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NobleStag007:
Laughing so hard

You can cry later

NobleStag007:
1.. basic is the most needed differences. Manmade law vs divine laws

This is vague. Give practical examples.

NobleStag007:
2. As long as the constitution is not asking you to do something that's against Islamic laws. Examples,
It's forbidden for a Muslim to engage in democracy or vote or canvas for votes or join protest or protests in any form against the government
And all these are allowed and enjoined as rights in constitution...as a Muslim, I won't abide by it

This doesn't answer my question. Does Sharia, in any way, contradict the constitution of the country?

Beuberry:
Lie from pit of hell. Ya tricks and plots are exposed. Sharia law in southwest is dead for life.

That is ya cup of tea.

I'm pretty sure you are a kid.


Why the hell would you argue about a topic you have absolutely no idea about?

You have absolutely no idea about your Christianity and you are arguing with me a Muslim about Islam..

The hell is wrong with you

immortalcrown:
This is vague. Give practical examples.

This doesn't answer my question.

1. Standing for the judge when he enters the court. It's forbidden to stand in respect to someone
2. Calling the judge 'my lord' It's only Allah that one can call my Lord
3. Proceedings is based on laws that have too many loopholes that can be exploited to make the offender win and even the punishment to crimes are wean.


Example, if you steal money.. you are caught..taken to Sharia court,
1. You must refund the money you stole
2. You will be punished for stealing







For the second question


I'm only obligated to follow constitutions made by government as long as my religion doesn't prohibit that constitutions I want to follow..
Hence the example of democracy and voting

NobleStag007:
1. Standing for the judge when he enters the court. It's forbidden to stand in respect to someone
2. Calling the judge 'my lord' It's only Allah that one can call my Lord
3. Proceedings is based on laws that have too many loopholes that can be exploited to make the offender win and even the punishment to crimes are wean.


Example, if you steal money.. you are caught..taken to Sharia court,
1. You must refund the money you stole
2. You will be punished for stealing

For the second question

I'm only obligated to follow constitutions made by government as long as my religion doesn't prohibit that constitutions I want to follow..
Hence the example of democracy and voting

No rich Muslim, even the ones that steal or stole public funds as governors, has been taken to Sharia court. Why?

Concerning your response to my question, why not form a country for only Muslims and make Sharia the constitution of your country? Why do you live in Nigeria and disobey the Nigerian constitution?

immortalcrown:
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No rich Muslim, even the ones that steal or stole public funds as governors, has been taken to Sharia court. Why?

Concerning your response to my question, why not form a country for only Muslims and make Sharia the constitution of your country? Why do you live in Nigeria and disobey the Nigerian constitution?

As to rich Muslims stealing and thus... They can't be taken to Sharia law court because it doesn't exists.


Well, as for forming a Muslim nation, that's exactly what we're doing by sensitising people about true Islam. When the real message of Islam get to people..many would revert to Islam.

Living in Nigeria and disobeying the constitution.. according to the said constitution, I have the right not to exercise my rights. So...it's not disobeying

NobleStag007:
As to rich Muslims stealing and thus... They can't be taken to Sharia law court because it doesn't exists.

What exactly does not exist? Is there no Sharia court at all or is the Sharia court for only the poor?

NobleStag007:
Well, as for forming a Muslim nation, that's exactly what we're doing by sensitising people about true Islam. When the real message of Islam get to people..many would revert to Islam.

This is not an answer to my question.

NobleStag007:
Living in Nigeria and disobeying the constitution.. according to the said constitution, I have the right not to exercise my rights. So...it's not disobeying

Explain what you mean here.

immortalcrown:
What exactly does not exist? Is there no Sharia court at all or is the Sharia court for only the poor?

This is not an answer to my question.

Explain what you mean here.

The man is a terrorist. All his summations are bereft of logic and Godly reasoning. He's an agent of public unrest and incitement.
Kobojunkie, MaxInDHouse come and see a specimen called NobleStag007.

NobleStag007:
Oh..sorry...truth hurts.

If Christianity is a real religion.

1. Why did protestants left Catholic?
2. Why is your Bible different?
3. Why is your beliefs different?

Is Jesus a Catholic or protestant.

Thank you.

In religious, social or family associations, dispute can occur and one part or group may leave. But they all beat same surname, goal and anem. Protestants and Catholics call on name of Jehovah through Jesus. They all prayed to Yahweh and Allah in the name of Jesus. If ya yardstick was to be used, I wonder why you wan use ya sharia to kolobi peace of other mulsim sects like Izalah, NASFAT, MSSN, Tagblic, TMC, Mumayiun and other ones you mentioned in ya post that was quoted here. So let's say there's lots of confusion amongst ya midst that's why una no get peace for ya religion of piss. The joke is on you as you read below. Na you write am. You mentioned name of an Alfa named Gbadebo Raaji. Hope he can sue ya ass and hand you over to security experts because the whole Nigeria don't know the evil you might have against that individual and all organizations mentioned above Mr NobleStag007. And ya craze come drive you sotey to trespass to Christianity.
Ya mind will not rest!

NobleStag007:
Hizbiyas: these are the factions that calls themselves Muslims. They are group of people that come together with the same interest or different interests and form a group, named it and follow the rules and regulations of their leaders.

Example,

Sufi ... Those are the alfas with tesuaba, they are the ones that do jalabi and other ships
Ashaira... They're same with Sufi. They put their logical reasons ahead before Qur'an and Sunnah
Tablig... They are created from Sufi. Their leader is a Sufi. Modernized Sufi is what tablig is


MSSN, Nasfat, TMC, Izala and the likes are the civilised sects claiming Islam. They're mixtures of culture, norms and wokeness with a touch of Islam


And there's one called MUMAYIUN, they're are the defenders of all listed above while they claim to be Sunnah. Example, GBADEBO RAAJI.. that comedian called alfa that his video is everywhere online

immortalcrown:
What exactly does not exist? Is there no Sharia court at all or is the Sharia court for only the poor?

This is not an answer to my question.

Explain what you mean here.

There's no Shari'a court in Nigeria. It's in Saudi Arabia



... I'm not obligated to follow man made law ...I'm obligated to follow Shari'a.

Whenever man made law conflicts with Shari'a, I follow Shari'a law. It's as simple as that

NobleStag007:
There's no Shari'a court in Nigeria. It's in Saudi Arabia

1.
I hear that some people had their body parts amputated as punishment for their crimes in the northern region. If this is true, which court carried out the amputation?

2.
If there is no Sharia court in Nigeria, why should the first Sharia court in Nigeria be in Oyo State instead of in a northern state since Islam is most dominant in the north?

NobleStag007:
... I'm not obligated to follow man made law ...I'm obligated to follow Shari'a.

Whenever man made law conflicts with Shari'a, I follow Shari'a law. It's as simple as that

Does this also mean that you are obligated to force Sharia on people who do not want Sharia?

NobleStag007:
There's no Shari'a court in Nigeria. It's in Saudi Arabia



... I'm not obligated to follow man made law ...I'm obligated to follow Shari'a.

Whenever man made law conflicts with Shari'a, I follow Shari'a law. It's as simple as that

They have started it in north since 2001. In Abuja there is sharia court of appeal and in Kwara there is one.

Carry ur nonsense comot.

Same sharia that is the source of Boko Haram in northern Nigeria.

Did koran permit Mohammed to sleep with a 9yr old girl all in the name of religion

Your religion is known for backwardness.

Who is this one? Carry your sharia court go your house with your extended family's houses. Kill yourselves if you go against anything Islam under sharia laws so that we sane people can remain on earth

Beuberry:
They have started it in north since 2001. In Abuja there is sharia court of appeal and in Kwara there is one.

They call it Shari'a court but in realistic nature, they don't practice Shari'a. It's Sufi court.

Kid, go and sleep and stop dragging this discussion back to the beginning

immortalcrown:
1.
I hear that some people had their body parts amputated as punishment for their crimes in the northern region. If this is true, which court carried out the amputation?

2.
If there is no Sharia court in Nigeria, why should the first Sharia court in Nigeria be in Oyo State instead of in a northern state since Islam is most dominant in the north?

Does this also mean that you are obligated to force Sharia on people who do not want Sharia?

1. Definitely, you are the only one that hear that. It's only Amir Muslim (Leader of all Muslim or Leader of a nation in which Shari'a is being used that can carry out punishment of sins)

2. Their so called Shari'a court in a non Muslim county is null and void and the reality of that is what I have said earlier.. it's Sufi court

3. Nobody is forcing anything on anyone. This is not an Islamic nation.. so having Shari'a law is impossible. E.O.D. if Nigeria turns Islamic nation today, then Shari'a law will be imposed.

NobleStag007:
They call it Shari'a court but in realistic nature, they don't practice Shari'a. It's Sufi court.

Kid, go and sleep and stop dragging this discussion back to the beginning

Fossil, go back to sleep cos ya law is dead on arrival. The world is now wise and knew you and ya likes are threats to world peace. But since you all breed like lab rats and carry jihad terrorism on ya head, may Allah grant you all ya waterloo. Keep crying here.

garykoeman:
Carry ur nonsense comot.

Same sharia that is the source of Boko Haram in northern Nigeria.

Did koran permit Mohammed to sleep with a 9yr old girl all in the name of religion

Your religion is known for backwardness.

Laughing in Swahili..


Quoting stuffs about Islam from Wikipedia and internet.. laughing hysterically


If you want to talk about Islam, you quote from Qur'an and Hadith. That's all. Anything aside that is null and void

Beuberry:
Fossil, go back to sleep cos ya law is dead on arrival. The world is now wise and knew you and ya likes are threats to world peace. But since you all breed like lab rats and carry jihad terrorism on ya head, may Allah grant you all ya waterloo. Keep crying here.

Only criminals will hate Shari'a law.

NobleStag007:
1. Definitely, you are the only one that hear that. It's only Amir Muslim (Leader of all Muslim or Leader of a nation in which Shari'a is being used that can carry out punishment of sins)

2. Their so called Shari'a court in a non Muslim county is null and void and the reality of that is what I have said earlier.. it's Sufi court

3. Nobody is forcing anything on anyone. This is not an Islamic nation.. so having Shari'a law is impossible. E.O.D. if Nigeria turns Islamic nation today, then Shari'a law will be imposed.

You didn't answer my second question. If there is no Sharia court in Nigeria yet and Oyo State is not the place where Islam is most dominant in Nigeria, why should the first Sharia court in Nigeria be in Oyo State instead of in the place where Islam is most dominant in the same Nigeria?

Concerning your last point in which you said that nobody is forcing Sharia on those who do not want Sharia, why do vehicles transporting alcohol get destroyed in the North by hisbah police? Does hisbah attack on alcohol dealers contradict Sharia?

NobleStag007:
Only criminals will hate Shari'a law.

Only criminals like you will endorse religious laws in a secular state. What's ya motive if not islamization

Beuberry:
Only criminals like you will endorse religious laws in a secular state. What's ya motive if not islamization

Exactly my point. This is a secular state and Shari'a law can't work here and the so called Shari'a law by those agitating for it and what's practised in the north isn't Shari'a law

immortalcrown:
You didn't answer my second question. If there is no Sharia court in Nigeria yet and Oyo State is not the place where Islam is most dominant in Nigeria, why should the first Sharia court in Nigeria be in Oyo State instead of in the place where Islam is most dominant in the same Nigeria?

Concerning your last point in which you said that nobody is forcing Sharia on those who do not want Sharia, why do vehicles transporting alcohol get destroyed in the North by hisbah police? Does hisbah attack on alcohol dealers contradict Sharia?

You are not getting the point.. even though they're calling it Shari'a law. It's not Sharia court but Sufi court because Muslims is too much marginalised in Oyo. What you are calling Muslims are sufi and Sects.

2.
Exactly my point, they're not practising Shari'a law or court. It's Sufi court and law.



In a Sharia court country.. once you drink alcohol and you are caught, you'll be beaten...40 strokes
As for the dealers, they'll be banned. Alcohol will be eradicated.

NobleStag007:
You are not getting the point.. even though they're calling it Shari'a law. It's not Sharia court but Sufi court because Muslims is too much marginalised in Oyo. What you are calling Muslims are sufi and Sects.

2.
Exactly my point, they're not practising Shari'a law or court. It's Sufi court and law.

In a Sharia court country.. once you drink alcohol and you are caught, you'll be beaten...40 strokes
As for the dealers, they'll be banned. Alcohol will be eradicated.

Are you saying that establishment of a Sharia court will prevent hisbah from attacking alcohol dealers who are not Muslims?

Regarding your claim of marginalisation of Muslims in Oyo State, is Islam the dominant religion in Oyo State? If Islam is not the dominant religion in Oyo State, how exactly are Muslims in Oyo State marginalised?

immortalcrown:
Are you saying that establishment of a Sharia court will prevent hisbah from attacking alcohol dealers who are not Muslims?

Regarding your claim of marginalisation of Muslims in Oyo State, is Islam the dominant religion in Oyo State? If Islam is not the dominant religion in Oyo State, how exactly are Muslims in Oyo State marginalised?

The first thing Shari'a court will ban and eradicate is hisbah. The group is filled with disbelievers claiming Muslims.

If you have ever heard of the word Salaf..then you'll understand that Muslims are greatly marginalised. Very small we are. It's the sects that people recognise as Muslims

NobleStag007:
There's no Shari'a court in Nigeria. It's in Saudi Arabia



... I'm not obligated to follow man made law ...I'm obligated to follow Shari'a.

Whenever man made law conflicts with Shari'a, I follow Shari'a law. It's as simple as that

You're a big fool for saying there's no shari'a court in Nigeria. There's shari'a courts allo over the north and even in Kaduna.

NobleStag007:
Bible isn't holy book. And it's not a revelation from Allah to Eesa.

It's a book written thousands of years after the death of Eesa and it's mostly written by Paul.

Sorry if it seems harsh

Do you know that what you just said is blasphemy as per Islamic context of definitions of blasphemy? Secondly, you has no right to disparage the sacred book of billions of Christians and by biblical standards, Islam is from the devil. It's another gospel which Jesus Christ did not give you.

Galatians 1:8-9 ESV
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. [9] As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

2 Corinthians 11:4 ESV
For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough.

NobleStag007:
Exactly my point. This is a secular state and Shari'a law can't work here and the so called Shari'a law by those agitating for it and what's practised in the north isn't Shari'a law

Thunder faya ya mouth and blokkos. Lier. You are changing gear. DSS, NPF, PRESIDENCY see this unstable religious fanaticncalled NobleStag007. All you have written are duly noted. Enemy of state in disguise.

Beuberry:
Thunder faya ya mouth and blokkos. Lier. You are changing gear. DSS, NPF, PRESIDENCY see this unstable religious fanaticncalled NobleStag007. All you have written are duly noted. Enemy of state in disguise.

Kid.. go sleep

NobleStag007:
Bible isn't holy book. And it's not revelation from Allah to Eesa.

It's a book written thousands of years after the death of Eesa and it's mostly written by Paul.

Sorry if it seems harsh

There is no harshness. It is the blatant lies from you that I am bothered about.

1. Parts of the Bible have been written even before Jesus and Paul were born, as witnessed by Jesus reading portions of the Book of Isaiah (Isaiah 61:1–2) when he was at the Synagogue as reported in Luke 4:17 - 21.

2. The New Testament has been preserved in more manuscripts than any other ancient work of literature, with over 5,800 complete or fragmented Greek manuscripts catalogued, 10,000 Latin manuscripts and 9,300 manuscripts in various other ancient languages like Syriac, Slavic, Gothic, Ethiopic, Coptic, Nubian, and Armenian. These date back to as early as AD 125 and definitely not thousands of years after the death or birth of Jesus as you erroneously claim.

3. The Bible is clearly written under divine inspiration from God and has miraculously withstood criticisms and several severe attempts to bury it over the years. Prophecies written in earlier books hundred of years before came to pass as witnessed in later books, all building a divine harmony and coherence in its theme.

If any book is deserving of being labeled as not a Holy Book, then it is the Quran and not the Bible.

1. Muslims with their blasphemy laws and violent attacks have protected the Quran from criticisms rather than allowing Allah to sustain its existence. Any book for which criticism is forbidden at the pain of death shows it is a book yhat can hardly hold up to criticism in the first place. Why would Allah be afraid of the criticisms of mere mortals?

2. The Quran in different versions were only compiled from various fragments after the death of Mohammad. There was no completed book like the Quran of today when Mohammad was alive.

3. It was Uthman ibn Affan, the third Rashidun Caliph, that commissioned the creation of a standardized version of the Quran in about 650 AD years after the death of Mohammad. He was the one that had all other versions of the Quran that existed burned. Consequently, the choice of what went into the final or standard version of the Quran was at the discretion of Uthman.

4. In fact the Quran as it exists today is sometimes known as the Uthmanic codex.

Before you cast aspersions on the Holy Book of others, examine yours carefully and do not be violent when yours is being criticized. And please stop the lies.

References:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Quran

NobleStag007:
Kid.. go sleep

Fossil the whole world isn't asleep. Ya yansh done open

Babinski:
There is no harshness. It is the blatant lies from you that I am bothered about.

1. Parts of the Bible have been written even before Jesus and Paul were born, as witnessed by Jesus reading portions of the Book of Isaiah (Isaiah 61:1–2) when he was at the Synagogue as reported in Luke 4:17 - 21.

2. The New Testament has been preserved in more manuscripts than any other ancient work of literature, with over 5,800 complete or fragmented Greek manuscripts catalogued, 10,000 Latin manuscripts and 9,300 manuscripts in various other ancient languages like Syriac, Slavic, Gothic, Ethiopic, Coptic, Nubian, and Armenian. These date back to as early as AD 125 and definitely not thousands of years after the death or birth of Jesus as you erroneously claim.

3. The Bible is clearly written under divine inspiration from God and has miraculously withstood criticisms and several severe attempts to bury it over the years. Prophecies written in earlier books hundred of years before came to pass as witnessed in later books, all building a divine harmony and coherence in its theme.

If any book is deserving of being labeled as not a Holy Book, then it is the Quran and not the Bible.

1. Muslims with their blasphemy laws and violent attacks have protected the Quran from criticisms rather than allowing Allah to sustain its existence. Any book for which criticism is forbidden at the pain of death shows it is a book yhat can hardly hold up to criticism in the first place. Why would Allah be afraid of the criticisms of mere mortals?

2. The Quran in different versions were only compiled from various fragments after the death of Mohammad. There was no completed book like the Quran of today when Mohammad was alive.

3. It was Uthman ibn Affan, the third Rashidun Caliph, that commissioned the creation of a standardized version of the Quran in about 650 AD years after the death of Mohammad. He was the one that had all other versions of the Quran that existed burned. Consequently, the choice of what went into the final or standard version of the Quran was at the discretion of Uthman.

4. In fact the Quran as it exists today is sometimes known as the Uthmanic codex.

Before you cast aspersions on the Holy Book of others, examine yours carefully and do not be violent when yours is being criticized. And please stop the lies.

References:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Quran

God bless you. Allah aka Jehovah, Chineke bless you. You have exposed their yansh. Are these the ones looking for converts in their religion of piss?
AntiChristian Rashduct4luv Krismas NobleStag007, Lukgaf and other îslamists terror simps come and cry here.

Beuberry:
God bless you. Allah aka Jehovah, Chineke bless you. You have exposed their yansh. Are these the ones looking for converts in their religion of piss?
AntiChristian Rashduct4luv Krismas NobleStag007, Lukgaf and other îslamists terror simps come and cry here.

I didn't reply his post because he wasn't making sense.


Those monikers you called on me are your brothers