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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:16am On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
Thank you,some go just dey talk as if coaching is easy for black man
That is one of the reasons I am supporting Vincent Kompany. I believe him succeeding can open ways for more black coaches to get trust.

For instance, just checking, a whole Kolo Toure is assistant coach for Manchester City U16s. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

As in, a whole Kolo Toure, captain of Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal. grin grin grin grin

Miami fashie this thing. cheesy cheesy cheesy

Laugh is choking me.

Kolo Toure has a UEFA Pro License and UEFA Executive Masters and is doing assitant work in academy. Someone that was coaching in Celtic, Leicester City, Wigan.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:18am On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
Thank you,some go just dey talk as if coaching is easy for black man
Our African coaches in Europe, especially the high grade ones should come back home and open academies. Use their knowledge to raise stars that they will push to Europe. The marginalization over there is just crazy.

I hope Kolo Toure finds a way to succeed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:19am On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
No. Amunike's own was the worst. Just think of it. It was allowance given by FIFA for the players as they arrived for the World Cup that Amunike's coaching crew were able to shop for winter coats and basic kits.

U17 World Cup.

Those players never got allowances from their time in camp, to the World Cup. Some of them were in the U20 team and they never got allowances too.

Like totally abandoned.

The frightening part was they were going to represent us in the U17 World Cup and little to no welfare.

Keshi, Siasia were bad but their players never had to wear slippers to travel for a top competition.
I remember Siasia team travelled a day to Olympic match...fares paid by Mikel Obi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:21am On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
I remember Siasia team travelled a day to Olympic match...fares paid by Mikel Obi.

But, not buying kits.

Mikel Obi started sponsoring the team after they got to America. Siasia was supporting the team with money he raised until his credit card got stolen. (I suspect it was an inside job to frustrate him)

So I know he was frustrated but not on the level of Amunike. Amunike was abandoned. It was Fifa allowances he used to get winter coats. That says it all.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:23am On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
Who told you that ex internationals are lazy or do you think it's easy for black men in coaching world.....
Sorry not to make an exception because they're some like Seyi that developed himself and now working with Chelsea FC

The question how many of them have obtained the required license to make them relevant and at least push for this jobs?

Mikel that is a former Chelsea legend is busy doing podcast Seyi that never played for Chelsea got a job there before Mikel. That's because he developed himself.

The last time a Nigeria was coaching the US under 20 team, that applied for the super eagles job
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 11:23am On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
That is one of the reasons I am supporting Vincent Kompany. I believe him succeeding can open ways for more black coaches to get trust.

For instance, just checking, a whole Kolo Toure is assistant coach for Manchester City U16s. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

As in, a whole Kolo Toure, captain of Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal. grin grin grin grin

Miami fashie this thing. cheesy cheesy cheesy

Laugh is choking me.

Kolo Toure has a UEFA Pro License and UEFA Executive Masters and is doing assitant work in academy. Someone that was coaching in Celtic, Leicester City, Wigan.
Are you surprised? That’s how the global world works na. Some folks will say black folks have victim mentality when they are actually ignorant of the world they live in. They will be shouting meritocracy up and down when in truth the world never and will never operates on meritocracy. Just wait when president Trump tenure begins and we see the total eradication of DEI in the western world then folks will understand better. phew
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:25am On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
Chelle has not seen sabotage like Amunike. Amunike has dealt with sabotage working for the national teams, including the AYC above. So bringing that shows you are devoid of the point. If Mali did not give Chelle the chance, would he take Mali to the so called level you are talking.

Unfortunately, in our case, the NFF prefers sabotaging Amunike than give him a chance.

Lastly, I hope Amunike does not go near the NFF or National team again. It is clear they will keep working against him.

Finito.
One of the hallmark of failures is excuses and always looking for someone to blame

Somebody will always be blamed for Amunike incompetence. The others that achieved success in those roles before him were not sabotaged but when it was his time, the nff, the presidency, players all make it a point of call to sabotage him

Ohh poor dude, he is the most sabotaged coach in west africa currently
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:28am On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
Our African coaches in Europe, especially the high grade ones should come back home and open academies. Use their knowledge to raise stars that they will push to Europe. The marginalization over there is just crazy.

I hope Kolo Toure finds a way to succeed.
Kolo once got a top job with Wigan but he malperformed that was about 2 seasons ago .
He couldn't deliver on the job, the loosing streak continued and that was how he lost the job .
I agree with the chances are slim but they come once in a while and it is something that should be grabbed with both hands
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 11:39am On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
Uche goofed during Afcon by questioning Keshi tactics...Keshi gave Martins the opportunity against Kenya and his performance was damn too poor.....compared Martins and Ameobi performance against Kenya and Italy?
That's exactly our problem every world cup year we have this one player that shines in one friendly and base on that we feel he's better than the ones we had. Ogbeche, Idowu, uchebo, Amoebi comes to mind. I recall he only picked Osaze last minute due to cry from fans.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:40am On Jan 15, 2025
humility33:
Kolo once got a top job with Wigan but he malperformed that was about 2 seasons ago .
He couldn't deliver on the job, the loosing streak continued and that was how he lost the job .
I agree with the chances are slim but they come once in a while and it is something that should be grabbed with both hands
Totally agree with you. That is why Kompany getting relegated really stung me. Glad he got another chance to redeem himself.

There are many factors and one stint is not enough for a coach. Look at Graham Potter at Chelsea. Despite his remarkable history in the past, he still had a poor stint at Chelsea. Look at Ten Hag at Ajax, and his time at Manchester United.

So a poor run can't define a coach. If Kolo Toure with his achievement was a white European, he would be on a higher level. Look at the likes of Lampard, Gerard, Rooney. Fabregas, Xabi Alonso, they have high grade jobs and a bad stint won't mar their images.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:41am On Jan 15, 2025
zicky:
That's exactly our problem every world cup year we have this one player that shines in one friendly and base on that we feel he's better than the ones we had. Ogbeche, Idowu, uchebo, Amoebi comes to mind. I recall he only picked Osaze last minute due to cry from fans.
Then Osaze went to the field and refused to play Keshi's tactics, doing what he likes. Leave those guys had strong heads and lacked respect.

Fans cry for them but don't know the headaches they were causing Keshi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 11:41am On Jan 15, 2025
Odunayaw:
Sack? Peseiro was sacked?

Smh
His contract was not renewed. He was given a target of semifinal, but he surpass the target.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:43am On Jan 15, 2025
humility33:
One of the hallmark of failures is excuses and always looking for someone to blame

Somebody will always be blamed for Amunike incompetence. The others that achieved success in those roles before him were not sabotaged but when it was his time, the nff, the presidency, players all make it a point of call to sabotage him

Ohh poor dude, he is the most sabotaged coach in west africa currently
Amunike did not make excuses when he was dealing with his series of challenges with the NFF. He motivated his boys and they won the U17 World Cup in a beautiful way. I guess you must be talking about another person.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 11:43am On Jan 15, 2025
Odunayaw:
The example was a poor one.

Na you go do that assignment o. And you can also fight fans on all social media who don't want to see AE or EA near the team because of that fated WCQ
which Fans, no be me and you make up the fans abi e get where them gather get meeting.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 11:48am On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
fraudulent Nigerian?
Bro it was fraudulent ike Uche was one of our highest goal scorer during the qualifiers and also doing very well for his club, Osaze, Taiwo were all doing well but he took Amoebi, uchebo, babatunde, nwafor and that guy that replaced onazi against France. None made any progress after that World Cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 11:49am On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
Totally agree with you. That is why Kompany getting relegated really stung me. Glad he got another chance to redeem himself.

There are many factors and one stint is not enough for a coach. Look at Graham Potter at Chelsea. Despite his remarkable history in the past, he still had a poor stint at Chelsea. Look at Ten Hag at Ajax, and his time at Manchester United.

So a poor run can't define a coach. If Kolo Toure with his achievement was a white European, he would be on a higher level. Look at the likes of Lampard, Gerard, Rooney. Fabregas, Xabi Alonso, they have high grade jobs and a bad stint won't mar their images.
Very true!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:49am On Jan 15, 2025
humility33:
Sorry not to make an exception because they're some like Seyi that developed himself and now working with Chelsea FC

The question how many of them have obtained the required license to make them relevant and at least push for this jobs?

Mikel that is a former Chelsea legend is busy doing podcast Seyi that never played for Chelsea got a job there before Mikel. That's because he developed himself.

The last time a Nigeria was coaching the US under 20 team, that applied for the super eagles job
Seyi Olofinjana is my close friend,not just a friend but my real guy.....so I can tell you much about him.

In life we have different aspirations so you can't force Mikel to follow Seyi path....

Mind you we have ex internationals who are doing well in sports management in Europe,Julius Akpala, Benjamin James and others but guess what it's not easy for them as black men cuz frustration set in when you keep on managing youth teams.

Kompany is enjoying Guardiola recommendations till date.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 11:51am On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
Then Osaze went to the field and refused to play Keshi's tactics, doing what he likes. Leave those guys had strong heads and lacked respect.

Fans cry for them but don't know the headaches they were causing Keshi.
Same Osaze that got us the goal that qualify us for second round.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:52am On Jan 15, 2025
zicky:
His contract was not renewed. He was given a target of semifinal, but he surpass the target.
And non renewal was because they couldn't agree on salary. No?

So how does it relate to Amunike again?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:55am On Jan 15, 2025
zicky:
Bro it was fraudulent ike Uche was one of our highest goal scorer during the qualifiers and also doing very well for his club, Osaze, Taiwo were all doing well but he took Amoebi, uchebo, babatunde, nwafor and that guy that replaced onazi against France. None made any progress after that World Cup
Keshi was not,fact if am in Keshi shoe Uche will not make my team.....Uche frustrated Keshi during Afcon.He dropped him for bad influence, criticizing your coach and still want to be part of the team...I thought Osaze made the team..Echiejele replaced Taiwo perfectly.

At the end Keshi reached 2nd round of WC that Westerhoff reached,so nothing like fraud.

Westerhoff and Keshi remain the bests.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Tessyy1701: 11:58am On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:

cheesy grin cheesy grin

Amunike's sabotage is beyond what you just listed. If it is salary, I think it was after his U20 elimination he got paid for the U17 job.

I am talking of sabotaging a team to fail with no support. We are talking about the U17 world cup, the players going to cold a cold region without winter coats. No footwears and traveling with slippers. They were like a joke to the Brazilian team.

Thank God with all their discriminatory sabotage we still won the trophy. Even to welcome them, problem.

Salary and friendly matches. grin grin
I know you read about Nigerian athlete washing their track suit, You must have heard what Sia1 went through during His last stint as olympic gaffer. All these has nothing to do with ethnicity. If its by ethnicity EA wont even get the job in the first place. Or are you saying the NFF that gave EA the job is not the one in charge when he was "sabotaged"?

Like I said earlier.... TheVeryGoodJoe sir.. We can do better than this.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Tessyy1701: 11:59am On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
I thought Siasia faced worst treatment from NFF.Keshi was nearly sacked during Afcon
Maybe those two are Hausa and Yoruba reapectively
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:01pm On Jan 15, 2025
zicky:
Same Osaze that got us the goal that qualify us for second round.
Look Keshi have seen it all and told Osaze point-blank play my tactics or get out.....the same Osaze that criticized Lagerback for starting Chinedu Obaze ahead of him during 2010 WC,telling whole world that Siasia was not fit to handle Olympics team after the tournament......Osaze talked to much,hope you remember how he almost ruined Kanu marriage
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Tessyy1701: 12:02pm On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
Our African coaches in Europe, especially the high grade ones should come back home and open academies. Use their knowledge to raise stars that they will push to Europe. The marginalization over there is just crazy.

I hope Kolo Toure finds a way to succeed.
May EA suceed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:02pm On Jan 15, 2025
Tessyy1701:
Maybe those two are Hausa and Yoruba reapectively
Abeg Oga Tessyy,make we let it rest....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:06pm On Jan 15, 2025
zicky:
That's exactly our problem every world cup year we have this one player that shines in one friendly and base on that we feel he's better than the ones we had. Ogbeche, Idowu, uchebo, Amoebi comes to mind. I recall he only picked Osaze last minute due to cry from fans.
Rohr picked Idowu,Simmy Nwankwo right but he is not a fraud but Keshi na fraud
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BankyGee(m): 12:06pm On Jan 15, 2025
Samueltemi337:
You beat me to this one 😁
😂😂😂
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:09pm On Jan 15, 2025
Una dun dey raise stupid arguments over here. So, Amunike was denied for being Igbo? so why was Okechukwu Keshi hired? Why was Christian Chukwu hired? Even Ogochukwu Oliseh even though the efulefu does not know his identity? At age grade, Nduka Ugbade, Amunike, John Obuh.

Since Yemi Tela in 2007 and Onigbinde in 2002 can you name another Yoruba coach and why aren't any Yoruba crying over that? Okay, who are the Fulani coaches or Hausa coaches being hired in place of the almighty Amunike?

I wish this site is not archaic, aswear there are too many monikers to block for my mental health.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:13pm On Jan 15, 2025
ChrisKels:
Una dun dey raise stupid arguments over here. So, Amunike was denied for being Igbo? so why was Okechukwu Keshi hired? Why was Christian Chukwu hired? Even Ogochukwu Oliseh even though the efulefu does not know his identity? At age grade, Nduka Ugbade, Amunike, John Obuh.

Since Yemi Tela in 2007 and Onigbinde in 2002 can you name another Yoruba coach and why aren't any Yoruba crying over that? Okay, who are the Fulani coaches or Hausa coaches being hired in place of the almighty Amunike?

I wish this site is not archaic, aswear there are too many monikers to block for my mental health.
👍👍👍
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 12:14pm On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
Thank you,some go just dey talk as if coaching is easy for black man
Goke7:
Are you surprised? That’s how the global world works na. Some folks will say black folks have victim mentality when they are actually ignorant of the world they live in. They will be shouting meritocracy up and down when in truth the world never and will never operates on meritocracy. Just wait when president Trump tenure begins and we see the total eradication of DEI in the western world then folks will understand better. phew
there are thousands of black coaches coaching in African countries so yes coaching is easy for black men in West Africa, East Africa and Southern Africa I don't know about Northern Africa...

getting jobs that has nothing to do with medicine or tech or care jobs in Europe or U:S would be difficult because they have to consider their people first..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 12:16pm On Jan 15, 2025
ChrisKels:
Una dun dey raise stupid arguments over here. So, Amunike was denied for being Igbo? so why was Okechukwu Keshi hired? Why was Christian Chukwu hired? Even Ogochukwu Oliseh even though the efulefu does not know his identity? At age grade, Nduka Ugbade, Amunike, John Obuh.

Since Yemi Tela in 2007 and Onigbinde in 2002 can you name another Yoruba coach and why aren't any Yoruba crying over that? Okay, who are the Fulani coaches or Hausa coaches being hired in place of the almighty Amunike?

I wish this site is not archaic, aswear there are too many monikers to block for my mental health.
It’s even funny raising amunike’s credibilty for the post when a new coach has been appointed.we need to be discussing more on aw to win the two next games in march..it’s less Dan 2months
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:17pm On Jan 15, 2025
Egbon I still feel Keshi should have found a way to take Uche to the 2014 WC. After all this same troublesome Uche was recalled by Keshi for the AFCON 2015 qualifiers when Nigeria was in danger of missing out.

Kog45:
Keshi was not,fact if am in Keshi shoe Uche will not make my team.....Uche frustrated Keshi during Afcon.He dropped him for bad influence, criticizing your coach and still want to be part of the team...I thought Osaze made the team..Echiejele replaced Taiwo perfectly.

At the end Keshi reached 2nd round of WC that Westerhoff reached,so nothing like fraud.

Westerhoff and Keshi remain the bests.
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