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Hisroyalbadmeat:
Women can't be Bishops, simple, The priesthood is for men, Wata Bam Bam

Why?? Is it because they have a vagina or becos women can't just do the Job??

See how Christians are tearing each other into smithereens over a simple matter like this. Maybe atheists or buddhists should come in-between them since muslims are anathema to them.

TribalChair:
Her ordination as a bishop is long overdue...

Is this Anglican Church?

jesusjnr2020:
I don't think she even deserves to be a church leader from all I've heard from her despite being a popular figure, but if God is the one who chose her to lead His flock, who am I to object?

I can only air my views, but it's only up to God not men to chose whichever vessel He wants to lead His sheep, whether male or female as proven with the instance Deborah in the Bible days among others.

God is not a respecter of persons, gender, colour, but only those who truly fear Him and walk righteously before Him, and only looks at the heart when it comes to choosing leaders for His people.

God bless.

God bless who?

happney65:
Bible or no Bible. Religion or no Religion. Mr Deji Yesufu is a misogynist. As much as I enjoy his writings sometimes, His stand on women is so glaring.

Saw him during the US Elections claiming one of the reasons why Kamala should not be President is because she is a Woman and women should not be in position of leadership

Opinions like that should be in the olden ages and for illeterates. Not Educated Men like Mr Deji

With respect though, even a broken clock is correct twice in a day.
Liberalism/wokeness is emasculating men and creating effeminate men.
Maybe women should take charge let all men become homos.
Then the rubbish species would rightly die out - good riddance to rubbish!

Benekkk:
Deborah was a prophetess.
The Bible clearly says women can't take spiritual authority over men.

Where did the bible say that? Please I want to learn.

It will be an interesting time in heaven if we can all be allowed to replay our time and on earth on a large screen while we all sit back to watch

Mervingreat:
Wait, I guess she owned h church ba, so who now her GO or Boss that said to her oh my worker or staff it's time to become a Bishop? Or she by herself ordained herself in her own church as Bishop by herself or by who?3

Your eyes go soon clear.

Your madam don enter the altar of occultic bishopism. Open your eyes abeg. No let me talk.

You're right!
It's her church.
God doesn't change or contradict himself.
No female Pastor or Bishop in the Church founded by Christ himself in Matthew 16: 18

May I never leave my assignment and concentrate on criticizing others.

happney65:
Bible or no Bible. Religion or no Religion. Mr Deji Yesufu is a misogynist. As much as I enjoy his writings sometimes, His stand on women is so glaring.

Saw him during the US Elections claiming one of the reasons why Kamala should not be President is because she is a Woman and women should not be in position of leadership

Opinions like that should be in the olden ages and for illeterates. Not Educated Men like Mr Deji

But on this he is right. The Bible does not support a woman pastoring a church not to mention becoming a Bishop!!

jesusjnr2020:
I don't think she even deserves to be a church leader from all I've heard from her despite being a popular figure, but if God is the one who chose her to lead His flock, who am I to object?

I can only air my views, but it's only up to God not men to chose whichever vessel He wants to lead His sheep, whether male or female as proven with the instance Deborah in the Bible days among others.

God is not a respecter of persons, gender, colour, but only those who truly fear Him and walk righteously before Him, and only looks at the heart when it comes to choosing leaders for His people.

God bless.

Guess what? None of us is qualified. That is where grace comes in.

She is only answerable to Christ not any man.

All these inconsequential titles.......

Wallade:
Where did the bible say that? Please I want to learn.

1 Timothy 2:12
"But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
1 Corinthians 14:34
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law."

Iykenuwa:
Guess what? None of us is qualified. That is where grace comes in.

She is only answerable to Christ not any man.

None is qualified but God still uses the heart as a criteria to choosing men and women for His work. Grace cannot negate that fact.

Ojuntana:
But on this he is right. The Bible does not support a woman pastoring a church not to mention becoming a Bishop!!

That is why I said "Bible apart, Religion apart" Because I have no opinion about that because me no be Christian. I'm just referring to his general outlook on women

How about the Biblical passage that says women should keep silent in church?

Oh deji Yusuf has become pastor of a church, --hahaha

you are too radical to be a pastor of a church O, hope your congregation aren't babe Christian Sha

In your article you mentioned 2 things, aside the adejumo issue

1, righteousness profits of in this life and after, oga deji righteousness only profit in the after life not here on earth

The earth belongs to unrighteous folks, reason a tinubu and is likes can be leaders

2, you said Europe and America prosper cos of links to Christianity, it not a 100% fact.


Though Some of their earlier leaders are principled and innovative people who laid a equality, moral and sound foundation not because of any Christian faith eg Abraham Lincoln

If Obasanjo had laid a good foundation as the first civilian president in this recent democracy even emulating Mandela, nigeria will not be like this, nigeria will be better

Europe and America are imperialist, controllers and pioneers, fact they had citizens are scientific inventors, they have a upper hand, eg why's dollars of America world currency, if naira is world currency nigeria too will be referred to has good

Christian didn't really shape their countries to be better than nigeria or africa

Catholicism which was prevalent then was a religious tool to subdue and manipulate

For adejumo na she and her ordinators Sabi O, anything is obtainable in christiandom nowadays, we are in end times, na her gullible followers who don't read the Bible I pity

Na even cartel

Benekkk:
1 Timothy 2:12
"But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
1 Corinthians 14:34
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law."

The book of Corinthians that you quoted was written by Apostle Paul right?

Book of Timothy was written by Timothy.


Why would Apostle Paul and Brother Timothy want women to be silent in gatherings or church?

Please note that I am not taking side with Women.

VBCampaign:
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End times things.....

happney65:
Bible or no Bible. Religion or no Religion. Mr Deji Yesufu is a misogynist. As much as I enjoy his writings sometimes, His stand on women is so glaring.

Saw him during the US Elections claiming one of the reasons why Kamala should not be President is because she is a Woman and women should not be in position of leadership

Opinions like that should be in the olden ages and for illeterates. Not Educated Men like Mr Deji

He might be right. Have you seen how badly some women who's been in positions behave?

That woman and her love for money sha.
That one no supposed even dey preach for church or become a Bishop. She should be man VC of Lagos Business School or Iyaloja General of NIgeria

charlypoker:
That woman and her love for money sha.
That one no supposed even dey preach for church or become a Bishop. She should be man VC of Lagos Business School or Iyaloja General of NIgeria

Most people that call themselves ministers of God are money mongers now

VBCampaign:
Deji Yesufu is the Pastor of Providence Reformed Baptist Church [/b]Ibadan. He is the author of HUMANITY.

...The impression we get from scripture is that the vast majority of church people will not be preacher – be they be male or female. Most of us will remain evangelists – using our platform to share gospel truths, and living these truths out to our unbelieving neighbours. In church, however, a few men will occupy positions of leadership as pastors and deacons. Among the pastors, a few will be teaching elders. That’s the biblical model. So, [b]when we say women cannot be preachers, we are not saying they cannot be evangelists

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This is the problem i have with Christianity

So many people pretend to expand infallible opinions about Christianity, who infact know very little or nothing about the religion.
Like this OP for instance
How on earth will a pastor, condemn ordination of women Bishopric- A post which is not even a ministerial office
Yet approve of female evangelist, which is the third highest ministerial church position?
Which is even higher than the office of pastor.
Evangelism is not just anyone street preaching, its an office in the church.

The five-fold ministry is based on Ephesians 4:11 and refers to the following roles within the Christian church:
1. Apostles
2. Prophets
3. Evangelists
4. Pastors
5. Teachers

The Christian faith is a myriad of confusion, susceptible to diverse bogus interpretation and populated by self-righteous, opinionated religious quacks, like OP. Who can cluelessly conclude that the foundation of western civilization is Christianity.

Morbeta11:
All these inconsequential titles.......

Thank you o

Krismas:
This is the problem i have with Christianity

So many people pretend to expand infallible opinions about Christianity, who infact know very little or nothing about the religion.
Like this OP for instance
How on earth will a pastor, condemn ordination of women Bishopric- A post which is not even a ministerial office
Yet sanction female evangelist, which is the third highest ministerial church position?
Which is even higher than the office of pastor.

The five-fold ministry is based on Ephesians 4:11 and refers to the following roles within the Christian church:
Apostles
Prophets
Evangelists
Pastors
Teachers

The Christian faith is a myriad of confusion, susceptible to diverse bogus interpretation and populated by self-righteous, opinionated religious quacks, like OP. Who can cluelessly conclude that the foundation of western civilization is Christianity.

Hmmmm

Another angle to look it

Wallade:
The book of Corinthians that you quoted was written by Apostle Paul right?

Book of Timothy was written by Timothy.


Why would Apostle Paul and Brother Timothy want women to be silent in gatherings or church?

Please note that I am not taking side with Women.

Maybe for orderliness

Mtcheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

Absolute nonsense

jesusjnr2020:
I don't think she even deserves to be a church leader from all I've heard from her despite being a popular figure, but if God is the one who chose her to lead His flock, who am I to object?

I can only air my views, but it's only up to God not men to chose whichever vessel He wants to lead His sheep, whether male or female as proven with the instance Deborah in the Bible days among others.

God is not a respecter of persons, gender, colour, but only those who truly fear Him and walk righteously before Him, and only looks at the heart when it comes to choosing leaders for His people.

God bless.


Modified:

That's why many Christians will keep being left behind what God is doing because they can decide for God who to choose for His work. That's how they were busy judging Kathryn Kulman on the basis of gender, when God was using her to do much more than most men of her generation were able to do, drawing many souls into the kingdom of God and raising some of the most influential preachers like Benny Hinn to continue from where she left off and raise other men. If you like don't learn but continue holding fast to the ideas, doctrines, and traditions of men that has nothing to do with God, it's your business. As for me, i want to be a part of what God is using women to do in these last days and not left out. God bless.

What's clearly written in the bible has now become the tradition of men because it doesn't suit you.

VBCampaign:
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Error...who dash monkey banana

charlypoker:
He might be right. Have you seen how badly some women who's been in positions behave?

And the Men that have ruled us all these while what has come out of it?

What I am saying is you don't judge people because of their Gender. We have bad bosses and bad leaders everywhere. Male and Female.

Judge a person because of their leadership traits and not because of their Gender