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If you believe in God but don’t believe in Jesus , are you destined for Hell? What is the fate of Jews, Muslims, traditional worshippers,Buddhists and other religions?

The Jews believe in the God of Abraham,Moses and David but don’t believe in Jesus! Are they all destined for hell? Elijah and Abraham made heaven as Jews and not as Christians!

Even among Christians, there are so many divisions/factions and denominations with different beliefs about God and Jesus. Some of these denominations believe they are the only righteous ones going to heaven while others are going to hell!

At the end of the day, God is the final judge. Man and religion have differing opinions but God remains the final arbiter. ‘Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man’ (Eccl 12:13)

In conclusion, when Jesus was asked about the greatest commandment in Matt 22:36-40; Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.

Let peace reign and let’s stop fighting each other’s religion. Love God and love your neighbour, that is the ultimate divine instruction.

Daejumong:
If you believe in God but don’t believe in Jesus , are you destined for Hell? What is the fate of Jews, Muslims, traditional worshippers,Buddhists and other religions?

The Jews believe in the God of Abraham,Moses and David but don’t believe in Jesus! Are they all destined for hell? Elijah and Abraham made heaven as Jews and not as Christians!

Even among Christians, there are so many divisions/factions and denominations with different beliefs about God and Jesus. Some of these denominations believe they are the only righteous ones going to heaven while others are going to hell!

At the end of the day, God is the final judge. Man and religion have differing opinions but God remains the final arbiter. ‘Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man’ (Eccl 12:13)

In conclusion, when Jesus was asked about the greatest commandment in Matt 22:36-40; Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.

Let peace reign and let’s stop fighting each other’s religion. Love God and love your neighbour, that is the ultimate divine instruction.

If Abraham and Elijah went to heaven, explain Jesus words in John 3:13.

How does it correlate.
Because did he said they went to heaven and comeback

Expanse2020:
How does it correlate.
Because did he said they went to heaven and comeback

Daejumong this answer is for you and that terrorist above.

Before the era of Issa, God judge based on the conduct of those periods and how they were taught to act. It's like our African ancestors like the greatgrandfathers of Expanse2020 who were eating sacrifices and enriched with African tradition. Many of them will make heaven because they were unable to get privilege of the gospel.
Whereas the case may be different for their son called Xpanse2020, Truthcat because the máhàukàcíi heard it loud and clear and still decided to pick their choice.
So to ya answer: many people will go to heaven irrespective of their religion. However there is clause for those that heard the gospel and failed to heed.

Padipadi:
Daejumong this answer is for you and that terrorist above.

Before the era of Issa, God judge based on the conduct of those periods and how they were taught to act. It's like our African ancestors like the greatgrandfathers of Expanse2020 who were eating sacrifices and enriched with African tradition. Many of them will make heaven because they were unable to get privilege of the gospel.
Whereas the case may be different for their son called Xpanse2020, Truthcat because the máhàukàcíi heard it loud and clear and still decided to be unfortunate.

It always amused me after how we try that you should not end up in hell but you fail to see the truth... Jesus himself is a Jew ND a rabbi why did you want to die on a wrong path.. Jesus didn't know anything about Christianity

Padipadi:
Daejumong this answer is for you and that terrorist above.

Before the era of Issa, God judge based on the conduct of those periods and how they were taught to act. It's like our African ancestors like the greatgrandfathers of Expanse2020 who were eating sacrifices and enriched with African tradition. Many of them will make heaven because they were unable to get privilege of the gospel.
Whereas the case may be different for their son called Xpanse2020, Truthcat because the máhàukàcíi heard it loud and clear and still decided to be unfortunate.

So those that died before hearing the gospel went to where?
Explain John 3:13. Where did Abraham and Elijah go to when they died?

Op, Christians are not fighting them, they are the one fighting Christians, killing Christians for allah and Muhammad that couldn't fight for themselves

Quran made them to understand that all Muslims are going to hell


“ We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, “I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together.”
-Surah 32:13


Quran 19:71
And (there is) not one of you but shall come to it (Hell). This is, with your Lord, a fixed decree

Truthseeker10:
So those that died before hearing the gospel went to where?
Explain John 3:13. Where did Abraham and Elijah go to when they died?

Those with good deeds before Christ are going to Aljanah Firdaus.

The story of life after death is deep. There is a place of hibernation for saints before judgement day. See
Luke 16:19-31. That is where those mentioned in John 3:13 went to.

People have been dying since time of Adam and the world hasn't ended. Biblically it's now 6000 years old.

If you see a part of the Bible, don't just interpret the single verse but understand the background of the story. Jesus was describing heaven to those He was teaching here.

Padipadi:
Those with good deeds before Christ are going to Aljanah Firdaus.

The story of life after death is deep. There is a place of hibernation for saints before judgement day. See
Luke 16:19-31. That is where those mentioned in John 3:13 went to.

People have been dying since time of Adam and the world hasn't ended. Biblically it's now 6000 years old.

If you see a part of the Bible, don't just interpret the single verse but understand the background of the story. Jesus was describing heaven to those He was teaching here.

But that same place that Luke 16:19-31 talks about is called hades in greek the equivalent of sheol in Hebrew. Ecclesiastes 9:10 says that there is no consciousness in sheol. So why the contradiction?
Ecclesiastes 9:10 is below.

Smith's Literal Translation
All which thy hand shall find to do, with thy strength, do thou; for no work and understanding and knowledge and wisdom, in hades where thou goest there.

Amplified Bible
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might; for there is no activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol (the nether world, the place of the dead) where you are going.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell, whither thou art hastening.

Luke 16:23
New King James Version
And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Truthseeker10:
But that same place that Luke 16:19-31 talks about is called hades in greek the equivalent of sheol in Hebrew. Ecclesiastes 9:10 says that there is no consciousness in sheol. So why the contradiction?
Ecclesiastes 9:10 is below.

Smith's Literal Translation
All which thy hand shall find to do, with thy strength, do thou; for no work and understanding and knowledge and wisdom, in hades where thou goest there.

Amplified Bible
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might; for there is no activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol (the nether world, the place of the dead) where you are going.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell, whither thou art hastening.

Luke 16:23
New King James Version
And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

To knowledgeable people on this forum reading this, you are just pulling legs. But let's say you aren't. That's why the writer is saying the story of life after death is deep. People have a place they go to before finally sojourning to Aljanah.
Abraham's blossom for the saints and Hades for those not found worthy. That is the explanation of that passage in Luke between the story of Richman and Lazarus.

You also typed referencing to biblical translations. That is another topic entirely. Bible was translated for easy grasping of any human to hear, read and understand.

Padipadi:
To knowledgeable people on this forum reading this, you are just pulling legs. But let's say you aren't. That's why the writer is saying the story of life after death is deep. People have a place they go to before finally sojourning to Aljanah.
Abraham's blossom for the saints and Hades for those not found worthy. That is the explanation of that passage in Luke between the story of Richman and Lazarus.

You also typed referencing to biblical translations. That is another topic entirely. Bible was translated for easy grasping of any human to hear, read and understand.

When Abraham died where did he go to, and where Is this Abraham's bosom located?

Hades or sheol is said to be a place of unconsciousness and where people go when they die in Ecclesiastics 9:10. Are you trying to say that Hades and sheol refers to two different locations?

Truthseeker10:
When Abraham died where did he go to, and where Is this Abraham's bosom located?

Hades or sheol is said to be a place of unconsciousness and where people go when they die in Ecclesiastics 9:10. Are you trying to say that Hades and sheol refers to two different locations?

Hades and Sheol meant the same thing. Hades was mentioned in New testament while Sheol was mentioned in old testament. Both has the good part for saints and the torment part for those unworthy.
Abraham's bossom is still same Sheol and Hades but the 5star luxury part.

These are informative excerpts to read https://thecripplegate.com/sheol-hades-and-gehenna-are-there-differences/

Padipadi:
Hades and Sheol meant the same thing. Hades was mentioned in New testament while Sheol was mentioned in old testament. Both has the good part for saints and the torment part for those unworthy.
Abraham's bossom is still same Sheol and Hades but the 5star luxury part.

These are informative excerpts to read https://thecripplegate.com/sheol-hades-and-gehenna-are-there-differences/

So Ecclesiastics 9:10 Is wrong for saying that there is no consciousness in sheol?

What part of a human goes to sheol to suffer or enjoy?

Truthseeker10:
So Ecclesiastics 9:10 Is wrong for saying that there is no consciousness in sheol?

What part of a human goes to sheol to suffer or enjoy?

Twist Bible from today till tomorrow, Allah wey write am go just dey look ya folly.

ECC 9:10 is first talking about saying do well on earth because there's nothing you can do again in Sheol.
As you dey whine God now, you are doing bad. If you get to Sheol with bad deeds wetin you gain Mr Truthseeker10?

Daejumong:
If you believe in God but don’t believe in Jesus , are you destined for Hell? What is the fate of Jews, Muslims, traditional worshippers,Buddhists and other religions?

The Jews believe in the God of Abraham,Moses and David but don’t believe in Jesus! Are they all destined for hell? Elijah and Abraham made heaven as Jews and not as Christians!

Even among Christians, there are so many divisions/factions and denominations with different beliefs about God and Jesus. Some of these denominations believe they are the only righteous ones going to heaven while others are going to hell!

At the end of the day, God is the final judge. Man and religion have differing opinions but God remains the final arbiter. ‘Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man’ (Eccl 12:13)

In conclusion, when Jesus was asked about the greatest commandment in Matt 22:36-40; Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.

Let peace reign and let’s stop fighting each other’s religion. Love God and love your neighbour, that is the ultimate divine instruction.

All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. This include Abraham, Enoch etc.
The whole human race has failed to meet God's demand as a result are all condemned to death.

The only way to be saved is look to God for his salvation, that is what Abraham, Enoch, Noah etc did anyone irrespective of tribe look for God to save them would be saved.
Jesus christ is God's salvation he became flesh, he is the one all who look for God was searching for.

Padipadi:
Twist Bible from today till tomorrow, Allah wey write am go just dey look ya folly.

ECC 9:10 is first talking about saying do well on earth because there's nothing you can do again in Sheol.
As you dey whine God now, you are doing bad. If you get to Sheol with bad deeds wetin you gain Mr Truthseeker10?

So wetin Ecclesiastics 9:10 talk say dey happen for sheol?

Truthseeker10:
So wetin Ecclesiastics 9:10 talk say dey happen for sheol?

Do well on earth befire getting to grave.

Daejumong:
If you believe in God but don’t believe in Jesus , are you destined for Hell? What is the fate of Jews, Muslims, traditional worshippers,Buddhists and other religions?

Whether you believe in God or not what matters first is conscience it's people around you that will inculcate in you the idea of a supreme being but if they failed to do so it's fine before God as long as your God's given conscience is at work you have no problem with God.

Daejumong:
The Jews believe in the God of Abraham,Moses and David but don’t believe in Jesus! Are they all destined for hell? Elijah and Abraham made heaven as Jews and not as Christians!

Heaven is not the place God prepared for humans so nobody has been there except Jesus who came from there {John 3:13} and he was not a human before then he became human to cohabit with humans because physical bodies have no business with heaven!

Daejumong:
Even among Christians, there are so many divisions/factions and denominations with different beliefs about God and Jesus. Some of these denominations believe they are the only righteous ones going to heaven while others are going to hell!

There's no division among true Christians we all have the same line of thought regarding what we must do to gain everlasting life! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Daejumong:
At the end of the day, God is the final judge. Man and religion have differing opinions but God remains the final arbiter. ‘Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man’ (Eccl 12:13)

The phrase "fear God" has been misconstrued so only those whose God's given conscience is active can fear God in the right sense.

Daejumong:
In conclusion, when Jesus was asked about the greatest commandment in Matt 22:36-40; Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.

Anyone who has not been taught by Jesus can never ever perfectly love his neighbour like himself.

Daejumong:
Let peace reign and let’s stop fighting each other’s religion. Love God and love your neighbour, that is the ultimate divine instruction.

There can't be peace if there is disunity that's why it's important to figure out the religion that's doing God's will! Matthew 7:21-23

Padipadi:
Do well on earth befire getting to grave.

So it is grave that I am going to. So people in the grave are enjoying and suffering?

Truthseeker10:
So it is grave that I am going to. So people in the grave are enjoying and suffering?

In some translations it's grave. In some it's sheol. One of the reason you are trolling, asking JAMB questions is because you refused to realize Bible was interpreted to different languages for easy grasping. It was also written by many prophets and collated by many people. But in all there is only one message in it. A connector to the Creator and a message of salvation.
Your questions were well answered. In the name of Allah, let there be peace in the world.
Arguing over religion won't solve poverty.
Let respect be reciprocal.

Padipadi:
In some translations it's grave. In some it's sheol. One of the reason you are trolling, asking JAMB questions is because you refused to realize Bible was interpreted to different languages for easy grasping. It was also written by many prophets and collated by many people. But in all there is only one message in it. A connector to the Creator and a message of salvation.
Your questions were well answered. In the name of Allah, let there be peace in the world.
Arguing over religion won't solve poverty.
Let respect be reciprocal.

🤣🤣🤣So inside grave is where people are enjoying and suffering? Na wa oo.....so is it the human flesh that is buried in the grave that enjoys and suffer?

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣So inside grave is where people are enjoying and suffering? Na wa oo.....so is it the human flesh that is buried in the grave that enjoys and suffer?

All that was written above will be read worldwide. The shame is on you for all to see ya mentãl illnëss in deliberately bringing provocation. Respect yaself and whatever you practice.

Padipadi:
All that was written above will be read worldwide. The shame is on you for all to see ya mentãl illnëss in deliberately bringing provocation. Respect yaself and whatever you practice.

🤣🤣🤣na wa oo.....so people are enjoying and suffering in the grave. 🤣🤣

Daejumong:
If you believe in God but don’t believe in Jesus , are you destined for Hell? What is the fate of Jews, Muslims, traditional worshippers,Buddhists and other religions?

The Jews believe in the God of Abraham,Moses and David but don’t believe in Jesus! Are they all destined for hell? Elijah and Abraham made heaven as Jews and not as Christians!

Even among Christians, there are so many divisions/factions and denominations with different beliefs about God and Jesus. Some of these denominations believe they are the only righteous ones going to heaven while others are going to hell!

At the end of the day, God is the final judge. Man and religion have differing opinions but God remains the final arbiter. ‘Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man’ (Eccl 12:13)

In conclusion, when Jesus was asked about the greatest commandment in Matt 22:36-40; Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.

Let peace reign and let’s stop fighting each other’s religion. Love God and love your neighbour, that is the ultimate divine instruction.

any "religion" that denies that only God the creator of heaven and earth is God is not of God and anyone that disbelieves that God will send and has sent his son to save is not of God.

Those men you mentioned, believed and waited for the coming Messiah, Abraham, Elijah, Moses. They waited for salvation from God, some saw it and spoke about it like David and some heard about it and waited like prophetess Anna.


And while I agree it's not about religion, be you Islam, Christian, Buddhist or whatever has long as you obey God and do His will you will be saved but we should also note it is not God's will for us to serve idols, demons or false gods. Even in all this God judges our hearts and our acts. Everyone who is of God will be brought to the true Jesus, no matter where they are or were they were born or grew up. Not one of God's chosen ones will perish, not one will.

Expanse2020:
It always amused me after how we try that you should not end up in hell but you fail to see the truth... Jesus himself is a Jew ND a rabbi why did you want to die on a wrong path.. Jesus didn't know anything about Christianity

How or what does Jesus nationality as a Jew and occupation as a teacher have anything to do why anyone wants to die on a wrong path?

Truthseeker10:
If Abraham and Elijah went to heaven, explain Jesus words in John 3:13.

there's paradise where Lazarus meet Abraham when he died, but honestly Jesus was saying he will return to heaven. So it's not like there's no one in heaven.

Truthseeker10:
But that same place that Luke 16:19-31 talks about is called hades in greek the equivalent of sheol in Hebrew. Ecclesiastes 9:10 says that there is no consciousness in sheol. So why the contradiction?
Ecclesiastes 9:10 is below.

Smith's Literal Translation
All which thy hand shall find to do, with thy strength, do thou; for no work and understanding and knowledge and wisdom, in hades where thou goest there.

Amplified Bible
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might; for there is no activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol (the nether world, the place of the dead) where you are going.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell, whither thou art hastening.

Luke 16:23
New King James Version
And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

lol did the rich man find work in Hades so that he can buy water or was there wisdom for him to quench his thirst or knowledge of where he can get the water. It's clear ignorance and foolishness dwells there.

Don't know where you got the no consciousness from

Truthseeker10:
When Abraham died where did he go to, and where Is this Abraham's bosom located?

Hades or sheol is said to be a place of unconsciousness and where people go when they die in Ecclesiastics 9:10. Are you trying to say that Hades and sheol refers to two different locations?

the Hebrew words used in eccl 9:10 dont have unconsciousness as a meaning o

And there are those who sleep and those who die and go to the grave/hell/hades

Padipadi:
Hades and Sheol meant the same thing. Hades was mentioned in New testament while Sheol was mentioned in old testament. Both has the good part for saints and the torment part for those unworthy.
Abraham's bossom is still same Sheol and Hades but the 5star luxury part.

These are informative excerpts to read https://thecripplegate.com/sheol-hades-and-gehenna-are-there-differences/

Abraham's blossom was not the same sheol/Hades.

Jesus said God is the God of the living, so why are you now saying that they were among the "dead"
Luke.20.38 So he is the God of the living, not the dead. They are all alive to him."

Truthseeker10:
So Ecclesiastics 9:10 Is wrong for saying that there is no consciousness in sheol?

What part of a human goes to sheol to suffer or enjoy?

please which of these words are tthey or you translating as consciousness
Is it cheshbon, maaseh, chokmah or daath?

gohf:
please which of these words are tthey or you translating as consciousness
Is it cheshbon, maaseh, chokmah or daath?

Ecclesiastics 9:5 below

Douay-Rheims Bible
For the living know that they shall die, but the dead know nothing more, neither have they a reward any more: for the memory of them is forgotten.