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Prophit:
So consciousness created the universe?

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sonmvayina:
The story actually started when Moses was born. Taking a single text out of the narrative will distort the flow.
The story of Moses and the Israelites is about moving from slavery(ignorance of self/self enlightenment) to the promised land (self awareness/higher consciousness). Everything from the beginning to the end is happening within. God is the universal divine consciousness. The stories are not literal. They are allegories. The letter killeth, the spirit giveth life. The spiritual message in the story is what gives life.
Most times here, I drop divine knowledge and most people resist it. It is their higher self(God consciousness) hardening the heart of pharaoh lower self(the ego).

The Torah is the most beautiful literature I have beheld.

it is a beautiful imaginative story to you in your fairyland consciousness
Reality check, the stories are real

You are dropping divine or demonic knowledge here, thank God people resist it. You are deceiving yourself and want others to be deceived as well?

johnydon22:
In the Bible, you could find instances of Yahweh being many things, often times contradictory. In one instance, he would be a vengeful, jealous, anger-prone, and downright vindictive deity yet on the very next book, he'd be described as merciful without bounds.

In another, he would be hateful to those who don't worship him, recommend death for heresy and apostasy and command genocide for nations that worship other Gods yet on the very next book, he would be described as loving without conditions.

These features may be confusing as they in fact contradict each other, but it begins to make more sense when you understand the evolution of Yahweh as a character. The Yahweh of Peganic Yahwehism is different from that of Apocalyptic Yahwehism and that is also different from that of Talmudic Judaism and eventually different from Christian Yahweh.

The reason why Yahweh possess so many contradicting traits in the old testament is because they were describing completely different Gods.
Yahweh was a storm and war God initially, not unlike the god Ba'al - they were youthful deities. No other God had as much influence in the Yahwehic cult through antiquity like Ba'al - Yahweh ultimately assimilated feats of Ba'al like in Psalm 29 which is originally an old Canaanite poem for Ba'al that the Hebrews repurposed for Yahweh.

When Yahweh is described as this compassionate fatherly figure in the old testament, such a person is likely describing a later conception of Yahweh that had incorporated the characteristics of El the chief God of the Canaanite pantheon.

Yahweh the strong wrathful storm God is an older idea to Yahweh the fatherly compassionate wise God.

So, most often when these features contradict, the writer of these respective parts were imagining a Yahweh that was different from the other. The hot-headed storm deity that theologically competed with Ba'al or the fatherly compassionate El elevated to the Chief amongst every other God.

In this very evolution of the Jewish religion from Pegan Yahwehism to Aocalyptic Yahwehsim to Talmudic Judaism, you could see how the bible went from admitting the existence of other Gods, to admitting that Yahweh would defeat and judge them to ultimately denying their existence entirely.

Yahweh as a deity has gone through tremendous evolution and as a matter of fact is still evolving

So different people cannot paint the same picture that's covered with a veil in different ways? For you to say that no it's not the painters but what they are painting that evolves. 😮‍💨

kingxsamz:
Yeah, such a loving god. ❤️ Didn't take out the person causing the problem but a bunch of kids that had nothing to do with it.

do you know what vengeance is, ah you don't, you see God is a God of vengeance if you kill other People's children, He will kill us and still punish you for what you have done.


If you think you can do evil and get away with it, well vengeance exists.

gohf:
it is a beautiful imaginative story to you in your fairyland consciousness
Reality check, the stories are real

You are dropping divine or demonic knowledge here, thank God people resist it. You are deceiving yourself and want others to be deceived as well?

It is God hardening their heart....

To their own distraction...

kingxsamz:
Lol, yeye point. All the Israelites that were freed are where today? Dead and gone. Maybe he should have just let the Israelites suffer in slavery since they were going to dle someday anyway.

Naaaaaaaaah the sovereignty of His name has been proved throughout the earth that's why the name of no other God has weight like the name of the God of Abraham in the minds of many people including atheists like you!

gohf:
so my consciousness is God 🙄😮‍💨

Yes...when you expire, it goes back into the universe..

gohf:
you are here? Didn't hear from you again after answering your questions

Where??

I told you that the son in Isaiah 9:6 has already been born...you are lying there through every opening in your body...

sonmvayina:
Where??

I told you that the son in Isaiah 9:6 has already been born...you are lying there through every opening in your body...

you told who what? What are you talking about about 🙄, is your consciousness speaking to you again

kingxsamz:
What's now the difference between your god and a cultist?
Egyptians drowned kids so your god responded by kiIIing kids. Same kids you people claim are dear to him?
So what's now the moral lesson? Do me I do you?

And the funny thing is even you wouldn't imagine Jesus kiIIing chiIdren for the crimes of their tribe members, because you feel he's better than that. And that goes to show you how much of a rubbish contradiction the whole of the bible is.

There's no point arguing with you, even if I should open the bible verse on top your head nothing would be implanted into your soul.

The bible has warned us to refrained from empty talks and arguments.

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaah the sovereignty of His name has been proved throughout the earth that's why the name of no other God has weight like the name of the God of Abraham in the minds of many people including atheists like you!

Yeah we know. Your god is a sadist and a tyrant. If he does not waste many lives to feel powerful, the werey fit die.

Ginaz:
There's no point arguing with you, even if I should open the bible verse on top your head nothing would be implanted into your soul.

The bible has warned us to refrained from empty talks and arguments.

It's not as if you have anything to say in the first place. You should have just taken your advice instead of replying .

gohf:
do you know what vengeance is, ah you don't, you see God is a God of vengeance if you kill other People's children, He will kill us and still punish you for what you have done.


If you think you can do evil and get away with it, well vengeance exists.

Yeah I know, your god is a tyrant.
"do me I do you" god.
The one who shows power by kiIIing children.
But yet Satan is the bad guy here.

Digitmktguru:
"If God is love, why did He harden Pharaoh's heart in Exodus 9:12?"
i will be glad if you can give me biblical explanation to this?

If you will take time to study the Bible,, all these questions you ask are unnecessary.

kingxsamz:
Yeah I know, your god is a tyrant.
"do me I do you" god.
The one who shows power by kiIIing children.
But yet Satan is the bad guy here.

well between a powerful "tyrant" and a bad guy who does common sense say you should side with

When Christians say “god is love”, they are not referring to the Hebrew god but another one, that most of their leaders don’t know about talk less of them.

sonmvayina:
Yes...when you expire, it goes back into the universe..

oga talk about yourself, when you sonmvayina expire it goes back into the universe

kingxsamz:
Yeah we know. Your god is a sadist and a tyrant. If he does not waste many lives to feel powerful, the werey fit die.

Do you know any God whose name was mentioned in ancient times that's still in operation today?
Even if you know they have become like nothing besides the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Why?
Because He used what you guys are saying today to prove Himself greater than all other Gods.
So talk is cheap you can say whatever comes to your mouth Jehovah has been vindicated that's why you guys no matter how bitter you are with faith in God can't think of any other God aside Jehovah the ALMIGHTY GOD!

KnownUnknown:
When Christians say “god is love”, they are not referring to the Hebrew god but another one, that most of their leaders don’t know about talk less of them.

Jehovah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is LOVE!

kingxsamz:
But yet Satan is the bad guy here.

YES!
Satan is the one responsible for what you guys are saying today because instead of asking thought provoking questions about the events you just want to shift blame without reasoning!

AbuTwins:
So what does Proverbs 19:21 below mean?
Many plans are in a man’s heart, but the purpose of the LORD will prevail.
And there are more below!
Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, to give you a future and a hope.
Isaiah 46:10
I declare the end from the beginning, and from ancient times what is still to come. I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and all My good pleasure I will accomplish.’
Ephesians 1:11
In Him we were also chosen as God’s own, having been predestined according to the plan of Him who works out everything by the counsel of His will,
Job 42:2
“I know that You can do all things and that no plan of Yours can be thwarted.
Psalm 33:10-11
The LORD frustrates the plans of the nations; He thwarts the devices of the peoples. / The counsel of the LORD stands forever, the purposes of His heart to all generations.
Isaiah 14:24
The LORD of Hosts has sworn: “Surely, as I have planned, so will it be; as I have purposed, so will it stand.
James 4:13-15
Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business, and make a profit.” / You do not even know what will happen tomorrow! What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. / Instead, you ought to say, “If the Lord is willing, we will live and do this or that.”
Psalm 115:3
Our God is in heaven; He does as He pleases.
Acts 5:38-39
So in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone. Let them go! For if their purpose or endeavor is of human origin, it will fail. / But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop them. You may even find yourselves fighting against God.”
Lamentations 3:37
Who has spoken and it came to pass, unless the Lord has ordained it?

Every single one of these verses when considered in the original context is directed back at the same people of Israel whose God— YHWH— raised a standard — Law— over them stipulating they can only reap what they sow meaning that nothing happens by chance to them as it will all be according to their deeds —choices and actions —as individuals as judged by the Law. This contravenes the ideas put forth by those who believe in destiny/fate.

kingxsamz:
It's not as if you have anything to say in the first place. You should have just taken your advice instead of replying .

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Even if I have everything to say, your empty soul can't comprehend it.

Ginaz:
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Even if I have everything to say, your empty soul can't comprehend it.

You have nothing to say. Rest!

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
Satan is the one responsible for what you guys are saying today because instead of asking thought provoking questions about the events you just want to shift blame without reasoning!

No, really. Tell me. Compared to all your god did, how is the Satan character in your bible the bad guy. I'd like to know.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know any God whose name was mentioned in ancient times that's still in operation today?
Even if you know they have become like nothing besides the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Why?
Because He used what you guys are saying today to prove Himself greater than all other Gods.
So talk is cheap you can say whatever comes to your mouth Jehovah has been vindicated that's why you guys no matter how bitter you are with faith in God can't think of any other God aside Jehovah the ALMIGHTY GOD!

Story. The only place your sky daddy is great is in the book of stories called bible.
Your imaginary friend has no real influence in real life.

gohf:
well between a powerful "tyrant" and a bad guy who does common sense say you should side with

None. I mean, does one have to side with Hitler because he was a powerful tyrant?
What kind of question is that?

kingxsamz:
None. I mean, does one have to side with Hitler because he was a powerful tyrant?
What kind of question is that?

my guy you are already under someone power, you live in a country ruled by others. It's not even up to the weak to pick who rules them, is it?

kingxsamz:
Story. The only place your sky daddy is great is in the book of stories called bible. Your imaginary friend has no real influence in real life.

Yet you can't stop talking about what He did!

kingxsamz:
No, really. Tell me. Compared to all your god did, how is the Satan character in your bible the bad guy. I'd like to know.

It has to do with INTELLIGENCE so make your mind over to learn!
The Bible Author introduced Himself to mankind through the first five books.
He started saying He created everything both visible and invisible then the next chapter is about how humans had two genders next He explained how the first human couple were misled to rebel against Him.
Satan kept quiet because there is nothing tangible he could say to refute everything the Bible God said, all what Satan does is to hide behind human rulers to force people into doing what he wish.
That's why the Bible God allowed Satan to rule the whole earth but kept only one nation and gave them His laws to set them apart from all other nations.
Satan knew very well that with this single nation people the world over will realize that the standard God set for the Israelites is second to none so Satan started raising different nations to attack Israel.
Go and read the history of nations back then try to reason with their way of punishing wrongdoers then you will know what evil Satan infused in their hearts!

kingxsamz:
You have nothing to say. Rest!

You seek knowledge but don't have the capacity to understand. Isn't it a waste of time to keep talking to a rock head?

Kobojunkie:
Every single one of these verses when considered in the original context is directed back at the same people of Israel whose God— YHWH— raised a standard — Law— over them stipulating they can only reap what they sow meaning that nothing happens by chance to them as it will all be according to their deeds —choices and actions —as individuals as judged by the Law. This contravenes the ideas put forth by those who believe in destiny/fate.

I don't think we are discussing who the texts are being directed to but about destiny/fate!

And it is sure clear from the verses. So stop avoiding the evident!

Ginaz:
You seek knowledge but don't have the capacity to understand. Isn't it a waste of time to keep talking to a rock head?

There's nothing to understand when you have nothing to say. Have a good day.