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GothamCities:
This brings us to a better understanding of what Jesus said in Acts 1:7. Honestly, I have struggled to understand that verse until tonight.

When the disciples were asking the Lord Jesus about the timing of His second coming, He answered them in Acts 1:7 which states:

"It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power"

The right thing Jesus was supposed to say is "...the time and the seasons which only the Father knows." If He had said that, it would have put a question on His omniscience. But He said the Father puts that in His power. I actually didn't understand the putting in His power phrase until tonight after reading the response from my brother Nachmonides.

GothamCities:
Now, I understand that Jesus is speaking to His disciples here, telling them that it's not their responsibility to know the timing of the future event, - the restoration of the kingdom to Israel which happens only during the second coming. He emphasized that God the Father has reserved the right to determine the timing of the event, and it's not for humans to know or speculate about the exact timing.

This further proves that it's not a matter of Christ not being all knowing but a matter of understanding the individual roles in the Trinity.

DaddyCoool.

It's a matter of your rejection of Matthew 24:36 &

sticking to your delusion invented at Nicene.


John 8:28, Acts 1:7, why would Jesus be taught that God his Father solely possess the Authority to decide the times and seasons?

. Acts 1:7
aexousiauthority; ἐξουσίᾳ
() 1849: power to act, authority

John 8:24,28 , John 14:28 & Matthew 24:36
Jesus Christ DO NOT have the power /Authority of the God Almighty greater than Jesus.

gohf:
John.3.34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.

1. So God gave God to God without measure? 😏

And when God was his second person he died and gave himself back to his first person God so that his third person can come.

2. So God changed Himself to three forms or He was always three forms. If He was always three forms so then why did He say only He is God? Why is God not differentiated anywhere in scripture as God the Father, God the Spirit why did He only reveal Himself has One God and even gave commandments in line with thay revelation?

Nachmonides:
There's no more than 1 being in the concept of the Trinity.

It's just 1 being.

For example, your being is human, my being is also human, but we are different persons.

We share the same essence, which is humanity. However we are distinct persons with unique identities and characteristics. You are not me, I am not you, but we are both human.

Janosky:
We are all human beings.

Being has plural.

Jehovah God is a spirit, the Supreme Being.
Jesus his son is another being,a spirit.
Distinct entities.

You guys should stop LYING to yourselves.

Nachmonides:
You are unwise and unintelligent.

The term "beings" in this context simply refers to individuals who share the same nature or essence (humanity). It doesn't imply that we are separate or entirely different in substance.


"Beings" in the phrase "human beings" refers to [b]individuals with the same essence of humanity,[/b] not different essences or completely separate beings.

Janosky:
According to Nachmonides the term "beings" are Individuals sharing the same essence.

Does Satan a spirit share the same essence with other spirit beings?


Who will help this confused Nachmonides?

MaxInDHouse:
Why sending prophets to warn idolaters in ancient Israel if Jehovah is different today?

Janosky:
Jehovah God did NOT allow that.
Deuteronomy 6:13 & Matthew 4:10 is proof.
That is my point.

Trinitarians choose to ADD another being to worship alongside Jehovah, just realize that they have broken Jehovah's instructions of Matthew 4:10.

DaddyCoool:
You JW's really ought apply some COMMON SENSE!!
Jehovah raised Jesus that was already dead. Don't you think he knew he'd be worshipped as God??
Different if we were in 1st century. But this is over 2000 years later and those churches have only gotten stronger. Jehovah that was extremely touchy about such things!
Please stop insulting Him. If he never intended that Christ be worshipped as God, he never would have been!

gohf:
John.3.34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.

1. So God gave God to God without measure? 😏

And when God was his second person he died and gave himself back to his first person God so that his third person can come.

2. So God changed Himself to three forms or He was always three forms. If He was always three forms so then why did He say only He is God? Why is God not differentiated anywhere in scripture as God the Father, God the Spirit why did He only reveal Himself has One God and even gave commandments in line with thay revelation?

gohf:
have you ever communicated with your soul before?

gohf:
you debunked your head, because it's your imagination you're responding to

This is what I wrote in passing among the words "So is the devil also god or he didn't come from ancient times?"


What does God having no beginning have to do with Jesus you claim is God because you only accept the interpretation of that verse has Jesus came from everlasting.

Wait you would have said God Almighty Creator of the heavens and earth came from everlasting, you will now explain to us what everlasting is that God came from.

God is from everlasting to everlasting, He is the beginning and the end.

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o!

Please if i may ask:

Truthseeker10
Steep
DaddyCool
Nachmonides
Gothamcities

Do you all agree on TRINITY?
If so why all these arguments?

DaddyCoool:
But nowhere does it say it. God is God because He is eternal and everything is from Him. His Godship is NOT dependent on his knowing everything every moment or his knowing time of second coming!

LordReed:
LoLz. The storybook proves the storybook is true.

GothamCities:
Because the knowledge of God is infinite. You cannot completely know God. You can only know the little He has revealed to you about Himself.

Nachmonides:
The thing is, it's not even about what God has revealed or not, it's us, humans.
We could never fully comprehend in our humanity, our current framework is limited.

Even if God were to reveal something new, we would still not be able to comprehend in our humanity. Our purview is limited; if truly God is God; infinite.
A finite creature/creation could never fully grasp his revelation.

DaddyCoool:
You JW's really ought apply some COMMON SENSE!!

DaddyCoool:
Jehovah raised Jesus that was already dead. Don't you think he knew he'd be worshipped as God??

DaddyCoool:
Different if we were in 1st century. But this is over 2000 years later and those churches have only gotten stronger. Jehovah that was extremely touchy about such things!

DaddyCoool:
Please stop insulting Him. If he never intended that Christ be worshipped as God, he never would have been!

Nachmonides:
Scriptures say God has revealed all of himself in Christ.


The question is, can you fully grasp him?

Nachmonides:
We can only ever see and understand the infinite through our finite lens.

GothamCities:
Because the knowledge of God is infinite. You cannot completely know God. You can only know the little He has revealed to you about Himself.

MaxInDHouse:
Satan has been worshiped for thousands of years nah {Luke 4:5-7; 2Corinthians 4:4} so are you saying Jehovah intended it!

You no want Madam to worship dem 3 deities with her imperfect common sense?

Na WA you ooo

Janosky:
Which one of your 3 deities is "Himself" /"He"?

Nachmonides:
The thing is, it's not even about what God has revealed or not, it's us, humans.
We could never fully comprehend in our humanity, our current framework is limited.

Even if God were to reveal something new, we would still not be able to comprehend in our humanity. Our purview is limited; if truly God is God; infinite.
A finite creature/creation could never fully grasp his revelation.

GothamCities:
Because the knowledge of God is infinite. You cannot completely know God. You can only know the little He has revealed to you about Himself.

Janosky:
You no want Madam to worship dem 3 deities with her imperfect common sense? Na WA you ooo .

MaxInDHouse:
Satan has been worshiped for thousands of years nah {Luke 4:5-7; 2Corinthians 4:4} so are you saying Jehovah intended it!

DaddyCoool:
Oga here's what you're told to do:
School us.
Mention one instance in OT where Jehovah allowed anybody to be worshiped together with him or as him even for a month.
Never mind that he himself also raised this person from dead!

GothamCities:
I weep for you. No need to tell you anything. Just keep wallowing in your delusions.

gohf:
sir steep where is your response to this o 😊

Nachmonides:
Scriptures say God has revealed all of himself in Christ.
The question is, can you fully grasp him?