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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 1:29pm On Feb 05, 2025
raumdeuter:
This makes sense in many ways. I agree with you so much. If you also read the commentaries by his followers you will see how they were literally mocking some of the ridiculous Dem positions. Not knowing what is wrong is a bad way to start and thinking you couldnt have done anything is a poor thing.

Like I said yesterday many of Trumps top issues were Democrats campaign points for years that they deprioritized for other things

People feel the main issues bothering them are pushed to the back burner for issues that are less important and affect the super minority

This is what give fuel to talking points
For example that Kamala interview on support for Tax payer funded transgender surgeries for imprisoned illegal immigrants. The statement alone has almost 4 things that infuriates an average American. You now have 4 in one statement. In the real world, how many illegal immigrants want tax funded trans surgeries? Maybe a total of 200 if that much. But you choose to upset 100m people and another 70m who will still barely support you even though they shake their heads at that comment.

Do you or any serious person think its okay for trans to play in women sports? These are issues where Dems tie themselves into a knot to appease the fringe and upset the bulk of Americans

Another current issue, many people think there is excessive waste in the country especially in govt, Some agencies have not been audited in years or have failed audits, Some of these include Defence and foreign aids(Something Republicans like and Democrats do not) You have allowed Trump to take over this type of issue from you and Right now Democrats are positioning themselves as the party to block probes into excessive govt waste

Another example, Democrats are calling to fight/resist everywhere including the streets and you are showing people burning American flags while raising foreign flags on US soil

How will it look during a campaign Trump is saying there was waste in govt with pictures of Democrats actively blocking the probes. Or Showing people burning US flags and hoisting foreign flags on American soil

At a point, some people will start asking do you really care about me or just some dumb ideas like this angry guy here
I'm laughing so hard at the conversation between you both on these issues. The reason is because I stood for those, said the Dems became too extreme in their policies and all that but it was called a centrist bs lol.

One thing I have learned to do is to give time to issues. It naturally plays out that when someone's right, time will redirect everything to his path.

During the last campaign, I told my wife something. I said, the Dems are doing the mistake Trump made in 2020.

In 2020, Trump focused on some issues that became scary for the neutral voters who thought he was pandering to only his base and it was costly. These neutrals had to tilt towards Biden and the Dems. In the run-up to the last election, the Dems became too extreme with the same extremism that became scary for the neutral voters in the past that they had to vote for Trump. It is important to note that the neutrals in every election are more than supporters of parties. They are the true deciders of elections. Over-pander to a direction and they are gone to the other side.

What did the Dems do after they lost? They began an online war against men, blacks and minorities who voted for Trump. Like they have been in the last 4 years, no convincing, only bullying to make sure you fall in line. Some said they won't have sex in the next 4 years, I wonder if they still hold on to that now.

It was so with the media. How they hounded lots of people who spoke against the system. Why fight opposing voices to the extent of cancelling them or using the social media to block their views if you aren't scared?
It was clearer when Zuckerberg said he would have done things differently now than before. Bezos was attacked for saying his media platform would stay out of picking a side few weeks to the election.

The COVID-19 mandate was so poor. You are a party of my body my choice but you hate the fact that someone was against a vaccine that has an agreement tied to it that whatever happens is not on the company. People were sacked for taking their stand against the vaccine. My question is, where did COVID-19 go at this point? Has it gone completely? Let's just forget the crap talk of herd immunity because most African countries didn't take the vaccine yet they got the same results of herd immunity.

Is it about the LGBTQXYZ issue? How will you allow a child to choose a gender but stop that same child from voting? If he's too young to have a better decision with voting why will that child be too old to choose something as delicate as gender change? Let's not forget the issue of trans in sports. Women were cancelled for speaking out. It even happened to Chimamanda whose event in Germany was cancelled because she spoke for women and they thought she was against Trans. The issue of school having more right than parents about the gender issue of their own children was also another extreme one.

There were lots of things that happened that were extreme, but the media in cohort with the previous administration made them look ordinary. Why will something ordinary cause you to lose an election if it was truly ordinary?

Lastly, the Dems do not try to convince people, they bully. I have seen it here. Imagine you have 4 years to convince a MAGA but you constantly called him names for picking a side, now he voted for same person because he didn't see you different from him.
Make I just stop here.

The above being said, I still think there are some things Trump shouldn't be touching at this point. He's becoming too extreme in my point of view.

Like I said, I will condemn him when he pushes off and I will support his policy when I see it's right for everyone. It doesn't make me a MAGA, I stand as a centrist bs if that's the tag now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:32pm On Feb 05, 2025
Pam Bondi. Represented Trump at the first sham impeachment. They made it look like there was no there there wrt Ukraine.Doubt she has forgotten,pardons or no pardons the truth must be revealed.
New AG.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:36pm On Feb 05, 2025
Obrigardo:
Elections have consequences.
If the Democrats really have a working brain, they need to use that as the party moto - Elections have consequences.

I mean, we are gonna see basilico loco the deranged maga cultist urging the rapist trump to occupy Gaza, right? Right?
I've written negatively about 1 5 million terrorists in Gaza. Let their brethren in the middle east rebuild.
No UNRWA and USAID funds for them from Trump. They get aid to pay for their terrorists who murder Israel citizens.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 1:37pm On Feb 05, 2025
nateevs:
These are for the echo-chamber. Those who are paying attention know where the ultimate wastage is.

When Elon Musk and DOGE reach the DoD to cut 60% of that $900bn annual budget, give me a buzz.
You'll see it in the news, a car crash, helicopter crash, air plane crash, or some other stealth means like novichok. To be fair to Nazi musk, the south African might think he's invincible because he's kind of autistic, but as be continues to see how far he can go to cut spending for black ops, he's going to the slammer.
He's lucky (but not for very long), the rapist trump came back to power, because he would have been prosecuted by president Kamala's AG as we speak.

I think we are about to learn why the french revolution executed their ultra wealthy king public forum style.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 1:41pm On Feb 05, 2025
basilico:
I've written negatively about 1 5 million terrorists in Gaza. Let their brethren in the middle east rebuild.
No UNRWA and USAID funds for them from Trump. They get aid to pay for their terrorists who murder Israel citizens.
You dont have a mind of your own. It's just deranged maga shit and piss all in your brains.

See, this is the tipping point to show if you still support ethnic cleansing, white nationalism and land grabbing and you just casually say that.

You have no soul, to be honest.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 1:49pm On Feb 05, 2025
basilico:
Pam Bondi. Represented Trump at the first sham impeachment. They made it look like there was no there there wrt Ukraine.Doubt she has forgotten,pardons or no pardons the truth must be revealed.
New AG.
Everything is working together to crystallize this rapist fascist trump's incompetency.
For magats like you that can't remember recent history let me tell you something to be aware of.

In his last disastrous presidency, the DOJ wasn't having wins like they do because the DOJ always wins 95% of the time. It was so disastrously he had to switch three AGs, right?
Even barr later regretted trying to do things like the rapist trump's lawyer instead of the AG of the USA.

So it's so pitiful that you this slow man, is ushering someone who is going to blatantly be the rapist trump's AG instead of The AG for the USA. You cheer on how she protected the rapist but you don't think about what her role could be for the America that will outlast the Rapist.

We are on another disastrous DOJ chaos with revolving doors moving as fast as lightning.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:03pm On Feb 05, 2025
GloriousGbola:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&tbs=li:1&q=bbc%20annual+budget

you can google the BBC budget instead of listening to clowns pull stories out of their asses
Propaganda sounds nicer because it hits the bias soft spot.

ObaIgwe1:
I think it's about time we begin to ask those Arabs for Trump, 'how far?'
They’ll still find a way to blame Dems.

Obrigardo:
You dont have a mind of your own. It's just deranged maga shit and piss all in your brains.

See, this is the tipping point to show if you still support ethnic cleansing, white nationalism and land grabbing and you just casually say that.

You have no soul, to be honest.
Like that religious nut-job that’s always on the front page. Righteousness or so. No brain nor soul. He’ll stand on the grave of mass murdered people and find reasons to say it’s okay because the side he likes did it. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re related.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:24pm On Feb 05, 2025
Gavin Newscum goes to WH to beg for funds Weeks after he called for a special session and allocated $50 million to fight Trump over his stance on the California wild fires.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/02/05/gavin-newsom-goes-to-white-house-to-beg-for-federal-money-after-legislature-passes-anti-trump-spending/

The left has no shame.

Meanwhile Trump will investigate the long delayed California High speed rail project that has never taken off.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:29pm On Feb 05, 2025
Obrigardo:
You dont have a mind of your own. It's just deranged maga shit and piss all in your brains.

See, this is the tipping point to show if you still support ethnic cleansing, white nationalism and land grabbing and you just casually say that.

You have no soul, to be honest.
I don't need any votes such that I'm forced to pander to terrorist and their 1.5 million supporters.
The Palestinians are the liars ,they can't imagine a Jewish state side by side with them . What does from the river to the sea mean .And judenrein?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:00pm On Feb 05, 2025
nateevs:
These are for the echo-chamber. Those who are paying attention know where the ultimate wastage is.

When Elon Musk and DOGE reach the DoD to cut 60% of that $900bn annual budget, give me a buzz.
The American taxpayers dont want their taxes funding trans in Colombia or DEI in Serbia. The DoD budget is what is keeping our allies like you in Europe from speaking Russian now. The biggest country in the world needs a strong military
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:02pm On Feb 05, 2025
Obrigardo:
No no no, the rapist trump's admin is NOT SUSTAINABLE!

There is going to be a great crash not in the financial markets but in the rapist fascist trump presidency quite soon.

I'm not sure this evil trump presidency can survive before the mid term elections. Every one is licking their wounds, even stupid deranged maga losing their businesses and clientele.

I told you guys the rapist trump is gonna disgracefully die and the majority of Americans will have a sigh of relief even bigger tham Osama or Hussein's death. And I believe it's the maga cult that will give him the judgement. In the stage-managed assassination attempts, both men were maga or republican leaning.

No, this hateful evil trump admin can not be sustainable. I feel pity for Nazi musk, he's gonna be a scape goat for the billionaire class soon, because they are going to have to find a way to appease the majority. So they are gonna chop him off with treason. Second thought, I don't feel pity for a Nazi billionaire, he needs to be deleted from this planet. As all Nazis.
Cry more. Cry harder
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:03pm On Feb 05, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
I think it's about time we begin to ask those Arabs for Trump, 'how far?'
Not sure they had much of a choice when the options in their opinion were to choose between Genocide and Relocation
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 3:05pm On Feb 05, 2025
basilico:
Pam Bondi. Represented Trump at the first sham impeachment. They made it look like there was no there there wrt Ukraine.Doubt she has forgotten,pardons or no pardons the truth must be revealed.
New AG.
---Felon 47---get the AG with questionable past---relating to the now defunct Felon's private university---

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/the-trump-foundation-pam-bondi-scandal/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:15pm On Feb 05, 2025
Livelystone01:
I'm laughing so hard at the conversation between you both on these issues. The reason is because I stood for those, said the Dems became too extreme in their policies and all that but it was called a centrist bs lol.

One thing I have learned to do is to give time to issues. It naturally plays out that when someone's right, time will redirect everything to his path.

During the last campaign, I told my wife something. I said, the Dems are doing the mistake Trump made in 2020.

In 2020, Trump focused on some issues that became scary for the neutral voters who thought he was pandering to only his base and it was costly. These neutrals had to tilt towards Biden and the Dems. In the run-up to the last election, the Dems became too extreme with the same extremism that became scary for the neutral voters in the past that they had to vote for Trump. It is important to note that the neutrals in every election are more than supporters of parties. They are the true deciders of elections. Over-pander to a direction and they are gone to the other side.

What did the Dems do after they lost? They began an online war against men, blacks and minorities who voted for Trump. Like they have been in the last 4 years, no convincing, only bullying to make sure you fall in line. Some said they won't have sex in the next 4 years, I wonder if they still hold on to that now.

It was so with the media. How they hounded lots of people who spoke against the system. Why fight opposing voices to the extent of cancelling them or using the social media to block their views if you aren't scared?
It was clearer when Zuckerberg said he would have done things differently now than before. Bezos was attacked for saying his media platform would stay out of picking a side few weeks to the election.

The COVID-19 mandate was so poor. You are a party of my body my choice but you hate the fact that someone was against a vaccine that has an agreement tied to it that whatever happens is not on the company. People were sacked for taking their stand against the vaccine. My question is, where did COVID-19 go at this point? Has it gone completely? Let's just forget the crap talk of herd immunity because most African countries didn't take the vaccine yet they got the same results of herd immunity.

Is it about the LGBTQXYZ issue? How will you allow a child to choose a gender but stop that same child from voting? If he's too young to have a better decision with voting why will that child be too old to choose something as delicate as gender change? Let's not forget the issue of trans in sports. Women were cancelled for speaking out. It even happened to Chimamanda whose event in Germany was cancelled because she spoke for women and they thought she was against Trans. The issue of school having more right than parents about the gender issue of their own children was also another extreme one.

There were lots of things that happened that were extreme, but the media in cohort with the previous administration made them look ordinary. Why will something ordinary cause you to lose an election if it was truly ordinary?

Lastly, the Dems do not try to convince people, they bully. I have seen it here. Imagine you have 4 years to convince a MAGA but you constantly called him names for picking a side, now he voted for same person because he didn't see you different from him.
Make I just stop here.

The above being said, I still think there are some things Trump shouldn't be touching at this point. He's becoming too extreme in my point of view.

Like I said, I will condemn him when he pushes off and I will support his policy when I see it's right for everyone. It doesn't make me a MAGA, I stand as a centrist bs if that's the tag now.
Why do you try so hard to convince other people you are a centrist or neutral or whatever you call it?
If you didn't see the inherent danger of who Trump was you were MAGA all the way.
Just put the red cap on and be at peace with yourself.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 3:27pm On Feb 05, 2025
basilico:
The 2023 report indicates govt overpaid $238 billion for federal programmes.

Money that would buy Ijebos a few sports cars, some bitcoins , help him get a wife and pay for for his meds.
---Looks like the 'First Buddy' and DOGE are doing all they can to identify ways to help Felon 47 get the tax cut for the oligarchs---
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:36pm On Feb 05, 2025
IjeBos:
Why do you try so hard to convince other people you are a centrist or neutral or whatever you call it?
If you didn't see the inherent danger of who Trump was you were MAGA all the way.
Just put the red cap on and be at peace with yourself.
Geez, dude, move on. Mind your business. He is regularly on both sides, even if I think he leans more to the left. But move on, old man. The guy said he is done with you; let it go. Why are you always grumpy?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:59pm On Feb 05, 2025
GloriousGbola:
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/17daily/1703/170308_AnotherContractor

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/13/politics/trump-small-business-owners/index.html

refusing to pay small contractors in full was a tried and tested trump tactic

because what will you do - waste money you dont have suing me

incidentally, it is a tactic a lot of nigerian big men also use very effectively

Mike adenuga is notorious for this

i experienced this directly during teh commissioning of his glo towers. all the vendors had not been paid and they downed tools. the man came, bullied everyone , work continued . i doubt anyone was ever paid in full. a friend told me that all those birthday ads for adenuga in the papers - some are people trying to remind him that he still owes them . and we are also seeing the outcome as glo is seriously lagging behind the other telcos

there is nothing trump is doing that i have not seen before on some scale

all the regulatory entities he and musk are shutting down?
i have seen that happen when well run businesses in nigeria come under new management

example - after cecilai ibru was kicked out of oceanic bank - she then took an interest on another ibru busines aerocontcarors - which ws one of the most reliable airlines in est africa. she chased out must of the upper management, embarked on numerous so called cost saving measures and the incidents and crashed began. today aero contractors is a shadow of itself

i don’t expect any of this to matter to you, or for you to even understand because you are a vacuous pretender

you claim to have worked in NNPC - well in any large oil company safety is a culture and during every meeting there is a safety briefing, especially when there are outsiders in the meeting. but you a so called oil industry hire will join the ignorant in cheering as osha is shut down.

sometime last year, we were invited to a project with a businessman who reminded me of trump. in the middle of the meeting, he started talking about signing NDA. and for what. he was not doing anything groundbreaking. we were not sending rockets to the moon. i immediately googled the man and found he is the brother of a nigerian politician who regularly uses authority to bully people.

i told my partner we needed to pull out of the job and that nothing good would come out of it. fortunately he listened to me, because he did not want to understand that the real purpose of NDAs is to bully and intimidate your employees or contractors or partners. because they cannot afford to employ lawyers full time and do not have SANs as friends incidentally may partner had worked with them previously and they had stiffed him on some technicality. believe it or not the man spent two days trying to browbeat and cajole my partner into working with them. i guess he could not believe that someone would not be swooning at the chance to work with a so called big name in nigeria.

ironically, six months later we are working on that very project right now - directly with the mans proposed client.

anyone who has worked in a third world country where money makes up the rule of law understands exactly how this will turn out. you don't understand anything beyond parroting empty slogans thrown about by right wing politicians
You wrote a lot of BS with emotions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 4:10pm On Feb 05, 2025
raumdeuter:
The American taxpayers dont want their taxes funding trans in Colombia or DEI in Serbia. The DoD budget is what is keeping our allies like you in Europe from speaking Russian now. The biggest country in the world needs a strong military
Your opinion and the truth are on different Planets. You have absolutely no clue about the side that you claim to stand for.

Over 600,000 private contractors supplying the DoD in many instances up to 300% over market prices. Some instances, $4900 for toilet seats. But your problem is DEI.

You are all bloody hypocrites. You want to save money? Go head on after Military Industrial Complex. Buncha bully-supporting MAGA nonsensicals going after powerless Serbia.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:18pm On Feb 05, 2025
nateevs:
Your opinion and the truth are on different Planets. You have absolutely no clue about the side that you claim to stand for.

Over 600,000 private contractors supplying the DoD in many instances up to 300% over market prices. Some instances, $4900 for toilet seats. But your problem is DEI.

You are all bloody hypocrites. You want to save money? Go head on after Military Industrial Complex. Buncha bully-supporting MAGA nonsensicals going after powerless Serbia.
So your point is what exactly?

When the Democrats were in power 12 of the last 16yrs why didn't they go after the DoD like you want? Rather they did nothing, but you want to point fingers at a guy doing something

When the Democrats get into office next, let them do whatever Trump is missing

Powerless Serbia because they exposed American tax payers money going to Serbia and Colombia to fund DEI and Trans

Let democrats get on TV and campaign trail to inform voters that their tax money was spent on trans in Serbia, DEI in Peru and EV in Vietnam
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter:
ObaIgwe1:
I wouldn't know the extent of corruption in US government, but I ordnarily will assume that US has better transparent and check and balance system against corruption compare to a country like Nigeria, but then I do not claim to know better.

On aid to Palestinians, the difference is that they were more or less at war at the time. So it was a temporary aid to help people that were displaced by war that US played and active role in. But then it is okay if it is in the best interest of US not to offer any humanitarian support during such conflict.
basilico:
USAID funding BBC with $2.6 million.
Obviously to slant their global coverage of pet topics.

****2,600,000 is millions .
****Apologies
Which tax paying citizen will be upset when you expose potential corruption in govt?

So what Dem want to campaign about is how upset they are that Trump or Musk is exposing potential corruption and mismanagement of public funds?

Check this link showing govt payment to Politico a new outlet and see example like one which shows a subscription for 37 users for 500k.

These things have been going on under both parties for decades until Trump and Elon came

https://www.usaspending.gov/search/?hash=ce007c986b96d38c983ae10dc0614b6a
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:43pm On Feb 05, 2025
raumdeuter:
Which tax paying citizen will be upset when you expose potential corruption in govt?

So what Dem want to campaign about is how upset they are that Trump or Musk is exposing potential corruption and mismanagement of public funds?

Check this link showing govt payment to Politico a new outlet and see example like one which shows a subscription for 37 users for 500k.

These things have been going on under both parties for decades until Trump an Elon came

https://www.usaspending.gov/search/?hash=ce007c986b96d38c983ae10dc0614b6a
what humanitarian stuff is the UK or EU funding in the United states?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 4:48pm On Feb 05, 2025
UK, Germany, China, Iran, Turkey & Saudi Arabia Reject Palestinians Displacement

What will Trump do now? Make another round of phone calls and explained how he was misunderstood, then spin the whole story and claim the rest of the world have agreed to is original intents and then his MAGAs score him a point again.

Trump is talking before thinking and by so doing ridiculing himself and the office he occupies.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:00pm On Feb 05, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
UK, Germany, China, Iran, Turkey & Saudi Arabia Reject Palestinians Displacement

What will Trump do now? Make another round of phone calls and explained how he was misunderstood, then spin the whole story and claim the rest of the world have agreed to is original intents and then his MAGAs score him a point again.

Trump is talking before thinking and by so doing ridiculing himself and the office he occupies.
I don't even know why they want to rebuild. Leave the place for them like that let them govern themselves and if they try crap again, make ruins out of the ruins
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 5:05pm On Feb 05, 2025
bemeruca:
I don't even know why they want to rebuild. Leave the place for them like that let them govern themselves and if they try crap again, make ruins out of the ruins
US doesn't need to spend a cent in the rebuilding, and I doubt they need US money. I am sure they will get enough support from many of the oil rich Arab countries and maybe also from some of the US allies Trump is pushing away now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:08pm On Feb 05, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
US doesn't need to spend a cent in the rebuilding, and I doubt they need US money. I am sure they will get enough support from many of the oil rich Arab countries and maybe also from some of the US allies Trump is pushing away now.
The US is Aproko that likes to throw away money.
is either they do what the US says for the money or they take the initiative without the US support.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:10pm On Feb 05, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
UK, Germany, China, Iran, Turkey & Saudi Arabia Reject Palestinians Displacement

What will Trump do now? Make another round of phone calls and explained how he was misunderstood, then spin the whole story and claim the rest of the world have agreed to is original intents and then his MAGAs score him a point again.

Trump is talking before thinking and by so doing ridiculing himself and the office he occupies.
Worse than that, Trump single handedly has cost the US the moral authority it has spent decades vocalizing/propagandizing.

Trump and the US's claim to authority now seems to be Might is right. Tearing up negotiated Trade deals, threatening countries over land, etc.etc.
It's the same authority Russia used to invade Ukraine, Israel uses in the Middle East and China will undoubtedly use in Taiwan.
Goodbye Rule Based International Order.
The world is going to get a lot more irrational and more dangerous for US citizens.

This is the reason US Presidents study voraciously, don't run their mouths in public and read off of prepared remarks with decisions that scores of people have been briefed on previously.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:16pm On Feb 05, 2025
basilico:
Trump intends to grow the military might
He has already begun to curb wastage like DEI, lbgtq, pride months etc
The money will go up not down but for actual military causes not social engineering
Grow the military might for what purpose? I thought y'all were anti-war. You want to find new ways of bleeding the national purse in the name "growing the military might"....

Or maybe you are just pussies who like to go after minorities but not the balls to take on those that are truly screwing the country.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:24pm On Feb 05, 2025
nateevs:
Grow the military might for what purpose? I thought y'all were anti-war. You want to find new ways of bleeding the national purse in the name "growing the military might"....

Or maybe you are just pussies who like to go after minorities but not the balls to take on those that are truly screwing the country.
stupid question. China is growing its military might for what purpose?
if Ukraine grew it military might to the tune of Turkey do you think they would have been invaded like that? why was Russia okay for Sweden and others to join NATO? because they cannot run those countries over. if it was not for the West, Ukraine would have been gone by now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter:
ObaIgwe1:
US doesn't need to spend a cent in the rebuilding, and I doubt they need US money. I am sure they will get enough support from many of the oil rich Arab countries and maybe also from some of the US allies Trump is pushing away now.
That is Trumps strategy and people keep falling for it. He starts with an extreme position, people react extremely, they come to the table and finally get a mid point
Won't be surprised if it goes this way

1. Trump says he will take Gaza
2. Saudi and other Arab nation reject
3. Trump invite them to talk If you don't want me to take Gaza, then all of you commit to controlling Gaza and getting rid of extremist turn into a prosperous nation like UAE, Qatar and Saudi
4. At end of the day Saudi Qatar UAE commit to controlling Gaza
5. Trump takes credit for bringing peace to the region
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:27pm On Feb 05, 2025
nateevs:
Grow the military might for what purpose? I thought y'all were anti-war. You want to find new ways of bleeding the national purse in the name "growing the military might"....

Or maybe you are just pussies who like to go after minorities but not the balls to take on those that are truly screwing the country.
Growing your military acts as a deterrent against external aggression
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:52pm On Feb 05, 2025
bemeruca:
stupid question. China is growing its military might for what purpose?
if Ukraine grew it military might to the tune of Turkey do you think they would have been invaded like that? why was Russia okay for Sweden and others to join NATO? because they cannot run those countries over. if it was not for the West, Ukraine would have been gone by now.
To add numbers to the payroll .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:57pm On Feb 05, 2025
It is shocking that a day before the accident, the plane crash in Washington, there was a potential crash that a pilot dodged by following his instrument over the ATC.

the next day a tragedy happened
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