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Dtruthspeaker:
Nature already tells everyone that people always speak from personal positions which is proven by his responses.

Secondly, you ended up tying all the issues you are interested in and landing on your own personal issue which is the bold.

And the answer to that question is even before you eg see how you bad the world is today that you people are even running away from family, so called friends, marriage ? What caused it? Because you people are evil

And God warned you all to stop doing and being evil, "that evil may not increase in the land" but you didn't.

Now you are complaining that the earth is killing you with sickness and death and all of these things were not there at the beginning. As you see it is after Noah that He Commands animals that if they kill man, they would answer to Him.

So people are only eating the fruits they have planted, so nobody should disturb God.

And of course, when your girlfriend or wife behaves badly, do you not hide (ghost) them and cast them out?

And when you don't care about a thing eg people don't care about aliens, you don't have time talking rubbish all day about them. So atheists are simply God haters and supporters of evil as many threads have shown.

TenQ:
No. It just simply means that you do NOT understand the Bible holistically. I guess you have sat under pastors who preach one-sided gospels to Deceive you.
Jesus said:

A man's Life does not consist of the abundance of what materials possessions he has acquired.
Luk 12:15:
"And he said to them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consists not in the abundance of the things which he possesses."


The letters kill but the Spirit gives life.


Have a nice day!

Biggeststar01:
I have nothing else to say to you. I’ll advice you not to make quick assumptions when submitting an argument.
It doesn’t help in ensuing a productive conversation when you assume that every one who disagrees with you is either evil, possessed or intransigent. It suppresses your reasoning and prevents you from questioning your own ideas. You don’t assert people’s ignorance or arrogance before inquiry. This doesn’t help in finding the truth.

jaephoenix:
So how come yhwh says we should call on him and he'll answer us? I don't think he said "don't call on me, I have given you all u need to survive. Leave me alone"

Biggeststar01:
I have nothing else to say to you. I’ll advice you not to make quick assumptions when submitting an argument.
It doesn’t help in ensuing a productive conversation when you assume that every one who disagrees with you is either evil, possessed or intransigent. It suppresses your reasoning and prevents you from questioning your own ideas. You don’t assert people’s ignorance or arrogance before inquiry. This doesn’t help in finding the truth.

Biggeststar01:
I have nothing else to say to you. I’ll advice you not to make quick assumptions when submitting an argument.
It doesn’t help in ensuing a productive conversation when you assume that every one who disagrees with you is either evil, possessed or intransigent. It suppresses your reasoning and prevents you from questioning your own ideas. You don’t assert people’s ignorance or arrogance before inquiry. This doesn’t help in finding the truth.

Krismas:
well then, permit me to introduce to u the face of the Australopithecus

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-face-of-the-earliest-human-ancestor-revealed/

DropsMic:
The white man’s religion has turned your brain to faeces.

Dtruthspeaker:
I did not assume anything. You represent one side which in my view is evil, while I represent the other side and have marshalled my points to that effect.

I don't know you and you are trying to sound fairly balanced unlike the atheists I deal with here, so I do not see your personality but I do see your position, which is what I addressed.

And I am not trying to condemn anyone but I am here to put clearly facts and Law which people daily uphold in their lives. But when it comes to God, they suddenly forget and start trying to raise an unknown and untested standard which they don't keep.

So, if you have a reasonable counter to my response, I would review it, think on it and if indeed it is valid, I would thank you for the correction and the enlightenment and if an apology is needed, it would be given.

But everyone has got to validly prove their cases

jaephoenix:
You're buttressing the same exact fact I'm stating. Another Christian would come and say the direct opposite and claim u r wrong, yet u r reading the same Bible.
Tell me, didn't yhwh foresee all the confusion in Christianity? He could have written a book that is easily understood and devoid of lies, misinterpretations, miseducation, confusion etc but no, he wrote one of the most bleeped up books

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the one speaking the white man's Language.

Biggeststar01:
And why are you showing me evidence of Australopithecus? I said to show me evidence of the first human. The australopithecines were definitely the early human-like hominids according to scientific evidence. But I’m asking for the evidence of the first human being, the first member of the Homo sapiens.

kay29000:
Exactly. That his/her friend was just angry with "God." The way I describe being an atheist to people is by using the example of the movie, Wizard of Oz. Dorothy, the tin man, the scarecrow, and the lion believed there was a great wizard in Oz. So they traveled to see the wizard. While there, listening to the thunderous voice of the Wizard, Dorothy's little dog pulled the curtain, and it was revealed that the Wizard of Oz was just a man behind the curtain, using an instrument to appear grand to the people. Dorothy and her friend, after seeing this, could never go back to believing in the "great Wizard of Oz."

They went on a journey of enlightenment, and discovered the truth. This is how many real atheist discover the truth. In my own case, I decided to read the whole bible from front to back while bored (and nobless) after NYSC. I discovered so many inconsistencies, and decided to study other religions, and soiritualities. I embarked on my journey of enlightenment and discovered the truth. You don't become an atheist because you're angry with your sky daddy.

Merry100:
But God did not promise to always respond with a "Yes" whenever we call upon Him. As you read through the Bible, you will realize that God's responses can be "Yes," "No," or "Wait."

Biggeststar01:
Your view of atheists is an assumption. It is baseless as you cannot substantiate the claim that the atheists position is evil, while yours is moral.

I wrote this in my quiet time and i didn’t want to share it now but I think someone like you needs to read this.

“One thing society need to understand is that; God fearing does not equate to rectitude any more than godlessness equates to depravity. One can be God fearing and still be morally depraved. Likewise, one can be godless and morally upright.
In fact, it is statistically proven that the rate of self-declared atheists [godless individuals] in prisons and other correctional institutions is relatively minuscule [0.001% give or take] in juxtaposition with the rate of the God fearing. Further, countries and organizations that have high rates of godless folk (over 80 and 90% identifying as atheist) are by and large, relatively safer, less corrupt, and generally more prosperous than religiously predominated ones.
The prevailing religious outlook that portrays godless people as inherently flawed and unprincipled, having an incorrigible propensity for moral turpitude, while portraying God fearing individuals as morally superior, is baseless and anachronistic, I think Nigeria should serve as clear proof of that. As a person who lives in a largely religious society, the most nefarious, utterly sadistic and iniquitous set of people I know, are religious and “God fearing”.
Such stereotypes is what allows for illustrious individuals in religious hierarchical subsets to escape justice or even scrutiny apropos moral conduct, while godless folk are assumed to be evil by default because they fear no deity.
Speaking of fear, I opine that the practice of grounding your morality in the “fear of God” is insubstantial. That one’s moral compass is predicated on the idea of a god, doesn’t make one a good person. If the only reason you’re doing good deeds, is because you are afraid of what could happen to you if you do bad deeds, then you’re essentially a bad person who is being restrained from acting on your default. Basically a dog on a leash, and your morality is contingent.”

- Biggeststar

TenQ:
An atom is the smallest indivisible part of an element!

Krismas:
That's cos u question is not intelligent.
The first human would not look any different from what you would see when u look into a mirror.
Otherwise he won't be human

Chidolalar:
Can u share the truth u discovered while embarking on your own journey

Biggeststar01:
Your view of atheists is an assumption. It is baseless as you cannot substantiate the claim that the atheists position is evil, while yours is moral.

Biggeststar01:
I wrote this in my quiet time and i didn’t want to share it now but I think someone like you needs to read this.

“One thing society need to understand is that; God fearing does not equate to rectitude any more than godlessness equates to depravity. One can be God fearing and still be morally depraved. Likewise, one can be godless and morally upright.
In fact, it is statistically proven that the rate of self-declared atheists [godless individuals] in prisons and other correctional institutions is relatively minuscule [0.001% give or take] in juxtaposition with the rate of the God fearing. Further, countries and organizations that have high rates of godless folk (over 80 and 90% identifying as atheist) are by and large, relatively safer, less corrupt, and generally more prosperous than religiously predominated ones.
The prevailing religious outlook that portrays godless people as inherently flawed and unprincipled, having an incorrigible propensity for moral turpitude, while portraying God fearing individuals as morally superior, is baseless and anachronistic, I think Nigeria should serve as clear proof of that. As a person who lives in a largely religious society, the most nefarious, utterly sadistic and iniquitous set of people I know, are religious and “God fearing”.
Such stereotypes is what allows for illustrious individuals in religious hierarchical subsets to escape justice or even scrutiny apropos moral conduct, while godless folk are assumed to be evil by default because they fear no deity.

Biggeststar01:
Speaking of fear, I opine that the practice of grounding your morality in the “fear of God” is insubstantial. That one’s moral compass is predicated on the idea of a god, doesn’t make one a good person. If the only reason you’re doing good deeds, is because you are afraid of what could happen to you if you do bad deeds, then you’re essentially a bad person who is being restrained from acting on your default. Basically a dog on a leash, and your morality is contingent.”

- Biggeststar

DropsMic:
Now he is comparing language to spiritual beliefs. What a faeces brain . Even though the chances are slim, I sincerely hope you raise your children to be thinking Christians.

Biggeststar01:
Define human

Krismas:
Human?
That will be Homo Sapien.
Then, i like to submit two points.

1.The six stages in the process leading to Human, had their define timelines, from Ramapithicus to Australopithicus to Homo habilis to Homo erectus to Neanderthal Man to Cro-Magnon Man.

2. Human (Homo Sapien} has not evolved over the last 8000yrs

Biggeststar01:
lol. See your mouth. You think evolution is only physical?

Dtruthspeaker:

Experience is not an assumption. I have crossed swords with atheists too many times that I must come to a conclusion, exactly how you too have come to a conclusion on women. And there are too many threads/posts to prove that this is the same conclusion people have arrived at.

Your experience is not fact. Like I said, human experience is a terrible source of evidence. You engage in these kind of clashes because you start every conversation with invectives and slanderous submissions. I have no conclusions on women or any group of people for that matter.

https://www.nairaland.com/4618490/atheism-extreme-evil#69394396
https://www.nairaland.com/277656/atheism-greatest-all-evils-na#3943094

For me it's even worse that I had to raise my own thread on the evils of atheists.
https://www.nairaland.com/7389658/these-know-atheists-obviously-evil#117672034

So let's leave this issue. You have something to say on the issue at hand



Even from the way you have spoken and presented your facts you are different from the main atheists people meet here.

There is no such thing as “main atheists”, the fact that you’re not in good terms with the ones you meet here doesn’t say anything about the behavior of atheists.

And your points in bold are valid and True.

But as you yourself know and see from the threads many atheists may not be in prison but that doesn't mean that they are not evil people.

You also can’t prove that people need Jesus to be good.


And this is where the foolishness of foolish people are seen whether they go to church and claim to be Christians or not.

If you can see this part, it is clear that God too sees it and definitely He has done many many things to ensure that such kinds of people are weeded out and kept with others who clearly subscribe to doing the wrong and the evil.

The thing is, this is how almost every Christian thinks. They don’t want to do bad things because they are afraid god is watching them. And this is not morality, it’s fear.

So, in the righteousness and uprightness are standards beyond these

Krismas:
What makes u assume, i was referring to 'only physical'?

Merry100:
When I discovered she was reasoning with me, I proceeded to tell her that it was okay to be upset and frustrated, and that she could even vent her anger by misbehaving, acting like a prodigal child, and doing all sorts of things until she felt satisfied. But she should not claim there is no God when it is obvious to her that there is God. This is how I succeeded in reversing her decision.

Biggeststar01:
Your experience is not fact. Like I said, human experience is a terrible source of evidence. You engage in these kind of clashes because you start every conversation with invectives and slanderous submissions. I have no conclusions on women or any group of people for that matter.

Biggeststar01:
There is no such thing as “main atheists”, the fact that you’re not in good terms with the ones you meet here doesn’t say anything about the behavior of atheists.

Biggeststar01:
The thing is, this is how almost every Christian thinks. They don’t want to do bad things because they are afraid god is watching them. And this is not morality, it’s fear.

jaephoenix:
This example of a miracle is why I conclude many Christians have low IQ.
Luck is a thing. It happens to everyone, whether christian, Muslim, atheist, Buddhist, rapist, murderers, carpenters etc, whether they pray or not.
I always use my example of myself. I had a spinal issue that made me unable to walk for weeks. I didn't pray to any scammer. Just took drugs. Now I'm using my legs. If I had prayed once, that's how everyone would be telling me its god.
OP have you thought that despite the prayerful nature of Nigerian christians, the country is getting worse daily. So why is atheistic countries like China, New Zealand which have considerably less christians than Nigeria progressing while we languish in Nigeria despite praying at any chance?
Use your brain for once. Its not illegal

Biggeststar01:
Why do you make such claim?
What makes you think humans have not evolved over time? We don’t even have enough data on the theory of evolution. There are a lot of blank spots on the details, making any such claim is ludicrous. We still evolve. We evolved bigger brains overtime, there are vestigial structures in our body (like the palmaris longus, a tendon that around 10-15% of all human are missing on either one or both of their arms. You can find this vein by pushing your thumb against your pinky in an opposing manner. Another is the ability to move your ears, this physiological ability would’ve presumably been more useful to our nocturnal ancestors, but they are quite useless to us, hence only few people have the ability. Another is goosebumps. The list is endless.

Dtruthspeaker:
Have you read sources of evidence? No. If not you would have known that fact is confirmed by human experience.

Then the bold, see how you have put the blame on me when clearly, like even this thread shows, the slanders started with an atheist.



Have you seen an atheist in good terms with any Christian? Never.

Clear proof that atheists hate God and everyone who subscribes to Him and as you have just done, you people always attack them first like Hamas does.



And that is why many of them will fall under the Mark for an acts done under threats and duress are never acceptable. Even man fake laws called legal pronounce this Law which God had set. Which is why God's standard is higher.

Merry100:
The miracle I shared with my friend:

In 2022, I booked my flight ticket from the UK to Nigeria through an agent who was introduced to me. Although I preferred to book my flight online, I decided to patronize her. A day before my scheduled flight, she called me and informed me that my ticket had been cancelled.

I was so worked up because I had already made arrangements for the trip, and everyone knew I was leaving tomorrow; in fact, an Uber was already booked to take me to the airport. I had already spent money buying various things, so the news came to me as a painful shock. I went online to look for cheap tickets, but I couldn't find any. So, I just knelt down and prayed to God.

I told God that if this is the last thing He does for me, He should just do it. I didn't want to tell anyone about it because it might seem to them like I was stylishly asking for funds.

The deal day eventually came, and I had no ticket. I was sitting in the car heading toward the airport, scrolling through the website of the agency I preferred to book my flight from and refreshing the page from time to time.

About an hour before my arrival at the airport, I came across a very cheap ticket. With quick fingers, I booked it instantly. I don't know why the ticket was so cheap; it is possible there were available seats on the plane, so they decided to reduce the price, or someone called to cancel their ticket. But the important thing is that it was indeed a miracle for me.