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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:49pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
NATO Chief wants Denmark to begin negotiations about Greenland with Trump.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IMAliyu2: 5:58pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
basilico:Will you support an American invasion of Greenland? Because the Dens have rejected the offer to buy Greenland and the people of Greenland have voted they don't want to be part of America. So the last option on the table is an Imperial conquest by Trump. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IMAliyu2: 6:00pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
Chinese Evangelicals maybe onto something 🤔
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:16pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
bemeruca:As at Trump 1.0 (in his own words), he was against the invasion of Crimea. That was 2020 2022, to own the libs, he switched beliefs, maybe after Trump tweeted that it was the "largest peacekeeping force ever seen" when Russia amassed on Ukraine border He's just an anywhere belle-face nigga. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 6:27pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
basilico:---of course you know much better than the US Chambers of Commerce--- https://www.uschamber.com/international/u-s-chamber-tariffs-are-not-the-answer |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 6:33pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
basilico:---where did you get this information---is it FoxNews, OANN or Breitbart--- |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:52pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
I couldn't resist. Tesla launches legal battle against USA over tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordAdam16: 7:08pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
bemeruca:MAGA is a big tent. We all get along. We welcomed pro-choice, climate-change-warrior RFK and Tulsi. I'm pro-choice, pro-Palestine, pro climate-change-action and I'm fine with Desantis who is on the opposing side of all three. America's foreign policy has been decided by a tiny group of neocons and neoliberals across the aisle who have wrecked havoc. Most around the world and many in the US want a reset. Trump is the closest we'd ever get to someone who says, "wait a minute" when the hawks and spooks bring their action plans gestated in think tanks. I do not let perfect be the enemy of good. Why did NATO expand eastwards? Does Russia trouble Armenia or Tajikistan? Russia launches some of their space assets from Kazakhstan. They pay Kazakhstan for the privilege. Have you ever heard Russia say they want to annex Kazakhstan for national security reasons? NATO created a boogeyman to justify its existence and Russia didn't wait until NATO planes buzzed around Moscow to say "I'm uncomfortable". As to the concern of NATO and allies being weak. South Korea is not weak. Japan is not weak. They have real threats. And they act like it. Europe has convinced itself that Russia is a threat but refuses to act like it. India buys hardware from Russia to counter threats from China who sells hardware to Pakistan to counter threats from India who is in an economic bloc with Russia and China who are in a special no-limits relationship. There is no conceivable reason why getting NATO partners to pony up 2% should be like pulling teeth. They've been pampered for too long. Everyone needs a powerful military to keep each other honest. North Korea is not slacking off and then expecting China to pick up the slack. Why should the Europoors? The US is trying to eliminate $2T in spending to become fiscally healthy, yet someone somewhere is complaining about 2% and trying to blackmail the US. That's like an adult complaining to the police that a door is too expensive. -Lord |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:12pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
Starting a trade war with your allies and neighbours is foolish business Regions grow together, that's how the EU has lifted so many ex-Soviet people out of poverty over the last 20 years Let's say it becomes too costly to bring in some goods from Mexico, and Thailand can do it cheaper, that means money flows away from Mexico and more immigrants from Mexico seeking economic freedom I've always maintained that Yankee should focus on lifting it's neighbours rather than it's Asian Pacific allies America is a debtor nation and if the rest of the world feels it is no longer an open market, they may start withdrawing capital. That capital is what makes America great. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 7:12pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
GloriousGbola:---sadly the 3rd crew member of the helicopter crash named---and she is not a trans---as recently reported by the MAGA Disinformation Media---headed by Felon 47--- https://www.foxnews.com/us/third-soldier-black-hawk-helicopter-involved-dc-mid-air-collision-identified |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 7:20pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
IjeBos:I am never one who see myself as superior, I have always stood up for what I believed in and that's my right. My views are my views. Even in the US, there are independents and they choose what side to ally with based on policies at every time, so why's my own different? You cannot claim to be liberal but force others to pick sides with you. From my observation here, you guys are hypocrites, you believe someone must stand for your views even when they are not right and that's fascism. You try to convince them that people from other parties and policies are blanket bad which is in itself same thing as what you condemn. The other guys here do not force anyone to believe them or support what they support, that's why they seem to be better than you guys. I have spoken against their policies but they never responded with shades or attacks. You especially, do not engage in discussions on this thread, you always attack someone for a different view. I saw the subtle shades you threw in the other responses you gave to me but I ignored because they are childish, I did not also respond because I do not operate like a pig as I am not a pig. You do not need to respond to my views, ignore them and scroll to the next. Like I said, there is no difference between what your group does and what the other guys do. If anything, you guys are worse off because you want everyone to walk your path even when they are wrong. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 7:27pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
Ibime:even actual mafia dons are not this stupid also this
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:28pm On Feb 02, 2025*. Modified: 7:14am On Feb 03, 2025 |
Nigga chatting long shyt Russia in 2012 or so decided that to break the West, they needed to interfere in its social media space backing far-right and far-left candidates with trolls, bots and so on. This was a major push by Russia sparing little expense Far-left wasn't working (which has always been their traditional ally), so they put more into far-right social media space. They know the Wests strength is in its centrism and continuity and wanted to break that. That's why you have so much symbiosis between the far-right and Russia today. They know their enabler. You even see them aligning with far-left on various matters like Ukraine or Palestine, conspiracy theories, big pharma, vaccines etc because it is the same source (Russian ecosystem) feeding both of them, a laughable alignment between far-left and far-right to where you can't distinguish between the two. These are things that were usually left to the far-left in previous decades but now you can't distinguish far-left and far-right positions on these matters. Your enemy decided that to break you, it needed to support an extreme section of your politic. You get consumed by their algorithms and bots and decide that your salvation lies in your enemies prescription for your downfall, then you start rowing back your previous beliefs. You must be very stüpid. Ukraine only asked to join the EU to improve their living conditions like they've seen all their neighbours do. Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe with GDP per capita around $3.5k whilst their ex-Soviet neighbours are boasting $20k to $30k per capita. They only wanted financial upliftment. Russia reacted violently, poisoning their President as far back as 2004, so they decided to apply for NATO membership in 2008 like all their neighbours did to protect themselves after trying to join the EU and seeing Russias reaction. That's the long and short of the Ukraine matter, a simple attempt by a people to improve their financial status and their big brother couldn't stomach it. NATO is already on Russias border from several countries and has never done anything to interfere in Russia, Russia is the one poisoning people (check Salisbury poisoning), hacking systems and carrying out sabotage on NATO countries. Russia even asked to join NATO but were told NATO is for democratic nations that see eye to eye on democratic ideals. They ask to join NATO but their little brother can't ask the same thing. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 7:29pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
cococandy:Check your views on this write up and tell me you are better than a MAGA in one the red States. You are a fascist and you don't see it yet because you have pinned your head inside the sand, buried yourself inside the cemetery of self righteousness and think everyone who does not flow in your direction at all times is not your friend. Almost of those who claim to be liberal here are very much same with you. No difference between you and basillico in every aspect, just different sides of same coin. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:33pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
IMAliyu2:More evidence he is a fascist, a dictator a Nazi and a Hitler? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:39pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
feedthenation:What is their opinion about the Opium Wars.? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 7:47pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
Ibime:and they learnt that while you need ideology for leftists - for the right wing all you need is money https://www.npr.org/2024/09/07/nx-s1-5101895/doj-says-russia-paid-right-wing-influencers-to-spread-russian-propaganda also why you have tucker carlson showcasing russian supermarkets |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IMAliyu2: 7:54pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
basilico:If he ever decides to invade, then yes. Will you throw your support for it, and try to defend it or do you have a line you don't cross and condemn such an act (if it were to happen)? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:00pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
Livelystone01:Mind the way you talk. Basillico does not attack people for having their own opinions on matters. he debates them. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:02pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
feedthenation:https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-is-right-nato-chief-reacts-to-us-claims-on-greenland/ar-AA1yhmtn |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:13pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
feedthenation:May her soul rest in peace The family wants to be left alone. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:16pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
Ibime:sometimes you sound like a simpleton. The same EU that is screwing the US? what are they doing to the UK? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz4nVcCI67c you would think the tariffs are irrational but US tariffs on steel and aluminium and the EU's retaliation on goods including motorcycles and whisky will be suspended until the end of March 2025. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:18pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
IMAliyu2:I like the way Trump makes the Europeans go mad . Belgium now has a right wing premier.. Joins Italy, France, Germany, Netherlands where right wingers have made strides to the chagrin of the EU mandarins. Anything that drives the EU bonkers is music to my ears. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:31pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
Livelystone01:Bingo. Everything you said here is on point. Kudos to you. Now the name calling will start. They will start calling you names. Dont let them bully you and your opinions. you have a right to them |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:32pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
Livelystone01:Actually basilco is better, where do you see basil attack anyone for their views? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:32pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
bemeruca:Same thing I said. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:33pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
This is the same nonsense you were chatting when they asked you to provide an example of a liberal policy that’s extreme. Of course you went silent because you had nothing. Wanna be neutral so bad you’re starting to look foolish. Pls miss me with the no nonsense. I don’t have time to coddle your feelings. Livelystone01: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:34pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
bemeruca:There are tariffs on UK, simpleton |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:40pm On Feb 02, 2025*. Modified: 8:56pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
This is easy to say when you’re supporting evil This is not about picking sides. It’s not a debate. Or a friendly match.It’s people lives and livelihoods. I was right. This here is just talk for you guys. You have no stake. That why you can post anything and think you deserve a civil response. Basil was just asked if he would support Trump invading the EU. And he all but said yes. Imagine if someone whose life would be impacted by such an invasion or someone who could even lose their life in such an invasion was reading it? You expect them to sit down and have a nice chat with him about why the invasion is a light issue that ends on Nairaland. For you it’s a difference in opinion. For the people whose lives you’re so nonchalantly discussing, it’s financial ruin, insecurity and possible war they are not interested in being a part of. You have no depth. It’s almost bordering on stupidity if such simple concepts have to be explained to you. Pls fvck off too. And stay ignored. Livelystone01: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:43pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
Ibime:Oga, the EU wanted to strangle the UK for leaving the EU. you watch the video and see the threat. They are using tariffs as a tool as well. WHY? From 2019. President Trump has repeatedly criticized the EU for treating the US car industry unfairly, threatening to raise the tariff on European cars to 25 percent, from the current rate of 2.5 percent. The European Union currently imposes a 10 percent tariff on US cars, in fact creating an unlevel playing field for US car makers trying to sell American-made models to European markets. The EU has been pissing on the United state's generosity since WW2. They cannot defend themselves or stand on their own. They want Ukraine to join the EU but they expect the United States to do more in defending Ukraine. in addition, As the following chart shows, automobile trade between the United States and the EU is a fairly lopsided affair. In 2018, the EU exported 1,155,488 cars worth $43.1 billion to the US, while the US shipped 267,653 cars worth $6.3 billion to the 28 EU member states. In an interview with German newspaper Welt am Sonntag, Germany’s Secretary of Commerce Peter Altmaier said that the EU would be open to dropping the levy on American cars altogether, but only if it comes as part of a broader tariff agreement.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:49pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
Livelystone01:Seems you actually do have a side. You guys always reveal yourselves. Livelystone01:Yes, I don't discuss with certain people. Should I try to have a discussion with Basilico who spends his days and nights posting mentally unbalanced posts or maybe with someone like Bemeruca who pretends he lives in the US? What would I be discussing with them? And you did not respond to my comments because you couldn't cuz you weren't capable. What you are capable of is false equivalencies and pretending you're a rational person because you can stand in the middle between US Democracy and a guy who wants to crater it and what it stand for. Tell me what is the middle position of 'Black people and Women aren't capable of doing the jobs what White men can' and 'Black people and women are capable of doing jobs White men can' ? There is none, just the fight for equality. Not everything has a middle position. Livelystone01:1.) If you say something I find egregious I'll tell you so, that's how forums work. 2.)You are opening your mouth about a side wanting people to walk their path, yet seem to miss the people who want to oppress people with their religion. Funny. I don't need anyone to walk my path. I do need people to live in the reality that we all do. You can believe whatever you want but don't come here and make up things to bolster your views just like you did. If you want to believe Biden was extreme, have facts to back it up. Don't just pull out bullshit you heard on right wing media you can't even explain nor understand. Again, you don't even understand the issues well enough to start talking about what is wrong. But keep pretending you do. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:52pm On Feb 02, 2025 |
raumdeuter:Well done. You're the type of person who will tell someone having a mental breakdown that he is well, because he agrees with whatever deranged position you have. You're an all round terrible person. If you can't read the insanity Basilico writes and see he is unstable. That speaks more about you. |
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