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Hello everyone. Please has anyone who gave birth in 2020 been able to renew their visa since 2024/ 2025? The VO's keep talking about the birth tourism ban in 2020 and had an issue with the 4mths stay and refused to renew the visa now even though birth was declared during the past interview and at cbp and full payment was made. Does this mean the visa will never be renewed since the fact still remains the lady had a baby in 2020. What will need to change to get a visa approval? Anyone overcome this situation before?

FavouredMrs:
Hello everyone. Please has anyone who gave birth in 2020 been able to renew their visa since 2024/ 2025? The VO's keep talking about the birth tourism ban in 2020 and had an issue with the 4mths stay and refused to renew the visa now even though birth was declared during the past interview and at cbp and full payment was made. Does this mean the visa will never be renewed since the fact still remains the lady had a baby in 2020. What will need to change to get a visa approval? Anyone overcome this situation before?

pls can people who have gone for an interview 24/25 pls reply , I had 2 kids 2016/2017 and another In 2023, did drop box and I have an interview in February, people that I know gave birth , have been refused , I don’t even know if it’s worth it going for the interview at this point

Bossman:
That would be very difficult for him to achieve as it would require a change to the 14th Amendment of the Constitution. It would be a long and very tedious process. What he can and will likely do though, is make it difficult to get visa or totally stop this visa for birthing purposes.

Not true. It would simply require the court to interpret the meaning of jurisdiction. A justice like Scalia would have argued that the intent of the framers was not to allow non-citizens to flood here and use their children as anchors.

Millzyte:
Hello guys, happy new year!

Please I need your assistance. I’d like to find out if anyone who was returned at POE has been able to renew their visa. I had an experience in 2018 when I was going to have my second baby. Met a racist at Chicago POE who swore she’d make sure I get returned. Long story. Anyway at the end of the day I was returned and was asked to apply again. Bear in mind I had my first baby in America and I went with my zero balance proof.

So my question is that I’m pregnant now and would like to try USA again but I need advice. Has anyone with similar experience gotten another visa? If yes, please guide me through and if no, share your experience with me please. Your responses are anticipated. God bless you.

Thank god for trump. These are the people messing up the system

DrAkpamudehe:
Thank god for trump. These are the people messing up the system

As how

Debbieeeeeee:
As how

Trump has joined banned automatic citizenship

Make I gaslight all these anchor baby seeking parents ntooooooorrr
Born for naija your pikin will be okay 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Millzyte:
Hello guys, happy new year!

Please I need your assistance. I’d like to find out if anyone who was returned at POE has been able to renew their visa. I had an experience in 2018 when I was going to have my second baby. Met a racist at Chicago POE who swore she’d make sure I get returned. Long story. Anyway at the end of the day I was returned and was asked to apply again. Bear in mind I had my first baby in America and I went with my zero balance proof.

So my question is that I’m pregnant now and would like to try USA again but I need advice. Has anyone with similar experience gotten another visa? If yes, please guide me through and if no, share your experience with me please. Your responses are anticipated. God bless you.

This fraud never get the memo. Make we tell am?

I am curious to see what tricks these bold parents will start spewing here.

There is an incentive for ratting out anyone who circumvents US immigration laws and me I go use am as side hustle lol

I am an illegal immigrant in the US. Can you report me please

Exceptional300:
I am an illegal immigrant in the US. Can you report me please

Quote me next time. You be rookie. I may have another fish for you.
Upload your pic and last name if e sure your papa

Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification. Now that he has just signed the executive order, I would expect the probability of getting visa for birthing purposes to be very low right now, even as this goes to the courts.

TWoods:
Not true. It would simply require the court to interpret the meaning of jurisdiction. A justice like Scalia would have argued that the intent of the framers was not to allow non-citizens to flood here and use their children as anchors.

slashthroat:
Make I gaslight all these anchor baby seeking parents ntooooooorrr
Born for naija your pikin will be okay 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Thank God we don born for America and people like you never fit travel to Benin Republic sef 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Abuleoshi:
Thank God we don born for America and people like you never fit travel to Benin Republic sef 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yinmu I hear you

babestell:
Yes

Oak Bend has closed down their labour and maternity unit apparently. What Dr are you using. you may need to ask them for the fees schedule. I am using Memorial herman for delivery. If its Dr Z then ask him, i met mamas in his waiting room who used West Houston.

must have seen you at Dr Z office last Thursday. Small world

Its the interpretation of the 14th amendment

For those who need the text of the EO see here.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/

Its effective 30days from Jan 20.

For mother's already in the US. Don't be anxious whaats paramount is your safe delivery and the health of mother and child.

For those intending on coming for this reason Id advise caution.

Hello everyone,

It is good to see that this trend is still up and running.
Unfortunately from this month it will be slow due to the executive order Trump signed.

Mamas currently in US, I dont think this new law will affect you, it is those who scale through interview here in Nigeria and gets into US (if they are not returned from POE) that will have to face the hurdles of getting citizenship by birth for their babies.

In 2019, Trump was the President and most mothers who had given birth before his administration were denied Visas. I know a friend who was lucky to get visa for her second child during Biden Administration after a denied visa during Trumps Administration.

This new sheriff will follow his intentions to the T hence i will advice prospective mothers who want their child to have another citizenship to look at other countries for now ( for another 4 years) because it will be tough to get birth citizenship using visiting visa by non immigrant mothers.

If you currently have an interview with the Embassy, it is up to you to decide if you will like for a blue paper or faith it and see just maybe you will get a visa.
I wish you all success.

The 14th Amendment is a complex piece of legislation, and any constitutional conflicts surrounding it can only be resolved through a ruling from the Supreme Court. Currently, the executive order signed by President Donald Trump is facing challenges in court, and we’re all waiting to see how that plays out. If you're already in the U.S., it's best to just take a deep breath and relax. Since the introduction of this executive order on the 20th of January, I've reviewed and contributed to various legal opinions. The 14th Amendment has been tested since 1884 and has stood firm despite challenges. The executive order overlooks established judicial precedents and the overarching authority of the Constitution.

this law is no more valid its gone

Debbieeeeeee:
The 14th Amendment is a complex piece of legislation, and any constitutional conflicts surrounding it can only be resolved through a ruling from the Supreme Court. Currently, the executive order signed by President Donald Trump is facing challenges in court, and we’re all waiting to see how that plays out. If you're already in the U.S., it's best to just take a deep breath and relax. Since the introduction of this executive order on the 20th of January, I've reviewed and contributed to various legal opinions. The 14th Amendment has been tested since 1884 and has stood firm despite challenges. The executive order overlooks established judicial precedents and the overarching authority of the Constitution.

the reasons for the amendment are not the same reasons in these times though., it's not a Civil rights matter
either of two things will happen the EO will be suspended till it gets to the supreme [/b]court or it will stay till it gets to the [b]supreme court. Either way the judicial process will take some time.
Although Roe vs Wade is different, yet it was overturned after decades.

Jus soli is not even present in many countries of the world both developed and developing. Outside the Americas Jus soli is rare. Africa Asia Europe, UK and Oceania.

Its the arrest of 'illegal' immigrants in hospitals and religious places that I think states should face because that's just crazy, illegal is not the same as undocumented before ICE people start clearing people anyhow.

Bossman:
Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification. Now that he has just signed the executive order, I would expect the probability of getting visa for birthing purposes to be very low right now, even as this goes to the courts.

Even if the EO is stayed in the lower courts, obtaining a birthing visa will be close to impossible.

Adebubler:
Hello everyone,

It is good to see that this trend is still up and running.
Unfortunately from this month it will be slow due to the executive order Trump signed.

Mamas currently in US, I dont think this new law will affect you, it is those who scale through interview here in Nigeria and gets into US (if they are not returned from POE) that will have to face the hurdles of getting citizenship by birth for their babies.

In 2019, Trump was the President and most mothers who had given birth before his administration were denied Visas. I know a friend who was lucky to get visa for her second child during Biden Administration after a denied visa during Trumps Administration.

This new sheriff will follow his intentions to the T hence i will advice prospective mothers who want their child to have another citizenship to look at other countries for now ( for another 4 years) because it will be tough to get birth citizenship using visiting visa by non immigrant mothers.

If you currently have an interview with the Embassy, it is up to you to decide if you will like for a blue paper or faith it and see just maybe you will get a visa.
I wish you all success.

It will. After 30 days, no child born to anyone on a non-immigrant visa will be permitted to obtain US citizenship.

Debbieeeeeee:
The 14th Amendment is a complex piece of legislation, and any constitutional conflicts surrounding it can only be resolved through a ruling from the Supreme Court. Currently, the executive order signed by President Donald Trump is facing challenges in court, and we’re all waiting to see how that plays out. If you're already in the U.S., it's best to just take a deep breath and relax. Since the introduction of this executive order on the 20th of January, I've reviewed and contributed to various legal opinions. The 14th Amendment has been tested since 1884 and has stood firm despite challenges. The executive order overlooks established judicial precedents and the overarching authority of the Constitution.

It doesn't. SCOTUS will keep the 1898 decision, but will uphold the EO on a narrow interpretation. Those who drafted the EO for Trump aren't dumb. The framers of the amendment and the 1898 court did not foresee the issue of anchor babies and birth tourism. The 14th Amendment was written precisely to reverse the Dred Scott decision, not to grant mass citizenship to offspring of Chinese mothers. This case will turn on the original intent, not the words of the amendment.

Here is the main problem from a wiki text of the pivotal Wong Kim Ark case:

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), was a landmark decision[4] of the U.S. Supreme Court which held that "a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China",[5] automatically became a U.S. citizen at birth.[6] This decision established an important precedent in its interpretation of the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.[4]

While it is true that Wong Kim Ark's parents were not US citizens, it is clear from the court that they were permanent residents. The Trump EO SPECIFICALLY admits that children of permanent residents ARE US citizens if born here. It only eliminates children of temporary, non-immigrant visas. The 1989 case did not cover these folks.

Note that SCOTUS at the time admitted that while his parents were permanent residents, they were still regarded as subjects of the Emperor of China. Birthright citizenship for non-citizens/permanent residents is gone for good. This was a master stroke by Trump.

Hi all

My friend just got her US visa today
She was told explicitly by the issuing officer that under no circumstance should she attempt to use it to go and give birth in America.
I would like to here from more women here if this has been your experience or for those with interview coming up

Hello, my close friend gave birth in 2023. Her visa expired in 2024. She did drop box and it was approved. She was not called for physical interview. She had not finished clearing her bills at that time sef.
Though she’s a frequent U.S. visitor.

FavouredMrs:
Hello everyone. Please has anyone who gave birth in 2020 been able to renew their visa since 2024/ 2025? The VO's keep talking about the birth tourism ban in 2020 and had an issue with the 4mths stay and refused to renew the visa now even though birth was declared during the past interview and at cbp and full payment was made. Does this mean the visa will never be renewed since the fact still remains the lady had a baby in 2020. What will need to change to get a visa approval? Anyone overcome this situation before?

I was told the same thing when I went in for my interview after I submitted through drop box and was called in for an interview.

Cheers!

MsAnonymous:
Hi all

My friend just got her US visa today
She was told explicitly by the issuing officer that under no circumstance should she attempt to use it to go and give birth in America.
I would like to here from more women here if this has been your experience or for those with interview coming up

After February 19 to be precise....

TWoods:
It will. After 30 days, no child born to anyone on a non-immigrant visa will be permitted to obtain US citizenship.

LadyCaplin:
I was told the same thing when I went in for my interview after I submitted through drop box and was called in for an interview.

Cheers!

hello @ladycaplin when did you have your kids pls , could you pls say what was asked , I had a baby in 2023 , I have an appointment next week and really anxious , had two kids 2016/2017 applied for birthing visas , in 2022 had an interview to take my son for a check up , they asked for the appointment details and issued the visa , got pregnant end of 2022 and gave birth 2023

TWoods:
It doesn't. SCOTUS will keep the 1898 decision, but will uphold the EO on a narrow interpretation. Those who drafted the EO for Trump aren't dumb. The framers of the amendment and the 1898 court did not foresee the issue of anchor babies and birth tourism. The 14th Amendment was written precisely to reverse the Dred Scott decision, not to grant mass citizenship to offspring of Chinese mothers. This case will turn on the original intent, not the words of the amendment.

Here is the main problem from a wiki text of the pivotal Wong Kim Ark case:

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), was a landmark decision[4] of the U.S. Supreme Court which held that "a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China",[5] automatically became a U.S. citizen at birth.[6] This decision established an important precedent in its interpretation of the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.[4]

While it is true that Wong Kim Ark's parents were not US citizens, it is clear from the court that they were permanent residents. The Trump EO SPECIFICALLY admits that children of permanent residents ARE US citizens if born here. It only eliminates children of temporary, non-immigrant visas. The 1989 case did not cover these folks.

Note that SCOTUS at the time admitted that while his parents were permanent residents, they were still regarded as subjects of the Emperor of China. Birthright citizenship for non-citizens/permanent residents is gone for good. This was a master stroke by Trump.

Your argument misses a key point: United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) made it clear that birthright citizenship applies to anyone born in the U.S., except for rare cases like children of diplomats. The 14th Amendment’s words are straightforward “subject to jurisdiction” applies broadly, and courts have upheld this for over a century. The president cannot rewrite the Constitution with an executive order; only an amendment can change this, and that’s not happening. Courts don’t rely on speculation about what the framers “didn’t foresee” they rely on what the law says and established precedent. This EO directly contradicts the Constitution and cases like Plyler v. Doe. Calling it a “master stroke” ignores the fact that it will be struck down for violating the law.

Taal17:
the reasons for the amendment are not the same reasons in these times though., it's not a Civil rights matter
either of two things will happen the EO will be suspended till it gets to the supreme [/b]court or it will stay till it gets to the [b]supreme court. Either way the judicial process will take some time.
Although Roe vs Wade is different, yet it was overturned after decades.

Jus soli is not even present in many countries of the world both developed and developing. Outside the Americas Jus soli is rare. Africa Asia Europe, UK and Oceania.

Its the arrest of 'illegal' immigrants in hospitals and religious places that I think states should face because that's just crazy, illegal is not the same as undocumented before ICE people start clearing people anyhow.

The 14th Amendment is crystal clear: anyone born in the U.S. and subject to its jurisdiction is a citizen. That’s not bound by time or the reasons it was created. The Supreme Court in Wong Kim Ark settled this over 100 years ago, and no EO can override the Constitution or decades of precedent. Comparing this to Roe v. Wade makes no sense Roe dealt with judicial interpretation, not an explicit constitutional guarantee like birthright citizenship. Jus soli being rare in other countries is irrelevant; the U.S. Constitution doesn’t follow what other nations do. This EO will fail because it directly violates the law, and no amount of twisting can change that.

LoveQuebec:
this law is no more valid its gone

The Constitution is the supreme law of the land, as upheld in Marbury v. Madison and Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, no executive order, including Trump’s, can override it. Courts will strike down any EO that conflicts with constitutional protections like the 14th Amendment.

Debbieeeeeee:
The 14th Amendment is crystal clear: anyone born in the U.S. and subject to its jurisdiction is a citizen. That’s not bound by time or the reasons it was created. The Supreme Court in Wong Kim Ark settled this over 100 years ago, and no EO can override the Constitution or decades of precedent. Comparing this to Roe v. Wade makes no sense Roe dealt with judicial interpretation, not an explicit constitutional guarantee like birthright citizenship. Jus soli being rare in other countries is irrelevant; the U.S. Constitution doesn’t follow what other nations do. This EO will fail because it directly violates the law, and no amount of twisting can change that.

You appear to be well-informed and knowledgeable. However, people are concerned about the lawyers who drafted the EO as it is assumed that they are masters of this law.

When can we expect to know whether the EO will be discarded or has already been discarded? Will this happen before February 19th?

What will happen next?