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missjekyll:
And when you want to move the money back to dollars?

Probably better to invest in index funds. It's up 50% .

Please how did you invest in index funds from Nigeria?

Meerahbel:
Ah! You are in this section. 2025 go sweet be that.

Joy is Here already.
. Biko remind me. Meerahbel?

RonuMiscreant:
Please how did you invest in index funds from Nigeria?

My bad. I thought you were in the US since you had a dollar account. I apologise.

RayRay06677:
We invested in agbalaka bond backed up by one SW state.

They paid first 3 coupon and when the gov died, next gov ignored us for another 2 years only for Afrinvest to buy us out with only our capital and interest of 2 years gone.

Good news, I got my capital.

Thanks for this useful feedback. Could you please share when the Afrinvest intervention took place as I would like to take it up with them.

They were original bookrunners on the bond and, as I recall, one of the security instruments with this bond was a legally constituted charge on accounts related to the Ondo state allocations from the FGN, and was blessed by the State legislature. Don't want to be flippant but it shouldn't matter whether the Governor died or lived on. So the bond was not really unsecured.

If this arrangement failed then it has implications for similar arrangements elsewhere and must be publicized widely.

Bakosokoto:
You might want to look @ Presco PLC 7yrs Bond on offer now

On this particular bond, yes it is unsecured, but you rely on the Aa rating from Agusto in making the investment decision.

missjekyll:
And when you want to move the money back to dollars?

Probably better to invest in index funds. It's up 50% .

You can exchange naira for dollar anyday anytime

manwomanok:
Description : Bond Purchase: 18,193 FG202033S6 @NGN97.85

amount deducted is about N18,3m

I got the above today. can someone break it down for me before I ask my broker question tomorrow

am a learner in Bond market

your attention please @ skydiver01 , Akerewe ,freeman67, emmasoft, ositadima1 and other boss

Bosses in the house doesn't look at my side this time. I am newbie on Bond investment, don't want to call my broker and ague blindly the reason I brough this for an insight

the gist was I asked my broker to buy me Bond worth of 20m , got a reply that they have only 18m worth, I gave the go ahead

with what I have been learning here It look something is not right, may be an error or something.  my reason of coming to my Bosses to shed more light.

jabolo:
Thanks for this useful feedback. Could you please share when the Afrinvest intervention took place as I would like to take it up with them.

They were original bookrunners on the bond and, as I recall, one of the security instruments with this bond was a legally constituted charge on accounts related to the Ondo state allocations from the FGN, and was blessed by the State legislature. Don't want to be flippant but it shouldn't matter whether the Governor died or lived on. So the bond was not really unsecured.

If this arrangement failed then it has implications for similar arrangements elsewhere and must be publicized widely.


On this particular bond, yes it is unsecured, but you rely on the Aa rating from Agusto in making the investment decision.

Afrinvest paid capital in November 2025.

I rushed and accepted by signing off the interest.

manwomanok:
Bosses in the house doesn't look at my side this time. I am newbie on Bond investment, don't want to call my broker and ague blindly the reason I brough this for an insight

the gist was I asked my broker to buy me Bond worth of 20m , got a reply that they have only 18m worth, I gave the go ahead

with what I have been learning here It look something is not right, may be an error or something.  my reason of coming to my Bosses to shed more light.

You have already bought na wetin you want argue for again again.?

It doesn't look bad, sha.

What's the rate?

Meerahbel:
Which is the best app to use for Till?

You mean TB? I use ARM and they've been very ok

Hi, Abeg guys that previously bought TBs via GTB has the issue of its non appearance on the internet platform been rectified?

missjekyll:
My bad. I thought you were in the US since you had a dollar account. I apologise.

when did I say that?

Please bosses what's the best between Money market fund and tills?

RonuMiscreant:
when did I say that?

Did you not say that? Methinks you did. Right in the middle of your sentence.

NB: I did apologise for misreading you but I m ready to have a big ol' bustup just like in the days of old.

freeman67:
You have already bought na wetin you want argue for again again.?

It doesn't look bad, sha.

What's the rate?

This is my first time buy on secondary market. I use to buy on primary market. the quantity purchased for 18.3m is what am not clear about. anyway I have email my broker this morning. Thank you

RonuMiscreant:
Please bosses what's the best between Money market fund and tills?

If you sense that you would possibly need the money in some days or weeks down the line, go for the Money Market Fund. If you don't have the need for the money for a long while, go for TBills.

In other words, if liquidity is important to you, the Money Market Fund is best for you; if not, TBills could be better for you.

xcitedjay:
If you sense that you would possibly need the money in some days or weeks down the line, go for the Money Market Fund. If you don't have the need for the money for a long while, go for TBills.

In other words, if liquidity is important to you, the Money Market Fund is best for you; if not, TBills could be better for you.

Where is the best place to buy TB's now?

Owon:
The criminal company
African Alliance company PLC has refused to pay me and many others their insured money, months and years after maturity.
THEY HID UNDER THE CLOAK OF ISLAM, WITH THEIR FRAUDULENT TAKAFUL SAVINGS PLAN TO DEFRAUD PEOPLE.
I have written several emails to them without a single response.
I have been to their office at Ikoyi last month to warn them and that my return won't be good...

I HAVE WRITTEN SEVERAL COMPLAINTS AND REPORT TO THE USELESS NIACOM THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE INSURANCE COMPANY POLICE TO PUT THEM TO CHECK, BUT THE USELESS NIACOM IS NOT EVEN RESPONDING.
I THINK AFRICAN ALLIANCE INSURANCE COULD HAVE BRIBED THEM...

Please I want suggestions from people who have had similar experiences with these evil and criminal insurance companies and how they were able to retrieve their money.

https://www.nairaland.com/8050757/how-get-money-criminal-african

African Alliance Insurance annuitants seek four-month arrears payment

Some annuitants of African Alliance Insurance Plc have called on the management/board of the company to pay the four-month arrears owed to them.

The annuitants expressed their reservations in separate interviews with The PUNCH.

The National Insurance Commission dismissed the board and management of African Alliance Insurance in late October and appointed a new board/management to oversee the company’s affairs. Delayed payment of annuitants was one of the reasons for the sacking of the board and management of the company.

Speaking with The PUNCH, one of the annuitants, Gbadebo Olatokunbo, said that he got paid his arrears for May-August in late December and was still being owed for the last four months in 2024.
https://punchng.com/african-alliance-insurance-annuitants-seek-four-month-arrears-payment/

temi4fash:
Where is the best place to buy TB's now?

Contact your bank for purchase.

Auction Result

Please what's your thoughts on this Unitedcapitals stable income fund at 30.89%? Hope the risk is low.

Allboiz:
Please what's your thoughts on this Unitedcapitals stable income fund at 30.89%? Hope the risk is low.

Check the "underlying assets" of the fund. Meaning check what the money is being invested in. I have never notice it or looked for it before so I can say.

Good morning, please does anyone knows the next treasury bill auction date

tabithababy:
Good morning, please does anyone knows the next treasury bill auction date

Next two weeks Wednesday

freeman67:
Check the "underlying assets" of the fund. Meaning check what the money is being invested in. I have never notice it or looked for it before so I can say.

I saw this
Then it's also stated that asset risk is low

manwomanok:
This is my first time buy on secondary market. I use to buy on primary market. the quantity purchased for 18.3m is what am not clear about. anyway I have email my broker this morning. Thank you

they said Bond is denominated as 1000 in the market not the 100 I was using which gave me more unit.

Allboiz:
I saw this
Then it's also stated that asset risk is low

Yes, with the screenshot you posted, the risk is low.

Apologies no one replied to explain your FGN bond purchase to you. I was away over the festive period and just got back. There is nothing fishy other than perhaps your broker fee is included in the price of the bond sold to you. From the price and maturity year, I believe it is the one that matures on 15 May 2033 rather than the one that matures on 21 June 2033.

On that basis, the Nominal value at maturity of your bond purchase is N18,193,000 (you got a little bit more units because the bond price was below the nominal price of N100).

Interest will be paid at a coupon rate of 19.89% per annum (semi-annually i.e. half in May (cN1.8m) and the other half in November (cN1.8m) every year till maturity )

You reference an instruction to your broker to purchase N18m and you were debited N18.3m. The additional N300k was part of the accrued interest due of the bond from 15 November 2024 to early January this year (c6 weeks interest is about N417k meaning you had a balance from the N18m bond purchase instruction of cN117k. This also implies that the price of the bond included your broker fees. I think you might have given the instruction on Friday 3rd January because your initial enquiry post here was on 6 January.

Hope the above provides you with the clarity you seek or the clarity you sought.

manwomanok:
Bosses in the house doesn't look at my side this time. I am newbie on Bond investment, don't want to call my broker and ague blindly the reason I brough this for an insight

the gist was I asked my broker to buy me Bond worth of 20m , got a reply that they have only 18m worth, I gave the go ahead

with what I have been learning here It look something is not right, may be an error or something.  my reason of coming to my Bosses to shed more light.

skydiver01:
Apologies no one replied to explain your FGN bond purchase to you. I was away for the festive period and just got back. There is nothing fishy other than perhaps your broker fee is included in the price of the bond sold to you. From the price and maturity year, I believe it is the one that matures on 15 May 2033 rather than the one that matures on 21 June 2033.

On that basis, the Nominal value at maturity of your bond purchase is N18,193,000 (you got a little bit more units because the bond price was below the nominal price of N100).

Interest will be paid at a coupon rate of 19.89% per annum (semi-annually i.e. half in May (cN1.8m) and the other half in November (cN1.8m) every year till maturity )

You reference an instruction to your broker to purchase N18m and you were debited N18.3m. The additional N300k was part of the accrued interest due of the bond from 15 November 2024 to early January this year (c6 weeks interest is about N417k meaning you had a balance from the N18m bond purchase instruction of cN117k. This also implies that the price of the bond included your broker fees. I think you might have given the instruction on Friday 3rd January because your initial enquiry post here was on 6 January.

Hope the above provides you with the clarity you seek or the clarity you sought.

Thank you bro for your simple explanation as always.

the issue was not even about the addition amount. you particularly in a reply to one of my post have explain how to calculate the accrued interest from day of last interest payment to day bond purchase for dirty price.. the issue is the quantity of 18,193. I thought quantity should be 180,000 following the example you gave to me in the past. below 12m naira bought 120k unit

But I have addressed that issue in my response to you. The price per unit you bought at (N97.85) is lower than N100 so you got a little more units. The example you refer to that I responded to in the past, the purchase price was above N100 per unit and the purchaser asked for a nominal amount of N12m. That is a different kind of instruction. For example, You could have asked for N18m nominal value or you could have asked for N18m worth of bond at the purchase price at the time. Finally, you mentioned your broker uses a multiple of N1000 to covey the number of units purchased or sold. Most brokers or banks I am aware of use a multiple of N100 to convey the number of units bought or sold. The multiple used is nothing for you to worry about because you will be sent an email to convey this information and if you have online access to your account with your broker, you will be able to see the nominal value of the units you purchased. Therefore, with your recent purchase, most banks or brokers will convey the number of units you bought as 181,930 but your broker uses a multiple of N1,000 so it is 18,193 units. What is important is the nominal value of the bonds you purchased which is N18,193,000. Hope this helps to provide the clarity you seek.

manwomanok:
Thank you bro for your simple explanation as always.

the issue was not even about the addition amount. you particularly in a reply to one of my post have explain how to calculate the accrued interest from day of last interest payment to day bond purchase for dirty price.. the issue is the quantity of 18,193. I thought quantity should be 180,000 following the example you gave to me in the past. below 12m naira bought 120k unit

Allboiz:
Please what's your thoughts on this Unitedcapitals stable income fund at 30.89%? Hope the risk is low.

Please which app is this?

Shalom428:
Auction Result

Thanks for this. Biko where did you get the result. Checked dmo site and the one I saw wasn't updated.
Skydiver01, Itsrm and others biko where can I be getting the results after each PMA. THANKS

Odunharry:
Thanks for this. Biko where did you get the result. Checked dmo site and the one I saw wasn't updated.
Skydiver01, Itsrm and others biko where can I be getting the results after each PMA. THANKS

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