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I'm bringing this here not because of the money I lost but I want to prevent more victims.

Okoroemeka is a disguised scammer. Don't buy seeds from him especially if your place is far.

Currently he's having some damaged pepper seeds, when you order for pepper seeds he'll deliberately send the damaged seeds and when you complained, he will tell you to just nurse it and let's see if some will germinate, of which he knew it will never germinate. He will promise to send you a replacement if it doesn't germinate, then later turn around and accuse you of being the one who damage the seeds.

I stopped doing business especially online transactions with fellow Nigerians long time coz it always lead to regret but I just want to try this guy because of what he has been posting in this agric session.

Xpol:
I'm bringing this here not because of the money I lost but I want to prevent more victims.

Okoroemeka is a disguised scammer. Don't buy seeds from him especially if your place is far.

Currently he's having some damaged pepper seeds, when you order for pepper seeds he'll deliberately send the damaged seeds and when you complained, he will tell you to just nurse it and let's see if some will germinate, of which he knew it will never germinate. He will promise to send you a replacement if it doesn't germinate, then later turn around and accuse you of being the one who damage the seeds.

I stopped doing business especially online transactions with fellow Nigerians long time coz it always lead to regret but I just want to try this guy because of what he has been posting in this agric session.

Okoroemeka redeem your image. Either you send another good seed or return his money.

You are one of those I hope to do business with but this one is a red pointer. Be sincere in your business and earn people trust

How much did you buy the pepper seeds?

Xpol:
I'm bringing this here not because of the money I lost but I want to prevent more victims.

Okoroemeka is a disguised scammer. Don't buy seeds from him especially if your place is far.

Currently he's having some damaged pepper seeds, when you order for pepper seeds he'll deliberately send the damaged seeds and when you complained, he will tell you to just nurse it and let's see if some will germinate, of which he knew it will never germinate. He will promise to send you a replacement if it doesn't germinate, then later turn around and accuse you of being the one who damage the seeds.

I stopped doing business especially online transactions with fellow Nigerians long time coz it always lead to regret but I just want to try this guy because of what he has been posting in this agric session.

Xpol:
I'm bringing this here not because of the money I lost but I want to prevent more victims.

Okoroemeka is a disguised scammer. Don't buy seeds from him especially if your place is far.

Currently he's having some damaged pepper seeds, when you order for pepper seeds he'll deliberately send the damaged seeds and when you complained, he will tell you to just nurse it and let's see if some will germinate, of which he knew it will never germinate. He will promise to send you a replacement if it doesn't germinate, then later turn around and accuse you of being the one who damage the seeds.

I stopped doing business especially online transactions with fellow Nigerians long time coz it always lead to regret but I just want to try this guy because of what he has been posting in this agric session.

You sound like you are new to farming.......

I forgive u for not knowing the basics.........

What you passed through and are pointing fingers can happen to any one even when you buy imported packaged seeds

I once reiterated in a thread that personally , i dont farm for top yeild and i have my reasons , this is one of the glaring reasons

Many farmers on nairaland have similar experiences but swallow it and keep quiet but you see an opportunity to hit back and dent his reputation online hence the thread

Pls swallow and move on......................

Understand the basics of seeds and you will know Nigeria is not ready for agribusiness

betabread:
You sound like you are new to farming.......

I forgive u for not knowing the basics.........

What you passed through and are pointing fingers can happen to any one even when you buy imported packaged seeds

I once reiterated in a thread that personally , i dont farm for top yeild and i have my reasons , this is one of the glaring reasons

Many farmers on nairaland have similar experiences but swallow it and keep quiet but you see an opportunity to hit back and dent his reputation online hence the thread

Pls swallow and move on......................

Understand the basics of seeds and you will know Nigeria is not ready for agribusiness

I'm not new to farming,. I've bought seeds more time even imported ones that didn't germinate, every farmer knows that as part of the business but you see the seeds this guy sent to me is pure scam and nothing else.

All the seeds have cracked open. If it's in a sealed can I would have said he's not aware of it. It's in a transparent nylon and you can see the cracks even before opening it so he deliberately did that.

Let me tell you how it all started then you'll know he's a scam.

First he told me if I buy from him he would add extra 5g
Second he said the money I would pay would cover the logistics of delivering it to my driver.
After payment this guy started telling a different story that I should send money to the driver that's bringing it to my driver, I refused, and after some dragging he said he would pay.

When I received the seed, the 5g wasn't there, I asked him but he didn't even reply and I let go.

I complained that the seeds are not good, all have cracked he said I should nurse it and let's see if some will germinate.

First I gave it to a worker to nurse one seed tray(128) none germinated I told him, he said I should not use seed tray, I personally did some on a small raised bed, none germinated, he said I didn't Know how to nurse pepper, lol.

He later said he would send another 50g next week for replacement, I waited and the time passed.

Later he said before he would send it I should soak all the remaining seed, I did, all the seeds floated in water except few that can't even more than 50( I used a transparent container).

I sent him all the pics, non germinated. Suddenly he turned around and accused me of being the one that let insects ate the seeds.

I told him I've noticed him already that he's a scammer,that the money I paid wasn't even the issue. The section I wanted to plant pepper is about 3 acres and I planned to buy all from him.
This guy delayed my project for over a month with fake promises
He later said he would send 25g to me.no more trust so I don't want to have anything to do with him. I've already bought technisem. And Holland greentech seeds. Just want others to be very careful in dealing with him.

Xpol:
I'm not new to farming,. I've bought seeds more time even imported ones that didn't germinate, every farmer knows that as part of the business but you see the seeds this guy sent to me is pure scam and nothing else.

All the seeds have cracked open. If it's in a sealed can I would have said he's not aware of it. It's in a transparent nylon and you can see the cracks even before opening it so he deliberately did that.

Let me tell you how it all started then you'll know he's a scam.

First he told me if I buy from him he would add extra 5g
Second he said the money I would pay would cover the logistics of delivering it to my driver.
After payment this guy started telling a different story that I should send money to the driver that's bringing it to my driver, I refused, and after some dragging he said he would pay.

When I received the seed, the 5g wasn't there, I asked him but he didn't even reply and I let go.

I complained that the seeds are not good, all have cracked he said I should nurse it and let's see if some will germinate.

First I gave it to a worker to nurse one seed tray(128) none germinated I told him, he said I should not use seed tray, I personally did some on a small raised bed, none germinated, he said I didn't Know how to nurse pepper, lol.

He later said he would send another 50g next week for replacement, I waited and the time passed.

Later he said before he would send it I should soak all the remaining seed, I did, all the seeds floated in water except few that can't even more than 50( I used a transparent container).

I sent him all the pics, non germinated. Suddenly he turned around and accused me of being the one that let insects ate the seeds.

I told him I've noticed him already that he's a scammer,that the money I paid wasn't even the issue. The section I wanted to plant pepper is about 3 acres and I planned to buy all from him.
This guy delayed my project for over a month with fake promises
He later said he would send 25g to me.no more trust so I don't want to have anything to do with him. I've already bought technisem. And Holland greentech seeds. Just want others to be very careful in dealing with him.

Seeds are very delicate,There are so many things that might have happened in between that both of u are not aware of....... like I said swallow and move on, Dont bother trying to get back by tarnishing his image

If he is sincere, he will get a lot of this feed back and he will try to identify where the problem is coming from and fix.... A whole income stream is hanging on d line

Xpol:
I'm bringing this here not because of the money I lost but I want to prevent more victims.

Okoroemeka is a disguised scammer. Don't buy seeds from him especially if your place is far.

Currently he's having some damaged pepper seeds, when you order for pepper seeds he'll deliberately send the damaged seeds and when you complained, he will tell you to just nurse it and let's see if some will germinate, of which he knew it will never germinate. He will promise to send you a replacement if it doesn't germinate, then later turn around and accuse you of being the one who damage the seeds.

I stopped doing business especially online transactions with fellow Nigerians long time coz it always lead to regret but I just want to try this guy because of what he has been posting in this agric session.

we have heard from one side of the story,now let us hear my own side,this my fellow farmer based in Ghana and wants 50 grams of pepper seed so he contacted me but insisted he will not pay full amount that he will pay half and after receiving will pay remaining half,we delivered the goods and he paid the balance,he opened the sealed satchet and collect a Few seeds and tried and didn't properly reseal the packet or transfer into glass jar,so ants entered and ate the seeds,he later did another nursery and a few came up and he started complaining of no germination which we find unusual because we have delivered to more than 500 farmers this year alone both in Nigeria and beyond with no complains,so I gave our director the feedback that the customer is demanding replacement but they said the fault is from his side that they will only replace 25 grams or half that he will cater for the remaining half,I told the farmer involved and he started abusing me and calling me scammer,I told him that the company will send the waybill to him the next Friday,they sent the materials that day from aba to Lagos and paid the driver but this farmer refused to call the driver or send his people to collect it,the driver later called me that the office has washed their hands off the matter that the receiver is not picking their calls,after 4 days in Lagos I have to pay#3000 naira for waybill to another driver again to onitsha and then I collected it back,I informed the farmer that the driver is in Lagos and calling him to send somebody to collect it and he said he will forget it and buy seeds from technisem in ghana ,if you know that is your plan why putting us to great stress and expenses to send that package to Lagos?,next thing is for him to call me a scammer

betabread:
Seeds are very delicate,There are so many things that might have happened in between that both of u are not aware of....... like I said swallow and move on, Dont bother trying to get back by tarnishing his image

If he is sincere, he will get a lot of this feed back and he will try to identify where the problem is coming from and fix.... A whole income stream is hanging on d line

I showed him videos of the nursery we did for our farm from same batch with 90% germination,I even suggested to him if he can take seedlings free of charge and aviod the stress of nursery because we have a huge nursery at hand for our projec,but he declined,I wonder if it is technisem or east west seeds will anybody listen to him talkless of replacing half, immediately you open the packet the warranty is over,Ihe doesn't know that if pepper seeds are kept were air can enter those tiny ants will also enter,the company wants to know what went wrong that they even included 10 grams of the new yellow variety so he will also try but this farmer instead if seeking my help decided to call me a scammer,I didn't even know about this post but was informed on WhatsApp by a farmer that bought 200 grams from us in delta state last month,this post is reckless ,malicious and defaming,pls farmtech and co take down this thread

okoroemeka:
we have heard from one side of the story,now let us hear my own side,this my fellow farmer based in Ghana and wants 50 grams of pepper seed so he contacted me but insisted he will not full amount that he will pay half and after receiving will pay remaining half,we delivered the goods and he paid the balance,he opened the sealed satchet and collect a free seeds and tried and didn't properly reseal the packet or transfer into glass jar,so ants entered and ate the seeds,he later did another nursery and a few came up and started complaining which we find unusual because we have delivered to more than 500 farmers this year alone both in Nigeria and beyond with no complains,so I give our director the feedback that the customer is demanding replacement but they said the fault is from his side that they will only replace 25 grams or half that he will cater for the remaining half,I told the farmer involved and he started abusing me and calling me scammer,I told him that the company will send the waybill to him the next Friday,they sent the materials that day from aba to Lagos and paid the driver but this farmer refused to call the driver or send his people to collect it,the driver later called me that the office has washed their hands off the matter that the receiver is not picking their calls,after 4 days in Lagos I have to pay#3000 naira for waybill to another driver again to onitsha and then I collected it back,I informed the farmer that the driver is in Lagos and calling him to send somebody to collect it and he said he will forget it and buy seeds from technisem in ghana ,if you know that is your plan why putting us to great stress and expenses to send that package to Lagos?,next thing is for him to call me a scammer

Lol, you're just who you are. These cracked seeds you're saying ants ate it.Anyone who's a farmer will know you're lying by looking at the attached pictures. You intentionally sent damaged seeds, no genuine businessman will defend this seeds the way you did coz it's very clear the seeds cracked nothing like ants ate it. I know you intentionally scammed me bcoz it's a transparent container and you can't say you didn't know the condition of the seeds, that's why you're saying ants ate it. Are you seeing ants in the pictures? Or how did you come about your ants theory.

In your defense, you said few came up, like few of the seeds germinated, lol guy you no try at all. I nurse 50g seeds I told you I was only seeing 2 things but not sure yet if it's pepper and I later told you it's weeds, not pepper, I sent you all the pictures, now you're here saying few came up. Even before I opened the seeds I messaged you it's cracked seeds you sent to me but you said I should nurse it and let's see if some will germinate.

Screenshots

You said I insisted I wouldn't pay full amount before receiving the seeds, it's there in one of the screenshots where you said I should pay half and sent the balance after receiving it.

I can see you're twisting everything.

After sending the seeds, you didn't even wait till I received it, you started giving me pressure.

After I've seen the dishonesty in you and decided not to have anything to do with you again you're saying you sent 25g and I should contact a driver and pay another money again. You want me to waste another 25-30k again to receive another cracked seeds then you'll say I expose it to ants again?

I don't want you to continue this act here, I know you won't refund me neither will I waste more on any replacement from you, so keep your proceed.

betabread:
Seeds are very delicate,There are so many things that might have happened in between that both of u are not aware of....... like I said swallow and move on, Dont bother trying to get back by tarnishing his image

If he is sincere, he will get a lot of this feed back and he will try to identify where the problem is coming from and fix.... A whole income stream is hanging on d line

I was kinda shocked when I saw the mentioned name so much I quickly opened the thread to be sure it's not the person I thought it were.

See eh, shits do happen and it's easy to mistaken people due to certain challenges.

Me don do small biz with said okoroEmeka + from the way we discussed several times, You would know He's not even after your money to begin with + is passionate about what he does.

Also, the complainant, failed to inform us He bought the seeds a long time ago. He spoke like He discovered the bad seeds upOn arrival which is misleading to say the least.

bassdow:
I was kinda shocked when I saw the mentioned name so much I quickly opened the thread to be sure it's not the person I thought it were.

See eh, shits do happen and it's easy to mistaken people due to certain challenges.

Me don do small biz with said okoroEmeka + from the way we discussed several times, You would know He's not even after your money to begin with + is passionate about what he does.

Also, the complainant, failed to inform us He bought the seeds a long time ago. He spoke like He discovered the bad seeds upOn arrival which is misleading to say the least.

How is it a long time ago. If you read my post you'll understand better, I discovered it upon arrival and I complained to him but he said I should nurse it and let's see if some will germinate, since then he's been dragging it, telling me he would send replacement next week. After the next week he would tell me again to nurse another seeds and let's see if it'll germinate.

Suddenly this guy changed the whole thing and said the fault was from me that I let ants ate the seeds.

I even told him if he knew he wouldn't send the replacement he should let me know so that I can buy elsewhere.

Lol, some of you guys are deceived by how this guy talk as someone who's passionate, talking in a soft way "my brother is not that I'm scamming you oh"

I attached another screenshot when he said I should soak it in water, almost all the seeds floated even till the next day.

Xpol:
How is it a long time ago. If you read my post you'll understand better, I discovered it upon arrival and I complained to him but he said I should nurse it and let's see if some will germinate, since then he's been dragging it, telling me he would send replacement next week. After the next week he would tell me again to nurse another seeds and let's see if it'll germinate.

Suddenly this guy changed the whole thing and said the fault was from me that I let ants ate the seeds.

I even told him if he knew he wouldn't send the replacement he should let me know so that I can buy elsewhere.

Lol, some of you guys are deceived by how this guy talk as someone who's passionate, talking in a soft way "my brother is not that I'm scamming you oh"

I attached another screenshot when he said I should soak it in water, almost all the seeds floated even till the next day.

Wow
Means the way Una take word una sentences deceive me.
So those plenty seeds you said were eaten by ants, were discovered immediately upon arrival ?
Not after a while. That speaks volume. Well let's wait to listen to the other end

Xpol:
Lol, you're just who you are. These cracked seeds you're saying ants ate it.Anyone who's a farmer will know you're lying by looking at the attached pictures. You intentionally sent damaged seeds, no genuine businessman will defend this seeds the way you did coz it's very clear the seeds cracked nothing like ants ate it. I know you intentionally scammed me bcoz it's a transparent container and you can't say you didn't know the condition of the seeds, that's why you're saying ants ate it. Are you seeing ants in the pictures? Or how did you come about your ants theory.

In your defense, you said few came up, like few of the seeds germinated, lol guy you no try at all. I nurse 50g seeds I told you I was only seeing 2 things but not sure yet if it's pepper and I later told you it's weeds, not pepper, I sent you all the pictures, now you're here saying few came up. Even before I opened the seeds I messaged you it's cracked seeds you sent to me but you said I should nurse it and let's see if some will germinate.

if what you say is TRUE, then it's kinda obvious He didn't really intend to SCAM YOU, but to do away with a batch of product WHICH is about going to waste. Probably didn't envisage it would turn out so so so bad. @okoroemeka , over to you

okoroemeka:
I showed him videos of the nursery we did for our farm from same batch with 90% germination,I even suggested to him if he can take seedlings free of charge and aviod the stress of nursery because we have a huge nursery at hand for our projec,but he declined,I wonder if it is technisem or east west seeds will anybody listen to him talkless of replacing half, immediately you open the packet the warranty is over,Ihe doesn't know that if pepper seeds are kept were air can enter those tiny ants will also enter,the company wants to know what went wrong that they even included 10 grams of the new yellow variety so he will also try but this farmer instead if seeking my help decided to call me a scammer,I didn't even know about this post but was informed on WhatsApp by a farmer that bought 200 grams from us in delta state last month,this post is reckless ,malicious and defaming,pls farmtech and co take down this thread

@Xpol , is the above bolded true ?


@okoroemeka, OP (@Xpol) said the seeds came in transparent nylon BUT you seem to be saying otherWise. Whose should be believed.

I thinking making it clear if it came in transparent Nylon, or sealed (transparent) Nylon should be clarified first

bassdow:
@Xpol , is the above bolded true ?


@okoroemeka, OP (@Xpol) said the seeds came in transparent nylon BUT you seem to be saying otherWise. Whose should be believed.

I thinking making it clear if it came in transparent Nylon, or sealed (transparent) Nylon should be clarified first

All what this guy is saying is just pure lies to cover his deeds. If you notice I do send screenshots to back up what I say let him also do screenshots of backing up all those things he's saying then we know who is lying. Attached pics are the seed inside the transparent nylon pack, the label and the brown envelope he used to send it, when I received the seed I could clearly see that many of the seeds have cracked even without opening it, I complained to him, he said I shouldn't worry that I should nurse it and let's see if it would germinate.

okoroemeka:
I showed him videos of the nursery we did for our farm from same batch with 90% germination,I even suggested to him if he can take seedlings free of charge and aviod the stress of nursery because we have a huge nursery at hand for our projec,but he declined,I wonder if it is technisem or east west seeds will anybody listen to him talkless of replacing half, immediately you open the packet the warranty is over,Ihe doesn't know that if pepper seeds are kept were air can enter those tiny ants will also enter,the company wants to know what went wrong that they even included 10 grams of the new yellow variety so he will also try but this farmer instead if seeking my help decided to call me a scammer,I didn't even know about this post but was informed on WhatsApp by a farmer that bought 200 grams from us in delta state last month,this post is reckless ,malicious and defaming,pls farmtech and co take down this thread

You're Calling farmtech and co to take this thread down so that your deed can be covered? Can you pls show a screenshot of where you said I should take seedlings free of charge? I'm a retired police officer, so before coming online to expose you, I already have evidence to prove, the date I received the seeds,the date I complained to you the seeds already cracked and you said I should tried it and let's see the germination rate, are all in our WhatsApp conversations, I even sent you your balance before receiving the seeds bcoz I forgot my phone on the ground and my boys didn't know and they on the rain hose(for irrigation) then it got spoilt so for you not to be thinking I went offline bcoz of your balance.

I received the seed on the morning of October 30th, and I could see the cracks through the transparent pack, I kept it in the house and went to the city, there I got my phone fixed and messaged you if you've seen the balance I sent,I told you my phone spoiled that I just fixed it and I came back to the farm on November 6th, I didn't want to open the seeds at all I wasn't sure it would germinate so I decided to message you and you said I should nurse it and let's see the germination rate. I just tried about one seed tray(128 holes) after about 7 days I messaged you again that none germinated. I sent you the picture of the seeds to see how they have all cracked.you said ok you'll send the pictures to the company and they would replace the seeds for me.

You started using delay tactics,till it's over a month and you suddenly turned around and accused me of allowing the ants to eat the seeds. I would have forgotten everything and wouldn't even bother of bringing the issue here but bcoz you're proving to be a smart scammer.if you've even told me that you tried your best but the company refused to replace it I would just rest. I was even planning of sending you 270k for drip tape( that we earlier discussed )after we finished seed transactions(cos I was planning of buying up to 150g to complete the section I'm using for pepper. I thank God for exposing you earlier

In my view, this thread is so wrong in many different ways. If he did this to someone else, they would have corroborated your story. But no one has done so. He has always been upstanding when dealing with me. Calling him that name and then putting it online is a bit of a stretch.

You went straight to blasting him online without even asking for your money back or trying more conflict resolutions measures. Went straight for the jugular.

bassdow:
@Xpol , is the above bolded true ?


@okoroemeka, OP (@Xpol) said the seeds came in transparent nylon BUT you seem to be saying otherWise. Whose should be believed.

I thinking making it clear if it came in transparent Nylon, or sealed (transparent) Nylon should be clarified first

we have supplied hot peppers to more nairalanders I can even begin to count,they will confirm it come in a sealed thick nylon pack then sealed again in a second pack keeping it airtight with double seal,I see it is obvious that my dear farmer in Ghana is just out on a vengeful mlission to drag my name in the mud ,which to me is just childish pettiness.

swaggerific:
In my view, this thread is so wrong in many different ways. If he did this to someone else, they would have corroborated your story. But no one has done so. He has always been upstanding when dealing with me. Calling him that name and then putting it online is a bit of a stretch.

You went straight to blasting him online without even asking for your money back or trying more conflict resolutions measures. Went straight for the jugular.

How did you come to this conclusion " you went straight to blasting him online without even asking for your money back or trying more conflict resolutions measures"
Was that what he told you or you just imagined it?

I believe you read all what I posted.
How do you expect someone claiming I let ants ate the seeds offer to refund my money. An issue he's been stretching for over a month.

Those lies he's putting out here to defend himself,why can't you tell him to send screenshots to back it up since all our conversations are on WhatsApp.

Xpol:
How did you come to this conclusion " you went straight to blasting him online without even asking for your money back or trying more conflict resolutions measures"
Was that what he told you or you just imagined it?

I believe you read all what I posted.
How do you expect someone claiming I let ants ate the seeds offer to refund my money. An issue he's been stretching for over a month.

Those lies he's putting out here to defend himself,why can't you tell him to send screenshots to back it up since all our conversations are on WhatsApp.

I never spoke to him about this post and he probably has absolutely no idea that I am making this comment. He didn't tell me to write anything at all. Well I could be wrong but it seems to me like you could have easily found another solution if none of the other solutions you guys talked about worked. There is always a solution to a problem. War or public slander can be used as a threat...to get what you want. You can still resolve it now and just delete the thread.

This is my last comment on this sha. My view is that this thread should absolutely be removed. ASAP

okoroemeka:
we have supplied hot peppers to more nairalanders I can even begin to count,they will confirm it come in a sealed thick nylon pack then sealed again in a second pack keeping it airtight with double seal,I see it is obvious that my dear farmer in Ghana is just out on a vengeful mlission to drag my name in the mud ,which to me is just childish pettiness.

No one is on a vengeful mission to drag your name in the mud, if you had a name you really cherish, why did you sold a spoiled seeds to me and refused to take responsibility.

Ok answer these questions publicly here and let's forget about it, I've already counted my lost.
1: Did we agree on you sending me 50g of the red variety+5g of the yellow variety for 35k? If yes why did you send only 50g and why did you ignored me when I asked for the remaining 5g?
2: Did I messaged you before opening the seed, that it's not good and you said I should nurse it and let's see the germination rate?
3:when I opened the seeds, did I send you the pictures and after seeing the cracks you promised to send replacement next week?

Answer these questions truthfully, then case closed.

swaggerific:
I never spoke to him about this post and he probably has absolutely no idea that I am making this comment. He didn't tell me to write anything at all. Well I could be wrong but it seems to me like you could have easily found another solution if none of the other solutions you guys talked about worked. There is always a solution to a problem. War or public slander can be used as a threat...to get what you want. You can still resolve it now and just delete the thread.

This is my last comment on this sha. My view is that this thread should absolutely be removed. ASAP

Your opinion is that the thread should be absolutely removed? Ok apart from the fact that you're defending him, did you notice any lie in what I've posted so far? Or can you say any good reason why the thread should be removed? Have you been cheated or scammed before? If yes, how did you feel after it? I just wanted to tell people what he did to me and I've done that, even if the thread is removed it doesn't affect me in anyway.

I don't defend or cover crime. I've done my own part.

I have carefully read from the both parties. I am not here to cast any aspersions but to share some experiences that might benefit all and sundry.

This type of issue is not uncommon in the seed biz arena. I have been there before... I can relate with both sides

1. Many yrs ago, there was a particular batch of Avenir F1 pepper seed in the circulation that refused to germinate. That year most pepper farmers counted their losses. Imagine big seed firm like technisem!
2. Few years ago I think Mr emmaachille decided to clear his shelves of some left over seeds like carrots, onions, cucumber etc, I put in and got some. Unfortunately most of the seed did not germinate. I concluded the seeds are probably stale and he is not aware that that they will not germinate. Considering the fact he has done businesses that run into millions of naira on this forum, I know he is too big to scam me and others who got the seeds at just shikini change. Till today, I never even mention it to him.
3. I bought some heirloom pepper seeds like two different varieties from my regular supplier in Feb. I nursed out of it for my clients same month and both varieties did germinate excellently well. Two months later after I supplied my clients with the seedlings, it was time to nurse the ones I will plant for myself, only one out of the two varieties germinated, still same stock o, just 2 months interval...I tried diff methods, na lie e no gree.
4. I supplied a woman in Uyo like 2 or 3kg( I can't remember exactly like over 4 yrs now) of my okra seed. I was shocked when she called me few days later that all the seed did not germinate. This is strange! I quickly took few seed from the batch to experiment, lo and behold...she was right! I quickly apologized and packaged another batch and sent to her all bills on me. I even thanked her for not coming online to give me a bad name.
5. An intending buyer called for okra seed in 2nd quarter of the year. He said he will be planting by Dec/Jan dry season. Considering the lesson I leant from point 4 above, I told him... Dec is still far, don't buy from this batch, it's germination rate may diminish by then, wait and watch out for current/new batch by then.

I believe both parties involved can infer one or two things from the experiences I shared above.
Oga Okoroemeka pls try to reach a compromise with your client. I know you are far bigger than the cost price of the seed involved, in this biz, sometimes we deliberately part with some resources...it's part of the risk in the biz. Oga xpol, it's obvious you are still angry, pls after the compromise, do something about the thread. Shalom.

Boss @Okoroemeka, I have nothing but respect for you in this Agric space. I would urge that you look into the issue of the collection, preservation and packaging of your seeds.

I do not know the OP and have never communicated with him. However I also had issues with the pepper seeds I got from you earlier this year.

I bought red and yellow scorpion; Nsukka pepper. The pack of Nsukka (a small quantity in a different type of pack) opened and spilled before it got to me. I informed you about this.

The red and yellow scorpion seeds developed fungal attack (like in OP's picture) the yellow a few days after I bought them and the other about two weeks later, while still unopened and kept where I keep other seeds. My seeds from other companies including the okro I got from you are still ok as I write. This fungal issue caused me to plant all the red and yellow scorpion immediately and all at once unplanned as I noticed the issue. I had planned to do it in batches because of my limited space and also at the end of the year/early next year. However I had to rush to sow the seeds in June as I feared they would spoil further and no longer germinate by December.

I soaked for about two days with fungicides and had very good germination rate. I never mentioned this to you but I should have and am sorry to be bringing it out here like this now.

The third issue I have is that the fruits that came (from red and yellow scorpion) are a
wide assortment of pepper varieties: the red and yellow scorpion, and then small amounts of up to 3 or 4 other different varieties. I was suprised at this but went back to read your threads and discovered that you developed the yellow scorpion and probably the red scorpion varieties yourself. So I excused this.

Furthermore they are packed in another institutions packaging which I don't think is right.

The above are my experiences with my purchase from Okoroemeka.

Mrdellychy:
I have carefully read from the both parties. I am not here to cast any aspersions but to share some experiences that might benefit all and sundry.

This type of issue is not uncommon in the seed biz arena. I have been there before... I can relate with both sides

1. Many yrs ago, there was a particular batch of Avenir F1 pepper seed in the circulation that refused to germinate. That year most pepper farmers counted their losses. Imagine big seed firm like technisem!
2. Few years ago I think Mr emmaachille decided to clear his shelves of some left over seeds like carrots, onions, cucumber etc, I put in and got some. Unfortunately most of the seed did not germinate. I concluded the seeds are probably stale and he is not aware that that they will not germinate. Considering the fact he has done businesses that run into millions of naira on this forum, I know he is too big to scam me and others who got the seeds at just shikini change. Till today, I never even mention it to him.
3. I bought some heirloom pepper seeds like two different varieties from my regular supplier in Feb. I nursed out of it for my clients same month and both varieties did germinate excellently well. Two months later after I supplied my clients with the seedlings, it was time to nurse the ones I will plant for myself, only one out of the two varieties germinated, still same stock o, just 2 months interval...I tried diff methods, na lie e no gree.
4. I supplied a woman in Uyo like 2 or 3kg( I can't remember exactly like over 4 yrs now) of my okra seed. I was shocked when she called me few days later that all the seed did not germinate. This is strange! I quickly took few seed from the batch to experiment, lo and behold...she was right! I quickly apologized and packaged another batch and sent to her all bills on me. I even thanked her for not coming online to give me a bad name.
5. An intending buyer called for okra seed in 2nd quarter of the year. He said he will be planting by Dec/Jan dry season. Considering the lesson I leant from point 4 above, I told him... Dec is still far, don't buy from this batch, it's germination rate may diminish by then, wait and watch out for current/new batch by then.

I believe both parties involved can infer one or two things from the experiences I shared above.
Oga Okoroemeka pls try to reach a compromise with your client. I know you are far bigger than the cost price of the seed involved, in this biz, sometimes we deliberately part with some resources...it's part of the risk in the biz. Oga xpol, it's obvious you are still angry, pls after the compromise, do something about the thread. Shalom.

What you did in your number 4 is what is expected from a good businessman/or woman. Having a good customer relation saves one from many problems from the customers. Sometimes you may not even refund or replace but the customer will understand and be satisfied.
If these seeds were in good shape but didn't germinate I wouldn't have been much concerned but they've all cracked and I called his attention to it even before opening it. ". I will send you a replacement next week, I will send you a replacement next week" he was just using delay tactics and at the end he turned around and accused me of being the one that spoiled the seeds. Even after bringing the issue here, he was still lying that he even offered to send me seedlings free of charge from the abundance they were having but I refused. I even told him that if he knew he wouldn't replace the seeds he should let me know so that I could buy elsewhere coz I wanted to transplant by December but he assured me he would send it, after delaying me for over a month he turned around to accuse me that I allowed ants to eat the seeds.

Xpol:
No one is on a vengeful mission to drag your name in the mud, if you had a name you really cherish, why did you sold a spoiled seeds to me and refused to take responsibility.

Ok answer these questions publicly here and let's forget about it, I've already counted my lost.
1: Did we agree on you sending me 50g of the red variety+5g of the yellow variety for 35k? If yes why did you send only 50g and why did you ignored me when I asked for the remaining 5g?
2: Did I messaged you before opening the seed, that it's not good and you said I should nurse it and let's see the germination rate?
3:when I opened the seeds, did I send you the pictures and after seeing the cracks you promised to send replacement next week?

Answer these questions truthfully, then case closed.

what you paid for is the 50 grams and I promised to include 5 grams of the yellow variety as bonus for you which was not yet ready by then,this back and forth accusations and counter accusation is not to my liking,but the simple fact is that we tried and sent at least half pack plus 10 grams of the yellow to Lagos for you to pick,am I trying to scam you to try and replace at least some part,which you totally ignored all our efforts but to come online to call me a scammer,I am not the director but just a sales rep with limited decision making about some issues,the driver from Lagos has returned the waybill to me and is in my possession,what I will do for my dear fellow farmer is that after the Xmas rush we will add another 25 grams to the 35 grams and resend it to him in the spirit of the new yeear on one condition that he will open another thread on the progress of the crops from nursery to fruiting let us see and prove beyond any reasonable doubt what the scorpion variety can perform and restore much needed trust,,but it is sad to see that this fracas reminds us about the shakesparian tragedy of the merchant of Venice and the pound of flesh

Kehfie:
Boss @Okoroemeka, I have nothing but respect for you in this Agric space. I would urge that you look into the issue of the collection, preservation and packaging of your seeds.

I do not know the OP and have never communicated with him. However I also had issues with the pepper seeds I got from you earlier this year.

I bought red and yellow scorpion; Nsukka pepper. The pack of Nsukka (a small quantity in a different type of pack) opened and spilled before it got to me. I informed you about this.

The red and yellow scorpion seeds developed fungal attack (like in OP's picture) the yellow a few days after I bought them and the other about two weeks later, while still unopened and kept where I keep other seeds. My seeds from other companies including the okro I got from you are still ok as I write. This fungal issue caused me to plant all the red and yellow scorpion immediately and all at once unplanned as I noticed the issue. I had planned to do it in batches because of my limited space and also at the end of the year/early next year. However I had to rush to sow the seeds in June as I feared they would spoil further and no longer germinate by December.

I soaked for about two days with fungicides and had very good germination rate. I never mentioned this to you but I should have and am sorry to be bringing it out here like this now.

The third issue I have is that the fruits that came (from red and yellow scorpion) are a
wide assortment of pepper varieties: the red and yellow scorpion, and then small amounts of up to 3 or 4 other different varieties. I was suprised at this but went back to read your threads and discovered that you developed the yellow scorpion and probably the red scorpion varieties yourself. So I excused this.

Furthermore they are packed in another institutions packaging which I don't think is right.

The above are my experiences with my purchase from Okoroemeka.

pls we like and cherish feednacks from farmers,we will appreciate if you will send more information about those crops if possible,to help us identify what went wrong , support and consult services is our major concern

After all read here, I propose that @Okoroemeka refund that guy 50% make both parties accept loss and settle amicably make dem close down this thread.
What do you think?

@Okoroemeka, please stop selling seeds as it will ruin your reputation and stain your white agbada.
I have read all your pepper and garden egg writeups from Genesis to Revelation and you sef times without number have talked abt difficulties in seed preservation, grading and final germination on both local, EU/USA and the Cameroon variety.

@Xpol
Truth be told, pepper seed germination dey like 1xbet.
I am a pepper and ginger farmer too so I know what I am talking about.
One time we bought 2 cans of 50 g Avenir F1 Technisem original from the company with expiry date 2 years+, 1 can sprout more than 85%, the other can no reach even 10%.
We followed all the best practices, there were no ants, no reptiles, nothing but the 2nd can germination was very very disappointing.
We no go Technisem make dem refund us, we cut our losses and moved on.
So if you can accept my proposal that @Okoroemeka refunds you 50% of what you spent and let's move on like gentlemen and you delete this thread.
What say you?


@Okoroemeka, Pls stop selling seeds as some will come back to bite you in the ass.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions and 99 good plus 1 bad is equal to 100 bad.
Sell only seedlings or sign an agreement with any seed buyer that he will pay your money 100% before shipping and you will not be responsible if it germinates or not to avoid stories that touch the heart like this one.

okoroemeka:
we have supplied hot peppers to more nairalanders I can even begin to count,they will confirm it come in a sealed thick nylon pack then sealed again in a second pack keeping it airtight with double seal,I see it is obvious that my dear farmer in Ghana is just out on a vengeful mlission to drag my name in the mud ,which to me is just childish pettiness.

You are wrong sir. Accept that something went wrong somewhere, resolve it and move on.

IamAsiri:
You are wrong sir. Accept that something went wrong somewhere, resolve it and move on.

I have done pepper nursery of 200 grams of avenir pepper at veggie city,ayalaso, Abeokuta and not even one single one came up,did we go to technisem and tell them they are wrong that something went wrong somewhere ,#220k just went like that

I have already proposed to resend another replacement after the Xmas and new year rush to complete it 50 grams ,I think that is fair enough and should be the end of the matter