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Nachmonides:
Indeed, God's word is clear. Farewell.

Whatever is clear will UNITE believers in doing what is fine not contradicting themselves.
So it's either the word is not clear or you people aren't humble to learn.

Pick one!

Nachmonides:
There's no more than 1 being in the concept of the Trinity.

It's just 1 being.

For example, your being is human, my being is also human, but we are different persons.

We share the same essence, which is humanity. However we are distinct persons with unique identities and characteristics. You are not me, I am not you, but we are both human.

Nachmonides are you still talking here without providing the programming codes for trinity?

Nachmonides:
You are unwise and unintelligent.

The term "beings" in this context simply refers to individuals who share the same nature or essence (humanity). It doesn't imply that we are separate or entirely different in substance.


"Beings" in the phrase "human beings" refers to individuals with the same essence of humanity, not different essences or completely separate beings.

Oga are you still here? Why are you teaching what you don't understand na?

GothamCities:
You're the one claiming what the Bible did not claim.

I do not believe your claim.

LoLz. You don't even know your own favourite story book

Revelation 22
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Hebrews 10
37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.

Bwahahahahahaha!

What is the importance or significance of oneness in faith?

Without oneness there can never be any achievement that will benefit all!

We were created in the image of God so it's not strange that some don't want to be submissive rather they just want to be teachers who aren't learning from anyone {1Corinthians 4:7} that's exactly what Satan initiated in the garden of Eden {Genesis 3:4-5} instead of obeying anyone Adam and Eve chose to be Gods telling others what to do when no one not even God can instruct them.

Jesus came to teach faithful people how to humble ourselves under God's arrangement so that we see other faithful ones superior to us! Philippians 2:3

With that we humbly listen to know what Jesus wants us to do as a group of believers since he promised to come into our midst only when we agree in twos or threes! Matthew 18:20

So God's holy Spirit will only work with humble people that's why an ancient prophet linked salvation to humility {Zephaniah 2:2-3} and Jesus confirmed that humble ones will inherit the earth {Matthew 5:5} because it's humble people that will understand that Jesus will have corulers {Luke 12:32} who will be with him in another place {John 14:6} but arrogant people will never humble themselves to accept such! Matthew 23:12

Don't be surprised that some members of Jehovah's Witnesses are also turning against the arrangement {John 6:66} but ask them to tell you which church they are attending presently that's when you will know the root cause of their problem:
Lack of humility!

GothamCities:
You don't event understand the scriptures!

Why did Paul say "That I may know Him..." Is it because the veil is still in tact?

and the power of his resurrection, you that understands scripture who is Paul referring to?

gohf:
Well you said one instance though this may not count as worshipped for one month but certainly isn't being worshipped as a god

1Chr.29.20 Then David said to all the assembly, "Now bless the LORD your God." So all the assembly blessed the LORD God of their fathers, and bowed their heads and prostrated themselves before the LORD and the king.

MaxInDHouse:
There are thousands of Gods worshiped in ancient times Israel was a small nation compared to mighty nations who are worshiping Gods like Ra, Zeus, Jupiter and many more.
So Jehovah only faced a small nation called Israel while bigger and stronger nations are worshiping Gods of their choice and Jehovah never conquered them rather He allowed them to continue their religion.

This so called Jesus people think they're worshiping today is a demon that's why the real Jesus said he will confess to the worshipers of false Jesus that he never knew them! Matthew 7:21-23

You were told to mention ONE instance where someone was worshipped the way Christ is being worshipped (together with, and interchangeable with Jehovah) and it lasted a week.

Never mind that this has lasted 2000+ years, that Jehovah has prospered the worshippers and increased their numbers through the Holy Ghost, AND that it couldn't have been man that raised him from the dead to be so worshipped!

Nachmonides:
Haha. I'll soon unfollow this thread because it's been the same old, nonsensical, unwise, sensual, devilish, responses I've been witnessing from you JWs.

Here's my conclusion: Do the study yourself, don't believe all I've said or anybody here has said, compile the odd evidences of Trinity in scripture yourself, consult the original Hebrew and Greek depending on the book you're studying in time. Come to a conclusion for yourself based on the God-given senses you have. God actually expects we utilise our senses in reading and studying scriptures; scripture say we should "Study...", and studying is brain work, but not just that, like the Apostle Paul says, pray for the "eyes" of your understanding to be enlightened, so that you may know.


13/01/'25
20:56
- N, your brother in Christ.

you can't just make a claim lie about it, make those who ever believed in your nonsense wait for you then run away like I already said you would do.

But then I guess it's you so I shouldn't be surprised by now by this

Bye-bye

gohf:
don't worry when the false Christ who claims to be God comes accept him oh, because God made the likes of you delusional seeing as you have rejected the truth

The False Christ would be around for 7 years NOT 2000+, and much of it would be tribulations!

MaxInDHouse:
The Greek word translated WORSHIP in your Bible is OBEISANCE meaning REVERENCE.
Forgiveness that Jesus talked about does not mean he is God rather it means God has given him the authority to judge the world so Jesus can declare someone free from guilt after assessing the person.


The people worshiping your Jesus are fighting and killing themselves because they are God's enemies! Revelations 6:3-4
They are the same people claiming Christians in countries like Russia and Ukraine!

So this worship is now different from worship in Mathew!
Can't you folks just see that historical EVIDENCE has shown that Jehovah APPROVES of worship of Jesus as God.
Remember, this is someone that was dead and buried.
Can't you see that human being couldn't have done it?

MaxInDHouse:
Present just one example here just as you have seen JWs agreeing let's see if you are truthful to your own soul or trying to deceive yourself.

Apart from Jehovah's Witnesses no other religion can have two as in just two members that will agree on what Jesus commanded instead they will continue to argue, insult, abuse, curse and even kill one another over right and wrong in faith.

I'm beating my chest on that!

Here's the true challenge: let's see you question a single teaching of JW!
You're beating your chest on being turned into a robot by a cult you dare not question!
Even the apostles disagreed and Paul praised the Bereans for questioning his teachings

gohf:
and the power of his resurrection, you that understands scripture who is Paul referring to?

Angel Michael?

Lol!

LordReed:
LoLz. You don't even know your own favourite story book

Revelation 22
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Hebrews 10
37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.

Bwahahahahahaha!

I don't know why ignorant people have the audacity to laugh and make a mockery of themselves. You don't actually know anything, and I'm not the type that would be arguing with you about these things.

2 Thessalonians 2:2-3 and continuing through verse 3:

2 Thessalonians 2:2-3

2. "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"

The 'Soon Coming' of Christ in scriptures is not literal soon coming but a command for us to be alert and live our lives as though He'll come today because we do not know exactly when He'll appear.

2,000 years is not a lengthy time before God. Time is not spent in heaven. There, there's no past or future. Everything happens in the Now. You can't understand. So, just go and sit down , and if you wish you can keep spreading your folly. I don't have your time.

MaxInDHouse:
Present just one example here just as you have seen JWs agreeing let's see if you are truthful to your own soul or trying to deceive yourself.

Apart from Jehovah's Witnesses no other religion can have two as in just two members that will agree on what Jesus commanded instead they will continue to argue, insult, abuse, curse and even kill one another over right and wrong in faith.

I'm beating my chest on that!

The Anglicans agree among themselves, so also are the Baptists. The Adventists agree among themselves, so also do the Mormons. The Pentecostals agree among themselves as well as the Catholics.

Citing agreement among your heretic group on the same spoonfed demonic doctrines is not a virtue. Even witches agree among themselves.

DaddyCoool:
You were told to mention ONE instance where someone was worshipped the way Christ is being worshipped (together with, and interchangeable with Jehovah) and it lasted a week.
Never mind that this has lasted 2000+ years, that Jehovah has prospered the worshippers and increased their numbers through the Holy Ghost, AND that it couldn't have been man that raised him from the dead to be so worshipped!

Jehovah has never gathered people to fight and kill one another so think over it again!

DaddyCoool:
So this worship is now different from worship in Mathew!
Can't you folks just see that historical EVIDENCE has shown that Jehovah APPROVES of worship of Jesus as God.
Remember, this is someone that was dead and buried.
Can't you see that human being couldn't have done it?

Surely that's beyond human knowledge Jesus said Satan is the father of falsehood {John 8:44} and falsehood makes people hate and kill one another as you people often does in the face of POLITICS and RACISM. Revelations 6:3-4
So that's not Jehovah but Satan the God of this system of things! 2Corinthians 4:4

GothamCities:
The Anglicans agree among themselves, so also are the Baptists. The Adventists agree among themselves, so also do the Mormons. The Pentecostals agree among themselves as well as the Catholics. Citing agreement among your heretic group on the same spoonfed demonic doctrines is not a virtue. Even witches agree among themselves.

Now it's obvious you don't know what agreement means!

This is what agreement means:
People from different countries and races will AGREE on the same standard for settling and resolving issues so when any matter arises they will use what they agreed upon to resolve the matter PEACEFULLY among themselves! Isaiah 2:2-4

Do you think these churches are doing that?
If they do please why are they still fighting and killing their fellow worshipers in WARS? Revelations 6:3-4

GothamCities:
I don't know why ignorant people have the audacity to laugh and make a mockery of themselves. You don't actually know anything, and I'm not the type that would be arguing with you about these things.

2 Thessalonians 2:2-3 and continuing through verse 3:

2 Thessalonians 2:2-3

2. "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"

The 'Soon Coming' of Christ in scriptures is not literal soon coming but a command for us to be alert and live our lives as though He'll come today because we do not know exactly when He'll appear.

2,000 years is not a lengthy time before God. Time is not spent in heaven. There, there's no past or future. Everything happens in the Now. You can't understand. So, just go and sit down , and if you wish you can keep spreading your folly. I don't have your time.

LoLz. It's always fun to see how dumdums interpret their favourite storybook to negate what it clearly says.

Dumdum you wanted to scare me with time with tell but suddenly time no longer matters. Bwahahahahahaha!

GothamCities:
Angel Michael?

Lol!

so you have a veil because of angel michael

LordReed:
LoLz. It's always fun to see how dumdums interpret their favourite storybook to negate what it clearly says.

Dumdum you wanted to scare me with time with tell but suddenly time no longer matters. Bwahahahahahaha!

I told you I don't have your time.

It's very demeaning for me to be arguing with you about the existence of God with whom I have a close relationship.

If you don't believe that there's God, it's your cup of tea. Those atheists who have died now know better. I am 10000% sure of that. So, enjoy your folly while it lasts.

MaxInDHouse:
Now it's obvious you don't know what agreement means!

This is what agreement means:
People from different countries and races will AGREE on the same standard for settling and resolving issues so when any matter arises they will use what they agreed upon to resolve the matter PEACEFULLY among themselves! Isaiah 2:2-4

Do you think these churches are doing that?
If they do please why are they still fighting and killing their fellow worshipers in WARS? Revelations 6:3-4

Yes, that's how denominations are also in agreement. The ex JWs are actually no longer in agreement with JWs. But an ex Anglican, ex Baptist, etc can continue to be in agreement with its former denomination. That doesn't happen in your cult.

Your exes are everywhere regretting their past associations with you.

GothamCities:
I told you I don't have your time.
It's very demeaning for me to be arguing with you about the existence of God with whom I have a close relationship.
If you don't believe that there's God, it's your cup of tea. Those atheists who have died now know better. I am 10000% sure of that. So, enjoy your folly while it lasts.

The highlighted is unscriptural!

For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Ecclesiastes 9:5

This is why we keep telling you people that you are not believers in God because you teach man's philosophy not God's word! Matthew 15:7-9

GothamCities:
Yes, that's how denominations are also in agreement. The ex JWs are actually no longer in agreement with JWs. But an ex Anglican, ex Baptist, etc can continue to be in agreement with its former denomination. That doesn't happen in your cult.
Your exes are everywhere regretting their past associations with you.

A former member of a set of beliefs is still in agreement with those in that religion!

Guy please try to think deeply about what you typed because it's impossible that simply means they are deceiving themselves when Jesus' disciples turned back from following him they never had anything to do with him again! John 6:66

WHY?

Because those who are not with him can never ever agree with those who believe him as their teacher.

I don't know you but i'm sure you have working brains to process this because it's not difficult in any way!

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is unscriptural!

For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Ecclesiastes 9:5

This is why we keep telling you people that you are not believers in God because you teach man's philosophy not God's word! Matthew 15:7-9

You even know better than Jesus who said there'll be weeping and gnashing of teeth in hell. According to you, the story of Lazarus and the rich man is fake because Lazarus and the rich man couldn't have had any means of communing with Abraham after death. You also seem to imply that the souls under the altar which the Bible describes as the souls of those who were martyred for Jesus,who were crying and saying "How long oh God will you avenge our blood from the people of the earth?" Is also false according to your demonic doctrines.

Kudos to you!

MaxInDHouse:
A former member of a set of beliefs is still in agreement with those in that religion!

Guy please try to think deeply about what you typed because it's impossible that simply means they are deceiving themselves when Jesus' disciples turned back from following him they never had anything to do with him again! John 6:66

WHY?

Because those who are not with him can never ever agree with those who believe him as their teacher.

I don't know you but i'm sure you have working brains to process this because it's not difficult in any way!

I'm talking reality!

Someone may stop being an Anglican and still maintain Anglican doctrines. I have a retired police officer who left the Catholic church but still argues with me about the divinity of Mary, even though he now attends a Pentecostal church.

Come on! You're not in any agreement close to other church denominations. Stop using your forced agreement as a benchmark of your anti-Christ unity.

GothamCities:
You even know better than Jesus who said there'll be weeping and gnashing of teeth in hell. According to you, the story of Lazarus and the rich man is fake because Lazarus and the rich man couldn't have had any means of communing with Abraham after death. You also seem to imply that the souls under the altar which the Bible describes as the souls of those who were martyred for Jesus,who were crying and saying "How long oh God will you avenge our blood from the people of the earth?" Is also false according to your demonic doctrines.

Kudos to you!

Jesus taught many things in PARABLES {Matthew 13:13; 34} so if you're not humble you will keep confusing yourself thinking illustrations are real stories.

For your information Jesus' use of parables doesn't nullify what has been written before him that the dead are unconscious! Ecclesiastes 9:5; Matthew 5:17

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus taught many things in PARABLES {Matthew 13:13; 34} so if you're not humble you will keep confusing yourself thinking illustrations are real stories.

For your information Jesus' use of parables doesn't nullify what has been written before him that the dead are unconscious! Ecclesiastes 9:5; Matthew 5:17

Illustrations are not real stories but good and honest illustrations draw their inspirations from indisputable realities. All of Jesus's parables have a real life parallel.

Are the souls under the altar also parables!

GothamCities:
I told you I don't have your time.

It's very demeaning for me to be arguing with you about the existence of God with whom I have a close relationship.

If you don't believe that there's God, it's your cup of tea. Those atheists who have died now know better. I am 10000% sure of that. So, enjoy your folly while it lasts.

LoLz. For someone who doesn't want engage you sure do enjoy responding. FYI I haven't even mentioned the existence of a god once in our conversation but your inferiority complex couldn't help but be pricked. Bwahahahahaha!

GothamCities:
I'm talking reality!

Someone may stop being an Anglican and still maintain Anglican doctrines. I have a retired police officer who left the Catholic church but still argues with me about the divinity of Mary, even though he now attends a Pentecostal church.

Come on! You're not in any agreement close to other church denominations. Stop using your forced agreement as a benchmark of your anti-Christ unity.

The real AntiChrist is religions claiming they believe in something but aren't PRACTICING what they claim to believe.

So if someone is arguing over something but not practicing what he is saying how do you call that TRUTH?

Jesus is the truth so if you're not in agreement with something yet arguing in support of that thing it simply means you're a worker of LAWLESSNESS! Matthew 7:23

GothamCities:
Illustrations are not real stories but good and honest illustrations draw their inspirations from indisputable realities. All of Jesus's parables have a real life parallel.
Are the souls under the altar also parables!

Please what is a soul?

MaxInDHouse:
Please what is a soul?

Keep asking.

Are the souls under the altar also a parable?

MaxInDHouse:
The real AntiChrist is religions claiming they believe in something but aren't PRACTICING what they claim to believe.

So if someone is arguing over something but not practicing what he is saying how do you call that TRUTH?

Jesus is the truth so if you're not in agreement with something yet arguing in support of that thing it simply means you're a worker of LAWLESSNESS! Matthew 7:23

We practice what we believe okay?