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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:35pm On Feb 06, 2025
I know a bunch of people who work in this space.
Brilliant people who could have made a lot more money in corporate America but decided to sacrifice in order to make the world better and help others.
I feel bad for them and the sudden upheaval their lives will face.

There is going to be a special place in Hell for Trump and his acolytes.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 6:35pm On Feb 06, 2025
But if the republicans have their way and pass the bills they want. Anyone even a 13 year old who gets sexually assaulted will be put to death if she gets an abortion.

And before you say they can go to hospital and get care before it results in pregnancy, the republicans are also pushing for a ban on contraception. So women really have no defenses or ways of saying this is what they want for themselves or not.

Yay. Win for women.

We have bigger problems in America and men in women’s bathrooms or sports is the least of them.

Because the way you’re sounding, if you had the ability to vote, you would vote to have my right and my daughters’ rights to bodily autonomy taken away. All because you can’t see the forest for the trees.

A doctor just got criminally indicted for providing abortion to a teenager. We heard nothing about who’s responsible for the pregnancy but the focus is on the child and whoever helped her get her life back.

You might think feminists need to focus on trans people as a priority but that’s short sightedness. By the time we’re done dancing to the culture wars of trans people in public places. We won’t even have the right to vote.

Meanwhile your LGBTQ people in UK have more rights than the ones in America. You could focus that energy on them. Women in Afghanistan were free until fairly recently. And it all happened because people let extremists take over.

descarado:
Congratulations to that milestone.

Feminism should be fighting for women right not killing and squashing it.

A man in all female sports because of wokeism.
A man advertising pad because he thinks he is a woman and dresses so.
And women instead of fighting this are proudly supporting it
We have forgotten the core values of feminism.
Woke feminism is delusional.
So happy with this.

The world should take note

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 6:51pm On Feb 06, 2025
cococandy:
But if the republicans have their way and pass the bills they want. Anyone even a 13 year old who gets sexually assaulted will be put to death if she gets an abortion.

And before you say they can go to hospital and get care before it results in pregnancy, the republicans are also pushing for a ban on contraception. So women really have no defenses or ways of saying this is what they want for themselves or not.

Yay. Win for women.

We have bigger problems in America and men in women’s bathrooms or sports is the least of them.

Because the way you’re sounding, if you had the ability to vote, you would vote to have my right and my daughters’ rights to bodily autonomy taken away. All because you can’t see the forest for the trees.

A doctor just got criminally indicted for providing abortion to a teenager. We heard nothing about who’s responsible for the pregnancy but the focus is on the child and whoever helped her get her life back.

You might think feminists need to focus on trans people as a priority but that’s short sightedness. By the time we’re done dancing to the culture wars of trans people in public places. We won’t even have the right to vote.

Meanwhile your LGBTQ people in UK have more rights than the ones in America. You could focus that energy on them. Women in Afghanistan were free until fairly recently. And it all happened because people let extremists take over.
Cococandy, whether it's democrats or republican, it should have never ever surfaced in the first place.
Even if the president is Biden and ended it, I will still praise him.
That was a joke taken too far.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
descarado:
Cococandy, whether it's democrats or republican, it should have never ever surfaced in the first place.
Even if the president is Biden and ended it, I will still praise him.
That was a joke taken too far.
Regardless of whatever this administration wants to do about trans people, after everything is said and done, the net benefit to American women remains the same. It was never out of concern to women. And I need us to understand that. Yes maybe a random trans person who’s popular in sports will step down. Or they’ll get their own trans category idk. At the end of the day, the effect on the average woman is net zero.

However we’re celebrating them while they are actively removing the words female and woman from research funding? Studies on the health of women on pause because this administration doesn’t want to fund dei studies and of course women are “inherently lesser” in nature thus we must be DEI.

There’s so much more important stuff at stake and things like trans people advertising pads is stuff you care about when your literal life is not at risk.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:07pm On Feb 06, 2025
cococandy:
Regardless of whatever this administration wants to do about trans people, after everything is said and done, the net benefit to amerixan women remains the same. It was never out of concern to women. And I need us to understand that. Yes maybe a random trans person who’s popular in sports will step down. Or they’ll get their own trans category idk. At the end of the day, the effect on the average woman is net zero.

However we’re celebrating them while they are actively removing the words female and woman from research funding? Studies on the health of women on pause because this administration doesn’t want to find dei studies and of course women are “inherently lesser” in nature thus we must be DEI.

There’s so much more important stuff at stake and things like trans people advertising pads is stuff you care about when your literal life is not at risk.
You are a lunatic. Crazy person. Geez
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 7:18pm On Feb 06, 2025
How do you spell clusterfuck? T-R-U-M-P

Trump and Musk told people to resign, but now won't let them until may because they deem their work "Essential".
Maybe just maybe someone could have taken time to figure out what Federal Employees are actually "Essential".
Either way Lawsuits incoming and it'll be US Taxpayer money that will be sued to settle all this illegality.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 7:47pm On Feb 06, 2025
cococandy:
Regardless of whatever this administration wants to do about trans people, after everything is said and done, the net benefit to amerixan women remains the same. It was never out of concern to women. And I need us to understand that. Yes maybe a random trans person who’s popular in sports will step down. Or they’ll get their own trans category idk. At the end of the day, the effect on the average woman is net zero.

However we’re celebrating them while they are actively removing the words female and woman from research funding? Studies on the health of women on pause because this administration doesn’t want to find dei studies and of course women are “inherently lesser” in nature thus we must be DEI.

There’s so much more important stuff at stake and things like trans people advertising pads is stuff you care about when your literal life is not at risk.
Everybody knows what is mostly important to him or her.
My most concern is teaching my boys that they can wear pink in school and that it's normal.

It is the most important thing for me and most people who voted for Trump.

It is also very important world over as majority of the world look up to America.
A man should and must never advertise woman pad nor join in all female sport.
I don't subscribe to that madness.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 7:53pm On Feb 06, 2025
bemeruca:
You are a lunatic. Crazy person. Geez
Don't mind cococandy.
Everything trump is doing is all bad to her standard.

Even if he flood America with illegals, she will still complain.
Obama deported the highest number of illegals in America and we did not hear that at all.
Trump has not even reached half of what Obama did and it has been total outrage.

Now, it's bad that he stopped men from engaging in all female sports.

Kilode.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:03pm On Feb 06, 2025
Yes my rights, freedoms and desire to not live in a sharia society is more important to me than people’s annoyance at seeing trans people

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descarado:
Everybody knows what is mostly important to him or her.
My most concern is teaching my boys that they can wear pink in school and that it's normal.

It is the most important thing for me and most people who voted for Trump.

It is also very important world over as majority of the world look up to America.
A man should and must never advertise woman pad nor join in all female sport.
I don't subscribe to that madness.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 8:04pm On Feb 06, 2025
A man can't adv woman's pad ?

What about a man who does pap smears and deliver babies? Male OBGyn ?

The sport part I agree.
Also for me, crime is what i abhor. Whatever anyone claims to be is their cup of tea.

I would like for him to eradicate crimes focusing on those states with high crimes.

descarado:
Everybody knows what is mostly important to him or her.
My most concern is teaching my boys that they can wear pink in school and that it's normal.

It is the most important thing for me and most people who voted for Trump.

It is also very important world over as majority of the world look up to America.
A man should and must never advertise woman pad nor join in all female sport.
I don't subscribe to that madness.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:06pm On Feb 06, 2025
descarado:
Don't mind cococandy.
Everything trump is doing is all bad to her standard.

Even if he flood America with illegals, she will still complain.
Obama deported the highest number of illegals in America and we did not hear that at all.
Trump has not even reached half of what Obama did and it has been total outrage.

Now, it's bad that he stopped men from engaging in all female sports.

Kilode.
She is sick, a lot of them are crazy. I thought Obrigardo was crazy but she made him sound sane. Then you have gloriousgbola another crazy leftist that cries about everything, then you have their grumpy Oldman ijebos, perpetual victim and then you have budaatum, he makes excuses for child groomers all the time.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:06pm On Feb 06, 2025
descarado:
Don't mind cococandy.
Everything trump is doing is all bad to her standard.

Even if he flood America with illegals, she will still complain.
Obama deported the highest number of illegals in America and we did not hear that at all.
Trump has not even reached half of what Obama did and it has been total outrage.

Now, it's bad that he stopped men from engaging in all female sports.

Kilode.
I never said that was bad. Pls don’t put words in my mouth.

I’m saying we should have never let their party be in power because it will lead to a devastating loss to everyone involved.
Trans people getting out of sports is not worth the trade off we’re getting in return.

Your son being able to wear masculine colors (which no one took his right to do that away) is quite low on the totem pole of my daughter having to sit on her hands and hope she doesn’t get pregnant if she’s sexually assaulted.

The priorities here seem clear to me but you’re right. Everyone has what they consider important.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
bemeruca:
She is sick, a lot of them are crazy. I thought Obrigardo was crazy but she made him sound sane. Then you have gloriousgbola another crazy leftist that cries about everything, then you have their grumpy Oldman ijebos, perpetual victim and then you have budaatum, he makes excuses for child groomers all the time.
You support the party that banned abortions and blocked bills that gives women national access to birth control

Let me ask you a question. That’s if you can collect your brain to respond. In a state where the Republicans have successfully removed access to birth control, what is the solution you’re offering a woman who finds herself the victim of sexual assault but can’t prevent pregnancy because birth control is banned.?

I want a logical answer. Not the “you’re crazy” deflection you’re doing.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:12pm On Feb 06, 2025
bemeruca:
She is sick, a lot of them are crazy. I thought Obrigardo was crazy but she made him sound sane. Then you have gloriousgbola another crazy leftist that cries about everything, then you have their grumpy Oldman ijebos, perpetual victim and then you have budaatum, he makes excuses for child groomers all the time.
For a dude who impregnated a teenager, you are probably not the best messenger for Child Groomers.
What's even insane about this, you told us that very proudly.
Do you and Raumdeuter have a teenage fetish club you are members of?

But ey,
All part of that Fake Life of yours.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 8:15pm On Feb 06, 2025
armyofone:
A man can't adv woman's pad ?

What about a man who does pap smears and deliver babies? Male OBGyn ?

The sport part I agree.
Also for me, crime is what i abhor. Whatever anyone claims to be is their cup of tea.

I would like for him to eradicate crimes focusing on those states with high crimes.
A trans man. Common,that's mockery.
I initially don't care, but when my boys came back from school one day 2 to 3 yrs ago especially my first angrily say I don't wanna be a girl, I don't want to wear pink knicker( pant) that's when I started taking this stuff serious.
The girls check them out and tell who don't put on pinky.
Of course there was public outrage and council was forced to act as parents were ready to home school their kids.
I have never heard that nonsense again.
So yes, we all should be worried.

I watched the trans man that beat the hell out of his female opponent. See the glee.
It hunted me so much.
I will support anybody that will stop that madness. Trump or not.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:27pm On Feb 06, 2025
Texas maternal mortality committee that reviews maternal deaths related to pregnancy were ordered to stop reviewing those deaths for two years after their total abortion bans. Yay for women I guess.

This was after doctors started sounding alarm on how
Women were dying from sepsis and other related illnesses directly linked to the total abortion bans.

Anyone who cares about women should be concerned by this.

And actually you can care about both trans people in sports or advertising pads and still recognize which issue has higher priority.

If we let these people keep going, in no time, America will be like northern Nigeria. That’s their ultimate goal

These are the very kinds of cases state maternal mortality review committees are supposed to delve into, determining why they happened and how to stop them from happening again.

But panels in states that have recently imposed strict bans on abortion have done little to uncover whether the laws are contributing to maternal deaths, including tracking delays in care for pregnancy complications and making these problems known, a ProPublica investigation shows.

In fact, we found that in a few states, political leaders who backed the bans have stood in the way of measuring their consequences.

They have dismissed committees, slowing down their work. They have weeded out members openly critical of abortion bans and supportive of transparency.

Texas has gone as far as to legally prohibit its committee from reviewing deaths that are considered abortion-related. This could include some miscarriage care, health officials told ProPublica.

In two deaths of Texas women that ProPublica investigated, Porsha Ngumezi and Josseli Barnica had already miscarried when they were given misoprostol to help complete the process. The committee does not review cases that involve that drug because it’s also used for abortions, said committee chair Dr. Carla Ortique: “If they received medication, if they received any procedure, we will not get those records.” Chris Van Deusen, the spokesperson at the Texas Department of State Health Services, would not say whether Ngumezi’s and Barnica’s deaths would be reviewed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:45pm On Feb 06, 2025
cococandy:
You support the party that banned abortions and blocked bills that give women national access to birth control

Let me ask you a question. That’s if you can collect your brain to respond. In a state where the Republicans have successfully removed access to birth control, what is the solution you’re offering a woman who finds herself the victim of sexual assault but can’t prevent pregnancy because birth control is banned.?

I want a logical answer. Not the “you’re crazy” deflection you’re doing.
Madam, close your legs. Problem solved.
You put abortion on the ballot, unfortunately for you guys more people in the country know how to close their legs
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:46pm On Feb 06, 2025
bemeruca:
Madam, close your legs. Problem solved.
You put abortion on the ballot, unfortunately for you guys more people in the country know how to close their legs
What’s your solution for a person who closed their but was a victim of sexual assault?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:33pm On Feb 06, 2025
cococandy:
What’s your solution for a person who closed their but was a victim of sexual assault?
Terminate the pregnancy immediately
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 9:47pm On Feb 06, 2025
bemeruca:
Madam, close your legs. Problem solved.
You put abortion on the ballot, unfortunately for you guys more people in the country know how to close their legs
That's needlessly disrespectful. Your support for Trump does not mean you lose all consciousness of decorum. What the phuck is wrong with you guys?

Do you think married women don't have a need for abortion also? Are you that native? Do you mean they should close their legs too?

How do you encourage family planning even in healthy families when there's an ultra right wing trying to ban contraceptives?

Do you guys just completely disengage brain?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:02pm On Feb 06, 2025
nateevs:
That's needlessly disrespectful. Your support for Trump does not mean you lose all consciousness of decorum. What the phuck is wrong with you guys?

Do you think married women don't have a need for abortion also? Are you that native? Do you mean they should close their legs too?

How do you encourage family planning even in healthy families when there's an ultra right wing trying to ban contraceptives?

Do you guys just completely disengage brain?
I can't respond to you, you are too emotional
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:09pm On Feb 06, 2025
bemeruca:
Terminate the pregnancy immediately
Then you understand why republicans fighting to abolish abortion is a threat to the wellbeing of women. Or is this the point where you apply cognitive dissonance and find a reason to justify their actions; calling anyone (like me) who points it out crazy?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:10pm On Feb 06, 2025
bemeruca:
I can't respond to you, you are too emotional
When you’re confronted with reason and you don’t know how to respond, your default reaction is to call the other person emotional. It’s become stale.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 10:14pm On Feb 06, 2025
bemeruca:
I can't respond to you, you are too emotional
Respond to the substance then. You think insulting women gives your point more credence? Online gangster.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:14pm On Feb 06, 2025
cococandy:
Then you understand why republicans fighting to abolish abortion is a threat to the wellbeing of women. Or is this the point where you apply cognitive dissonance and find a reason to justify their actions; calling anyone (like me) who points it out crazy?
They are fighting abortion and infanticide from the likes of you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:15pm On Feb 06, 2025
nateevs:
Respond to the substance then. You think insulting women gives your point more credence? Online gangster.
No substance, just emotions
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:18pm On Feb 06, 2025
nateevs:
That's needlessly disrespectful. Your support for Trump does not mean you lose all consciousness of decorum. What the phuck is wrong with you guys?

Do you think married women don't have a need for abortion also? Are you that native? Do you mean they should close their legs too?

How do you encourage family planning even in healthy families when there's an ultra right wing trying to ban contraceptives?

Do you guys just completely disengage brain?
Thank you.

Not only do married people have a need for abortion, women who wanted their pregnancies but unfortunately suffered miscarriages are becoming afraid to go get emergency help. They are afraid someone will accuse them of “killing their babies”.

They don’t think of those that’ll let fear hold them in the house for too long until they get septic before they seek help.

Republicans are good at introducing bills and executive orders that they don’t think through and they have to end up walking it back when people start to get harmed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 10:19pm On Feb 06, 2025
bemeruca:
No substance, just emotions
You don reach America, abi you still dey road? Immigrating Fraud!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:20pm On Feb 06, 2025
bemeruca:
They are fighting abortion and infanticide from the likes of you.
Negative level IQ. Ugh
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 10:29pm On Feb 06, 2025
cococandy:
Thank you.

Not only do married people have a need for abortion, women who wanted their pregnancies but unfortunately suffered miscarriages are becoming afraid to go get emergency help. They are afraid someone will accuse them of “killing their babies”.

They don’t think of those that’ll let fear hold them in the house for too long until they get septic before they seek help.

Republicans are good at introducing bills and executive orders that they don’t think through and they have to end up walking it back when people start to get harmed.
Absolutely. This is why I seriously detest religious fanatics of any kind. It's doctrine before reason. The sad truth about this nonsense is that a lot of women are going to die.

The reality is that some of those women would include the wives, sisters, cousins and daughters of these lunatics who never stop one moment to think.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:43pm On Feb 06, 2025
nateevs:
Absolutely. This is why I seriously detest religious fanatics of any kind. It's doctrine before reason. The sad truth about this nonsense is that a lot of women are going to die.

The reality is that some of those women would include the wives, sisters, cousins and daughters of these lunatics who never stop one moment to think.
We are already dying. I got banned by spambot for sharing links couple days ago but these are easily verifiable cases that made the news. Real people with real faces whose family members opened up and talked about what happened to them. So it’s not propaganda

As a mom of daughters, I don’t know what to tell anyone who can’t understand why this is a priority to me rather than trans people in sports or bathrooms. Not dismissing their concerns but priorities pls.

I’m glad I live in a blue state. But how long before their madness reaches here since they’re keen on enforcing it nationwide?
Today should be Nevaeh Crain’s 20th birthday. Yet, because of Texas’ cruel abortion ban, today, her mother is forced to mourn her loss, rather than celebrate her birthday alongside her. Nevaeh died because emergency room doctors in three separate hospitals feared legal retribution from anti-abortion extremists and lost precious hours debating how to treat Nevaeh. Candi Miller, Amber Thurman, Josseli Barnica, and now, Nevaeh Crain. These are just some of the first people we know of who have lost their lives because of extreme and dangerous abortion bans that denied them essential, emergency care.

There was a chance that Nevaeh’s pregnancy could have been saved, and with the correct care, her life would have been spared. It is clear that as long as these dangerous bans on access to reproductive care are in place, pregnancy and miscarriage will be a potential death sentence in the dozens of states with abortion restrictions.

Abortion restrictions and bans do not stop the need for this essential health care; they just make it more difficult to access by forcing patients and providers into impossible situations. No one should be afraid to access medical care, and no health care provider should fear prosecution for giving the best standard of care.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:55pm On Feb 06, 2025
bemeruca:
They are fighting abortion and infanticide from the likes of you.
These are real women. Their children are motherless now. Their husbands are widowed and their parents have buried their adult children.

Think well before you jump on culture wars.
Like I often tell you guys, for some of you on this site, it’s just talk and debate so you don’t care because it doesn’t affect you.

For others, it’s their literal lives on the line.

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