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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:09pm On Feb 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
I broke you so bad that you are unraveling in front of everyone. Even your fellow democrats think you are a lunatic
I'd be in Boston. Ijebos is going to kill himself 😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:26pm On Feb 03, 2025
bemeruca:
I'd be in Boston. Ijebos is going to kill himself 😂
Safe travels whenever you go. You should probably meet up with him to encourage him and give him some hope in life
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:31pm On Feb 03, 2025
Ibime:
Crypto market dump foreboding the market dump later this morning when markets open - response to tariff wars
For the first time in 6 years, I exited all trade positions - Indices, Commodities, Currencies, and the lil Crypto I had. I exited all positions on the 15th, 5 days before the inauguration, took all my money and moved it to a business.

Everything happening, I could see from a mile away.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:36pm On Feb 03, 2025
nateevs:
For the first time in 6 years, I exited all trade positions - Indices, Commodities, Currencies, and the lil Crypto I had. I exited all positions on the 15th, 5 days before the inauguration, took all my money and moved it to a business.

Everything happening, I could see from a mile away.
You exited at the wrong time. Even a worm knew crypto would reach a new all-time high if Trump won. It did. We knew it would climb when he entered office.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:53pm On Feb 03, 2025
nateevs:
For the first time in 6 years, I exited all trade positions - Indices, Commodities, Currencies, and the lil Crypto I had. I exited all positions on the 15th, 5 days before the inauguration, took all my money and moved it to a business.

Everything happening, I could see from a mile away.
lol. You no like Trump at all

I was thinking he'd be good for markets so I wasn't as proactive

I only do Crypto these days and exited on Friday. My pension is already locked and weighted towards cash/fixed deposits and treasuries for the most part. I think I set only 20% of it to ride the stock market.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
budaatum:
An old English friend used to tell me to be concerned about China taking over in Nigeria. I told him he thinks we haven't learnt anything from Europe's exploitation, and think we are still dumb so China can exploit us.

You say you consider all sides. Show me.
China plans are not short term. It's to return to the days of Silk road. The belt initiative plan is to build a huge infrastructure worldwide all leading to China From roads, railways , seaports, airports everything. They fund huge infrastructure projects that countries can't afford to repay and on default they threaten to take over a very strategic asset of that country
Chinaman is playing long term to replace the west as the most dominant power.
WTO calls it a developing nation because of GDP per Capita or whatever metric , their products attract lower lower tariffs.
With cheap labour, a 600 million middle class population and having massive domestic spending power they can manufacture stuff at cheaper cost than every other nation. They have the best established supply chain of most products under the sun.
Govt looks away when it comes to Intellectual property.

I can write a long story about China.
The foolish west hates fossil fuels but china is bringing online a new coal plant per week. The west energy is higher ,their labour higher, they have smart ass MBAs sending manufacturing to China.

When it comes to Africa they propose a project , they fund it and their companies build the project with plenty Chinese labor. They import almost everything say even cement whereas local companies are producing clinker. We used to say those guys doing the rebar are prisoners out on good conduct. I have seen tendering for roads where local companies with only three graders are competing with Chinese having hundreds of graders and with multi million dollar projects completed and backed by huge financial bonds. So the Chinese will.say...you want a railway. Tell us from.what point to what , we'll build it then you can start paying us off after xyz years at this rate. That's the debt trap.
In the days before China came to Africa the development bodies would fund a project, give the govt money as a loan which is promptly wired to Guernsey or Caymans by the corruptocrats.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:57pm On Feb 03, 2025
bemeruca:
You exited at the wrong time. Even a worm knew crypto would reach a new all-time high if Trump won. It did. We knew it would climb when he entered office.
Crypto made it's move on election day and the few weeks after. From 15th to inauguration was mostly sideways and choppy price action. There was one last small bump on inauguration day but Nateevs has already seen his profit. After inauguration is sell the news time. He got a near perfect exit. Also he does mostly stocks so his exit date allowed him to avoid the Deepseek and trade war brouhaha.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:17pm On Feb 03, 2025
Ibime:
Crypto made it's move on election day and the few weeks after. From 15th to inauguration was mostly sideways and choppy price action. There was one last small bump on inauguration day but Nateevs has already seen his profit. After inauguration is sell the news time. He got a near perfect exit. Also he does mostly stocks so his exit date allowed him to avoid the Deepseek and trade war brouhaha.
I thought he said he exited before the election?

now I see its inauguration. kudos to him. A new opportunity will present itself. Its time for the market to crash again like in 2021.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 4:37pm On Feb 03, 2025
Market to crash at whose expense and loss ?

Please the millionaire and billionaire in the current
administration should do everything to avoid the market "crashing again like 2021"

Americans were told they will win so much and start begging the winning is too much and tired of winning.

Please oh, show we the people winnings not waking up to see market crashing

bemeruca:
I thought he said he exited before the election?

now I see its inauguration. kudos to him. A new opportunity will present itself. Its time for the market to crash again like in 2021.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:41pm On Feb 03, 2025
armyofone:
Market to crash at whose expense and loss ?

Please the millionaire and billionaire in the current
administration should do everything to avoid the market "crashing again like 2021"

Americans were told they will win so much and start begging the winning is too much and tired of winning.

Please oh, show we the people winnings not waking up to see market crashing
The market always responds to news.
this is nothing new
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:45pm On Feb 03, 2025
armyofone:
Market to crash at whose expense and loss ?

Please the millionaire and billionaire in the current
administration should do everything to avoid the market "crashing again like 2021"

Americans were told they will win so much and start begging the winning is too much and tired of winning.

Please oh, show we the people winnings not waking up to see market crashing
The way they fix their mouth to team market crash like it’s all a game. Such ghoulish thirst for chaos.

Market crash is people’s retirements and lifetimes investments. some of who are past the age of waiting and playing the long game with their money. These are the same people that were promised the economy would be amazing overnight and they voted for him because of that promise.


At least be honest and tell them you plan to crash the market and the economy let them make an informed choice on who to vote?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 5:07pm On Feb 03, 2025
bemeruca:
The market always responds to news.
this is nothing new
You mean respond to negative tariff news right ?

Why try to make us pay more when you told us we will pay less when you come in?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:31pm On Feb 03, 2025
armyofone:
You mean respond to negative tariff news right ?

Why try to make us pay more when you told us we will pay less when you come in?
There are news like this all the time. Market will respond then bounce back
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 5:34pm On Feb 03, 2025
Dow is down
Nasdaq is down
S&P 500 is down
Making America great again grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:35pm On Feb 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
I broke you so bad that you are unraveling in front of everyone. Even your fellow democrats think you are a lunatic
Don't you think it's odd.

You guys are supposedly against homosexulaity, but you, Bemeruca and Outto-SpaceX will vividly think of and discuss male homosexuality repeatedly in this thread unprompted.
You guys say you are against grooming children by trans people, but when talking about sex, people like you imagine teenage and sexualize teenage girls
You guys talk about family values, yet someone like Bemeruca has 4 children out of wedlock who he doesn't raise.

It's almost like you project the stuff you secretly hate about yourselves.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IMAliyu2: 5:35pm On Feb 03, 2025
These people are beyond incompetent.

They would rather keep losing to fascists, than listen to leftists with a game plan like Bernie.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 5:38pm On Feb 03, 2025
happney65:
Dow is down
Nasdaq is down
S&P 500 is down
Making America great again grin grin
It's not down that much. Trump had to send out message that it's drug war he's fighting with Canada and Mexico, not Trade war after seeing markets initial reaction.

Watch how basilico argument will change from balance of trade to balance of fentanyl. Typical cultists, they wait for their cult leader to speak then they engage their brain to do his bidding.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:38pm On Feb 03, 2025
nateevs:
For the first time in 6 years, I exited all trade positions - Indices, Commodities, Currencies, and the lil Crypto I had. I exited all positions on the 15th, 5 days before the inauguration, took all my money and moved it to a business.

Everything happening, I could see from a mile away.
Closed out a lot of my positions shortly after inauguration.
I think this next 6 months will be volatile and we're probably looking at an upcoming recession.
Made a lot of money under Biden, so rather not be greedy.

Will keep an eye out for any good positions.
Too much going on to even fully understand the implications.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 5:42pm On Feb 03, 2025
Ibime:
It's not down that much. Trump had to send out message that it's drug war he's fighting with Canada and Mexico, not Trade war after seeing markets initial reaction.

Watch how basilico argument will change from balance of trade to balance of fentanyl. Typical cultists, they wait for their cult leader to speak then they engage their brain to do his bidding.
Awon oniyeye. Man is using their brains they dont know.. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:42pm On Feb 03, 2025
IMAliyu2:
These people are beyond incompetent.

They would rather keep losing to fascists, than listen to leftists with a game plan like Bernie.
They must consider if Bernie will be listened to. A lot if not most Americans will label him commie.

I am a defender of Blue patience, note.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:44pm On Feb 03, 2025
IjeBos:
Don't you think it's odd.

You guys are supposedly against homosexulaity, but you, Bemeruca and Outto-SpaceX will vividly think of and discuss male homosexuality repeatedly in this thread unprompted.
You guys say you are against grooming children by trans people, but when talking about sex, people like you imagine teenage and sexualize teenage girls
You guys talk about family values, yet someone like Bemeruca has 4 children out of wedlock who he doesn't raise.

It's almost like you project the stuff you secretly hate about yourselves.
Yeah, because we discuss you. You are homosexual
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:46pm On Feb 03, 2025
IMAliyu2:
These people are beyond incompetent.

They would rather keep losing to fascists, than listen to leftists with a game plan like Bernie.
Would Bernie be successful in this environment?

I am harsh on the Dems but do understand.
How they understood the game was played changed and they don't know how to play the new game.
And frankly some may be uncomfortable playing it.

Trump has forever changed politics for the worse in the US.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:48pm On Feb 03, 2025
Ibime:
It's not down that much. Trump had to send out message that it's drug war he's fighting with Canada and Mexico, not Trade war after seeing markets initial reaction.

Watch how basilico argument will change from balance of trade to balance of fentanyl. Typical cultists, they wait for their cult leader to speak then they engage their brain to do his bidding.
Lies. He said that the day he announced the tarriff on Canada and Mexico and China.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:50pm On Feb 03, 2025
cococandy:
The way they fix their mouth to team market crash like it’s all a game. Such ghoulish thirst for chaos.

Market crash is people’s retirements and lifetimes investments. some of who are past the age of waiting and playing the long game with their money. These are the same people that were promised the economy would be amazing overnight and they voted for him because of that promise.


At least be honest and tell them you plan to crash the market and the economy let them make an informed choice on who to vote?
Stop hating on Trump looking for every negative outcome.

Canadian top business executives plan to shift production and operations to America though they all want their govt to retaliate.

This source can't be challenged.
KPMG.

https://kpmg.com/ca/en/home/media/press-releases/2025/01/fight-tariffs-with-tariffs-kpmg-business-survey.html

Almost two-thirds (65 per cent) took pre-emptive action, preparing for potential tariffs by shipping goods or products to the U.S. before President Trump’s inauguration, the KPMG survey finds. Forty-eight per cent also plan to shift their investments to the U.S. and set up operations or production south of the 49th parallel to serve the U.S. market and reduce costs.

cc ibime

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:50pm On Feb 03, 2025
budaatum:
They must consider if Bernie will be listened to. A lot if not most Americans will label him commie.

I am a defender of Blue patience, note.
That politics is over.
Dems have to fight back and stop believing that Republicans will ultimately do the right thing.
After Trump, they had an opportunity to put new laws in place to fortify the norms and hold Trump account for what he did.
They talked, debated and dithered until Trump won office and is now wholesale destroying the US government as it was.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:51pm On Feb 03, 2025
Ibime:
lol. You no like Trump at all

I was thinking he'd be good for markets so I wasn't as proactive

I only do Crypto these days and exited on Friday. My pension is already locked and weighted towards cash/fixed deposits and treasuries for the most part. I think I set only 20% of it to ride the stock market.
You are actually not wrong for thinking he'd be good for markets. The real problem is volatility. You just never know with him. Today he's imposing 25% tarriffs on allies, tomorrow he might be invading Greeland.... and all at a moment's notice must times.

I cannot be in the markets with all this anywhere belle face decisions disguised as well-fashioned economic policies.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 5:55pm On Feb 03, 2025
bemeruca:
Lies. He said that the day he announced the tarriff on Canada and Mexico and China.
As a minor point and had Basilico telling us about balance of trade. Now balance of trade is out the window according to the God, so time to present stats for fentanyl flows

BTW, Canada does not have a positive balance of trade with USA outside of Hydrocarbons, so there is no unfavourable balance with Canada. You might as well talk of balance with Saudi as if you won't still buy that oil elsewhere
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:56pm On Feb 03, 2025
IjeBos:
Don't you think it's odd.

You guys are supposedly against homosexulaity, but you, Bemeruca and Outto-SpaceX will vividly think of and discuss male homosexuality repeatedly in this thread unprompted.
You guys say you are against grooming children by trans people, but when talking about sex, people like you imagine teenage and sexualize teenage girls
You guys talk about family values, yet someone like Bemeruca has 4 children out of wedlock who he doesn't raise.

It's almost like you project the stuff you secretly hate about yourselves.
Dont you think you sound pathetic?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Ibime. There is a hidden clause on Canada/ China tariffs . Something about tariffs and declaring goods below $800;.
What does it mean?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 5:58pm On Feb 03, 2025
nateevs:
You are actually not wrong for thinking he'd be good for markets. The real problem is volatility. You just never know with him. Today he's imposing 25% tarriffs on allies, tomorrow he might be invading Greeland.... and all at a moment's notice must times.

I cannot be in the markets with all this anywhere before face decisions disguised as well-fashioned economic policies.
Yep, ain't nobody got time to babysit unpredictability
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:04pm On Feb 03, 2025
IMAliyu2:
These people are beyond incompetent.

They would rather keep losing to fascists, than listen to leftists with a game plan like Bernie.
They had a good message under Clintons and Obama. The message of common sense which they ditched for the woke agenda that panders to a super minority of the country

Most of what Trump is saying currently and his campaigns will have been what Democrats would have been behind many years ago

- Anti- war, strong borders, Promote America manufacturing and jobs. This is why Trump took the blue collar base from the Dems

Trump has hijacked these from them and its impossible and almost ridiculous to counter these points so they look like a deer in the headlight so all they are left with is screaming racist, fascism, misogynist, Hitler continuously

Do you see how many ex Democrats broke ranks with the party recently and found a place with Trump? Musk, RFK, Tulsi. People like Andrew Yang, Mayor Adams see their positions agreeing more with Trump than their own party

Last weekend they asked the DNC chair candidates how many believed they lost due to racism and misogyny and they all raised their hands, Shows a party that has not learned anything and will lose more
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:18pm On Feb 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
They had a good message under Clintons and Obama. The message of common sense which they ditched for the woke agenda that panders to a super minority of the country

Most of what Trump is saying currently and his campaigns will have been what Democrats would have been behind many years ago

- Anti- war, strong borders, Promote America manufacturing and jobs. This is why Trump took the blue collar base from the Dems

Trump has hijacked these from them and its impossible and almost ridiculous to counter these points so they look like a deer in the headlight so all they are left with is screaming racist, fascism, misogynist, Hitler continuously

Do you see how many ex Democrats broke ranks with the party recently and found a place with Trump? Musk, RFK, Tulsi. People like Andrew Yang, Mayor Adams see their positions agreeing more with Trump than their own party

Last weekend they asked the DNC chair candidates how many believed they lost due to racism and misogyny and they all raised their hands, Shows a party that has not learned anything and will lose more
Somene said he didn't leave the Democrat Party. It left him.
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