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Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:24pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
There is just one difference between a mad man and sane people:

The mad man believes he is all knowing and that sane people are all mad but for him to work with anyone, no way.

Sane people work together as a team as they are convinced that they are one body.

So present the church you attend if you're not like the mad man who feels he is all knowing without a team. cheesy
The same way Nazi citizens presented themselves as a nation. 🤕

Do you see how dumb you sound?
Size or quantity is not a variable for determining the truth🥲.

The truth is absolute.
At least wokeness has its own congregation but it doesn't mean it's right.

Are you this dumb?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:24pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Register for free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses or stick to what your pastors told you! wink
"What your pastors told you" - like you abi.

It's very evident
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 8:24pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
You brought up Greek words and meanings for your previous posit, I wonder why it's hard for you to do the same for this?

Look it up and tell me, do Angels have the same substance as God?

How has this simple question not been answered by two JW giants🤕?

🤧Am waiting
See Gabrielshow24 fear fear grin grin grin

Nah you dey shout "substance" upandan nau.

Oga show this forum the bible chapters/verses where Greek word for "substance" referenced God.

I'm asking again:
What do you understand as substance?


You no fit even attempt any explanation.
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:27pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
The same way Nazi citizens presented themselves as a nation. 🤕

Do you see how dumb you sound?
Size or quantity is not a variable for determining the truth🥲.

The truth is absolute.
At least wokeness has its own congregation but it doesn't mean it's right.

Are you this dumb?
Nazi are people from one country under a politician not Jehovah's Witnesses who are millions of people from different countries throughout the world!

Ọmọ that's what Jesus meant by the light of the world! Matthew 5:14-16 wink
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:27pm On Feb 01, 2025
Janosky:
See Gabrielshow24 fear fear grin grin grin

Nah you dey shout "substance" upandan nau.

Oga show this forum the bible chapters/verses where Greek word for "substance" referenced God.

I'm asking again:
What do you understand as substance?


You no fit even attempt any explanation.
Fear, contrary to your opinion.
I asked a simple question.

And you have provided me no answer🤕.
Substance - what aspect of substance don't you understand.

You have your usual concord use it.
The question isn't about any verse of substance but about Angels having the substance of God?

A simple yes or no will suffice 🤣.
So far you have been slithering like a snake trying to evade and avoid the question.

How pathetic
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:28pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
"What your pastors told you" - like you abi.
It's very evident
🤣🤣🤣🤣
So if you don't have a pastor that makes your argument irrelevant because it means each person is entitled to his personal opinion on all matters.
So why worry yourself about what others believe? cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:29pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Nazi are people from one country under a politician not Jehovah's Witnesses who are millions of people from different countries throughout the world!

Ọmọ that's what Jesus meant by the light of the world! Matthew 5:14-16 wink
Even Islam claims to be the light of the world. 🤕

What you wrote up there is just a claim.
It's not an absolute truth.

So you alluding to size as a precursor to truth is indeed vain.

I have illustrated a simple counter which shows you don't think before typing
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:31pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So if you don't have a pastor that makes your argument irrelevant because it means each person is entitled to his personal opinion on all matters.
So why worry yourself about what others believe? cheesy
Are you this dumb?
Is the matter about pastors? 🤣

Indeed they come dumb these days!!!
Is that the problem statement 😂😂?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:31pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Even Islam claims to be the light of the world. 🤕

What you wrote up there is just a claim.
It's not an absolute truth.

So you alluding to size as a precursor to truth is indeed vain.

I have illustrated a simple counter which shows you don't think before typing
So Muslims are disciples serving as WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace, shey? Act 1:8

Hilarious! cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:32pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Are you this dumb?
Is the matter about pastors? 🤣
Indeed they come dumb these days!!!
Is that the problem statement 😂😂?
You don't have a pastor so you should agree with whatever anyone says after all there is no need to agree.

Do you get it now? cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:34pm On Feb 01, 2025
The truth is absolute not subjective 😂.
It's a lesson I hoped you would have learnt from our previous engagement.

It just shows gigo- garbage in, garbage out.
No, self thought or reflection about the word of God.

No, application of rules of truth/logic to come to an absolute truth, just fallacies here and there.

False equivocations, fallacy of accidents etc.
Indeed you are light of the world!!!
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:37pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You don't have a pastor so you should agree with whatever anyone says after all there is no need to agree.

Do you get it now? cheesy
He even spoilt it the more 🤣🤣🤣.
😂😂😂 Pathetic attempt to prove a point.

Your propositions once again are in shambles. 🤧

Learn to think before typing.
I'm awaiting your colleague's burial.

Like I told you in our previous engagement.
You will show me the place to bury you - logically.
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:37pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
The truth is absolute not subjective 😂.
If i get you right Jesus is wrong claiming he is the TRUTH that everyone must be SUBJECTED to, right? John 14:6 cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 8:38pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Are you alluding to an article written as your absolute truth?

😂😂😂
Are you both this dumb?
So you want me to take a footnote written by some Dr. Spurgeon as a credence to your proposition.

What you commit here is "appeal to authority".

If you are familiar with cipolla's laws then you should know better🤧.
This is becoming pathetic 😂😂😂
Your fellow Trinitarians devotees & protestant Reformers, staunch Trinitarians led by the same ghost deity deceiving you, rejected your claims.


1599 Geneva Bible translated and published by your fellow Trinitarians.
Do I have to remind you that Geneva Bible is far older than your KJV?

Go and examine the Bible evidence for their beliefs that Jesus is archangel Michael.
Your WAILING upandan doesn't change the fact that your fellow Trinitarians devotees believed the doctrine you are denying.
The same ghost deity gives conflicting intel to Trinitarians.
😂😂😂
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:39pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If i get you right Jesus is wrong claiming he is the TRUTH that everyone must be SUBJECTED to, right? John 14:6 cheesy
😂😂😂
Don't push it, you're terrible at this.
Truth being objective applies to all.

Are you this dumb? 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:41pm On Feb 01, 2025
Janosky:
Your WAILING upandan doesn't change the fact that your fellow Trinitarians devotees believed the doctrine you are denying
His own TRUTH is ABSOLUTE therefore it doesn't matter if nobody agrees with him or there is anyone teaching others! grin
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:41pm On Feb 01, 2025
Janosky:
Your fellow Trinitarians devotees & protestant Reformers, staunch Trinitarians led by the same ghost deity deceiving you, rejected your claims.


1599 Geneva Bible translated and published by your fellow Trinitarians.
Do I have to remind you that Geneva Bible is far older than your KJV?

Go and examine the Bible evidence for their beliefs that Jesus is archangel Michael.
Your WAILING upandan doesn't change the fact that your fellow Trinitarians devotees believed the doctrine you are denying.
😂😂😂
As far as I am concerned the council of nicaea rejects this doctrine 🤤.

Also you are committing a grave fallacy by using this.

You are both are truly JWs
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:42pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂
Don't push it, you're terrible at this.
Truth being objective applies to all.
Are you this dumb? 🤣🤣🤣
Hen nah!
You are implying that Jesus is wrong after all it's not everyone in Jesus' day agree with him yet he claims to be the truth! grin
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:43pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
His own TRUTH is ABSOLUTE therefore it doesn't matter if nobody agrees with him or there is anyone teaching others! grin
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Subjective man.

You can do better than this.
It's becoming a debacle, it's rather humiliating seeing two great JW'S washed up like this.

No logical congruence at all😂😂😂
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:45pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Hen nah!
You are implying that Jesus is wrong after all it's not everyone in Jesus' day agree with him yet he claims to be the truth! grin
😂😂😂😂.
In what way have I implied that🤧.

You can see how they conflate things together.

Tell me what made you "Infer" that from my statement.

You, truly are not wise 😅
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 8:45pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
As far as I am concerned the council of nicaea rejects this doctrine 🤤.

Also you are committing a grave fallacy by using this.

You are both are truly JWs
Council of Nicaea who upgraded ghost to 3rd person deity in 381 AD
Versus
Protestant reformers/Adventists Jesus is archangel Michael.

Confused Trinitarians .
🤣🤣🤣
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:45pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Subjective man.

You can do better than this.
It's becoming a debacle, it's rather humiliating seeing two great JW'S washed up like this.

No logical congruence at all😂😂😂
TWO shows we are in tune and millions of JWs globally! Matthew 18:20

It's you who can't present any gathering where Jesus gathered with you to teach! cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:47pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Hen nah!
You are implying that Jesus is wrong after all it's not everyone in Jesus' day agree with him yet he claims to be the truth! grin
It's like saying 5 and 6 are the same.
Give a logical person what I wrote up there, in fact give an ai overview. how did I imply Jesus' being wrong? In fact you buttress my point more. I allude to the absolutism of truth.

You really need to go back to school, maybe they will teach you comprehension and registers properly.

It's just pathetic!!!
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:49pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
TWO shows we are in tune and millions of JWs globally! Matthew 18:20

It's you who can't present any gathering where Jesus gathered with you to teach! cheesy
The same way with balablu's regime😅.
Number in no way assures truth.

You both as it stands have not proved your statement as true.

Evidence to the contrary you both don't know what you are saying.

Once again read up Cipolla.

You truly are dumb!!!
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:50pm On Feb 01, 2025
Janosky:
Council of Nicaea who upgraded ghost to 3rd person deity in 381 AD
Versus
Protestant reformers/Adventists Jesus is archangel Michael.

Confused Trinitarians .
🤣🤣🤣
You haven't answered me by the way.
All these airbending skills will not help you. 🤕
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:51pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂😂.
In what way have I implied that🤧.
You can see how they conflate things together. Tell me what made you "Infer" that from my statement. You, truly are not wise 😅
Jesus is the TEACHER {Matthew 23:8-10} who chose twelve men to TEACH his disciples {Act 2:42} and the TWELVE appointed ELDERS to TEACH the other congregations. Hebrews 13:7
That's how the truth circulates {John 17:20} but you are saying your own truth doesn't follow the same pattern.
Abeg how so o? cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:55pm On Feb 01, 2025
Janosky:
Council of Nicaea who upgraded ghost to 3rd person deity in 381 AD
Versus
Protestant reformers/Adventists Jesus is archangel Michael.

Confused Trinitarians .
🤣🤣🤣
The bible is subject to different views based on the reader's understanding.

The same way people read the same exam register and get different scores.

Irrespective of this, there are means or methods for arriving at the truth.

A simple answer you cannot answer🙃.
Indeed you are confused🤤
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:56pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
It's like saying 5 and 6 are the same.
Give a logical person what I wrote up there, in fact give an ai overview. how did I imply Jesus' being wrong? In fact you buttress my point more. I allude to the absolutism of truth.

You really need to go back to school, maybe they will teach you comprehension and registers properly.

It's just pathetic!!!
Jesus teaches subjective truth that's why he made it clear that whatever he teaches he learned from his father and he teaches his apostles who in turn must spread it.
So they must be SUBJECTED to the same line of thought! John 17:20; 1Corinthans 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Where you get your own o?

I'm suspecting you are an agent of Satan because he's the one who doesn't agree with subjective truth! cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:56pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the TEACHER {Matthew 23:8-10} who chose twelve men to TEACH his disciples {Act 2:42} and the TWELVE appointed ELDERS to TEACH the other congregations. Hebrews 13:7
That's how the truth circulates {John 17:20} but you are saying your own truth doesn't follow the same pattern.
Abeg how so o? cheesy
What pattern ?
Let the world know what pattern? 👀

You keep displaying your foolishness for the world to see.
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Gabrielshow24: 8:57pm On Feb 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus teaches subjective truth that's why he made it clear that whatever he teaches he learned from his father and he teaches his apostles who in turn must spread it.
So they must be SUBJECTED to the same line of thought! John 17:20; 1Corinthans 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Where you get your own o?

I'm suspecting you are an agent of Satan because he's the one who doesn't agree with subjective truth! cheesy
I wonder how a grown man can say TRUTH is subjective 😂😂😂😂.

Indeed it's you that's an agent of Satan.
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:59pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
The bible is subject to different views based on the reader's understanding.
Now you're talking!

So Jesus is wrong to have claimed that everyone must be connected to him through his treelike form of dispensing truth! John 15:1-8

If each reader is free to form his own PERSONAL opinion on what is written in the scriptures then how can Jesus be right to have claimed everyone must be SUBJECTED to his interpretation of the scriptures? cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:00pm On Feb 01, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
I wonder how a grown man can say TRUTH is subjective 😂😂😂😂.
Indeed it's you that's an agent of Satan.
Go and correct Jesus o! cheesy
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