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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:20pm On Jan 29, 2025
bemeruca:
My old galaxy s10.

My company gave me the S24 ultra 😅
bemeruca:
Aside from that you pay more when you financing (interest rate). I saved a lot of cash buying my Samsung S24 ultra outright rather than financing. My credit limit is high but who cares.
Benalvino, I thought you are a Christian? MAGAs and lies are like 5 and 6
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:26pm On Jan 29, 2025
raumdeuter:
This is what democrats want increased taxes everytime
But republicans are increasing the taxes. What are you even saying? Trump’s tax plan increases taxes for everyone under $360k a year.

And his first tenure too. Taxes went up for all regular folks.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:32pm On Jan 29, 2025
cococandy:
But republicans are increasing the taxes. What are you even saying? Trump’s tax plan increases taxes for everyone under $360k a year.

And his first tenure too. Taxes went up for all regular folks.
You are being lied to as far as I can tell about tax hikes for everyone.

Did you ever get a tax cut from Trump in his first term by the way?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:33pm On Jan 29, 2025
cococandy:
But republicans are increasing the taxes. What are you even saying? Trump’s tax plan increases taxes for everyone under $360k a year.

And his first tenure too. Taxes went up for all regular folks.
No it didnt.

Thats the table for the taxes in his first term. Cuts for most people

https://taxpolicycenter.org/sites/default/files/2.9.3_tab1.png

https://taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/how-did-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act-change-personal-taxes
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:38pm On Jan 29, 2025
basilico:
You are being lied to as far as I can tell about tax hikes for everyone.

Did you ever get a tax cut from Trump in his first term by the way?
My taxes went up the first time Trump went into office. And he’s proposing to extend the same individual tax rates which are set to expire this year but cut taxes for corporations and billionaires from 21% to 15%.

Usually people can deduct things like child care or home renovations etc from their taxes. I was not able to do either when Trump passed his first tax laws because he changed the things that people can deduct. He also reduced child tax credit. A lot of people who usually didn’t owe taxes after filing were owing when tax season came.

Stick to your own personal taxes wherever it is you live. You’re not the one paying my taxes so you don’t tell me what I paid or didn’t pay.

I’m being lied to by who? By my bank account that knows what went in and out of it?

Why dont you come and educate me on what’s happening in my life? Ugh you are very irritating.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:41pm On Jan 29, 2025
When you give a $500 tax cut but the family doesn’t get to deduct as much expenses they normally would, then they owe money because the IRS said they underpaid. Is that a tax cut?

You know what you are doing. Stop it.


raumdeuter:
No it didnt.

Thats the table for the taxes in his first term. Cuts for most people

https://taxpolicycenter.org/sites/default/files/2.9.3_tab1.png

https://taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/how-did-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act-change-personal-taxes
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:46pm On Jan 29, 2025
cococandy:
My taxes went up the first time Trump went into office. And he’s proposing to extend the same individual tax rates which are set to expire this year but cut taxes for corporations and billionaires from 21% to 15%.

Usually people can deduct things like child care or home renovations etc from their taxes. I was not able to do either when Trump passed his first tax laws because he changed the things that people can deduct. He also reduced child tax credit. A lot of people who usually didn’t owe taxes after filing were owing when tax season came.
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You have a right to your own opinion but not your own facts

Under the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, the child tax credit has been capped at $2,000 per eligible child, double that of the 2016 tax year. During the pandemic, that figure was up to $3,600.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/child-tax-credit-donald-trump-b2684337.html
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:48pm On Jan 29, 2025
cococandy:
When you give a $500 tax cut but the family doesn’t get to deduct as much expenses they normally would, then they owe money because the IRS said they underpaid. Is that a tax cut?

You know what you are doing. Stop it.
Every family has its own specific circumstances. Generally he cut taxes for most people and increased the child tax credit to $2000
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:52pm On Jan 29, 2025
Ibime:
Benalvino, I thought you are a Christian? MAGAs and lies are like 5 and 6
Shush, allow me to troll in peace. 😂😂🤣🤣
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 7:52pm On Jan 29, 2025
raumdeuter:
The govt did not impregnate anyone or force anyone to birth children. You decided to have a child because you can take care of it, Did you give birth for govt?

You are not forced to have kids. They have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Not for govt to fend for you while taking from others to do that

It is what destroyed other communist economies and thats why people flee to America
Whether the Govt contributed to a child's birth is irrelevant, Every Govt has a duty to care for it's citizens. The fact that a child was born by careless or poor parent doesn't make the child lesser citizen.

Keep throwing the word socialism/communism like your lord, Trump, thinking that will make Govt caring and supporting it's citizens a crime. So other Developed countries doing these things are communist countries right? UK do these basic things for her citizes and I never know UK is a communist country.

How I wish I have the power to give you MAGA a separate country and we see the outcome... Already many of the Red states are backward compare to blue states in US.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:55pm On Jan 29, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
Whether the Govt contributed to a child's birth is irrelevant, Every Govt has a duty to care for it's citizens. The fact that a child was born by careless or poor parent doesn't make the child lesser citizen.

Keep throwing the word socialism/communism like your lord, Trump, thinking that will make Govt caring and supporting it's citizens a crime. So other Developed countries doing these things are communist countries right? UK do these basic things I never know UK is a communist country.

How I wish I have the power to give you MAGA a separate country and we see the outcome... Already many of the Red states are backward compare to blue states in US.
This govt duty to care where do they get the money from? Is it not from people in form of taxes? Why should people have to pay more taxes to cater for someone elses child?

Is it okay to ask someone who decided to have no child because he doesnt want to pay for children and force him to pay for those who decided to have kids?

You keep saying govt like say govt will pluck the money from the sky. If govt will get the money without taxing other people then no problem

Americans and people all over the world know the disaster that is called communism, Its why people from communist countries flee from it
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 7:56pm On Jan 29, 2025
grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:00pm On Jan 29, 2025
bemeruca:
Shush, allow me to troll in peace. 😂😂🤣🤣
What's the punchline? I can't even tell Samsung from Motorola
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:15pm On Jan 29, 2025
Who is the bot dealing with 🤣🤣
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:15pm On Jan 29, 2025
raumdeuter:
Every family has its own specific circumstances. Generally he cut taxes for most people and increased the child tax credit to $2000
I like where this is going. Raum .. go on.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 8:19pm On Jan 29, 2025
raumdeuter:
This govt duty to care where do they get the money from? Is it not from people in form of taxes? Why should people have to pay more taxes to cater for someone elses child?

Is it okay to ask someone who decided to have no child because he doesnt want to pay for children and force him to pay for those who decided to have kids?

You keep saying govt like say govt will pluck the money from the sky. If govt will get the money without taxing other people then no problem
It only requires adjustment or a change in Govt spending priorities.

When there is a crime surge and Govt has to spend more money on keeping inmates, where do they get the money from? The money to take care of these things we are arguing about will be gotten from the same account. I prefer to call it commonwealth account because it belongs to all.

A wise and responsible Govt will rather invest on its children, thereby increasing the capacity of getting more taxes in the future for the commonwealth purse than plan to spend more on crime management in the future.

And no 2 families benefit equally from Govt., but why bother who benefits more now, as long as same Govt will care and protect the other if the need arise for me. That is a functional decent society not a MAGA society.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:26pm On Jan 29, 2025
Ibime:
What's the punchline? I can't even tell Samsung from Motorola
You be iPhone guy. I remembered hacking your phone once n realize you are using iPhone 7 or so on Vodafone network. That's around 2021. You Don change am? 😂😂😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:40pm On Jan 29, 2025
cococandy e be like say the system mean you today
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:41pm On Jan 29, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
It only requires adjustment or a change in Govt spending priorities.

When there is a crime surge and Govt has to spend more money on keeping inmates, where do they get the money from? The money to take care of these things we are arguing about will be gotten from the same account. I prefer to call it commonwealth account because it belongs to all.

A wise and responsible Govt will rather invest on its children, thereby increasing the capacity of getting more taxes in the future for the commonwealth purse than plan to spend more on crime management in the future.

And no 2 families benefit equally from Govt., but why bother who benefits more now, as long as same Govt will care and protect the other if the need arise for me. That is a functional decent society not a MAGA society.
What should govt take money from currently as it is. They either have to take money from something to give to what you want.

And taking taxes people who cared for their own kids to cater for people who dont want to care for their own kids is wrong
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:44pm On Jan 29, 2025
cococandy:
My taxes went up the first time Trump went into office. And he’s proposing to extend the same individual tax rates which are set to expire this year but cut taxes for corporations and billionaires from 21% to 15%.

Usually people can deduct things like child care or home renovations etc from their taxes. I was not able to do either when Trump passed his first tax laws because he changed the things that people can deduct. He also reduced child tax credit. A lot of people who usually didn’t owe taxes after filing were owing when tax season came.

Stick to your own personal taxes wherever it is you live. You’re not the one paying my taxes so you don’t tell me what I paid or didn’t pay.

I’m being lied to by who? By my bank account that knows what went in and out of it?

Why dont you come and educate me on what’s happening in my life? Ugh you are very irritating.
At least you have a reason why Trump cuts affected you negatively. child tax credits were reduced and Family.
Our resident idiot doesn't have family despite him approaching andropause. He won't answer whether he got a tax cut
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 8:56pm On Jan 29, 2025
raumdeuter:
This govt duty to care where do they get the money from? Is it not from people in form of taxes? Why should people have to pay more taxes to cater for someone elses child?

Is it okay to ask someone who decided to have no child because he doesnt want to pay for children and force him to pay for those who decided to have kids?

You keep saying govt like say govt will pluck the money from the sky. If govt will get the money without taxing other people then no problem

Americans and people all over the world know the disaster that is called communism, Its why people from communist countries flee from it
The Pentagon's budget is nearly $900bn a year. The US does not need to tax a single soul to take care of its citizens. It is just a complex state of warmongers and corrupt politicians, that rely on the radicalisation of people like you.

There is no requirement for a $830bn a year on defence.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:58pm On Jan 29, 2025
raumdeuter:
How many people on here do you see saving other peoples pictures except for toddlers and professional notice me like you
I don't think you understand how forums work.
The pictures are in this thread.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:03pm On Jan 29, 2025
nateevs:
The Pentagon's budget is nearly $900bn a year. The US does not need to tax a single soul to take care of its citizens. It is just a complex state of warmongers and corrupt politicians, that rely on the radicalisation of people like you.

There is no requirement for a $830bn a year on defence.
Defence is why everyone is safe and not overrun by enemies right now. When you are the Greatest country in the world, you will have enemies who are working day and night to bring you down. Defence brings safe society which enables everyone to go out make a living and contribute to the economy. How much has been done in Ukrainian economy for example since the war started?

Defence budget is why Russia has not overrun Europe. I would think Europeans like you would be more grateful for saving them from the Putin war machine

Take away that defence budget and you would be speaking Russian right now
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:09pm On Jan 29, 2025
bemeruca:
You be iPhone guy. I remembered hacking your phone once n realize you are using iPhone 7 or so on Vodafone network. That's around 2021. You Don change am? 😂😂😂
Bitch ãss nigga! Your village people done send you work. I have never been in Apple ecosystem, I be Google cultist. Even one iPhone wey my work give me, I throw am inside drawer and never used it. I still use my personal number if colleagues need to reach me. God only gave me 2 pockets, left pocket for my wallet and right pocket for my phone. I downloaded all those Outlook, Teams, VPN authenticator on my personal phone rather than use work phone. If I carry two phones, I will be confused and lose one.

For personal phone, I use a Redmi and I think it was Motorola before that. Conspicuous consumption is not my thing. Ontop that, Vodafone no dey work for my village. May God forgive you for whoevers phone you hacked.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m):
raumdeuter:
Defence budget is why Russia has not overrun Europe. I would think Europeans like you would be more grateful for saving them from the Putin war machine

Take away that defence budget and you would be speaking Russian right now
This is what the likes of Marco Rubio want you to think. If you think that Russia is capable of overrunning the UK, Germany and France alone, even without the help of the US, then you are either overstating Russia's intent in a bid to perpetuate these ridiculous DOD spendings, or you know nothing about anything.

These are Nuclear Nations. Do you think Putin invades Germany, France and the UK without M.A.D? You think Putin is that stupid in ambition?

You have the Military Industrial Complex pumping money into politics, sponsoring elections, and subsequently, dictating the resolution of all Chambers of the Legislature, and you think one small detail they forgot was to drop was a little bit of Propaganda iabout Russia's intent?

Is Russia also the reason for Billions of dollars expended on off-book programs, fraud and mismanagement that have made The Pentagon fail audit for 7 years in a row?

Imagine what you are saying..... it's Europe that is the cause of America being unable to take care of its citizens.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:20pm On Jan 29, 2025
raumdeuter:
Defence is why everyone is safe and not overrun by enemies right now. When you are the Greatest country in the world, you will have enemies who are working day and night to bring you down. Defence brings safe society which enables everyone to go out make a living and contribute to the economy. How much has been done in Ukrainian economy for example since the war started?

Defence budget is why Russia has not overrun Europe. I would think Europeans like you would be more grateful for saving them from the Putin war machine

Take away that defence budget and you would be speaking Russian right now
Be quiet, Russia can't even overrun Poland on a normal day talkless of Europe. E get why Finland and Sweden ran to UK for security guarantee. All that spend is for USAs Pacific adventures, that's why they asked NATO to handle Europe while they handle Pacific. Your allies in Pacific no get levels (Japan, Korea and Phillipines) and you are serving as their Navy, Army and Airforce there. Europe can handle its area very well.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:20pm On Jan 29, 2025
raumdeuter:
cococandy e be like say the system mean you today
They banned me and my kitchen account. I’m not sure if you can even read this. I had a whole response typed out for you. 😫😫
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:21pm On Jan 29, 2025
nateevs:
The Pentagon's budget is nearly $900bn a year. The US does not need to tax a single soul to take care of its citizens. It is just a complex state of warmongers and corrupt politicians, that rely on the radicalisation of people like you.

There is no requirement for a $830bn a year on defence.
How else are we going to maintain our 250 military bases around the world? 😬
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:22pm On Jan 29, 2025
bemeruca:
Who is the bot dealing with 🤣🤣
Me. But I’m back. I hope
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