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budaatum:
As in, if your boys were raped and abused by any religion, I would attack those who abuse them instead of joining you in cutting off their abusing diqs and kicking their asses straight to hell?

Would I also be attacking those who expose the abuse of my own children instead and then make excuses for the criminals too, or is it your opinion that I don't care about your own children's welfare as much as I do care about my own children's because I am a stupid idiot like you are?

All the references of you defending rapists and groomers are on Nairaland. My opinion has nothing to do with it.

budaatum:
It frustrates me that many don't see this, but Christ always reminds me to forgive everyone for they know not what they do.

I can't forgive the resident stupid idiot though, for he definitely does know the evil he does, and that is just not forgivable despite the fact my not forgiving him makes it certain that I will indeed burn in the hottest part of hell.

Trust me bemeruca, when I am burning in hell, my only delight and joy is you will be feeling the hell fire more than I would because of your surprise at ending up in hell right there with me, because there is absolutely no way any god would let your evil lying stupid ignorant idiot sort in its peaceful beautiful heaven so you can catch your useless trolling cruise and dabaru the entire heaven as you dabaru here.

Say all you want, I am still gonna call out your degenerate tendencies so defend and support rapists and groomers.

bemeruca:
Say all you want, I am still gonna call out your degenerate tendencies so defend and support rapists and groomers.

You know you’re being facetious. It’s like someone reading this comment I made

The gravity of what Matt Gaetz did is not as dire as someone who kidnapped an unwilling child and forced them into sexual acts they didn’t want. It might not even be illegal depending on location.

and claiming I support rapists. Knowing very well what’s being said is way different than the meaning you chose to get from it. That intentional misinterpretation is why it’s so difficult to have a conversation

Oh well.

cococandy:
You know you’re being facetious. It’s like someone reading this comment I made and claiming I support rapists. Knowing very well what’s being said is way different than the meaning you chose to get from it. That intentional misinterpretation is why it’s so difficult to have a conversation

Oh well.

I'm not supporting Gaetz at all. The FBI didn't charge him especially in DC which voted Kamala 93% and had a 100% conviction rate of J6 protesters.
She was 17, Greenberg the tax collector had issued her an ID card for which he was jailed Greenberg, a sleazebag was a friend to the hard partying rich kid Gaetz. Someone who spends $90,000 on 2 years on women is definitely not poor . Whose dad was being asked to cough up $25 million to free an American hostage in Iran by the FBI in exchange for Gaetz clemency.
Her and her a complices had registered on a site that matches sugar daddies to sugar babies.

Why didn't FBI charge him in the notorious DC democrat den?

https://thefederalist.com/2024/11/17/house-probe-into-matt-gaetz-relies-on-witnesses-doj-found-lacked-credibility/

If you ever heard of onlyfans.com She is actively there today .
Having graduated from seeking.com
The report was prepared by a house Committee sympathetic to Kevin McCarthy who Gaetz ousted from No 3 position in US hierarchy. He had just appointed two members .
As much as Gaetz did some immoral stuff the committee concentrated on hanging him dry without exposing the whole story. The media is of course happy to tar and feather him.
If someone has an ID and is a member of an online sugar daddy seeking site , does that fall under statutory rape?

Restaurant closed for offering a 3 hour ladies night promotion where drinks are discounted. Lima Restaurant in California c losed after spending thousands settling a gender discrimination lawsuit.

https://publiclawlibrary.org/community-farewell-concords-beloved-lima-restaurant-closes-after-costly-discrimination-lawsuit-over-ladies-night-promotion/

...eatery in violation of California’s civil rights act, which prohibits gender-based pricing promotions. Lima’s experience is not isolated; such lawsuits have been increasingly frequent

Ambulance chasing lawyers.
Speaking like a man. A restaurant full of ladies attracts hordes of men ,the bigger spenders.
Stoopid law.

bemeruca:
Say all you want, I am still gonna call out your degenerate tendencies so defend and support rapists and groomers.

Of course you are going to keep lying to yourself that one supports rapists and groomers raping and grooming our children. No less is expected from the stupid ignorant idiot that you are.

Basilico, please educate your children for us so they can resist rapists and groomers, and be your comfort in your old age, and not be like the stupid idiot please. Merry Christmas, and thank you very much in advance.

cococandy:
I am willing to suss out the answer and can’t deduce its simply as a result of gray areas.
This is why I didn’t want to use specific cases as examples because each case is going to have what makes it different or more heinous than the other, thereby murky up the conversation as a whole. The gravity of what Matt did is not as dire as someone who kidnapped an unwilling child and forced them into sexual acts they didn’t want. It might not even be illegal depending on location.

Those gray areas help people who are for him to use age-of-consent being different in different states or the willingness of the child to make him not such a bad person. But the crux of the issue is, why are they not outrightly disgusted by him instead of finding ways to tell us it wasn’t that bad. Like we know there are levels to it. But why is a technicality the hill they were willing to die on to side with that kind of a morally questionable man?

I said it once. I'll repeat it.
If there was credible evidence that Gaetz did actually commit statutory rape, he'll fade in obscurity.

The threshold for the outright, knee-jerk, totally-natural revulsion to sexual relations with minors is the preponderance of evidence.
The evidence here is murky.
If it wasn't, Gaetz will be looking at significant time in jail and an offender listing.

This is not a "he said, she said" sexual misconduct.
The bar to file a statutory rape charge is low.
Heck, it is against federal law to attempt to coerce a minor to engage in sexual acts through the telephone or internet.
Sexual contact is not necessary to nail a perp. A text message will do.

Unless you can somehow state with a straight face that Garland saw a slam-dunk opportunity to get Gaetz into an orange jumpsuit and let him go out of the kindness of his heart, I cannot for the life of me understand why you want conservatives to condemn him for apparently committing a very serious criminal offense when he wasn't even indicted by the most motivated crack team of FBI investigators in the last century.

This is not true pls. Let’s not conflate someone being canceled online with the actual justice system. There’s always an investigation and of course consequences based on said investigation. The thing you call “asking questions” is exactly what the justice system does when it’s doing the investigation. (We can talk about certain evils of the justice system at a different time)

But your side calls the investigations witch-hunts. And that’s where the divide comes. The questions y’all often ask is not because you want to get to the truth. It’s usually victim blaming in nature. Almost like they want to prove at all costs that the accuser is lying. Which in itself is part of the problem. Because it creates an atmosphere where victims can’t come forward.

Nice try.

Attempting to gaslight me about the #MeToo era. 🙂

"Believe all women" must have been a figment of the imagination.

Maybe in the past I’d believe this. Not in today’s climate though. Anything goes in the MAGA world it seems. And that’s why people of those proclivities tend to join your camps. Something tells them they’ll get away with it over there.

I'll readily admit MAGA has its fair share of "colorful" characters.
But there's a very visible line.
Statutory rape crosses that line with more than enough room to spare.

-Lord

LordAdam16:
I cannot for the life of me understand why you want conservatives to condemn him...

Thankfully, some conservatives did not wait for what anyone else wanted and condemned Gaetz already.

“I don’t think it’s a serious nomination for the attorney general,” Republican senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, told NBC News. “We need to have a serious attorney general. And I’m looking forward to the opportunity to consider somebody that is serious. This one was not on my bingo card.”

Republican congressman Max Miller of Ohio told Axios that “Gaetz has a better shot at having dinner with Queen Elizabeth II than being confirmed by the Senate”.

John Bolton, a former national security adviser, said Gaetz “must be the worst nomination for a cabinet position in American history”. “Gaetz is not only totally incompetent for this job, he doesn’t have the character. He is a person of moral turpitude,” Bolton said in an interview with NBC News NOW.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/13/republicans-matt-gaetz-trump-attorney-general

But I'm very certain they must only have condemned Gaetz because Biden paid them with Obama's money, so perhaps we better not count or notice them.

budaatum:
Thankfully, some conservatives did not wait for what anyone else wanted and condemned Gaetz already.



But I'm very certain they must only have condemned Gaetz because Biden paid them with Obama's money, so perhaps we better not count or notice them.

Congratulations.
You have your token Conservative condemnation.

Why is that not enough for you?

One minute, conservatives excuse statutory rape.
Next minute, conservatives condemn statutory rape.

Pick a lane. Or argue with yourself. IDGAF.
But keep my username out of your posts.

-Lord

LordAdam16:
Congratulations.
You have your token Conservative condemnation.

Why is that not enough for you?

One minute, conservatives excuse statutory rape.
Next minute, conservatives condemn statutory rape.

Pick a lane. Or argue with yourself. IDGAF.
But keep my username out of your posts.

If you want your posts kept out of, post in your private forum where only you read it.

You can not create imaginary lanes to put people into and then ask that your username be kept out of your posts. Or rather, you can ask, but as you can see, request denied.

bemeruca:
Say all you want, I am still gonna call out your degenerate tendencies so defend and support rapists and groomers.

This is so you see what others see while you sit in your bubble of ignorance.

https://www.nairaland.com/8295255/pastors-wife-teaches-women-how/2#133431279

cococandy:
You know you’re being facetious. It’s like someone reading this comment I made and claiming I support rapists. Knowing very well what’s being said is way different than the meaning you chose to get from it. That intentional misinterpretation is why it’s so difficult to have a conversation

Oh well.

As you might have noticed, I don't bother much with the stupid idiot. Unlike some, he doesn't need to ask me to keep out of his posts because his posts are usually not worth getting into except to occasionally remind him what one thinks of him.

budaatum:
If you want your posts kept out of, post in your private forum where only you read it.

You can not create imaginary lanes to put people into and then ask that your username be kept out of your posts. Or rather, you can ask, but as you can see, request denied.

I am under no legal obligation to entertain your innate incoherency.

It is a polite request.
Get your sh*t together before quoting me.
You can always continue your incoherent rambling as you've done before yesterday as you'll do after today.
Just keep me out of it.

Is that too much to ask, your highness?! /s

-Lord

budaatum:
As you might have noticed, I don't bother much with the stupid idiot. Unlike some, he doesn't need to ask me to keep out of his posts because his posts are usually not worth getting into except to occasionally remind him what one thinks of him.

You defend rapists and groomers. You are known for that. I don't expect cococandy to take a neutral stand on this. She is going to take your side. What you posted is there for all to see. On many occasions, you have supported groomers, attack the messengers or make excuses for groomers or rapists. And this extends to other threads.

Budaatum.
How did this pass me? The Rwandese teenager who stabbed little children and sparked anti immigrant riots across UK.
Turned out that he had ricin poison and an Al Qaeda manual.
Your govt The British govt went to great lengths to lie to the public that it wasn't a terror atrack inspired by jihadists.The media memory holed it too.
Did you defend him too? The search function here is unreliable.

Trump intervention stops Biden regime auction of border wall materials.
Biden is burning everything down before he leaves office.
He pardoned his son from 2014. The laptop from hell has incriminating evidence if several crimes before that date
Interesting if he can be charged.

Biden and Kamala regime lied about the number of new jobs created.

Another half-million jobs under Biden turned out to be as real as his approval ratings! The Philly Fed's findings are like a bad magic trick - the jobs you thought were there, poof, gone! And with an 800,000 job downward revision from last year, it seems like the only thing growing is the number of revisions. Stay tuned for January's numbers; maybe we'll find out Santa isn't real either!

Commiefornia has 3.8 million illegally registered voters Did they vote?

...these registrations came from the online registration system, while many of the remainder came through the motor vehicle licensing system (DMV). Both of these are supposed to check citizenship and reject non-citizen applications. In both, however, the applicant has to check a box indicating they are non-citizens. If they don’t check the box, it is assumed they are citizens.

The FBI obviously has this data and they would easily know how many voted. They won't investigate because it helps democrats.

https://nationalfile.com/report-foreign-voters-ballots-cost-republicans-three-u-s-house-seats-in-california/

The left ruins everything it touches.

bemeruca:
You defend rapists and groomers. You are known for that. I don't expect cococandy to take a neutral stand on this. She is going to take your side. What you posted is there for all to see. On many occasions, you have supported groomers, attack the messengers or make excuses for groomers or rapists. And this extends to other threads.

I am willing to retract my statement and apologize if you show me the post that buda supported rapists. This is a huge deal breaker for me. It doesn’t matter who it is. I will disown family members over such behavior. So don’t think I’ll be biased because we’ve agreed on different topics in the past.

The post I saw where you said buda supported child molester was something similar to the post I made above where I said there’s a difference between aggravated sexual assault and what Matt Gaetz did. I’m obviously disgusted by both but I’m remaining objective enough to say that it’s not the same. At least for the purpose of definition and application of the law, we need to be clear about that. Doesn’t mean I’ll ever tolerate or excuse such behavior. If someone were looking to have a gotcha moment at me, they could easily misinterpret that part of my post and start saying all over the forum that I support child abusers.
That’s what I saw you doing and that’s why said you were being mischievous.

Now if there’s a post where buda frankly or candidly supported child abusers, show it to me and I’ll retract my statement and apologize.

basilico:
Budaatum.
How did this pass me? The Rwandese teenager who stabbed little children and sparked anti immigrant riots across UK.
Turned out that he had ricin poison and an Al Qaeda manual.
Your govt The British govt went to great lengths to lie to the public that it wasn't a terror atrack inspired by jihadists.The media memory holed it too.
Did you defend him too? The search function here is unreliable.

Budaatum will only critique or voice his concern if it was a Christian.

cococandy:
I am willing to retract my statement and apologize if you show me the post that buda supported rapists. This is a huge deal breaker for me. It doesn’t matter who it is. I will disown family members over such behavior. So don’t think I’ll be biased because we’ve agreed on different topics in the past.

The post I saw where you said buda supported child molester was something similar to the post I made above where I said there’s a difference between aggravated sexual assault and what Matt Gaetz did. I’m obviously disgusted by both but I’m remaining objective enough to say that it’s not the same. At least for the purpose of definition and application of the law, we need to be clear about that. Doesn’t mean I’ll ever tolerate or excuse such behavior. If someone were looking to have a gotcha moment at me, they could easily misinterpret that part of my post and start saying all over the forum that I support child abusers.
That’s what I saw you doing and that’s why said you were being mischievous.

Now if there’s a post where buda frankly or candidly supported child abusers, show it to me and I’ll retract my statement and apologize.

What the guy did was statutory rape, budaatum downplayed it. I called it rape, he said it is not rape.

It is not new, he has a track record of supporting groomers. Kids that are groomed end up having sex with adults.

I don't have time to dig up the past but if you can do your research you will find posts where he is supporting groomers.

Another thing, budaatum is like a snake, he flip-flops all the time.
Recently you would think he does not hold a stance of supporting the castration of minors, the wind has blow the other way so he is sounding like he is against it.

But see this post below
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-president-elect/3730#122174515

basilico:
Budaatum.
How did this pass me? The Rwandese teenager who stabbed little children and sparked anti immigrant riots across UK.
Turned out that he had ricin poison and an Al Qaeda manual.
Your govt The British govt went to great lengths to lie to the public that it wasn't a terror atrack inspired by jihadists.The media memory holed it too.
Did you defend him too? The search function here is unreliable.

There was nothing to defend. Even if it wasn't jihad, it still was very bad.

The British Government can not hide the truth in court, but I can see why they'd not divulge information to those who'd want to do jungle justice on the streets.

Here like in the USA, every one is innocent until their day in court if and when they are found guilty.

bemeruca:
What the guy did was statutory rape, budaatum downplayed it. I called it rape, he said it is not rape.

Yes that’s the one I’m talking about. downplayed in the same way I said statutory rape is not the same as aggravated sexual assault. Both of which are bad, illegal and will land the perp on the list. However one might get the perp a longer jail sentence because of the violent nature. I feel you purposely misconstrued that. I still stand to be corrected. As you’ve sent me to do my own digging. Okay.

It is not new, he has a track record of supporting groomers. Kids that are groomed end up having sex with adults.

I don't have time to dig up the past but if you can do your research you will find posts where he is supporting groomers.

I’ll let you know when I find out because as of now I saw nothing except that post I was referring to earlier.

Another thing, budaatum is like a snake, he flip-flops all the time.
Recently you would think he does not hold a stance of supporting the castration of minors, the wind has blow the other way so he is sounding like he is against it.

But see this post below
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-president-elect/3730#122174515

Okay but Let’s not digress pls. As far I know republicans want parents to make the final decision on that issue. And buda has said they’re personally not for it but will let the parents in the situation make the call. Am I reading this wrong? Where’s the support you speak of? It’s clear as day.

cococandy:
Yes that’s the one I’m talking about. downplayed in the same way I said statutory rape is not the same as aggravated sexual assault. Both of which are bad, illegal and will land the perp on the list. However one might get the perp a longer jail sentence because of the violent nature. I feel you purposely misconstrued that. I still stand to be corrected. As you’ve sent me to do my own digging. Okay.

I’ll let you know when I find out because as of now I saw nothing except that post I was referring to earlier.


Okay but Let’s not digress pls. As far I know republicans want parents to make the final decision on that issue. And buda has said they’re personally not for it but will let the parents in the situation make the call. Am I reading this wrong? Where’s the support you speak of? It’s clear as day.

There is no point in downplaying it. No one was arguing otherwise.

cococandy:
Yes that’s the one I’m talking about. downplayed in the same way I said statutory rape is not the same as aggravated sexual assault. Both of which are bad, illegal and will land the perp on the list. However one might get the perp a longer jail sentence because of the violent nature. I feel you purposely misconstrued that. I still stand to be corrected. As you’ve sent me to do my own digging. Okay.

I’ll let you know when I find out because as of now I saw nothing except that post I was referring to earlier.


Okay but Let’s not digress pls. As far I know republicans want parents to make the final decision on that issue. And buda has said they’re personally not for it but will let the parents in the situation make the call. Am I reading this wrong? Where’s the support you speak of? It’s clear as day.

A child who needs an ID to buy a beer is mature enough to undergo surgical mutilation, block puberty onset and change gender?
If one can change his gender then they can also change their age . An adult can claim to be a child and sleep with children.
My opinion, many of those who insist on gender changes are perverts and latent paedophiles . They are sexualizing kids before their formative stage in life. A kid should grow up normally without undue influences and free from perverted influencers. A boy who transitions to a girl will obviously be extremely pleased attracting the attention of males , will be proud to revel in their personal changes .Meaning his chances of engaging in sexual activity are much higher than the kids going through normal growth phases.
I liken transitioners to body builders ,there is nothing more pleasing to them than praising their biceps, puffed out chests and their abs.
There are societies that circumcise boys at very early ages , some on the eighth day for religious reasons. I have never heard anyone complain of being circumcised, it does no harm in life.
When it comes to trans , many are just faking it, want to go to women jails ,participate in their sports and use female restrooms.
A gay man who is the "she he" or rather the recipient obviously wants to look sexy and has no qualms taking hormones to acquire the feminine looks and body features.

I've got a close friend who says she was born that way , she lives a miserable life of heartbreaks and searching for like minded girls at every opportunity anywhere. She's just a confused late twenties girl,says she has never slept with a man, ironically has an impressive toys collection. She uses that collection to entice girls. To me it's ensnaring.
Budaatum flows with the flow. Takes liberal positions all the time, but will change stance when it's convenient.

“This week was harrowing for me. This Saturday I went on Fox and Friends and said that Democrats have a 'stench of loser' hanging over them. As soon as I said that there were boycott campaigns against me… I lost 40,000 followers in four days. People have ... called me a wh*re, they called me the ‘C’ word, they called for me to be deported,” she added.

You can search my name and those terms on X and you can see a bunch of them. All these so-called Democrats, the party of inclusion and diversity, masks off. It’s even worse because they pretend to occupy the moral high ground. At least with Republicans, they are who they are, but Democrats pretend to be so loving and caring and embracing of diversity.”

“But all of a sudden when I dare to utter any criticisms of the goddess Kamala Harris, I get ostracized… Me, after having raised tens of millions of dollars for the party, and I’m being called a grifter?” Li added.

Li described herself as a “conservative Democrat,” and noted that donors to the party are “pissed” because over $2 billion was donated to the party during the 2024 election

“It’s my duty of care to ask, 'What the hell happened with that money? Why did we spend it? Why did we spend millions of dollars on five-star hotels for campaign staffers? Why did we spend $500,000 essentially bribing Al Sharpton moments before he interviewed Kamala?' These are legitimate questions, but no, in the cult, you can’t ask questions.”

“Leaving the Democratic Party or even questioning the Democratic Party is like leaving a cult, it’s terrifying.”

Li has been vocal in her criticisms of Harris after the election loss, saying that she is not a candidate that people want, causing backlash.

Trump can be very petty. Though he drives the point home.

raumdeuter:
“This week was harrowing for me. This Saturday I went on Fox and Friends and said that Democrats have a 'stench of loser' hanging over them. As soon as I said that there were boycott campaigns against me… I lost 40,000 followers in four days. People have ... called me a wh*re, they called me the ‘C’ word, they called for me to be deported,” she added.

You can search my name and those terms on X and you can see a bunch of them. All these so-called Democrats, the party of inclusion and diversity, masks off. It’s even worse because they pretend to occupy the moral high ground. At least with Republicans, they are who they are, but Democrats pretend to be so loving and caring and embracing of diversity.”

“But all of a sudden when I dare to utter any criticisms of the goddess Kamala Harris, I get ostracized… Me, after having raised tens of millions of dollars for the party, and I’m being called a grifter?” Li added.

Li described herself as a “conservative Democrat,” and noted that donors to the party are “pissed” because over $2 billion was donated to the party during the 2024 election

“It’s my duty of care to ask, 'What the hell happened with that money? Why did we spend it? Why did we spend millions of dollars on five-star hotels for campaign staffers? Why did we spend $500,000 essentially bribing Al Sharpton moments before he interviewed Kamala?' These are legitimate questions, but no, in the cult, you can’t ask questions.”

“Leaving the Democratic Party or even questioning the Democratic Party is like leaving a cult, it’s terrifying.”

Li has been vocal in her criticisms of Harris after the election loss, saying that she is not a candidate that people want, causing backlash.

The democrat brand is getting toxic.
When, not if there is a massive change of the economic well being and as expected disclosure of democrat crimes, more will flee the sinking ship.

basilico:
A child who needs an ID to buy a beer is mature enough to undergo surgical mutilation, block puberty onset and change gender?
If one can change his gender then they can also change their age . An adult can claim to be a child and sleep with children.
My opinion, many of those who insist on gender changes are perverts and latent paedophiles . They are sexualizing kids before their formative stage in life. A kid should grow up normally without undue influences and free from perverted influencers. A boy who transitions to a girl will obviously be extremely pleased attracting the attention of males , will be proud to revel in their personal changes .Meaning his chances of engaging in sexual activity are much higher than the kids going through normal growth phases.
I liken transitioners to body builders ,there is nothing more pleasing to them than praising their biceps, puffed out chests and their abs.
There are societies that circumcise boys at very early ages , some on the eighth day for religious reasons. I have never heard anyone complain of being circumcised, it does no harm in life.
When it comes to trans , many are just faking it, want to go to women jails ,participate in their sports and use female restrooms.
A gay man who is the "she he" or rather the recipient obviously wants to look sexy and has no qualms taking hormones to acquire the feminine looks and body features.

I've got a close friend who says she was born that way , she lives a miserable life of heartbreaks and searching for like minded girls at every opportunity anywhere. She's just a confused late twenties girl,says she has never slept with a man, ironically has an impressive toys collection. She uses that collection to entice girls. To me it's ensnaring.
Budaatum [b]flows with the flow. Takes liberal positions all the time, but will change stance when it's convenient.[/b]

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-president-elect/3730#122174515

This is Budaatum saying how evil should be confronted from one side of his mouth; from the other side of his mouth, it's hands off. Do what you may because you are the parent of the child who may grow up and realize his or her parents made a decision that is detrimental to their future.

Parents cannot decide to give their kids alcohol but they can decide to castrate them.

budaatum:
There was nothing to defend. Even if it wasn't jihad, it still was very bad.

The British Government can not hide the truth in court, but I can see why they'd not divulge information to those who'd want to do jungle justice on the streets.

Here like in the USA, every one is innocent until their day in court if and when they are found guilty.

The British govt doesn't want to admit it's policies in admitting jihadists and grooming gangs borders on criminal .They said he was born in Cardiff first then admitted he was a Rwandese. That was all I knew till yesterday . About him being a follower of Al Qaeda doctrine.
I doubt he is the only one. Where you think he got the idea that stabbing innocent kids in a school is a good idea? From the Talmud or Old Testament?

bemeruca:
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-president-elect/3730#122174515

This is Budaatum saying how evil should be confronted from one side of his mouth; from the other side of his mouth, it's hands off. Do what you may because you are the parent of the child who may grow up and realize his or her parents made a decision that is detrimental to their future.

Parents cannot decide to give their kids alcohol but they can decide to castrate them.

As per my post I equate proponents of child transitioning to potential paedos or brainwashed liberals.