₦airaland Forum

casualobserver:
Again I didn’t read your post because this is pointless and becoming tedious. Take your proposal to the National Assembly where change can happen and leave me in peace. I am not interested in endless and pointless back and forth.

If Tinubu loses the election in 2027 and allows charlatans like Atiku or Obi into Aso rock, I will blame him for whatever strategic errors he made (e.g alienating ElRufai) but not INEC, not judiciary, not the electoral laws.

Fell free to complain about zsomething you are powerless to affect

I am sure you will find someone here to pick up the baton of this pointless debate.

Have a good day!

But you quoted the other guy who made his opinion without quoting you. You sound like an hypocrite. When you knew the back and forth is pointless, why did you start the quote?

How is Atiku and Obi charlatan and Tinubu is not? I already knew you were an agbadorian clown with the way you were just lying and rambling unintelligently, making a discussion about law and processes an affair of personalities

And how are you empowered to make Tinubu not alienate ElRufai?

How is INEC and judiciary not complicit in the broken state of our electoral system

Abeg gnaw at your cob in peace and stop polluting the atmosphere with your silly rants

Paraman:
The useless thing from Agulu will never become the president of Nigeria.

someone that can make you useful.i know you don't have helmet

Leobankx:
A member of the Peoples Democratic Party’s reconciliation committee, Eddy Olafeso, says that the party must speak with Labour Party Presidential candidate in 2023, Peter Obi and other opposition political party leaders for an alliance that will defeat the All Progressives Congress (APC) in 2027.


https://www.channelstv.com/2025/01/29/2027-pdp-must-speak-with-peter-obi-others-says-olafeso/

Obi is a calamity for any party now, he is dangerous with ill motives which is clearer to Nigerians now. He is a liability no longer an asset. To think I was routing for the @$$høle before is incredible. 2023 election really revealed a lot.

Is pdp ready to do the right thing or do they just want to look for coalition to support atiku presidential aspirations or misadventures again?

40yroldman:
In the last election, 13million Nigerians voted against Tinubu while only 8 million voted for him. This clearly shows that Nigerians rejected Tinubu.
Something should be done about our electoral laws where someone who lost majority votes will be declared winner. Tinubu lost 70% of the total votes cast yet he was declared winner.
This is not right.

I don't see any defeat in 2027.

The key decider are already pocketed.


Once eyeneck and judiciary are on your side, the voters and their votes are inconsequential.

40yroldman:
In the last election, 13million Nigerians voted against Tinubu while only 8 million voted for him. This clearly shows that Nigerians rejected Tinubu.
Something should be done about our electoral laws where someone who lost majority votes will be declared winner. Tinubu lost 70% of the total votes cast yet he was declared winner.
This is not right.

So who should have been declared winner? The one with 5 million votes that 15million people rejected?
Which school una dey go sef

Paraman:
Peter obi the Agulu bastard will never become the president of Nigeria

What is the reason for your insult to a man with whom you have had no contact, and who has in no way insulted you or yours?.

Don't forget that Nigeria has a Cyber crime law.

Odin13:
Says a Yoruba being


Out of 400 tribes .. why he say na only Yoruba they sing this song ?


Bitterness and envy is evil

Why envy?What has he achieved that Yoruba man didn’t achieved ? I just want you to know that you can’t be loved by everyone whether you are Igbo or Yoruba or any tribe if I ask you now do you love Tinubu ? Even Jesus and Muhammad SAW didn’t loved by everyone

Wasky101:
So who should have been declared winner? The one with 5 million votes that 15million people rejected?
Which school una dey go sef

None of them will be declared winner. The first and second will go for a re run.
The school wey I go taught me how to critically analyze and evaluate systems to make them better

Elusive001:
I don't see any defeat in 2027.

The key decider are already pocketed.


Once eyeneck and judiciary are on your side, the voters and their votes are inconsequential.

This is not good for democracy

Paraman:
Peter obi the Agulu bastard will never become the president of Nigeria

But really if you’re educated, is this sentence necessary? This is one of the many reasons why me and many other sane people don’t visit this website anymore. Imagine me just opening this website and next thing I’m seeing this kind of gruesome uncensored comment. It’s crazy what this place I had turned into.

Paraman:
The joke is on you

are you tired? Continue na

IsraelSongz:
But really if you’re educated, is this sentence necessary? This is one of the many reasons why me and many other sane people don’t visit this website anymore. Imagine me just opening this website and next thing I’m seeing this kind of gruesome uncensored comment. It’s crazy what this place I had turned into.

When Obidients talk like this, nobody will call them to order but when the favour is returned people like you will start complaining

00FFT00:
What is the reason for your insult to a man with whom you have had no contact, and who has in no way insulted you or yours?.

Don't forget that Nigeria has a Cyber crime law.

People like you so see nothing wrong when obidients insult Tinubu, but when the favour is returned you hypocrites will come out

On what campaign promises will make them get the people's votes, because if I can recall it is the same policies both the Atiku and Obi promise to execute if voted for and that is fuel subsidy removal and floating of naira is what Tinubu is executing that has brought this hardship

Ojuntana:
I don't get your logic

How did 14m people vote against Obi and Atiku? I think it is the other way round

I was not necessarily referring to you in terms of interest. I was referring to the point you made about the guy. He is tentatively correct. what holds in Nigeria presently is a minority rule. If he is saying that because of Obi then he is wasting his time because Obi will not qualify for a run off given his numbers

One of the reasons why the APC is infiltrating and destabilizing the opposition is because they know how badly they are performing. Folks who blame Atiku and Obi for the state of the opposition fail to realize that they are the least of the problems. For example, after Pa Lamidi's claim to the chairmanship of LP was dispensed off by the courts, Abure started plotting how to retain the seat of party chair, which though legitimate was untenable giving the deluge of accusations against him.

Same goes for PDP. Wike has been instrumental in keeping Damagum on seat through the courts. The game is to ensure that the PDP remains incapable of getting itself back on track. Wike is at loggerheads with the PDP. Why is he still there? Is it not to ensure that the party does not have a chance at stability?

So if we keep focusing on personalities, we will always miss the big picture which is the attempt by APC to ensure that the opposition remains weak towards 2027. A weak opposition ensures they are less accountable to the electorates

The people that didn't vote for Obi either voted for Tinubu or Atiku. That's some 15m+ people. Same for Atiku. Or should we just ignore that and focus only on the winner?
If you vote for a certain candidate and he or she turned out to lose, you didn't essentially voted against the winner, you only voted for your desired candidate, otherwise, you might as well say you voted against every other contestants, since you have just one vote.
We have conditions for runoffs, the total number people who didn't vote for the winner is not one of them.
I don't think there's any deliberate attempts by the APC to destabilize oppositions, at least, not the PDP. We still have two former presidents who ran on the platform of the party. Maybe be their silence means Wike is doing something right.

DeOTR:
The people that didn't vote for Obi either voted for Tinubu or Atiku. That's some 15m+ people. Same for Atiku. Or should we just ignore that and focus only on the winner?
If you vote for a certain candidate and he or she turned out to lose, you didn't essentially voted against the winner, you only voted for your desired candidate, otherwise, you might as well say you voted against every other contestants, since you have just one vote.
We have conditions for runoffs, the total number people who didn't vote for the winner is not one of them.
I don't think there's any deliberate attempts by the APC to destabilize oppositions, at least, not the PDP. We still have two former presidents who ran on the platform of the party. Maybe be their silence means Wike is doing something right.

Seems you missed the class where it is taught that every election is a referendum on the party in power. It is either to renew their mandate or kick them out. So it is farfetched to say those who voted for Obi voted against Atiku. What are they voting against Atiku for? He is not in power is he?
I agree that we have conditions for runoff and we run a plurality system. But plurality breeds possibility of rule of the minority over the majority. That you cannot deny
Two former Presidents in PDP? Who and who? APC have been ensuring that opposition is destabilized. It did not start today. So they did in 2015. So they are still doing.

Paraman:
Peter obi the Agulu bastard will never become the president of Nigeria

Your likes will never be alive to see him rule Nigeria. Nobody has monopoly of madness here.

Ojuntana:
Seems you missed the class where it is taught that every election is a referendum on the party in power. It is either to renew their mandate or kick them out. So it is farfetched to say those who voted for Obi voted against Atiku. What are they voting against Atiku for? He is not in power is he?
I agree that we have conditions for runoff and we run a plurality system. But plurality breeds possibility of rule of the minority over the majority. That you cannot deny
Two former Presidents in PDP? Who and who? APC have been ensuring that opposition is destabilized. It did not start today. So they did in 2015. So they are still doing.

The definition of majority vote according to our constitution is a candidate having more votes than other individual contestants, not all of them combined. As long as the person with more votes satisfies the conditions for voters spread, he's the winner.
You're expecting too much if you think someone alive will win an election in today's Nigeria, with majority votes over the cumulative of all other contestants total votes, without daylight massive rigging.
It's fair enough that the winner must have at least, a quarter of the total votes cast in 2/3rd of states and the FCT.
Jonathan and Obj are still alive. Why are they on the sidelines watching how the party that gave them the platform to collapse?

DeOTR:
The definition of majority vote according to our constitution is a candidate having more votes than other individual contestants, not all of them combined. As long as the person with more votes satisfies the conditions for voters spread, he's the winner.
You're expecting too much if you think someone alive will win an election in today's Nigeria, with majority votes over the cumulative of all other contestants total votes, without daylight massive rigging.
It's fair enough that the winner must have at least, a quarter of the total votes cast in 2/3rd of states and the FCT.
Jonathan and Obj are still alive. Why are they on the sidelines watching how the party that gave them the platform to collapse?

Yeah I get that. But that is plurality not majority. That's the basic fact. ANd democracy is supposed to be the rule of the majority
Buhari won the majority of votes in 2015 as an opposition which I think means he couldn't have outrigged the sitting president
Jonathan might still be a member of PDP or not. He has not attended any PDP event since he left office
OBJ is no longer part of PDP

If Obi is not the presidential candidate. That alliance will not work.

tuoyoojo:
This would have worked in 2023 but with the firm grip of tilumbu on inec, judiciary and his moles in the opposition parties, any coalition now would not do much damage

Add that to the apathy that voters would display in 2027 after it was obvious that our votes didn't count in 2023

Voters do not determine election winners, voter counters does.

Nigeria will split before 2027

franudi:
IDIOT.

Seun Mynd44 nlfpmod fergie001

franudi has broken rule 2

saintkel:
I am a Peter Obi fan but don't drag d whole Yorubas to dis....Yorubas votes for Obi, and I sure do know they will still do so again....that few silly fellows insult him from that tribe doesn't make d whole race silly

nwokem allow the guy biko

...but yarobas drag the entire Igbos into their foolishness without restraint whenever they want to revel in their usual stupidity notwithstanding that we have score of Igbo people who support the useless government

In this jaw jaw , it is no holds barred

Paraman:
Seun Mynd44 nlfpmod fergie001

franudi has broken rule 2

coward

Very typical. They insult you first , when you return the favour they begin to cry wolf

Never seen such a pathetic tribe

meditator:
His father doesn't receive advice from a mad man. I'm sure his father prefers members of his community being educated than being drunk. I'm also certain that his father has no intention to wage religious war on Nigeria like the "yes Daddy" crooner.

Empty, senseless

Even the 8million was through rigging!

Tinubu is highly unpopular

40yroldman:
In the last election, 13million Nigerians voted against Tinubu while only 8 million voted for him. This clearly shows that Nigerians rejected Tinubu.
Something should be done about our electoral laws where someone who lost majority votes will be declared winner. Tinubu lost 70% of the total votes cast yet he was declared winner.
This is not right.