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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Michael547(m): 9:21pm On Dec 27, 2024
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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 2:36am On Dec 28, 2024
how the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc.

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Jehovah's Witness - "Good morning! Do you know that millions now living will never die? I mean just what I say - that millions now living are never going to die. 'The Finished Mystery', the posthumous work of Pastor Russell, tells why there are millions now living who will never die; and if you can keep alive until 1925 you have excellent chances of being one of them."

Jehovah's Witness - "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during the year.

1925 January - 'Now, we are not sure about 1925'



"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:05pm On Dec 28, 2024
Nice thread!
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Michael547(m): 9:15pm On Dec 28, 2024
Nice
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
Nice thread!
Michael547: Nice
lost false jw mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

you and mickey are back showing more of your mental disorders again, smiley
u 2 r so queer, aren't u

your repeating the same things over and over again is called; repetitive obsessive compulsion,
your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) which is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 4:37am On Dec 29, 2024
Michael547:
Nice
not all there mickey, you have got yourself a mad follower

MaxInDHouse: Nice
Luk 6:39  And He also spoke a parable to them: "A blind man cannot guide a blind man, can he? Will they not both fall into a pit?
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:23am On Dec 29, 2024
Beautiful
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Aemmyjah(m): 6:27am On Dec 29, 2024
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

you and mickey are back showing more of your mental disorders again, smiley
u 2 r so queer, aren't u

your repeating the same things over and over again is called; repetitive obsessive compulsion,
your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) which is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease
Jehovah's Witnesses are rejoicing out of the good condition of the heart
Keep wailing and gnashing teeth
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:35am On Dec 29, 2024
Aemmyjah:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are rejoicing out of the good condition of the heart
Keep wailing and gnashing teeth
No wonder Jehovah began calling us by another group name!


Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: “My servants will eat, but you will go hungry; my servants will drink, but you will go thirsty; my servants will rejoice, but you will be put to shame. My servants will sing out of the joy of their hearts, but you will cry out from anguish of heart and wail in brokenness of spirit. You will leave your name for my chosen ones to use in their curses; the Sovereign Lord will put you to death, but to his servants he will give another name. ‭Isaiah 65:13-15 NIV‬
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 7:38am On Dec 29, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Jehovah's Witnesses are rejoicing out of the good condition of the heart
Keep wailing and gnashing teeth
lost false jw aemmy

i am neither wailing or gnashing my teeth, but you people can never stop lying and falsely accusing like your father the devil, can you:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Michael547(m): 8:12am On Dec 29, 2024
Lovely
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 8:42am On Dec 29, 2024
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc. saying the world will end in 1975

billionbibles..com
1968 - "Armageddon will be in 1975" page 4 of the October 8, 1968 issue of the Awake! magazine
1968 - the world has only a few years of existance left < talking of 1975



"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Michael547(m): 11:43am On Dec 29, 2024
Nice
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10pm On Dec 29, 2024
Insightful! smiley
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 10:11pm On Dec 29, 2024
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc.

jwfacts..com
"Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878, and that the "battle of the great day of God Almighty" (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced. The gathering of the armies is plainly visible from the standpoint of God's Word."
Studies In the Scriptures - The Time Is At Hand (1889) p.101



"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:51am On Dec 30, 2024
Informative!
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 9:13am On Dec 30, 2024
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc.

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The End the "Day of Vengeance" (Armageddon)

Armageddon, also referred to as the Day of Vengeance, and the Battle of the Great Day, was to end in October 1914.

"we have seen that God has a set time for every feature of his plan, and that we are even now in this "Day of Vengeance," which is a period of forty years; that it began in October, 1874, and will end in October, 1914." Studies In the Scriptures - The Day of Vengeance 1911ed pp.546,547




"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:20am On Dec 30, 2024
Beautiful!
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Michael547(m): 11:03am On Dec 30, 2024
Nice thread
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Michael547(m): 5:55pm On Dec 30, 2024
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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by VicM6: 8:56pm On Dec 30, 2024
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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47:
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc.


"... the "battle of the great day of God Almighty" (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced."
Studies In the Scriptures - The Time Is At Hand (1889) p.101

144,000 Resurrected to Heaven

The 144,000, also known as the "body of Christ" or "the saints", were to all be in heaven by 1914, prior to the completion of Armageddon.

"That the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest, since the deliverance of fleshly Israel, as we shall see, is appointed to take place at that time... Just how long before 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, we are not directly informed;..." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come (1908 ed.) p.228

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"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:19am On Dec 31, 2024
Truth!
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 9:49am On Dec 31, 2024
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc.

1. Jesus started being present with His people in 1874, and He started ruling in heaven in 1878 (ibid., p. 236, 239–40).

2. The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).

3. Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874; (Watchtower Jan 1, 1924 p.5)

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"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:06am On Dec 31, 2024
God's Organization!
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 10:24pm On Dec 31, 2024
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc.

The Time is At Hand - 7 (Unfulfilled) Expectations

The Time Is at Hand (1889) pages 76 to 78 claimed seven things would happen in 1914. Not one of these eventuated. The following statements are extracted from that list;

1. "the disintegration of the rule of imperfect men. Firstly, That at that date the Kingdom of God, for which our Lord taught us to pray, saying, "Thy Kingdom come," will begin to assume control, and that it will then shortly be "set up," or firmly established, in the earth, on the ruins of present institutions."
2. He whose right it is thus to take the dominion will then be present as earth's new Ruler; and not only so, but it will also prove that he will be present for a considerable period before that date;
3. the last member of the divinely recognized Church of Christ, the "royal priesthood," "the body of Christ," will beglorified with the Head;
4. Jerusalem shall no longer be trodden down
5. Israel's blindness will begin to be turned away
6. the great "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation," will reach its culmination in a world-wide reign of anarchy
7. It will prove that before that date God's Kingdom, organized in power, will be in the earth and then smite and crush the Gentile image (Dan. 2:34)-and fully consume the power of these kings." Studies In the Scriptures Series II - The Time Is at Hand (1889) pp.76-78


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"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:48pm On Dec 31, 2024
Insightful!
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 3:06am On Jan 01, 2025
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc.

Watchtower's Dishonest Presentation of its' History

When reading these quotes, it is important to remember that in 1914 the Watchtower was teaching Jesus' presence began in 1874 and his heavenly rulership began in 1878.

"Our belief that the Kingdom began to be setup, or brought into power, in April, 1878, be it observed, rests on exactly the same foundation as our belief that the Lord became present in October, 1874, and that the harvest began at that time." Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.235

As late as 1930, the Watchtower was still referring to 1874 as the start of Jesus presence.

"… from the beginning of the Lord’s presence in 1874 the Devil used the Papal system as the chief opposing instrument of God’s kingdom …" Watch Tower 1930 Sep 15 p.275

Those in Watchtower's writing department are well aware of the organisation's history. For instance, the 1993 Proclaimers book states:

"Based on the premise that events of the first century might find parallels in related events later, they also concluded that if Jesus’ baptism and anointing in the autumn of 29 C.E. paralleled the beginning of an invisible presence in 1874, then his riding into Jerusalem as King in the spring of 33 C.E. would point to the spring of 1878 as the time when he would assume his power as heavenly King." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.632

Yet in that very same year, Watchtower articles falsely claim:

"The Watchtower[1] has consistently presented evidence to honest hearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914. Events since that year testify to Jesus' invisible presence." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5

"Jehovah's Witnesses have consistently shown from the Scriptures that the year 1914 marked the beginning of this world's time of the end and that "the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men" has drawn near." Watchtower 1993 Aug 15 p.9

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"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 8:55am On Jan 01, 2025
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc.


1897 “Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874,” (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621).

1899 ” . . . the ‘battle of the great day of God Almighty’ (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth’s present rulership, is already commenced,” (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).

1916 “The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ’s Reign, began in 1873,” (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii).

1918 “Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection,” (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).

1922 “The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914,” (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).

1923 “Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge,” (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).

1925 “The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time, God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year,” (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).

1925 “It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work,” (Watchtower, Sept. 1925, p. 262).

1926 “Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything,” (Watchtower, p. 232).

1931 “There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah’s faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1914, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time. . . . and they also learned to quit fixing dates for the future….” (Vindication, pp. 338, 339).

1941 “Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord’s provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon,” (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).



1897 “Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874,” (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621).
1914 "The second coming of Christ dates from the fall of the year 1914" What is Truth? (1932) p.48


"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 10:04pm On Jan 01, 2025
reason for not respecting the so called Jehovah's witnesses - they are false prophets etc.


A.D. 1914, 607 B.C., 586 B.C. and the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

An absolutely critical date for the Jehovah’s Witnesses is A.D. 1914. It is the date when, according to the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the time of the Gentiles ended (Watchtower, 5/1/93, page 11) and “Jesus-the heavenly warrior Michael-became King of God’s heavenly Kingdom” (Watchtower 11/1/93, page 23). To arrive at this date, the Witnesses take the account in Daniel 4 and apply a 360 day year for each of the seven “times” for a total of 2520 years. They add this date to 607 B.C., their date for the fall of Jerusalem under Nebuchadnezzar, and arrive at 1914 A.D., the date when Jesus supposedly returned invisibly in the heavens (The Truth Shall Make You Free, p. 300), the “appointed time of the nations” ended (The Time is at Hand, page 79), and the beginning of the end of the world commenced (Watchtower 11/15/50, page 438). Please consider the following quote.

“This marked time began in the year (A.D.) 1914. In that important year the ‘appointed times of the nations,’ 2,520 years long, ran out. If we measure back that many years from 1914, we come to the ancient date of 607 B.C. That year was marked for the overthrow of the earthly “throne of Jehovah” and for the destruction of the throne city of Jerusalem and its sanctuary and for the total desolation of the land of the kingdom of Judah.” (From the Book, “Your Will,” 1958, pp. 309-310, Watchtower CD, emphasis added).

Therefore, the date 607 B.C. becomes the critical date in question. Was 607 B.C. the date when Jerusalem fell? No, it wasn’t. No Bible scholar and no archaeological scholar holds to that date. The correct date is 586 B.C. and not 607 B.C. Therefore, the Jehovah’s Witnesses are wrong about 1914 and everything else they attach to that date based on their prophet’s misunderstanding. Let’s verify further than 607 B.C. is the date used by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society before we establish the counter-evidence.

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"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 9:10am On Jan 02, 2025
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc.


“The true prophet Jeremiah, not the false prophets, was vindicated when Jerusalem was razed by Babylonian soldiers in 607 B.C.E., the temple destroyed, and the populace either killed or dragged away captive to distant Babylon. The pitiful few that were left in the land fled into Egypt.-Jeremiah 39:6-9; 43:4-7,” (Watchtower, 2/1/92, page 4).

“In 607 B.C.E., Israel was taken into captivity for 70 years,” (Watchtower 4/15/92, page 10).
“Samaria fell to the Assyrians in 740 B.C.E., and Jerusalem and its temple were destroyed by the Babylonians in 607 B.C.E,” (Watchtower, 11/1/92, page 13).

“The Babylonians came in 607 B.C.E. and stripped Jerusalem bare. Her people and her wealth were carried off to Babylon. The city was destroyed, the temple was burned, and the land was left desolate.-2 Chronicles 36:17-21,” (Watchtower 10/15/88, page 16).
The following are citations verifying that the correct date for the fall of Jerusalem was not 607 B.C. but 586 B.C.

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"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 10:07am On Jan 03, 2025
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us

they are false prophets etc.


According to Encyclopedia.com, the Babylonian captivity is defined as “the period from the fall of Jerusalem (586 B.C.) to the reconstruction in Palestine of a new Jewish state (after 538 B.C.).”
“You will recall that the Babylonians, under Nebuchadnezzar, after twice laying siege to Jerusalem, finally captured it in 586 B.C.E. Nebuchadnezzar’s army then pillaged the city, destroying the Temple and sending the inhabitants off to exile in Babylonia. (“Biblical Archaeological Review, Biblical Archaeological Review).
“…Nebuchadnezzar promptly invaded his unhappy country and besieged Jerusalem for a year and a half. In 587 Jerusalem fell and numbers of its inhabitants were carried away captive to Babylonia…” (Unger, Merrill, F., Unger’s Bible Dictionary, Moody Press, Chicago, 1966, page 782).
Notice that the year 587 is offered instead of 586. There is sometimes a difference of opinion as to which year is the exact one. Nevertheless, it is obvious that 607 B.C. is not even close.

“586, Jerusalem destroyed and burned (Jer. 52:13b.); people were taken captive (52:28-30). (The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Eerdmans, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1982, page 1016)

It is quite clear that the Jehovah’s Witness organization is wrong about the 607 B.C. date upon which they place so much of their end times’ theology. If they are wrong about such a basic event and have not changed their error to match historical fact, how can they be trusted to represent biblical truth? They cannot.

The fact is that they can not change their date of 1914 because they have so much invested in it. They are forced to retain their 607 B.C. date even though it is in obvious error. To admit they were wrong is to undermine the whole credibility and truth of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. This they cannot do because they are more dedicated to their organization than they are to the truth.

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"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
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