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Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 7:25am On Jan 21, 2025
gohf:
😂😂 are you not deceiving yourself like the lie of a topic you wrote.. ALL DOUBTS CLEARED, it that not a lie, instead of clearing doubts you raised even more doubts
Only the liars will say more doubts are raised.

Can you show me from that scripture in Micah 5:2 that Jesus is not from Everlasting? You guys are antichrists.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:26am On Jan 21, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Yiu are brainwashed. In everyday language who is your neighbor? Is it not ONLY in the Bible that neighbor has a different meaning?
Also, you said "God said...", so you agree Christ is interchangeable with God?
When a prophet of God delivers God's message does that makes the prophet a part of Trinity?
Well at Leviticus 19:18 Moses is the one delivering the message o! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:31am On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
So, this is how you intend to dodge the question. Have I exchanged insults with you before you accused me of cursing and abusing? Your brothers in the fake christ even supported you by liking your lying post. Birds of a feather! Mention where I abused or cursed anyone if you have any honour whatsoever!
Gather yourselves together and start the work Jesus assigned to his faithful disciples then you will know that by the time you have REAL SPIRITUAL BROTHERS in all the countries of the world nobody needs to tell you that the works of military men is against God's will by the time soldiers are killing your so called fellow believers who supposed to be doing the work of your God in other lands! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:33am On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
Maxindhouse said Jesus was a created being. The confusion these people put themselves in can only happen after one has been bewitched.
A FIRSTBORN child is one of the children o! Colossians 1:15 smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by gohf: 8:19am On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
Only the liars will say more doubts are raised.

Can you show me from that scripture in Micah 5:2 that Jesus is not from Everlasting? You guys are antichrists.
you are a liar for raising those doubts and saying all doubts are cleared, that's deception.

because Jesus comes from everlasting you concluded that Jesus is God, therefore there are no more doubts. That's the dubious statement of a halfbaked salesman that wants to rip people off.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 12:13pm On Jan 21, 2025
gohf:
you are a liar for raising those doubts and saying all doubts are cleared, that's deception.

because Jesus comes from everlasting you concluded that Jesus is God, therefore there are no more doubts. That's the dubious statement of a halfbaked salesman that wants to rip people off.
My dear who is that person who comes from everlasting, with no beginning, other than God?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 12:14pm On Jan 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
A FIRSTBORN child is one of the children o! Colossians 1:15 smiley
And you did not read that all.thungs were made by Him, existed through Him and for Him?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 12:17pm On Jan 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Gather yourselves together and start the work Jesus assigned to his faithful disciples then you will know that by the time you have REAL SPIRITUAL BROTHERS in all the countries of the world nobody needs to tell you that the works of military men is against God's will by the time soldiers are killing your so called fellow believers who supposed to be doing the work of your God in other lands! smiley
I already have spiritual brothers and sisters everywhere in the world. None of them are antichrists like you.

Stop dodging, and mention the curses and the abuses you attributed to me! Are you not ashamed of being a liar? Don't you want to prove me wrong?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by gohf: 12:31pm On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
My dear who is that person who comes from everlasting, with no beginning, other than God?
God is everlasting
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:34pm On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
And you did not read that all.thungs were made by Him, existed through Him and for Him?
He is the FIRST BORN means of all that's created he was the first! Proverbs 8:22-30 smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:36pm On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
I already have spiritual brothers and sisters everywhere in the world. None of them are antichrists like you.
And you support WARS so that soldiers can go and kill your spiritual brothers and sisters in other lands simply because they are not your race! cheesy
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 7:20pm On Jan 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
And you support WARS so that soldiers can go and kill your spiritual brothers and sisters in other lands simply because they are not your race! cheesy
Can you show me where I gave support to wars?

You are yet to prove your shameless lies accusing me of cursing and abusing.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 7:22pm On Jan 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
He is the FIRST BORN means of all that's created he was the first! Proverbs 8:22-30 smiley
He is the Word through which all things were created.

Did you hear that God created the Word? He's the firstborn because He's the foundation of all creation.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 7:23pm On Jan 21, 2025
gohf:
God is everlasting
End of story.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:17pm On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
Can you show me where I gave support to wars? You are yet to prove your shameless lies accusing me of cursing and abusing.
Can Christians be soldiers? smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:18pm On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
He is the Word through which all things were created.

Did you hear that God created the Word? He's the firstborn because He's the foundation of all creation.
Naaaaaaaaah, there no firstborn that's not part of those been born! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by gohf: 8:26pm On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
End of story.
Jesus is not God.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by gohf: 8:31pm On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
He is the Word through which all things were created.

Did you hear that God created the Word? He's the firstborn because He's the foundation of all creation.
so according to you God did not lay the foundations of the world?!!
Job.38.4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
Isa.51.13 that you forget the LORD your Maker, who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth, that you live in constant terror every day because of the wrath of the oppressor, who is bent on destruction? For where is the wrath of the oppressor?
Ps.104.5 You who laid the foundations of the earth, So that it should not be moved forever,
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 9:10pm On Jan 21, 2025
Mental Illness Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses - continue
jwfacts..com

"From my own research, I met Jehovah's Witnesses who do celebrate birthdays, vote for political candidates, sit around Christmas trees (albeit with the closed curtains), have premarital sex, let off fireworks at New Year's Eve and smoke an occasional cigar after a good meal. So, drawing conclusions from the movement's literature (particularly back editions) to evaluate the day-to-day practices of a specific family may render an inaccurate picture of their proper religious involvement (Wah 1997b: 306)."

Singelenberg proceeds to quote Wilson in regard to the sometime unfair perception of people towards sects;

"Because sectarians do not choose what others choose, holds themselves apart in their use of leisure time and ... associate only with each other rather than with non-members, that sects elicit some of the strongest reactions from the general public. The child-centered society is inclined to see prohibitions respecting children's play activities as wilful deprivation. We live in a tolerant society. There is no reason at all why the mother should not espouse the beliefs and practices of Jehovah's Witnesses There is nothing immoral or socially obnoxious in the beliefs and practice of the sect... (Wilson 1990: 37, 38, 51)

Due to the negative perception of a Witness upbringing, two court custody cases discussed by Singelenberg found against the Witness parent. The reasoning is worth consideration and highlights the negative viewpoints inculcated into Witness children.

Case i The Netherlands, 1991

In this custody case the husband left the wife after she became a Jehovah's Witness. The wife initially won custody but later this was overturned and given to the husband.

"Of course, the Board does not render an opinion about the religious conviction of the mother. However, the Board cannot ignore the fact that mother's active involvement in this community will have consequences for the upbringing of the children.

… though mother is able to put herself in the experience of the children, it remains to be seen if she, from her univocal view on the world and on mankind, can give the children enough opportunity to form an opinion of their own and enable them to unfold and develop their talents.

It remains to be seen if [the mother] can give enough room to the children, so they can unfold according to their nature. The fundamental as well as the relational anchorage of the children in the group of Jehovah's Witnesses give reason for some concern, because in case they react against this belief there is a danger they end up in a social vacuum."

Case ii Germany, 1993

In case ii a husband was disfellowshipped and the wife took custody. The Jehovah's Witness wife started to beat the child, one time an eyewitness found the child unconscious. The wife's reason was that he was turning out like the husband and she was frustrated due to the divorce. An expert on 'Cults and World Views' from the Evangelical Lutheran Church was called to provide information about the type of harm that comes from being raised as a Witness;

"[1] The educational target of the Jehovah's Witnesses is subordination by coercion and uncritical acceptance of religious doctrines and teachings, in order to break the free will of the growing child and to mould it into an uncritical and dependent individual.

[2] It should be made clear that the outside world is a hostile environment, which has harmful effects on children of Jehovah's Witnesses. But more than that, Jehovah's Witnesses should fear a vengeful God and an imminent Armageddon. Unbelievers, including unbelieving children will be victims of a 'bloody liquidation' in that final battle.

When, for example, the child is being cast off from the community, family members are not allowed to have any spiritual contact with the child. The relationship between parents and child will be strictly limited to satisfy the biological needs of the child. The child will be treated as an outcast.

Secondary education is looked upon with suspicion because 'it has been proved that this will lead to a preference of satanic material things' and a gradual withdrawal from the religious sphere."

The court found "that the child, brought up with these views (as explained by the expert on cults), will probably be mentally harmed for the rest of his life." People in general hold concern for Witness children, specifically due to segregation from the world, coercion based on fear of Armageddon and possible shunning, and being dissuaded from critical thinking and individual development.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky:
MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaah, there no firstborn that's not part of those been born! smiley
There's no length Gotham won't go to twist the holy scriptures in imitation of his Trinitarian mentors.
They don't want first born to mean first born.

GothamCities:
He is the Word through which all things were created.

Did you hear that God created the Word? He's the firstborn because He's the foundation of all creation.
Have you removed Hebrew 1:5-6 from your Bible that Jesus is the first born of God his Father?

Have you removed 1 Corinthians 11:3 & 1 Timothy 2:13 from your Bible that Eve is the last born of God?

Have you removed God's hierarchical structure from your Bible at 1 Corinthians 11:3?

Jesus Christ is a creature.
You can not change the holy scriptures
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky:
DaddyCoool:
No wonder. You must be like 14 years old. One never knows who one's chatting with on NL.

Something taught in elementary school is what he is talking like it's a great new discovery!😅
How old are you?

!
Are you sleepy or tipsy?

Wetin concern Luke 9:60 & Ephesians 2:1 with elementary school?
Which elementary school did you learn that Jesus at Luke 9:60 "let the dead bury their dead" is a reference to Ephesians 2:1?

Please don't insult me to cover up your.......



DaddyCoool:
Of course Christ meant spiritually dead, but what has that to do with my point?
If your dad is not JW he's spiritually dead in your parlance so you should not bury him. That's what's consistent with your strict constructionist view. That's my point!


JW's wholeheartedly embrace the message and teaching of Jesus Christ without any reservation.

We no dey put spices and medemede like you did at revelation 3:12 to deny Jesus worshipping Jehovah God.
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Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:43pm On Jan 21, 2025
Janosky:
There's no length Gotham won't go to twist the holy scriptures in imitation of his Trinitarian mentors.
They don't want first born to mean first born.
Until they are able to remove the title "FIRSTBORN" in their Bibles Jesus remains a CREATURE like others that are BORN! wink
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky:
DaddyCoool:
"BY HIM"!!
See it below
Your claim is NOT correct.

Please Check the screenshots Greek lexicon of John 1:3.

Did you buy your house by an agent?
OR:
You bought house through an Agent?
Do you agree that your Agent is the buyer of the house?

Please use your brain nau

Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:50pm On Jan 21, 2025
Janosky:
Your claim is NOT correct.
Please Check the screenshots Greek lexicon of John 1:3.
They failed to realize that God created us all through Adam just as God empower Jesus to create other things.

That's what makes both of them equal when it comes to our continue existence had Adam proved faithful like Jesus we wouldn't have had any need for a saviour talkless knowing Jesus! 1 Corinthians 15:45smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 11:01pm On Jan 21, 2025
johnw47:
Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

through Him or by Him, it shows that the Word didn't come into being/wasn't made
Revelation 3:14 , Jesus is the beginning of creation by God "
Please Remove Revelation 3:14 from your Bible.
The same John wrote Revelation 3:14 & John 1:3.

You can't discard Revelation 3:14 because it hurts your delusion.
grin grin
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 11:04pm On Jan 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
They failed to realize that God created us all through Adam just as God empower Jesus to create other things.

That's what makes both of them equal when it comes to our continue existence had Adam proved faithful like Jesus we wouldn't have had any need for a saviour talkless knowing Jesus! 1 Corinthians 15:45smiley
100% correct.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:04pm On Jan 21, 2025
Janosky:
Revelation 3:14 , Jesus is the beginning of creation by God "
Please Remove Revelation 3:14 from your Bible.
The same John wrote Revelation 3:14 & John 1:3.

You can't discard Revelation 3:14 because it hurts your delusion.
grin grin
Let him go and ask Paul Grundy what he thinks about Jesus since he's always quoting him! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 11:11pm On Jan 21, 2025
Janosky:
Revelation 3:14 , Jesus is the beginning of creation by God "
Please Remove Revelation 3:14 from your Bible.
The same John wrote Revelation 3:14 & John 1:3.
You can't discard Revelation 3:14 because it hurts your delusion.
grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

so you believe that God's word contradicts God's word, of course you people believe that

God made nothing without the Word, showing that the Word is not made:
Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 11:14pm On Jan 21, 2025
GothamCities:
I am not surprised, I have heard that the devil and his sons have the same lying gene flowing in their blood.

I told you Jehovah and Jesus answer to the same titles which demonstrates that the two are one! They're the same person. Not two persons, but you turned around to lie that I claimed to be worshipping two persons. May God have mercy on your soul.

If Jesus is Everlasting Father and God is Everlasting Father, can't you see Jesus = God? Same person.
grin grin
Nah so this kid dunce?
Have you edited John 14:28 in your Bible?
You are embarrassing yourself defending your delusion.

Ask your friends to show you how many persons you mentioned in your post.

👉👉GothamCities:
"He (Jesus) is the Aloha and Omega, just as Jehovah Himself.
He is the Beginning and the Ending, just as Jehovah Himself. He (Jehovah) is the Everlasting Father just as Jesus Himself"


Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 11:18pm On Jan 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Let him go and ask Paul Grundy what he thinks about Jesus since he's always quoting him! smiley
lost false jw mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit

you of course cannot stop lying like your father the devil, i quote from so called Jehovah's witnesses literature
at the jw facts site, false jw you know that you cannot stop lying like your father the devil, don't you:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 11:28pm On Jan 21, 2025
johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

so you believe that God's word contradicts God's word, of course you people believe that

God made nothing without the Word, showing that the Word is not made:
Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
What a dunce deluding himself!

Revelation meaning "
1.
a surprising and previously unknown fact that has been disclosed to others."


John later wrote Revelation 3:14
Jesus " is the beginning of the creation by God".


Revelation 3:14 is an update on John 1:3.

John double dunce LYING miscreant .
.
grin
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47:
Janosky:
What a dunce deluding himself!
Revelation meaning "
1.a surprising and previously unknown fact that has been disclosed to others."
John later wrote Revelation 3:14
Jesus " is the beginning of the creation by God".

Revelation 3:14 is an update on John 1:3.
John double dunce LYING miscreant .
grin
talk about a deluded dunce and a lying miscreant and a lover of false doctrines

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

^^ nothing was created except through Jesus so you need to understand those scriptures that you like to believe contradict john 1:3



Rev 3:14  To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the (arche) ruler of God's creation. 

the word is "arche" which means; "ruler", "chief"

just like michael is the archangel; "archeaggelos" = ruling angel or chief angel




false jw false accuser like your father the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

false jw liar like your father the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
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