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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:19am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
Porsha Ngumezi death was a result of medical malpractice not due to political or abortion ban.
cococandy and ObaIgwe1
Yea. Let’s not believe documentation of the medical professional who has everything to lose by lying on the chart. I don’t think you’ve ever worked in an American hospital. Falsify documentation can land a healthcare worker in jail and they’ll lose their license. But the biased website you’re reading this BS from is claiming the healthcare provider falsified documentation. So we are to believe them over the healthcare providers. Got it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 2:21am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
the truth wins again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KrkBBoNFcA
Kamala Harris has been a dull woman if we are truly unbiased. The media who pushed her intelligence during the campaign should all keep themselves out of journalism because it was clear to people how dull she was since she was VP. Every interview that wasn't edited or preconceived was a very big failure.

It was an own goal by the Dems to field such a dull candidate. Her VP is another baggage.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:24am On Feb 07, 2025
cococandy:
Yea. Let’s not believe documentation of the medical professional who has everything to lose by lying on the chart. I don’t think you’ve ever worked in an American hospital. Falsify documentation can land a healthcare worker in jail and they’ll lose their license. But the biased website you’re reading this BS from is claiming the healthcare provider falsified documentation. So we are to believe them over the healthcare providers. Got it.
The medical examiner determined that Porsha Ngumezi died from hemorrhage (severe blood loss). the hemorrhage resulted from heavy and prolonged bleeding during her miscarriage, compounded by her blood clotting disorder, and the treatment she received (misoprostol) was not effective in stopping the bleeding.
any one with open mind should look at the propublica's article. the article's title is misleading as usual then you would see the medical malpractice that caused the death
https://www.propublica.org/article/porsha-ngumezi-miscarriage-death-texas-abortion-ban
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:25am On Feb 07, 2025
Livelystone01:
Kamala Harris has been a dull woman if we are truly unbiased. The media who pushed her intelligence during the campaign should all keep themselves out of journalism because it was clear to people how dull she was since she was VP. Every interview that wasn't edited or preconceived was a very big failure.

It was an own goal by the Dems to field such a dull candidate. Her VP is another baggage.
When Trump says something everyone will call him a liar then the truth comes out.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 2:26am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
When Trump says something everyone will call him a liar then the truth comes out.
But Trump over exaggerate too much which is an issue for me.

My opinion on him doesn't count though, I'm just waiting to see his score card after 2 years.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:26am On Feb 07, 2025
Livelystone01:
Omo, America is becoming the more you look the less you see.

The biggest problems in the US today.
The media - MSM
The fanatics - Party supporters
The delusional fellows - Those c
The politicians - Trump/Biden/Obama (especially) and others on both sides
DOGE - This agency is looking like it's going to cause a very big self inflicted damage to the US international interests.


Make we just dy look.
you are against DOGE exposing the corrupt tentacles of the octopus?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:27am On Feb 07, 2025
GloriousGbola:
Post a link to your source.

or should we just take your word for it?

you think matters of life and death and women's health are also things to troll about?
His link is live action. A right wing media that uses phrases such a preborn child. Not biased at all

My source is the words of the actual medical providers who are verbalizing how these abortion laws are making it such that women are scared to go get help because of fear of prosecution.

Doctors are unsure of how to proceed in certain cases. Like if the woman is hemorrhaging and the fetus still has a heartbeat, they don’t have the assurance that they won’t be accused of killing a child by performing the procedure.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/doctors-worry-abortion-laws-will-hinder-treatment-of-patients-in-life-or-death-situations
Dr. David Hackney, Maternal Fetal Medicine Specialist:

It does help. And we certainly appreciate everything that the department is doing in that regard.

However, it doesn't solve many of the problems that we have, which are specific to the state with which we're in now. Unfortunately, some things are very clear in the state of Ohio. We cannot perform abortions for fetal genetic anomalies, fetal birth defects, even those in which we know that the child would not survive.

And we also cannot perform abortion solely because the pregnancy was conceived by rape. That is very straightforward. In my opinion, that is very, very tragic.

The other main category in which we sometimes get involved in abortion care is cases in which it's needed to either save the mother's life or on behalf of the mother's health. And this is where there's still a lot of things which are not clear.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:30am On Feb 07, 2025
Livelystone01:
But Trump over exaggerate too much which is an issue for me.

My opinion on him doesn't count though, I'm just waiting to see his score card after 2 years.
some of us that understand him knows when to take him literally. I argued this with a lot of people on the left here. they say Trump says tariff this, tariff that. All these things he is doing are in his Art of the Deal book. Last year before the election I kept telling folks the tariff is a bargaining tool used for negotiation. he is not stupid to tariff everything. That is exactly what he is doing. Even the Gaza remark is the same thing. All those countries that disagree will need to take responsibility now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:32am On Feb 07, 2025
cococandy:
His link is live action. A right wing media that uses phrases such a preborn child. Not biased at all

My source is the words of the actual medical providers who are verbalizing how these abortion laws are making it such that women are scared to go get help because of fear of prosecution.

Doctors are unsure of how to proceed in certain cases. Like if the woman is hemorrhaging and the fetus still has a heartbeat, they don’t have the assurance that they won’t be accused of killing a child by performing the procedure.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/doctors-worry-abortion-laws-will-hinder-treatment-of-patients-in-life-or-death-situations
the source is ProPublica madam. those stories are lies to sway the election mainly in Texas and it failed. you spread lies here. thats how you guys were spreading Hunter Biden's laptop lies.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 2:34am On Feb 07, 2025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZdRMBTF-hQ

george carlin summed up the so called pro life hypocrites

the streets of nigeria are full of almajiris, area boys etal because birth control and familky planning are far more than just 'closing your legs'

mandating people to bear children they don’t have the resources for is the easy part. what about the next 18 to 25 years?



https://www.humanium.org/en/a-shameful-chapter-of-irish-history-mother-and-baby-homes/
A shameful chapter of Irish history: mother and baby homes
Posted on March 8, 2022 Vanessa Cezarita CordeiroPosted in Children's Rights, Explotation, Human Rights, violence

A recent flagship report from the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (DCEDIY), a department of the Government of Ireland, has revealed that many religious institutions in Ireland have been enabling widespread abuse of unwed mothers and their children – often leading to death (Specia, 2021). Over the past twenty years, the country’s ‘mother and baby homes’ have seen over 9,000 deaths, a significantly higher mortality rate than the remainder of the population (Specia, 2021).

Documented serious forms of abuse are coupled with unethical forced births, vaccine trials and severe emotional abuse (Specia, 2021). Despite widespread calls for justice from victimised mothers and children, this “dark, difficult and shameful chapter” of Irish history has only recently been propelled into the limelight (Specia, 2021).
this is the reality of a world where abortion is outlawed

infant mortality and human suffering.

the fathers of the children - no where to be found. just as the fathers of almajiris are no where to be found either
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:39am On Feb 07, 2025
She died because she needed an emergency dnc which she declined in favor of the pill. You don’t think you can do 2+2 and somehow come to the obvious conclusion that unclear laws that threaten to prosecute women for such actions might have affected her decision like I was saying from the beginning of this conversation.

Granted I as a medical provider would’ve stuck my neck out to make her damn whatever consequences were to follow and at least make the decision to save her life in the moment. But you can’t guarantee what other medical providers would do if they’re not sure what the repercussions might be.

After fixating on her case, find a reason to justify the other deaths too. Tell us the threat of jail or death sentence has absolutely no effect on women’s decisions to ask for help and what kind of help they accept.

bemeruca:
The medical examiner determined that Porsha Ngumezi died from hemorrhage (severe blood loss). the hemorrhage resulted from heavy and prolonged bleeding during her miscarriage, compounded by her blood clotting disorder, and the treatment she received (misoprostol) was not effective in stopping the bleeding.
any one with open mind should look at the propublica's article. the article's title is misleading as usual then you would see the medical malpractice that caused the death
https://www.propublica.org/article/porsha-ngumezi-miscarriage-death-texas-abortion-ban
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:40am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
the source is ProPublica madam. those stories are lies to sway the election mainly in Texas and it failed. you spread lies here. thats how you guys were spreading Hunter Biden's laptop lies.
Whatever floats your boat mister.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:43am On Feb 07, 2025
cococandy:
She died because she needed an emergency dnc which she declined in favor of the pill. You don’t think you can do 2+2 and somehow come to the obvious conclusion that unclear laws that threaten to prosecute women for such actions might have affected her decision like I was saying from the beginning of this conversation.

Granted I as a medical provider would’ve stuck my neck out to make her damn whatever consequences were to follow and at least make the decision to save her life in the moment. But you can’t guarantee what other medical providers would do if they’re not sure what the repercussions might be.

After fixating on her case, find a reason to justify the other deaths too. Tell us the threat of jail or death sentence has absolutely no effect on women’s decisions to ask for help and what kind of help they accept.
from the bold and what you are saying i think you have no clue of what you are arguing
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:45am On Feb 07, 2025
cococandy:
Whatever floats your boat mister.
madam, you have been caught spreading lies that were spread. this is your sky is falling mantra
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 2:58am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
some of us that understand him knows when to take him literally. I argued this with a lot of people on the left here. they say Trump says tariff this, tariff that. All these things he is doing are in his Art of the Deal book. Last year before the election I kept telling folks the tariff is a bargaining tool used for negotiation. he is not stupid to tariff everything. That is exactly what he is doing. Even the Gaza remark is the same thing. All those countries that disagree will need to take responsibility now.
...but where is BLM now?

Are they only focused on agendas?

I've been wondering.

Too many corrupt systems in the US calling themselves NGOs.

SMH
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 3:02am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
you are against DOGE exposing the corrupt tentacles of the octopus?
No I do not oppose it, as a matter of fact I love and appreciate accountability a lot. What I need the agency to do though is to get verifiable facts and understand what and where these finances are going to before exposing them to the public. So many people are already angry, anything will inflame them to not be logical.

Also, I think the agency needs to be bi-partisan so as to have members from both divides to work together in order to get the best result possible.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:02am On Feb 07, 2025
Livelystone01:
...but where is BLM now?

Are they only focused on agendas?

I've been wondering.

Too many corrupt systems in the US calling themselves NGOs.

SMH
BLM is a fraud. they have been exposed for their corruption. nobody trusts them again.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 3:05am On Feb 07, 2025
https://www.wsj.com/tech/doge-staffer-resigns-over-racist-posts-d9f11a93?st=zAUFux&reflink=article_copyURL_share

A key DOGE staff member who gained access to the Treasury Department’s central-payments system resigned Thursday after he was linked to a deleted social-media account that advocated racism and eugenics.

Marko Elez, a 25-year-old who is part of a cadre of Elon Musk lieutenants deployed by the Department of Government Efficiency to scrutinize federal spending, resigned after The Wall Street Journal asked the White House about his connection to the account.

“Just for the record, I was racist before it was cool,” the account posted in July, according to the Journal’s review of archived posts.
“You could not pay me to marry outside of my ethnicity,” the account wrote on X in September. “Normalize Indian hate,” the account wrote the same month, in reference to a post noting the prevalence of people from India in Silicon Valley.

After the Journal inquired about the account, White House spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said that Elez had resigned from his role.
In recent days, Elez had emerged at the center of a legal battle over access to sensitive taxpayer information and systems the Treasury Department uses to process trillions of dollars in payments annually.

Thursday morning, a U.S. District Court judge ruled that Elez could continue to access the department’s payment systems, but limited his ability to share the data. Elez resigned later that same day.
Elez didn’t respond to repeated requests for comment.

Elez attended Rutgers University, where he majored in computer science. As a sophomore, he co-founded a company, Unimetrics.io, that aimed to connect high-schoolers with mentors who could help burnish their college applications.
Elez went on to work for Musk at SpaceX, including on its Starlink satellites, and X, where he focused on artificial intelligence, according to archives of his personal website.
DOGE has radically upended the federal government in the weeks since President Trump’s inauguration, including by largely dismantling the U.S. Agency for International Development.
Musk personally urged people to apply to DOGE on X in December, promising long hours and little pay in exchange for the chance to fundamentally remake the federal government. Some of those who answered the call appear to be young Musk loyalists, steeped in internet culture, who share his worldview.

In an interview Thursday with Bloomberg, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent defended the work of DOGE employees appended to the Treasury Department, describing them as “highly trained professionals.”
this is representative of the team tasked with reshaping the us government

racist, edgelord
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:06am On Feb 07, 2025
Livelystone01:
No I do not oppose it, as a matter of fact I love and appreciate accountability a lot. What I need the agency to do though is to get verifiable facts and understand what and where these finances are going to before exposing them to the public. So many people are already angry, anything will inflame them to not be logical.

Also, I think the agency needs to be bi-partisan so as to have members from both divides to work together in order to get the best result possible.
what fact did they get wrong?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 3:08am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
BLM is a fraud. they have been exposed for their corruption. nobody trusts them again.
Isn't this what I was saying about the extremism of the Dems? They used this NGO to push an agenda, so far left that they couldn't even survive in an ordinary environment.

Now they've hibernated or shut down.

Did they even help any black community to overcome their pertinent challenges, I don't think so.

The Dems just need to do a soul search, review the issues that cost them and then align themselves to the more moderate then the mid-term will favour them. I want them to have the house or senate to check mate Trump. He shouldn't have too much power to continue on this path.

I am beginning to dislike the rate at which Trump drops EOs, so many look too personal and short sighted in my opinion.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 3:10am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
what fact did they get wrong?
I still hold the position that most of these USAID revelations should be studied first before dropping to the public.

Most are slush funds to settle for some American interests in other nations. They cannot be named because of it gets out they are operating something of such in foreign nations, it woul become a problem.

I don't know how to explain to make you understand that I see those as payments for clandestine operations that helps America and their interests in those countries.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:14am On Feb 07, 2025
Livelystone01:
I still hold the position that most of these USAID revelations should be studied first before dropping to the public.

Most are slush funds to settle for some American interests in other nations. They cannot be named because of it gets out they are operating something of such in foreign nations, it woul become a problem.

I don't know how to explain to make you understand that I see those as payments for clandestine operations that helps America and their interests in those countries.
They said Politico received government aid to the tune of 8 million dollars. the left and the right started making misinformation out of it. that was a fact, they did get 8 million in 2024. USAID was part of the government aid they got
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:35am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
from the bold and what you are saying i think you have no clue of what you are arguing
When you don’t have anything tangible to respond with
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:42am On Feb 07, 2025
GloriousGbola:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZdRMBTF-hQ

george carlin summed up the so called pro life hypocrites

the streets of nigeria are full of almajiris, area boys etal because birth control and familky planning are far more than just 'closing your legs'

mandating people to bear children they don’t have the resources for is the easy part. what about the next 18 to 25 years?
That’s the ultimate plan.

Ban abortions, ban contraceptives. Take away social programs that help people out of poverty. Remove DEI from the workplace (which includes pregnant women) and ultimately you have a baby boom of American almajiri who have no choice but to work for minimum wage or less.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:43am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
madam, you have been caught spreading lies that were spread. this is your sky is falling mantra
Yes the truth is that right wing opinion piece you posted from live action.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:47am On Feb 07, 2025
Livelystone01:
Isn't this what I was saying about the extremism of the Dems? They used this NGO to push an agenda, so far left that they couldn't even survive in an ordinary environment.

Now they've hibernated or shut down.

Did they even help any black community to overcome their pertinent challenges, I don't think so.

The Dems just need to do a soul search, review the issues that cost them and then align themselves to the more moderate then the mid-term will favour them. I want them to have the house or senate to check mate Trump. He shouldn't have too much power to continue on this path.

I am beginning to dislike the rate at which Trump drops EOs, so many look too personal and short sighted in my opinion.
You are so out of your depth and sound like it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:51am On Feb 07, 2025
cococandy:
When you don’t have anything tangible to respond with
but you don't even know what D and C are. Saying she rejected it is her fault for making you look stupid. but that is not what happened which means you have no clue about your own story
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:52am On Feb 07, 2025
Here is Marco Rubio talking about the importance of foreign aid and USAID. (starts at the 1:15 mark).
In fact in 2022 he sent a letter to Joe Biden saying he should increase the USAID budget.
Well until he became a Trump sycophant. (Kinda like Raumdeuter when he used to call Trump a racist.)

I wish I could say I'm shocked at the deviousness of his hypocrisy and lying. But I can't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iyre-qTsds
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:56am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
but you don't even know what D and C are. Saying she rejected it is her fault for making you look stupid. but that is not what happened which means you have no clue about your own story
Gosh you’re dense

PS I would never blame an uninformed patient.

I blame the lawmakers practicing medicine without license. Writing laws on things they don’t understand and causing fear that stops women like her from seeking help before it’s too late.

But you’re too dense to understand that. Watch you come back with another warped grasp of what the implications of this meddling in women’s reproductive healthcare means.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:56am On Feb 07, 2025
IjeBos:
Here is Marco Rubio talking about the importance of foreign aid and USAID. (starts at the 1:15 mark).
In fact he used to say USAID was underfunded.
Well until he became a Trump sycophant. (Kinda like Raumdeuter when he used to call Trump a racist.)

I wish I could say about the deviousness hus hypocrisy and lying shows. But I can't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iyre-qTsds
at 52 years you still be mumu. He praised it before just like people were praising Sam Bankman Freid before they realized he is stealing people's money and gambling with it as he donated to democrats.

With the information surfacing i doubt he is going to praise USAID again.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:59am On Feb 07, 2025
cococandy:
Gosh you’re dense

PS I would never blame an uninformed patient.

I blame the lawmakers practicing medicine without license. Writing laws on things they don’t understand and causing fear that stops women like her from seeking help before it’s too late.

But you’re too dense to understand that. Watch you come back with another warped grasp of what the implications of this meddling in women’s reproductive healthcare means.
imagine going to the hospital in a critical situation, Doctors want to perform a procedure on you but you reject it because you think politicians put laws then turn around and blame the politician for rejecting a procedure the doctors wanted to perform on you for banning the procedure grin grin

you are very donkey hahahaha
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:05am On Feb 07, 2025
bemeruca:
at 52 years you still be mumu. He praised it before just like people were praising Sam Bankman Freid before they realized he is stealing people's money and gambling with it as he donated to democrats.

With the information surfacing i doubt he is going to praise USAID again.
You're too stupid to even understand what USAID does or the purpose of the programs as it relates to US foreign policy or US soft Power.
As if Marco Rubio who was a senior member of the Foreign Relations Committee didn't' know what kind of programs USAID ran.
Go sit in your corner, suck your thumb and continue to lie about living in the US or whatever state you are lying about living in now.

Who the fuk are you to even pretend you have some knowledge on this?
You should spend your time learning how to speak and write English before opening your mouth to me again.
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