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immortalcrown:
First of all, introduction. 🎶

How and why did she become a baby mama to him?

AllenSpencer:
If you want to go that route, then you have to start from why he did not use a condom.

You think it’s that easy for a woman to opt for abortion!

If you cannot imagine yourself fathering a child from a lady then don’t fvck her!

…….and a DNA test is not even needed at these point🤣

immortalcrown:
The same logic applies to her. Why didn't she insist on the use of a contraceptive? Why did she even accept to sleep with him in the first place?

AllenSpencer:
Both party’s are to be blamed for negligence, and now that a child is involved, they have to take FULL responsibility.

Real dogs do the fvck and stand with the repercussions. Nick Cannon, Durk, Youngboi and Tuface are good examples. They don’t deny but take charge.

immortalcrown:
Both parties are to be blamed but not equally. The one that will suffer the consequence most is to be blamed most for allowing the action to take place.

Who is begging the public for fund now?

AllenSpencer:
Begging for funds for the replica of a millionaire.

That’s not ballin. He should learn from his friend Davido.

I don’t have a problem with men who are promiscuous, I got them in my family too, but don’t run away when the chips are done. You have a right to DNA and when it’s confirmed, MAN-UP

immortalcrown:
You prefer chasing the shadows of your problems instead of facing the problems directly. That is why you are here sounding as if it is the responsibility of the man to prevent pregnancy in a woman. The man is to be blamed for sleeping with the woman. But the woman is to be blamed most for not only sleeping with the man but for also not insisting on contraceptive and for not caring about whether she was free to meet a man that moment.

AllenSpencer:
Oh! It is not responsibility of a man to prevent pregnancy! I just learnt something new.

So what do condoms and vasectomy prevent?

immortalcrown:
Has it become a rocket science for women to know when they are free to meet a man? Before the invention of condom, wearing to responsible women able to prevent unwanted pregnancies? How are we even sure that this lady's pregnancy was an unwanted one. What if she purposely got pregnant with the hope of using the pregnancy to get a share of the man's wealth?

AllenSpencer:
Why did the man not pull out to be on the safer side. The deed has been done already, and no need debating.

The man should go for a DNA test- which is not even needed and man up if it comes out positive.

The fvcked each other and had a child. That cannot be erased. In Africa and anywhere else, A man bares responsibility for a child- wanted or unwanted. Your blood remains your blood.

He is not the first and won’t be last. Fvckers are still balling everyday and still getting married.

immortalcrown:
It would have been right and wise for you to ask me those questions if I had said that the man does not deserve to be blamed. I made it clear that the man has his own blame. The arguement between you and me is who is to be blamed most between the man and the woman.

Would you teach your daughter that condom is the best and or the only way to prevent pregnancy? Would you teach your daughter that it is right for her not to know when raw sex with a man will result in pregnancy? Answer these very questions if you are sincere in this conversation.

AllenSpencer:
Hello, Abstinence is the best which both did not do. So you expect me to blame the lady and pamper the man?

Any responsible parent always preach abstinence, the moment you void it, you have to take FULL responsibility.

Either of them could have prevented it and both did not do. So what’s the basis of shifting blame about who messed up.

The did has been done. It’s too late to start shifting blame.

Moreover, he is a married man. He should be the most calculative, not the woman. I

immortalcrown:
Why are you dodging my question? Both of them are irresponsible but one is more irresponsible than the other. That is the point.

Would you teach your daughter that condom is the best and or the only way to prevent pregnancy? Would you teach your daughter that it is right for her not to know when raw sex with a man will result in pregnancy? Answer these very questions if you are sincere in this conversation.

AllenSpencer:
What sincerity is demanded here. Do I tell my daughter how to hoe around? Abstinence I will always preach till she is ready. Anything out of that, she must be ready to bare responsibility.

So as a father, you expect me to sit my daughter down and start telling her ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy? I won’t do that.

immortalcrown:
The questions you are dodging apply even in marriage. So, it is very illogical and childish for you to try to dodge the questions.

Would you teach your daughter that condom is the best and or the only way to prevent pregnancy? Would you teach your daughter that it is right for her not to know when raw sex with a man will result in pregnancy? Answer these very questions if you are sincere in this conversation.

AllenSpencer:
What question is being dodged here. I have given you advice I will give to my daughter. So it is my responsibility to start telling her how to Joe and ways of preventing it. At what age do I need to tell all this?

My dad never sat me down to tell me when best to have sex. He always tell me, if I mess up, I will take cool responsibility.

So it’s awkward for you asking me what I will tell my daughter. That when she should always calculate her period when she fvcks, and if she does not, she should use Postinor quickly, and if that fails, she should opt for an abortion quickly.

Is that what you expect me to be telling my daughter? No one told me that, and won’t be telling mumu child. Biology would tell her all she needs to know.

immortalcrown:
Would you teach your daughter that condom is the best and or the only way to prevent pregnancy? Would you teach your daughter that it is right for her not to know when raw sex with a man will result in pregnancy? Answer these very questions if you are sincere in this conversation.

AllenSpencer:
No. I will not.

Abstinence is the best form of prevention.

immortalcrown:
The question is not about abstinence. The question is about nature and applies to marriage.

Would you teach your daughter that condom is the best and or the only way to prevent pregnancy? Would you teach your daughter that it is right for her not to know when raw sex with a man will result in pregnancy? Answer these very questions if you are sincere in this conversation.

AllenSpencer:
Stop over flogging issues and spamming with questions. I said I will not. I am not a doctor. If she demands family planning measures, she will see a doctor.

Condoms and Calenders are not even 100% safe. Ladies can testify to it. It does not stop pregnancy and only a counter measure. Ovulation period shifts and condoms rip. So what point are you trying to make with both measures?

immortalcrown:
Since you understand that even condom is not 100% reliable, why did you start the arguement by insinuating that the man is to take most of or all the blames since he didn't use condom?

AllenSpencer:
I don is a preventive measure. He is a married man. In the first place, he shouldn’t be cheating, and since he has decided to cheat, he is liable for repercussions.

What are we debating here exactly again? That a married man cheated on his wife and got a lady pregnant, and that he shouldn’t be blamed for such?

It’s becoming a baseless argument! If he has abstained and used that energy for his wife alone, he won’t be fathering a child, and since that has happened, he should man up!

The lady could claim she calculated her ovulation period and missed too but it’s all stories. The did has been done. He is not the first and won’t be last. Nick Cannon still popped in 2022 and manning up.

immortalcrown:
Your hypocrisy and insincerity are glaring here. You sound as if I am defending the man. Have I not clearly stated that the man is irresponsible and that he deserves his own share of the blame? The arguement between you and me is that I say the woman is more irresponsible than the man and you are here claiming that the man is more irresponsible than the woman.

AllenSpencer:
How can you say one is more irresponsible than the other when it’s glaring that both are irresponsible.

The MARRIED man who didn’t use a condom or abstain is more responsible than a lady who also did not abstain, use a condom or contraceptive.

There is no class of irresponsibility here. Call a spade a spade and stop designing irresponsibility’s. Both were irresponsible.