₦airaland Forum

casualobserver:
That’s not the rules, you don’t invent the rules in the middle of the game because it didn’t work for you, That is why you are required to win 25% in 2/3rds of states. Shagari did. It win the majority vote, neither did Balewa. Stop acting like democracy was invented in 2023.

That's why there is always room for amendments. You should always work towards a more perfect system.

Nigeria is not the only country with more than 2 major parties and all such countries have the runoff option available to ensure the President has a majority of votes

25% in 2/3 of states is to take care of the spread of the mandate such that no 3 or 4 states alone can produce a president. 25% is still a minority in terms of numbers

Since 1999, we have not had a situation where the winner had less than 50% votes. So it is not about working for me or not. I have not been the one winning elections since 1999. Buhari of APC won in 2015 and 2019 and no one raised the issue of minority votes. PDP was winning before that.

If you look at the 25% rule self, it took the SC to make a pronouncement to lay the matter to rest.

I pray PDP not only speak with him, but also hand him their ticket. He will regret the day he chose to go head-to-head with the master strategist. That will be the most easily won election in our history...only Atiku can match Tinubu toe-to-toe, not a rookie like Obi

casualobserver:
Would you be saying the same thing if your candidate got 9m votes and defeated Tinubu but did not get 50% of the overall votes? You people are just sore losers. You knew the rules before the election. You lost deal with it. More importantly, deal with the fact that you had 14m votes but your undemocracitc behavior caused to to split your votes into 3!


That’s the real problem of the opposition PDP (whether OBi, Atiku or Kwakwanso who are all PDP don’t gree for anybody disciples) not the rules of the election.

The problem with Nigerian opposition whether Kwakwanso, Obi or Atiku is they are not democrats by nature, they are PDP men and as such creations of the military and they are used to winning elections by rigging, not via strategy, unity, compromise and agreements that is why all of them are serial defectors! They have not weaned themselves of the impunity of the military, impunity, imposition mindset that birthed the PDP.

I don't belong to any political party. I am just a 40 year old Nigerian man intelligent enough to know that it's undemocratic and evil for the minority to decide leadership in a democracy.
It's just not right from any perspective.

APC is evil

Ojuntana:
That's why there is always room for amendments. You should always work towards a more perfect system.

Nigeria is not the only country with more than 2 major parties and all such countries have the runoff option available to ensure the President has a majority of votes

25% in 2/3 of states is to take care of the spread of the mandate such that no 3 or 4 states alone can produce a president. 25% is still a minority in terms of numbers

Since 1999, we have not had a situation where the winner had less than 50% votes. So it is not about working for me or not. I have not been the one winning elections since 1999. Buhari of APC won in 2015 and 2019 and no one raised the issue of minority votes. PDP was winning before that.

If you look at the 25% rule self, it took the SC to make a pronouncement to lay the matter to rest.

They have run offs not because the winner doesn’t have the majority vote but because the winner does not mean the condition. It is the same with Nigeria, if Tinubu did not get 25% in 2/3tds of states there would have been a run off. I challenge you to tell me a democracy that requires that you must have 50+% at the first vote or there will be a run off. Runoffs only happen if you are the winner but you don’t meet other criteria. It is the same in Nigeria. Our rules are copied.

KEVIND:
Its time to support Peter Obi.
Because the South East supported other regions in the past against their own.
*They Supported a Fulani man Shehu Shagari in 1979,
*They Supported a Yoruba man Olusegun Obasanjo in 1999 & 2003,
*They Supported Umar Musa Yar'adua a Fulani man in 2007,
*They Supported an Ijaw & Niger Delta man Goodluck Jonathan 2015.

If Peter Obi is not the Presidential candidate of any alliance, the South East will support & vote Tinubu in 2027.

Just support Tinubu now.

40yroldman:
I don't belong to any political party. I am just a 40 year old Nigerian man intelligent enough to know that it's undemocratic and evil for the minority to decide leadership in a democracy.
It's just not right from any perspective.

With due respect, I am not saying you are not but you are not displaying any intelligence here. All you have displayed is the typical Nigerian mindset of changing things because it didn’t deliver a desired result this time only to create another problem. Our real problem is because we are not democratic by nature and we find it hard to accept that we lost this time and we will try again next time. If you cannot accept a loss and feel you must change the rules or insult everybody in the process, all you display is you are not a democrat. You are only a democrat when you win.

I stress again PDP had 14m votes. Tinubu is not in power because he rigged or because of the rules, he is in power because PDP couldn’t agree amongst themselves and accept the loss of the PDP presidential ticket gallantly. Focusing on INEC, the election laws, he judiciary only serves to focus attention away from the real problem…the political actors who are fundamentally undemocratic and driven by ego and blind ambition to the point of bringing the whole house down.

The people you should focus your anger on are Atiku, Obi and Kwakwanso who destroyed the opposition PDP and snatched defeat from the jaws of a landslide victory. Your anger should be focused on Those 3 for allowing their egos to derail the will of the people. Like you said the people voted against APC but APC is in power because of the greed and ego of those 3 not because of the election laws. The more you blame Inec, judiciary, the election laws, the less likely those 3 are to own up and take responsibility for their blunder and work to make amends because they know you won’t blame them when in fact you should!

40yroldman:
In the last election, 13million Nigerians voted against Tinubu while only 8 million voted for him. This clearly shows that Nigerians rejected Tinubu.
Something should be done about our electoral laws where someone who lost majority votes will be declared winner. Tinubu lost 70% of the total votes cast yet he was declared winner.
This is not right.

What did your own senator and representative reply when you asked them to push for an amendment of the Electoral law to reflect this your brilliant idea? The idea that presidential and other positions should be won with 50% plus 1 vote in addition to other criteria of spread and majority.

40yroldman:
In the last election, 13million Nigerians voted against Tinubu while only 8 million voted for him. This clearly shows that Nigerians rejected Tinubu.
Something should be done about our electoral laws where someone who lost majority votes will be declared winner. Tinubu lost 70% of the total votes cast yet he was declared winner.
This is not right.

And 17m Nigerians rejected Peter Obi and Atiku respectively.


Now I have a question for you sir; who got rejected by Nigerians the most amongst the three major candidates that via for the 2023 presidential elections?

40yroldman:
In the last election, 13million Nigerians voted against Tinubu while only 8 million voted for him. This clearly shows that Nigerians rejected Tinubu.
Something should be done about our electoral laws where someone who lost majority votes will be declared winner. Tinubu lost 70% of the total votes cast yet he was declared winner.
This is not right.

Your arithmetic comprehension and application is very low.

Going by your submission, if 13m Nigerians voted against Tinubu, then a whooping 15m voters voted against Atiku, so also about 16m Nigerians voted against Peter Obi.

40yroldman:
I don't belong to any political party. I am just a 40 year old Nigerian man intelligent enough to know that it's undemocratic and evil for the minority to decide leadership in a democracy.
It's just not right from any perspective.

Is it undemocratic and evil for minority MPs and electoral college nominees to decide the Prime Minister in the UK and the President in the US?
Do you realise that Hillary Clinton had almost 3 million more popular votes than Trump

Speak with obi that betrayed pdp ba?

Ok pdp go and talk to obi I swear you just spoil the matter we will not still vote for pdp plus obi and we go still run the figures for him and Atiku, follow them up to Supreme court and disgrace them.

I have told pdp and LP its untill obi and Atiku are send out o that 2 party I swear they willl never win any election in Nigeri its a promise.

I have said it several time I'm a pdp ever since, I atikulated with all my strenght in 2019 but because the moment Buhai won in 2019 Atiku disappeared to Dubai and the entire country suffered immensely under Buhari this bloody Atiku never utter a word as opposition simply its Fulani affairs and now coming to tell me he is a saint, sorry no way.

Same is that idiot called obi no pim was heard from him Fulani nearly skinned us all alive but now coming out with his cat-voice and tell me oh I'm a saint shit, say who die?

No vacant in Aso Rock till 2031 or no election...

The disgrace loading in 2027 for obi will be like tsunami, anyway thank God obi already applied for secondary teaching job in Anambra to teach the innocent students how to lie, manipulate, play bigotry, play tribalism, play bully and insults, play terrorist sympathy, play greed, play fake saint, play drug trafficking and hide behind the curtain all these are the subjects he willl teach those student I think Soludo need to thoroughly screen his teaching job application.

Ojuntana:
The guy is very correct. The election should have gone to a runoff between the 1st and 2nd position

What is presently happening is rule of the minority over the majority

Going by your suggestion, I believe the person he's replying to will still have problems with it, because the person he voted for won't be on the second ballot. It won't make any difference, because the current president would still have won against atiku

casualobserver:
They have run offs not because the winner doesn’t have the majority vote but because the winner does not mean the condition. It is the same with Nigeria, if Tinubu did not get 25% in 2/3tds of states there would have been a run off. I challenge you to tell me a democracy that requires that you must have 50+% at the first vote or there will be a run off. Runoffs only happen if you are the winner but you don’t meet other criteria. It is the same in Nigeria. Our rules are copied.

That's the problem I usually have with a lot of NLanders. You guys simply take your bias and turn it to fact when you have google on your fingertips. The same energy you used to type that blatant falsehood is same energy you could have used to ask google.

Even Niger Republic here has majority votes in their laws. Bazoum had to go for a runoff because he did not win majority votes in the first ballot.
Of the 28 freest democracy, 21 have majority votes as a requirement for presidency.

https://fairvote.org/report/majority-rule-in-international-presidential-elections/

CEOwatazs:
And 17m Nigerians rejected Peter Obi and Atiku respectively.


Now I have a question for you sir; who got rejected by Nigerians the most amongst the three major candidates that via for the 2023 presidential elections?

As I mentioned before, this is why a runoff election is crucial. How can a candidate who gets only 30% of the total votes cast be declared the winner? That means the minority is deciding for the majority, it's undemocratic.

With the current system an unpopular candidate doesn’t even need widespread support—just a strategy to divide the opposition.
That’s why people accused Peter Obi and Atiku of secretly working in Tinubu’s favor by splitting votes in the last election.

The system needs to be restructured so politicians can't exploit it for their own benefit at the people’s expense.

Leobankx:
A member of the Peoples Democratic Party’s reconciliation committee, Eddy Olafeso, says that the party must speak with Labour Party Presidential candidate in 2023, Peter Obi and other opposition political party leaders for an alliance that will defeat the All Progressives Congress (APC) in 2027.


https://www.channelstv.com/2025/01/29/2027-pdp-must-speak-with-peter-obi-others-says-olafeso/

That's the only way to defeat APC

Any small reason to lavish money is what they are looking for

Despite been a good proposition , it might not work, as long as Money Bank Oga Wike is in the party, and Oga Fubara case with mandate lawmakers has not ended and even if it ended in his favour, he will be grateful to Mr President if he breath fresh air in peace and would want to show loyalty to him. So the most import thing is to go find funds to run the elections and ask your Governors to perform sterlingly, because the APC is ready to spend Bullion van to Bullion van ..

Ojuntana:
That's the problem I usually have with a lot of NLanders. You guys simply take your bias and turn it to fact when you have google on your fingertips. The same energy you used to type that blatant falsehood is same energy you could have used to ask google.

Even Niger Republic here has majority votes in their laws. Bazoum had to go for a runoff because he did not win majority votes in the first ballot.
Of the 28 freest democracy, 21 have majority votes as a requirement for presidency.

https://fairvote.org/report/majority-rule-in-international-presidential-elections/

Fair enough, that’s not the way ours works and it has never been that way in any democratic dispensation since 1960. The question thou* is why now? Is it the first time we have had a president or prime minister who didn’t win a majority vote?

Every country designs it’s electoral system according to its own unique peculiarities. I am sure the countries you cite do not have the ethnic colorations we do. Furthermore, a system such as what you propose simply means those in the majority will always dominate elections. For instance if the criteria is majority vote, then the North can simply band together and hold on to the presidency for life. Those who designed our constitution took into account the fact that we are a nation of tribes, that is why the requirement from independence has always been the winning vote and geographical spread.

Babangida tried a 2 party system to achieve what you describe but democracy is by nature a compromise. In a multiparty system in a country like Nigeria, requiring a majority vote will require the expense of conducting a rerun. You are the same people that will complain of the cost. Can we afford it?

40yroldman:
In the last election, 13million Nigerians voted against Tinubu while only 8 million voted for him. This clearly shows that Nigerians rejected Tinubu.
Something should be done about our electoral laws where someone who lost majority votes will be declared winner. Tinubu lost 70% of the total votes cast yet he was declared winner.
This is not right.

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣dey play. God bless President Bola Ahmed Tinubu GCFR for winning 2023 election with landslide victory. We are proud of him.
As many that don't want you to succeed, shall live to witness your tremendous achievements

DeOTR:
Going by your suggestion, I believe the person he's replying to will still have problems with it, because the person he voted for won't be on the second ballot. It won't make any difference, because the current president would still have won against atiku

It's not about who wins or not
It is disheartening to see young Nigerians unable to discuss issues without attachment to personalities
How are you guys even sure your interests align with these persons you are quick to defend?

Please someone should help me
I need a job please

Paraman:
The useless thing from Agulu will never become the president of Nigeria.

Poverty and anguish have damaged your medula. I feel sorry for your parents