, anyone who inadvertently touches another sensitive body part in a very tight space,an overcrowded elevated, for instance ,is guilty of sexual abuse. There's no evidence from her story of sexual abuse.What she described is exactly the same a doctor in any hospital will perform first on any female child to ascertain if she has been sexually abused .A doctor will open it just like the mother . I and many others here however do not agree that it is not abuse, and would rather such abuse not be inflicted on peoples' daughters even by their own mothers..Then you and the "many others" have reacted by displaying tribal thinking. Since others are saying the same thing, it doesn't matter for you if it runs contrary to evidence, ,you believe you're correct . That's how the tribe thinks. You're deliberately using the word, abuse, vaguely. Abuse exist in different forms. So which one ? Be specific so we can agree on something. I accept your psychological abuse, but reject sexual and physical abuse. No evidence for those ones in the story. If you can find any please bring it. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by Hassanmaye(m): 1:24pm On Dec 21, 2024 |
chatinent:Blood of Zacharia are you sure it works? |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by Hassanmaye(m): 1:25pm On Dec 21, 2024 |
Omoawoke:Blood of Zacharia!! |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by budaatum: 3:50am On Dec 24, 2024 |
triplechoice:"Sexual abuse is an intentional act", is like you claiming you raped me only if you intended to rape me, and if you didn't intend to rape me but raped me any way, it is subjective of me to claim you raped me, and if its not in a "very tight space" its not even rape. I hopefully do not need to say I see it different. triplechoice:There is a lot of evidence of sexual abuse in her story. She after all narrated that her 6 year old daughter was raped by her own son. And that's apart from her own sexual assault of her daughter. For your information, sexual abuse and rape can be subjective, and thankfully, it is subject to the abused or raped person, regardless of what the raper or abuser may think or the space in which the person raped or abused. If it wasn't subjective, and if it was down to the abuser or raper, a sexual abused and raped person would not have a valid allegation. triplechoice:There is no requirement for you to accept anything I say, Triple, and neither are you under any obligation to. Since your subjectivity is equally as valid as my own subjectivity as far as I am concerned, my poison does not have to be your poison. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by triplechoice(m): 7:42pm On Dec 24, 2024*. Modified: 9:26pm On Dec 24, 2024 |
budaatum:. Rape is a deliberate act. Rapist don't rape their victims unintentionally. . No one who has ever raped another has done so by mistake or unknowingly.It's shocking and really disappointing for you to suggest rape can be by mistake . The definition for child sexual abuse, or any kind of sexual abuse as an intentional act, is by the experts,not me. Even without them, every reasonable person knows rape or child sexual abuse is done knowingly, by the abuser .Please use Google because I see you have a very casual and stubborn understanding of what sexual abuse is. The reason it's judged intentional is the sustained physical stimulation of the victims sexual parts by the abuser resulting in an arousal or orgasm. Is there any evidence that the mother's intention was to cause those in her daughter and not merely to check if she has been abused?. You're unable to answer this important question since we started this conversation. There is a lot of evidence of sexual abuse in her story. She after all narrated that her 6 year old daughter was raped by her own son. And that's apart from her own sexual assault of her daughter.We"re talking about the mother, not the son, whom I said you accused wrongly of sexual abuse . So, focus on her, and provide evidences of the sexual abuse she committed against her daughter . For your information, sexual abuse and rape can be subjective, and thankfully, it is subject to the abused or raped person, regardless of what the raper or abuser may think or the space in which the person raped or abused. If it wasn't subjective, and if it was down to the abuser or raper, a sexual abused and raped person would not have a valid allegation.1. Unfortunately for you, no judge in a court of law will accept your subjective assessment as evidence and pass judgement in your favour. You need to prove your case beyond reasonable doubt . You, and not me has accused another of something. So the onus lies on you to prove your accusation of child abuse with evidence. 2. I never said sexual abuse can't happen in a tight space,but said if sexual abuse is not an intentional act , anyone who inadvertently touches a female in a place like that is guilty of sexual abuse. I don't like how you keep misquoting me. There is no requirement for you to accept anything I say, Triple, and neither are you under any obligation to.I said so because I noticed you were representing me by making it seem I support any kind of abuse. I asked you to be specific and stop using the word, abuse, vaguely. Since your subjectivity is equally as valid as my own subjectivity as far as I am concerned, my poison does not have to be your poison.If you could please provide evidence of sexual abuse committed by the mother on her daughter , then I accept the subjectivity tag. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by budaatum: 9:08pm On Dec 24, 2024 |
triplechoice:The below is from the Metropolitan Police. The legal definition of rape is when a person intentionally penetrates another's vagina, anus or mouth with a penis, without the other person's consent. Assault by penetration is when a person penetrates another person's vagina or anus with any part of the body other than a penis, or by using an object, without the person's consent.Notice its twofold. Anyone, or shall I say most, or at least many, reading the definition above would understand that you can not unintentionally penetrate another's vagina, anus or mouth with a penis without the other person's consent. And if you do, it is obviously rape, since you must have disregarded the person's lack of consent, and intentionally gone ahead and forcefully penetrated the person. It can't be something done unintentionally or by accident, or your get out of jail card would read "I did not intend to rape her", and I just don't see that fly anywhere. If you penetrate me without, and especially against my consent, your intentionality is very much obvious, is the point, since you can't exactly claim you did not intend to rape me. The recent conviction of those who used such a banal excuse after raping Dominique Pélicot proves that point. Some claimed they thought she consented to sex which it was their intention to have with her, and not to intentionally rape her, but they will be spending time in jail for rape. In some countries, like the one I live in a husband can even be jailed for spousal rape for penetrating his wife against her consent. A Guide to Marital Rape LawAnd so you may see how subjective it is, it is not a recognised crime in many countries or even states in the same country. Reform of the exemption has been slow and tentative in the United States. Only two States -- Oregon and New Jersey -- have abolished the marital exemption rule. The legal systems of most countries exempt the husband from prosecution for the rape of his wife. In Russia, Czechoslovakia, and Poland, however, husbands may be charged with marital rape.You just try puling that in Nigeria and see how far you'd get. Now, for the sexual abuse I'm insisting on in this particular case, I think we've agreed that is my subjective opinion. You at least have accused me of being subjective, to which I plead guilty as charged. Basically, in my own subjective opinion and view and in my own book, what this mother did to her daughter, who is obviously under the legal age to consent, is sexual abuse. The mother did after all intentionally penetrate her daughter's vagina. And the consent aspect is mute, since it is recognised that a minor can not consent to having her private parts penetrated by anyone If the mother did what she did where I live and if the authorities hear of it, she will most definitely be arrested for sexual abuse, and I would not in the least be surprised if she is also done for statutory rape, since it is not a valid excuse to claim a minor gave consent. She'd at least have social services on her ass until her daughter is an adult. Also it is a physical, psychological and emotional violation, especially if the mother intends to keep checking her daughter's parts until she presumes her daughter is old enough not to be checked. triplechoice:And this is the reason I wrote all the above, which I respect you for reading. The mother has provided sufficient evidence herself, and if she lived in UK, she would have been arrested already based on the evidence (confession, even), that she provided on facebook. But I have no intention of making you accept my subjective tag, Triple. It is my subjective tag, as in my own view and opinion about what the mother did, and it is the view also in the country I live in, and is not a view that I intend to rape your own subject to adopt unless you live in a country that shares my opinion and view and subjectivity, to wit I'd urge caution, though I am very certain that regardless of however you choose to view what she did, it is not something I feel you intend to do yourself so my urging is unnecessary since you are smart enough not to need warning from me. Sexual abuse (of a minor), and rape (of anyone), is subjective. The rapist may claim they were having sex, while the raped will claim they did not consent. But consent does not apply where the penetration of minors are concerned, and that's why grown ups should stay away from the private parts of minors, in my own very subjective opinion and view, and even where the law does not see it as a crime, but I recognise milage may differ, legally, elsewhere. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by triplechoice(m): 11:24pm On Dec 24, 2024*. Modified: 2:30pm On Dec 27, 2024 |
budaatum:What you brought in, doesn't apply to the mother at all.You're misapplying data. You have abandoned the phrase, child sexual abuse, which you started with and accused the woman of, for the word,rape, and Googled the wrong thing Molestation ,and not rape, is the word often used to describe a small child that's being or has been molested sexually by an adult. Moreover, you have also ignored the fact that this is between a mother and her own daughter who completely depends on her mother for every single thing ,which includes bathing and cleaning her up whenever she poop in order to teach her to do it herself when she grows older. So, there's nothing out of place and nobody will frown at it , not even in the so called civilised clime ,if the same mother decides to check the same sexual parts which she bathes regularly if she suspects that her daughter has been sexually violated in order to report it to the appropriate authority. No mother who has ever done that and report it has ever been accused of child sexual abuse,not to talk of rape. You obviously have no experience raising a female child or closer to those who do,and so don't know what most mothers do if they suspect anything. Only a perverted mind would think of child sexual abuse, not to talk of rape from what was narrated. And because every mother is "permitted" to check, they sometimes discover their daughter is being or has been molested by an adult who has threatened them not to talk or they die.Lots of child molesters have succeeded with that. Or you don't want such persons to be exposed so they continue with their abuse of minors undetected ? The woman never described penetrating her daughter's vaginal with her fingers or stimulating it with it . What she did is the same a medical doctor would do to check for evidence of violation. She placed her fingers on top,not inside and gently open it to see if the hymen is still intact . But like I said ,if she repeats all the time, without any reason for doing so ,then it's wrong and can become an abuse, not child sexual abuse. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by budaatum: 4:14am On Dec 25, 2024 |
triplechoice:You will not present the excuse in the first paragraph above if it were the father doing what the mother has done and for the same reason the mother has claimed to have done what she did. And hopefully, you would also not claim fathers do not bath and clean up their daughters whenever she poop in order to teach her to do it herself when she grows older, so therefore claim it is impossible for a father to have the same concerns and do the same check, which I have referred to as sexual abuse. Regarding the second paragraph above, if she repeats it all the time for the same reason she did it the first time as opposed to your "no reason at all, I don't mind you calling it abuse, as you have done. But do note that for me it is sexual abuse, and I prefer to call it that because that makes it even more heinous and unacceptable, which is what it is in my own subjective opinion. Please be aware that while I am having this discussion with very intelligent you, a certain stupid idiot is saying what you may read in the link below, which might inform my you better about my subjectivity. https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-president-elect/4703#133428462 Thank you immensely for your time and your sense, Triple. We have not engaged for a while, and I do appreciate you and wish you a Merry Christmas. And on this note, buda rests. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by budaatum: 4:27am On Dec 25, 2024 |
cezarman:They will tell I struck out those word because definitely not you but I did not know how to rephrase. Forgive me please. |
| Re: Pastor's Wife Teaches Women How To Check Their Daughters' Virginity by triplechoice(m): 12:35pm On Dec 27, 2024 |
budaatum:I hope you're not projecting yourself? I'm not the kind of person to sexualize the action of a parent, whether father or mother, bathing their six year old female child ,or the examination of the body for evidence of sexual abuse in order to report it . Supposing the father is a medical doctor who has been assisting other parents to confirm sexual abuse? He shouldn't check her own daughter so people like you don't accuse him of sexual abuse? Unless there's evidence of an abuse going on,bathing or examining a small child by parents is private family business an outsider shouldn't poke nose into . Regarding the second paragraph above, if she repeats it all the time for the same reason she did it the first time as opposed to your "no reason at all, I don't mind you calling it abuse, as you have done. But do note that for me it is sexual abuse, and I prefer to call it that because that makes it even more heinous and unacceptable, which is what it is in my own subjective opinion.Your subjective opinion is not truth. And unless you don't like standing for what's the truth, you should know it's wickedness to accuse another person of a crime as heinous as child sexual abuse without evidence they committed the crime. It's lying about them to defame their character The evidence for child sexual abuse has been given if you bother to check for it. Actions springs from thoughts, and so, for a perfect understanding of another person's actions, the reason behind what they have done should be given equal consideration and not ignored,if not, we stand risk of misjudging them. Please be aware that while I am having this discussion with very intelligent you, a certain stupid idiot is saying what you may read in the link below, which might inform my you better about my subjectivity.Checked it out but since I don't know the Genesis, I couldn't make anything out of the conversation going on there. Thank you immensely for your time and your sense, Triple. We have not engaged for a while, and I do appreciate you and wish you a Merry Christmas.Oh! I'm also very grateful for you spending your time to respond to my replies. I wish you the same Merry Christmas. Thanks. |
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