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if Jesus wept when one Lazarus was lost in time,
how much more would he weep when thousands of lazurus are lost for eternity?.

ho! look ! Jesus cries always because of the souls that get lost for eternity .!
Though he died for them to be saved yet many don't know about that .
You reader is the one to help them know by preaching to them ,lmanifesting the character of christ before them .

He said many souls go to hell because his people (some Christians) are careless ,and indifferent of the need to evangelize to the unbelievers ,sinners and the backsliders .

My people would not obey me when I tell them to pray for the lost or preach to them
And for that reason many are lost .
They are waiting for me to save the world but I have given them the ministry of reconciling the world to my father .
I am only the head your are my hands through which I work ,and you are my legs through which I walk
Without you (yes you christian that is reading this right now ) I can not do (much)concerning the salvation of any man .
I need you to do my work ,as you need me to do something for you.

As you are praying to me and waiting for me to do something for you ,that is how I am hoping ,and waiting for you to do Something for me .

Then
John 11:35
[35]Jesus wept.

a soul he died for just landed in hell,
and the screams beneath always break his heart .
sweet Jesus is sad, and very bitter at heart.
many Sundays when we were up here on earth dancing in the church ,
he is down there in hell wailing for the lost.

so sing this song to him now and always .

Say

"Jesus come closer ,
let me wipe your tears .
jesus bring your ears ,let me sing for you .
jesus take my hands ,let's go where you want.
Jesus take my heart , share your pains with me."

"Jesus come closer ,
let me wipe your tears .
jesus bring your ears ,let me sing for you .
jesus take my hands ,let's go where you want.
Jesus take my heart , share your pains with me.


"Jesus come closer ,
let me wipe your tears .
jesus bring your ears ,let me sing for you .
jesus take my hands ,let's go where you want.
Jesus take my heart , share your pains with me

this is more than a song
it is a means to catch burdens and pray for the salvation of the lost out there .
it is a call and an admonishing to seek the lost and perishing .
for in doing this you will wipe a way his tears and bring smile to his face.

The harvest is plenty the laborers are few ,so pray he the lord of harvest to send more laborers into his harvest
..

Speaklove:
if Jesus wept when one Lazarus was lost in time,

You see how you people change The Truth into a Lie because of your agenda?

And after this, those satanist would use it to stand on the rubbish you said to start speaking their own rubbish.

Lazarus was a friend, as proven by the statement of Jews "behold, how he loved him".

Hence we see at the first, Jesus did not cry or bother when He heard he had died (for it was even obviously His Plan to show the world that death serves Him as He Said "but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby."

And Lazarus got "a sleeping" and "not a lost in time", as you wrongly said!

Clearly, it was when Mary and the people came crying, He was then moved to tears.

Which is why we sing Don Moen's song
"God With Us"

He walked where I walked
He stood where I stand
He felt what I feel
He understand

So, do not Twist or Alter The Truth!

Remember to pray for the lost as you pray for yourself

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Theken1966:
Millions of people around the world die every year. This is heartbreaking and very tragic. More than 12 billion people are currently living, and a quarter of the world's population are Christians. Must you check best uk essay writing services and learn more new steps about college work. Despite the prevalence of Christianity in the world, it is still a minority religion and has a poor reputation around the globe. Many people have lost loved ones to persecution, war, and natural disaster.

Hmm .
it saddening to hear you say this ,and I could feel your weren't happy with somethings.
You weren't critising you are open minded and I think we could have some great time with you on this thread and platform .

Dtruthspeaker:
You see how you people change The Truth into a Lie because of your agenda?

And after this, those satanist would use it to stand on the rubbish you said to start speaking their own rubbish.

Lazarus was a friend, as proven by the statement of Jews "behold, how he loved him".

Hence we see at the first, Jesus did not cry or bother when He heard he had died (for it was even obviously His Plan to show the world that death serves Him as He Said "but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby."

And Lazarus got "a sleeping" and "not a lost in time", as you wrongly said!

Clearly, it was when Mary and the people came crying, He was then moved to tears.

Which is why we sing Don Moen's song
"God With Us"

He walked where I walked
He stood where I stand
He felt what I feel
He understand

So, do not Twist or Alter The Truth!

You should quote me with the aim to refute an epistle birthed out of the scripture without
Making references to any verse from the same holy writ .
Don't try to condemn what I wrote by merely presenting your own opinion without the backing of the scriptures.

If you claimed Jesus didn't weep then feel free to explain what took place in the context of that scripture I quoted .

Please don't derail this thread please���

Speaklove:
You should quote me with the aim to refute an epistle birthed out of the scripture without
Making references to any verse from the same holy writ .

These days everyone knows the contents of the Bible but if you thought I did not lay any verse, here is a repetition of what I said with the reference thereof.

"Lazarus was a friend, as proven by the statement of Jews "behold, how he loved him". John 11:36

Hence we see at the first, Jesus did not cry or bother when He heard he had died (for it was even obviously His Plan to show the world that death serves Him as He Said "but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby." John 11:4

Clearly, it was when Mary and the people came crying, He was then moved to tears. John 11: 31-33.

Speaklove:
If you claimed Jesus didn't weep then feel free to explain what took place in the context of that scripture I quoted .

Please don't derail this thread please���

As I said, Hence we see at the first, Jesus did not cry. Just read john 11 and see whether it was not until Mary and her jew company came that He was "moved" in verse 33 and eventually cried in verse 35.

Dtruthspeaker:
These days everyone knows the contents of the Bible but if you thought I did not lay any verse, here is a repetition of what I said with the reference thereof.

"Lazarus was a friend, as proven by the statement of Jews "behold, how he loved him". John 11:36

Hence we see at the first, Jesus did not cry or bother when He heard he had died (for it was even obviously His Plan to show the world that death serves Him as He Said "but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby." John 11:4

Clearly, it was when Mary and the people came crying, He was then moved to tears. John 11: 31-33.



As I said, Hence we see at the first, Jesus did not cry. Just read john 11 and see whether it was not until Mary and her jew company came that He was "moved" in verse 33 and eventually cried in verse 35.

Well .
May God continue to enlighten you sir .
And the devil not succeed in deceiving those who don't want to be deceived .

Let there be love and oneness among us
How ever we should continue to speaks the truth no matter who is against or for it .

We can do nothing against the truth for it shall be proven to be right and justified at the end .
Those who are bias at heart ,and chose to be sentimental will only end up destroying themselves ,for they chose to stay in darkness because the light wasn't coming from their camp so they chose to rather remain than to run into the light .

Speaklove:
Well .
May God continue to enlighten you sir .
And the devil not succeed in deceiving those who don't want to be deceived .

Let there be love and oneness among us
How ever we should continue to speaks the truth no matter who is against or for it .

We can do nothing against the truth for it shall be proven to be right and justified at the end .
Those who are bias at heart ,and chose to be sentimental will only end up destroying themselves ,for they chose to stay in darkness because the light wasn't coming from their camp so they chose to rather remain than to run into the light .

Amen.

Jesus is looking and searching for men who will give themselves to intercession and intercede for the lost souls all over the world

Let me not be a shame to be called by your name .
Let me not be among them that would grieve your heart again .

Please help me to hon our your holy spirit and obey him .
Help me father please help me

I will put you in front
In front of my melody
You are all that matters
You are all that matters

I will make room for two
You and I Jesus
You are all that matters
You are all that matters

Owe owe
You are all that matters
Owe owe
You are all that matters

By J.U.C

LET HIM MATTER .

It's a good thing to sing unto the lord.

Jesus is so burdened that we neglect those who don't know him while we celebrate among ourselves about going to heaven .

We watch others helplessly go to hell because no body cares for them ; but Christ cares .
But is concern for their predicament can only be expressed through us who are saddled with the responsibility of bringing to the knowledge of the gospel and leading to Christ .

Wake up and do something about that person you know doesn't know Christ .
Wake up !

Long but a necessary story

ho lord use me for your glory

Jesus is the way the truth band the life.

Speaklove:
Jesus is so burdened that we neglect those who don't know him while we celebrate among ourselves about going to heaven .

We watch others helplessly go to hell because no body cares for them ; but Christ cares .
But is concern for their predicament can only be expressed through us who are saddled with the responsibility of bringing to the knowledge of the gospel and leading to Christ .

Wake up and do something about that person you know doesn't know Christ .
Wake up !

Hell is where humans go when they dies as shown in the screenshot below. There is no consciousness in hell.

Michael547:
Hell is where humans go when they dies as shown in the screenshot below. There is no consciousness in hell.

Knowledge is different from consciousness .

You might have the knowledge of God and yet not have consciousness of his presence in your environment while you commit sin in secret .

The verses you quoted is talking about knowledge not consciousness .

I am anticipating your sweet response.

Speaklove:
Knowledge is different from consciousness .

You might have the knowledge of God and yet not have consciousness of his presence in your environment while you commit sin in secret .

The verses you quoted is talking about knowledge not consciousness .

I am anticipating your sweet response.

So what does consciousness in hell entail?

Michael547:
So what does consciousness in hell entail?

Consciousness means life .
It is by consciousness that one Interface with reality .
What ever you are not conscious of is not yet real to you even if you are seeing it .

Some people are not yet in hell but they are conscious of it and that consciousness is the evidence that they believe in hell ,there are having a taste of what it could be like even before they go there .
Some people have the knowledge of hell but they don't have the consciousness of it ,so it becomes unreal to them even though they have its knowledge they forget about hell and then sin unpresumptuously because they couldn't not touch or feel hell again through their consciousness .

So coming to your question:

consciousness in hell entails death .
It entails spiritual death .
Though some of those in hell have the knowledge of the holy spirit they can't perceive him anymore .(they are now separated from the mingling of the holy spirit which comes by being conscious of the holy spirit)
They can't hear the sound of that small still voice that usually try to correct them or stop them from sining eg . masturbating ,lying , phonography , stealing , etcetera .

That voice is gone forever because there is no need of repentance in hell .
So consciousness in hell represent having the opposite of the small still voice ,now the consciousness that the have is the voice that accuses them ,reminds them of how they were preach to but they refused to repent .
Reminds them that they have loves one on earth who would soon join them .

So conscious in hell entails being constantly reminded of ones sin, one's family earth .

,sorrow born out of reminiscing about chances and opportunities that could have stop one from coming there but which one took for granted .

Speaklove:
Consciousness means life .
It is by consciousness that one Interface with reality .
So conscious in hell entails being constantly reminded of ones sin, one's family earth .

Please do you agree with this book?


For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

Speaklove:
Consciousness means life .
It is by consciousness that one Interface with reality .
What ever you are not conscious of is not yet real to you even if you are seeing it .

Some people are not yet in hell but they are conscious of it and that consciousness is the evidence that they believe in hell ,there are having a taste of what it could be like even before they go there .
Some people have the knowledge of hell but they don't have the consciousness of it ,so it becomes unreal to them even though they have its knowledge they forget about hell and then sin unpresumptuously because they couldn't not touch or feel hell again through their consciousness .

So coming to your question:

consciousness in hell entails death .
It entails spiritual death .
Though some of those in hell have the knowledge of the holy spirit they can't perceive him anymore .(they are now separated from the mingling of the holy spirit which comes by being conscious of the holy spirit)
They can't hear the sound of that small still voice that usually try to correct them or stop them from sining eg . masturbating ,lying , phonography , stealing , etcetera .

That voice is gone forever because there is no need of repentance in hell .
So consciousness in hell represent having the opposite of the small still voice ,now the consciousness that the have is the voice that accuses them ,reminds them of how they were preach to but they refused to repent .
Reminds them that they have loves one on earth who would soon join them .

So conscious in hell entails being constantly reminded of ones sin, one's family earth .

,sorrow born out of reminiscing about chances and opportunities that could have stop one from coming there but which one took for granted .

You are funny oo.....how can one have knowledge of the Holy spirit In a place where knowledge does not exist?

How can one be reminded of of his or her loved ones in a place where there is no knowledge?

How can one regrets his past actions in a place without knowledge?

You clearly have a problem of separating consciousness from knowledge as you claimed earlier.

Michael547:
You are funny oo.....how can one have knowledge of the Holy spirit In a place where knowledge does not exist?

How can one be reminded of of his or her loved ones in a place where there is no knowledge?

How can one regrets his past actions in a place without knowledge?

You clearly have a problem of separating consciousness from knowledge as you claimed earlier.

Solomon was speaking about mundane knowledge that can be applied on earth to achieve one or two things like scientific knowledge etc .

Knowledge is different from consciousness .
In the real of the spirit one would have the ability to grasp and know things spontaneously without having ever been taught about them .
That's a product of interfacing with the spirit that has that knowledge by consciousness of that that spirit .

The Bible says " the spirit will reveal things ears haven't hear nor seens by eyes through his spirit to the believer ."
This is the product of perception achieved by conscious .

Note I never said no knowledge in hell but only said what Solomon said is knowledge and not consciousness .
Because they wrote consciousness ,and there was no consciousness in the Scriptures you posted .

The knowledge Solomon was talking about is not awareness but mundane knowledge that one acquire in order to make impact on earth .
You dont acquire consciousness or self-awareness . It's natural

Those knowledge would have no use in hell so do what's need to be done with them before you die . that's what Solomon was saying .

Speaklove:
Solomon was speaking about mundane knowledge that can be applied on earth to achieve one or two things like scientific knowledge etc .

Knowledge is different from consciousness .
In the real of the spirit one would have the ability to grasp and know things spontaneously without having ever been taught about them .
That's a product of interfacing with the spirit that has that knowledge by consciousness of that that spirit .

The Bible says " the spirit will reveal things ears haven't hear nor seens by eyes through his spirit to the believer ."
This is the product of perception achieved by conscious .

Note I never said no knowledge in hell but only said what Solomon said is knowledge and not consciousness .
Because they wrote consciousness ,and there was no consciousness in the Scriptures you posted .

The knowledge Solomon was talking about is not awareness but mundane knowledge that one acquire in order to make impact on earth .
You dont acquire consciousness or self-awareness . It's natural

Those knowledge would have no use in hell so do what's need to be done with them before you die . that's what Solomon was saying .

So where does the Bible distinguish between the knowledge humans have on earth and between the one in hell. Is there any knowledge in hell that we don't have here on earth? If yes, what knowledge?

MaxInDHouse:
Please do you agree with this book?


For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

The dead no nothing more than that which they knew .
They don't know what's going on on earth .

Theses are my three witnesses .

Witness 1.

Luke 16:20-25
[20]But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate,
[21]desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
[22]So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried.
[23]And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
[24]“Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’
[25]But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.


Second witness .:

Revelation 20:4
[4]And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Third witness.

Revelation 6:9-11
[9]When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.
[10]And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
[11]Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed. Sixth Seal: Cosmic Disturbances

By the mouth of two or three witnesses a thing shall be established .

Michael547:
So where does the Bible distinguish between the knowledge humans have on earth and between the one in hell. Is there any knowledge in hell that we don't have here on earth? If yes, what knowledge?

First reply :

Don't get me wrong .
I said there are some knowledge that will be no longer relevant after ones death .
I think maybe that came late or you did not see it .
So read my reply again .

After that I will gice you the second reply .
I just want you to understand my point .

Speaklove:
First reply :

Don't get me wrong .
I said there are some knowledge that will be no longer relevant after ones death .
I think maybe that came late or you did not see it .
So read my reply again .

After that I will gice you the second reply .
I just want you to understand my point .

Where does the Bible speak of partial knowledge in hell.

Michael547:
Where does the Bible speak of partial knowledge in hell.

I never spoke about partial knowledge but irrelevant knowledge

Speaklove:
I never spoke about partial knowledge but irrelevant knowledge

Where did you get your interpretation of relevant knowledge in hell?

Michael547:
Where did you get your interpretation of relevant knowledge in hell?

Mentioned one knowledge you have currently on earth that wouldn't be irrelevant to have in hell.