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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 12:19pm On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
Our African coaches in Europe, especially the high grade ones should come back home and open academies. Use their knowledge to raise stars that they will push to Europe. The marginalization over there is just crazy.

I hope Kolo Toure finds a way to succeed.
E:urope have to put their people first, it is not marginalization for them to put their people first..

African coaches and players should come back home and open football clubs and academies... the African coaches are not as rich as the players so the coaches should not be the ones with the responsibility of building academies..

let African coaches and players and wealthy Africans work together and build academies and football clubs and use their knowledge to create jobs in the sports industry in African countries.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:20pm On Jan 15, 2025
elyte89:
It’s even funny raising amunike’s credibilty for the post when a new coach has been appointed.we need to be discussing more on aw to win the two next games in march..it’s less Dan 2months
Some people can really be fōōlish.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:21pm On Jan 15, 2025
chrisooblog:
Egbon I still feel Keshi should have found a way to take Uche to the 2014 WC. After all this same troublesome Uche was recalled by Keshi for the AFCON 2015 qualifiers when Nigeria was in danger of missing out.
It pains me to see Shola Ameobi being listed as an ex Nigerian international. One of the major reasons I wanted Keshi out then.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:24pm On Jan 15, 2025
chrisooblog:
Egbon I still feel Keshi should have found a way to take Uche to the 2014 WC. After all this same troublesome Uche was recalled by Keshi for the AFCON 2015 qualifiers when Nigeria was in danger of missing out.
Yes depending on individual discretions,working against me and still want to be part of my team.He was recalled after pleas.....Oga Chris things dey happen for camp o.....you no see Osimhen rants against Findi just cuz of unverified news
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:26pm On Jan 15, 2025
ChrisKels:
It pains me to see Shola Ameobi being listed as an ex Nigerian international. One of the major reasons I wanted Keshi out then.
Well rejecting Nigeria openly and still made the team not cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 12:30pm On Jan 15, 2025
DABIGATRAN:
We have won the U-17 world cup only 5 times since its inception. Amunike has 2: one as assistant coach, another as head coach.

Amunike took a rag-tag Tanzanian team through the AFCON qualifiers and secured the ticket.

Amunike played for top clubs like Sporting Lisbon and Barcelona.

Amunike scored decisive goals that won Nigeria international laurels.

Amunike has a top coaching license.

Stop the hate guys!!
we can credit amunike with 2 u17 wc but heaven forbid we mention our failed WCQ against Ghana as part of his records.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:03pm On Jan 15, 2025
codemaniacs:
E:urope have to put their people first, it is not marginalization for them to put their people first..

African coaches and players should come back home and open football clubs and academies... the African coaches are not as rich as the players so the coaches should not be the ones with the responsibility of building academies..

let African coaches and players and wealthy Africans work together and build academies and football clubs and use their knowledge to create jobs in the sports industry in African countries.
Sharp and precise. You have posted well and I fully agree with your concept. I hope with time we see more of our African stars focus on building our football industries with their experience. It must not be do big.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:05pm On Jan 15, 2025
Tessyy1701:
I know you read about Nigerian athlete washing their track suit, You must have heard what Sia1 went through during His last stint as olympic gaffer. All these has nothing to do with ethnicity. If its by ethnicity EA wont even get the job in the first place. Or are you saying the NFF that gave EA the job is not the one in charge when he was "sabotaged"?

Like I said earlier.... TheVeryGoodJoe sir.. We can do better than this.
This your do better eh! cheesy

I think I have elaborated on this enough. Trying not to sound repetitive. Nice input sha.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:05pm On Jan 15, 2025
zicky:
Same Osaze that got us the goal that qualify us for second round.
That does not change the fact that Osaze was playing against instructions of the coaching crew.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:14pm On Jan 15, 2025
ChrisKels:
Some people can really be fōōlish.
O! Boy, cold is holding me. Is it you that typed this? shocked shocked (I never experred it) cheesy

I don't think it is foolishness reflecting on past mistakes. It does not rub on Eric Chelle. I think most here, including me, are wholeheartedly backing him to win. I think I even gave Mali props during the AFCON and their loss was heartbreaking to me.

Eric Chelle succeeding will give most here joy. Doesn't mean they should tie down one or two grievances in their hearts.

Keep in mind, we are here to share and contradict opinions. Don't clamp down on people sharing their opinions with negative words. (Advise, not force)

cc: elyte89
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 1:26pm On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
O! Boy, cold is holding me. Is it you that typed this? shocked shocked (I never experred it) cheesy

I don't think it is foolishness reflecting on past mistakes. It does not rub on Eric Chelle. I think most here, including me, are wholeheartedly backing him to win. I think I even gave Mali props during the AFCON and their loss was heartbreaking to me.

Eric Chelle succeeding will give most here joy. Doesn't mean they should tie down one or two grievances in their hearts.

Keep in mind, we are here to share and contradict opinions. Don't clamp down on people sharing their opinions with negative words. (Advise, not force)

cc: elyte89
Oga no dey quote me out of context. The foolish take I was referring to is "Amunike was sidelined for being Igbo". I'm Igbo myself, and I will reiterate, that was a very foolish take.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:27pm On Jan 15, 2025
ChrisKels:
Una dun dey raise stupid arguments over here. So, Amunike was denied for being Igbo? so why was Okechukwu Keshi hired? Why was Christian Chukwu hired? Even Ogochukwu Oliseh even though the efulefu does not know his identity? At age grade, Nduka Ugbade, Amunike, John Obuh.

Since Yemi Tela in 2007 and Onigbinde in 2002 can you name another Yoruba coach and why aren't any Yoruba crying over that? Okay, who are the Fulani coaches or Hausa coaches being hired in place of the almighty Amunike?

I wish this site is not archaic, aswear there are too many monikers to block for my mental health.
Let me still rephrase myself again.

At this point in our history with the NFF, I believe we are with a ring of people that are not patriotic or detribalized in their judgment.

I believe, Amunike's ethnicity played a part in so many rejections from the NFF chamber.

I also used his open sabotages he dealt as the reason to back my belief. It was too harsh and consistent. Giving Finidi the job over him was still the continuous sabotage he has dealt with when it concerns the NFF.

To chip in, Oliseh didn't understand the challenges Keshi was dealing with and thought it was all smooth. When he got in and saw how bad things were, he had to scream out and leave. Keep in mind, Oliseh was also sabotaged. His CHAN team was a crazy one. Oliseh was spending thousands of dollars of his personal money to feed the team. Peterside Idah said he flew to South Africa, paid the CHAN team a visit in camp and Oliseh begged him for money to feed the players.

However, Amunike's own was long and severe. I believe some bad eggs in the NFF are tribalistic.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:28pm On Jan 15, 2025
ChrisKels:
Oga no dey quote me out of context. The foolish take I was referring to is "Amunike was sidelined for being Igbo". I'm Igbo myself, and I will reiterate, that was a very foolish take.
Reread what you quoted and your reply.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 1:39pm On Jan 15, 2025
codemaniacs:


E:urope have to put their people first, it is not marginalization for them to put their people first..


African coaches and players should come back home and open football clubs and academies... the African coaches are not as rich as the players so the coaches should not be the ones with the responsibility of building academies..

let African coaches and players and wealthy Africans work together and build academies and football clubs and use their knowledge to create jobs in the sports industry in African countries.
Agreed, but let no one continue to fool us with the meritocracy bullshit
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 1:43pm On Jan 15, 2025
Goke7:
Agreed, but let no one continue to fool us with the meritocracy bullshit
meritocracy bs is a way of filtering out black applicants..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 1:46pm On Jan 15, 2025
codemaniacs:
there are thousands of black coaches coaching in African countries so yes coaching is easy for black men in West Africa, East Africa and Southern Africa I don't know about Northern Africa...

getting jobs that has nothing to do with medicine or tech or care jobs in Europe or U:S would be difficult because they have to consider their people first..
that's subjective as many blacks now carry European or other Western nations' passports or were even born there so you referring to considering their people first surely has a different meaning
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 1:51pm On Jan 15, 2025
Goke7:
that's subjective as many blacks now carry European or other Western nations' passports or were even born there so you referring to considering their people first surely has a different meaning
been born in Wes:tern nations' or carrying Wes:tern nations' passports does not make the person ethnicity to become European or scot or english or welsh or german or italian e.t.c..

it is not subjective.. ethnicity is very important..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:54pm On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
fraudulent Nigerian?
I mean it was obvious he became ‘Nigerian’ just to play at the World Cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 1:56pm On Jan 15, 2025
codemaniacs:
been born in Wes:tern nations' or carrying Wes:tern nations' passports does not make the person ethnicity to become European or scot or english or welsh or german or italian e.t.c..

it is not subjective.. ethnicity is very important..
but the same ethnicity is not important when they want them as players to win laurels
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 1:58pm On Jan 15, 2025
Is it true Westham wants Awoniyi? It wouldbbe great for him to work under Graham Potter if true. Though I doubt Forrest would let him go. They are really ambitious about a top 4 finish and the stars seem to be aligning for them.

A solid bench is necessary for a top 4 finish.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 2:00pm On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
Let me still rephrase myself again.

At this point in our history with the NFF, I believe we are with a ring of people that are not patriotic or detribalized in their judgment.

I believe, Amunike's ethnicity played a part in so many rejections from the NFF chamber.

I also used his open sabotages he dealt as the reason to back my belief. It was too harsh and consistent. Giving Finidi the job over him was still the continuous sabotage he has dealt with when it concerns the NFF.

To chip in, Oliseh didn't understand the challenges Keshi was dealing with and thought it was all smooth. When he got in and saw how bad things were, he had to scream out and leave. Keep in mind, Oliseh was also sabotaged. His CHAN team was a crazy one. Oliseh was spending thousands of dollars of his personal money to feed the team. Peterside Idah said he flew to South Africa, paid the CHAN team a visit in camp and Oliseh begged him for money to feed the players.

However, Amunike's own was long and severe. I believe some bad eggs in the NFF are tribalistic.
It has nothing to do with tribalism and if it had anything to do with tribalism then there's always a way around it as long as it relates to finances...

Oliseh and Amunike are both from the oil rich and gas rich regions of Nigeria.. if they issues with funding the team they could have reached out to their state governments or wealthy individuals interested in sports or football for support..

In America, the NCAA is funded through corporate sponsorships, ticket sales e.t.c..

Oliseh and Amunike could have gotten corporate sponsorships... but majority of Nigerians believe the government agencies must do everything when the same government agencies have repeatedly shown that they do not care
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 2:04pm On Jan 15, 2025
Goke7:
but the same ethnicity is not important when they want them as players to win laurels
when they eventually win the laurels they don't attribute to the black players...

when Osimh:en scored and assisted consistently for Napoli which led to them winning Serie A how did Napoli and the ital:ian media treat him ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 2:15pm On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
Keshi was not,fact if am in Keshi shoe Uche will not make my team.....Uche frustrated Keshi during Afcon.He dropped him for bad influence, criticizing your coach and still want to be part of the team...I thought Osaze made the team..Echiejele replaced Taiwo perfectly.

At the end Keshi reached 2nd round of WC that Westerhoff reached,so nothing like fraud.

Westerhoff and Keshi remain the bests.
Yea Keshi remains the best when it comes to achievements with the national team but doesn't change the fact some of the players selected for that world cup were fraud. Ike Uche never had any disciplinary record until that Afcon, his of was criticizing his coach tactics not like he was attacking Keshi personally but his tactics, what wrong with that. That's why in Nigeria when someone criticised reforms of a government we see it as attack on the president.
We are all like our leaders.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 2:18pm On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
Look Keshi have seen it all and told Osaze point-blank play my tactics or get out.....the same Osaze that criticized Lagerback for starting Chinedu Obaze ahead of him during 2010 WC,telling whole world that Siasia was not fit to handle Olympics team after the tournament......Osaze talked to much,hope you remember how he almost ruined Kanu marriage
But Osaze the talkative and instigator still went to the world cup but ike Uche didn't.
In all these, Osaze is still one player that gives his all for the country, one of my favourite Nigeria player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:20pm On Jan 15, 2025
codemaniacs:
It has nothing to do with tribalism and if it had anything to do with tribalism then there's always a way around it as long as it relates to finances...

Oliseh and Amunike are both from the oil rich and gas rich regions of Nigeria.. if they issues with funding the team they could have reached out to their state governments or wealthy individuals interested in sports or football for support..

In America, the NCAA is funded through corporate sponsorships, ticket sales e.t.c..

Oliseh and Amunike could have gotten corporate sponsorships... but majority of Nigerians believe the government agencies must do everything when the same government agencies have repeatedly shown that they do not care
Funny. It is the National team. You can't have coaches leaving camp and running around looking for money to sponsor the National team. Haba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 2:21pm On Jan 15, 2025
codemaniacs:
when they eventually win the laurels they don't attribute to the black players...

when Osimh:en scored and assisted consistently for Napoli which led to them winning Serie A how did Napoli and the ital:ian media treat him ?
yes na, shebi even some folks here were blasting Osihmen for his behaviour and some of us here were constantly explaining reasons and how terrible the club was but No some believed it was Osihmen at fault. It's all use and dump and never wanting to share the spotlight, is the reason why it will be difficult for many black coaches to emerge in Europe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 2:22pm On Jan 15, 2025
Kog45:
Rohr picked Idowu,Simmy Nwankwo right but he is not a fraud but Keshi na fraud
Sir, Keshi own too much how do you defend selecting Amoebi, uchebo(Mr flavor), nwafor, Ruben, Gambo(confederations Cup) How? 🙄
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 2:24pm On Jan 15, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
Funny. It is the National team. You can't have coaches leaving camp and running around looking for money to sponsor the National team. Haba.
the coach does not have to do anything or at most make phone calls.

Super Eagles have a media department, marketing department, logistics department anyone from these departments could have been assigned the job by the coach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:24pm On Jan 15, 2025
zicky:
Yea Keshi remains the best when it comes to achievements with the national team but doesn't change the fact some of the players selected for that world cup were fraud. Ike Uche never had any disciplinary record until that Afcon, his of was criticizing his coach tactics not like he was attacking Keshi personally but his tactics, what wrong with that. That's why in Nigeria when someone criticised reforms of a government we see it as attack on the president.
We are all like our leaders.
As Sylvanus Okpala put it. If Liverpool had signed Uche, would he insist for the Liverpool coaching crew that he wants to play the way Villarreal used him? It was pure indiscipline.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 2:24pm On Jan 15, 2025
ChrisKels:
Una dun dey raise stupid arguments over here. So, Amunike was denied for being Igbo? so why was Okechukwu Keshi hired? Why was Christian Chukwu hired? Even Ogochukwu Oliseh even though the efulefu does not know his identity? At age grade, Nduka Ugbade, Amunike, John Obuh.

Since Yemi Tela in 2007 and Onigbinde in 2002 can you name another Yoruba coach and why aren't any Yoruba crying over that? Okay, who are the Fulani coaches or Hausa coaches being hired in place of the almighty Amunike?

I wish this site is not archaic, aswear there are too many monikers to block for my mental health.
Bro only Goodjoe and one other Monica made that claim address them directly.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:26pm On Jan 15, 2025
codemaniacs:
the coach does not have to do anything or at most make phone calls.

Super Eagles have a media department, marketing department, logistics department anyone from these departments could have been assigned the job by the coach.
Not true. That is the job of the NFF administrative team and not the coach. The coach has specific duties.

Let us not take Siasia's resourcefulness as a norm.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 2:26pm On Jan 15, 2025
chrisooblog:
Egbon I still feel Keshi should have found a way to take Uche to the 2014 WC. After all this same troublesome Uche was recalled by Keshi for the AFCON 2015 qualifiers when Nigeria was in danger of missing out.
Bro God bless you, na your wife you go marry 👍
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