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IjeBos:
Everyday something comes out that shocks me more.
Rubio is negotiating with Venezuela to take in US citizens who are imprisoned.


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/04/us/politics/el-salvador-prisons-marco-rubio.html

IMAliyu2:
I agree with Cenk in that the Dems do need to change, which is what I'm arguing for. I've seen some lib Dems try to argue that "there's nothing we could've done differently, trump is just abnormal opponent, or that it's because of misogyny that Kamala lost" trying to pat themselves on the back that they did the best they can.
These folk should either retire, or lose their jobs, there's no reward for failure. You listen to feedback and form a new game plan.

Keep in mind, I agree the Dems need to change, I don't know what direction to change in Cenk has in mind.
Mine is left populism, back to being the party of the working class, fighting for worker rights, safety and adequate compensation, without compromising on social progressivism.

The reason people have come to have issues with "wokeness" is because of the coordinated campaign by the rightwing to demonize it and attribute anything they don't like to it,
As well as the fact that liberals were almost entirely focused on social issues without addressing any of the material anxiety, or class disparities the majority of people were feeling, making the whole topic of diversity and representation feel disingenuous.
Like Disney race swapped a character (something no one was really asking for), that's cool and all, but what are we going to do about the growing homelessness issues in liberal run Cities?

What part of the government was working that you democrats fighting for pic.twitter.com/bt3P0Bo7to

— Ace Smart (@ace225luv) February 3, 2025

IjeBos:
I don't think this is fair.
I think Republicans successfully elevated wedge issues to give the perception that Dems were solely focused on those social issues.
But at the end of the day as people will learn, those wedge issues the Republicans ran on won't really address any of the more complex disparity issues because Republicans have few policies to address it and the issues are complex on their own.

Dems spend a lot of time trying to legislate and not so much of it explaining or propagandizing what they have done/

As to the the homelessness it's a tough one.
The success of any place means prices rise esp. housing.
So how do you successfully house people who don't have housing where some of them are mentally ill without also creating a situation where you have people coming into your state just for that housing?
Do you arrest them? Is that fair esp. if someone is mentally ill. And does that not add to the costs?
Boston has been dealing with this issue for years and I think that goes to the fact that they are trying to deal with it a way that is fair.

IMAliyu2:
As well as the fact that liberals were almost entirely focused on social issues without addressing any of the material anxiety, or class disparities the majority of people were feeling, making the whole topic of diversity and representation feel disingenuous.
Like Disney race swapped a character (something no one was really asking for), that's cool and all, but what are we going to do about the growing homelessness issues in liberal run Cities?

raumdeuter:
Trump meeting Netanyahu at the white house

budaatum:
Basilico, has USAID stopped paying you to install solar panels?

PDPGuy:
On the issue of foreign aid, I’ll take Trump seriously when Congress cuts the $3 billion funding for Israel. After all, Israel is rich enough to defend itself from her enemies 🤷🏾

raumdeuter:
Trump meeting Netanyahu at the white house

PDPGuy:
On the issue of foreign aid, I’ll take Trump seriously when Congress cuts the $3 billion funding for Israel. After all, Israel is rich enough to defend itself from her enemies 🤷🏾

raumdeuter:
Some of these positions on govt foreign spending was what made Bernie popular in both presidential attempt before the Dem establishment canned him
We all know these spending have been going on under Republican and Democratic leadership for years and many politicians look away because of their own interest
I am sure some Republican establishment Senators will just be glad that this didn't blow up under their watch even though they jointly approved most of it with other Dems in the past

Do you really want to be the candidate or spokesman that want to go before struggling Americans and try to justify these type of spending (See the list the Trump press secretary showed yesterday)? And your comeback is that the man uncovering(one of the reasons you are suffering) is a felon or a Nazi

ObaIgwe1:
I honestly support any government cutting down wastage. There's absolutely no need doing father Christmas for nations and organizations that offer you no tangible benefits. Apart from offering helping hands to people and organizations in time of natural disasters and serious needs, I support Trump withdrawing all unnecessary aids, especially those given to lazy and corrupt governments.

That said, I doubt all these aids serve no American interest. Most of them were given in exchange for certain support or benefits, like military access, diplomatic/political support, access to mineral resources, trade benefits, goodwill, etc. It will be naive to think all these aids were just given for charity. Trump will be wise not to naked US while doing all these cutting off exercises. There is a reason many countries always line up behind US in many issues. Take that away, some of US security concerns, foreign policies and interests might be affected especially the unofficial position of being the world police.

All the same, I support US to set their priorities right and follow their best interest.

raumdeuter:
There are aids that serve strategic interests of the US and I believe there are many that are just chopped by people by creating bogus activities. Both Dems, GOP politicians and their foreign accomplices have been running this racket for decades. If it's for goodwill tag it as it and let people know.

How will you see an American suffering, you are telling him you want to increase his taxes and he sees that they are spending part of his money for DEI initiatives in Serbia, transgender in Colombia, EV in Vietnam

As you are in Nigeria if you see FG aid breakdown and see those type of things in it, I am sure you will be angry and the opposition rebuttal is that Don't worry about the aid wastage but worry about the person exposing it. A felon, Elon Musk, Racist, fascist etc exposing them. At that point if it's the devil himself exposing these, it would be welcome by you

There is no real way you can oppose this and not lose face with the voters. This is where Trump has hijacked many sensible policies of other platforms and made it his own, Now the politicians are playing defence

raumdeuter:
Netanyahu - You are the greatest friend Israel has ever had in the white house

First regime, you moved embassy to Jerusalem, walked out of the disastrous Iran nuclear deal, brokered Abraham accord which brought peace with 4 Arab nation

First days of 2nd term brought our hostages home, freed missiles withheld from Israel, ended unjust sanctions against Israel, fought antisemitism, Withdrew from UNRWA all these in just 2 weeks. Imagine where we will be in 4yrs

ObaIgwe1:
I agree that if you take some of these aids in isolation they will look stupid. But when you discuss with the people that approved these aids you might have a different perspective. I am sure no government official will be stupid enough to just be throwing taxpayers money away for the fun of it.

For example, I read recently about plans to send millions worth of condoms to Palestinians (I also read somewhere that the claim is not true) Let's assume it's true, it will look absurd on the face value to do that, like a waste of taxpayers money to help people have proper sex/fun at American taxpayers expenses ... Very Ridiculous! But on a 2nd thought it might be a wise aids to send to prevent jobless and homeless people given birth to children they cannot care for, thereby requiring more aids for antenatal and childcare.

People should not just attach emotional attachment to all these aids, questions should be asked to determine the reasons it was given in the 1st place and the benefits to US, if it no longer serves any benefit, or if the benefits do no worth the cost, then it can be withdrawn.

ObaIgwe1:
I agree that if you take some of these aids in isolation they will look stupid. But when you discuss with the people that approved these aids you might have a different perspective. I am sure no government official will be stupid enough to just be throwing taxpayers money away for the fun of it.

For example, I read recently about plans to send millions worth of condoms to Palestinians (I also read somewhere that the claim is not true) Let's assume it's true, it will look absurd on the face value to do that, like a waste of taxpayers money to help people have proper sex/fun at American taxpayers expenses ... Very Ridiculous! But on a 2nd thought it might be a wise aids to send to prevent jobless and homeless people given birth to children they cannot care for, thereby requiring more aids for antenatal and childcare.

People should not just attach emotional attachment to all these aids, questions should be asked to determine the reasons it was given in the 1st place and the benefits to US, if it no longer serves any benefit, or if the benefits do no worth the cost, then it can be withdrawn.

raumdeuter:
You don't believe the bold do you? You don't think there might be ulterior motive of corruption? You think they are angels in Congress and USAID. If its their personal money will they send it to fund those type of initiatives? You haven't heard of politicians using their influence abroad and govt money to enrich themselves? Govt money which is actually tax payers money

On the 2nd point, there are Americans who need those aids, Before caring about jobless and homeless in Palestine giving birth, How about the jobless and homeless in New York, Texas, Alabama California, those who actually paid these taxes

If you see the budget of Nigeria tomorrow and see Tinubu sending money to say Burundi to stop hunger and unemployment to stop having kids when millions of tax paying Nigerians are suffering the same or worse. What will you say?

You want them to ask why they are funding and the benefits of transgender in Colombia, Peru, DEI in Ireland and Serbia to the American tax payer on the street complaining about how tough life is for him?

cococandy:
Trump lied that it was 50 million dollars. Then he lied again that it was 100 million. His press secretary helped him spread the lie. However yes it was around 45 thousand dollars spent to curtail the spread of HIV and aids. And it wasn’t even in Gaza specifically. It was the Middle East in general .

That’s the kind of bold faced malicious lies they tell to paint a horrid image of whatever it is they are disparaging at the moment. He hates fact checkers because they’ll always expose him.

They stopped caring about the truth years and years ago and some people somehow still try to equate them to democrats. How do you communicate with people who don’t think facts are facts?

IjeBos:
Trump just said he wants to send US troops to GAZA so he can remove the Palestinians, rebuild it and own it.
Holy Shit!!!

The US tried so hard to not project the image they we were fighting Afghanistan or Iraq to own it and here our Dumbass in Chief gives US enemies the propaganda they need.

And he was talking about ending endless wars.
Holy Shit.

ObaIgwe1:
This is why I don't trust Trump's word a bit until proven correct. The guy will call white black without blinking an eyelid.

cococandy:
Literally everyone but pro-Trumpers saw this coming.

Because they have no pattern recognition abilities.
If you told them this was going to happen based on his past exhibitions of narcissism and lack of empathy, they’d have argued until they were blue in the face.

IjeBos:
Right!

Surprising none of them have mentioned it.
I'm sure they are waiting to figure out how to spin it.

cococandy:
2024 tax year. Another year of Elon not paying taxes.
Getting govt money paid for by us in subsidies and then paying nothing back in taxes because he’s so amazing.

Now he’s illegally firing govt workers and sniffing around federal agencies to find out how to extract 2 trillion dollars to fund his space project.

But republican senators want hungry school children to go to work in order to prove their value.

budaatum:
Basilico, has USAID stopped paying you to install solar panels?