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Wrackcityoffici:
Bro this is trash, these people offer services and should be compensated, studio session costs money, producer no send say na gospel song or not, same with video directors…you thriving while you expect everyone to serve you for free, if gospel artists are broke, then the only models the society would have are the circular artist…empower these gospel artists and stop trying to manipulate them using religion

studio sessions? You really know Christ Embassy at all. There are live studio facilities for more than two hundred choir.
Frank Edwards Recorded his first album in one of Loveworld studios.
What do you really want? Money? Cars?
What do you want just name it.

You all just have itchy mouth when it gets to the Christ Embassy

symbianDON:
you are getting it all wrong Bro. According to Christian standards, musicians in the house of God, ought to be in the choir making music and not hopping from studio to studio. The point is that, music in the house of God ought to be for solemn worship. By commercializing it, the whole essence is lost!

And David was a minstrel where? In the palace right? Not a part of some singing company.

You see this argument about charging or not is neither here nor there! This people have families who they need to take of and the church they belong to isn't going to foot their bills!

So, just like the parable of the Talents they should do what it says "trade with it"- (broadcast it) and make gain into the kingdom ( win souls) and if they be lead to either charge or not charge, let God and their conscience be judge! Simple!

All this hysteria about someone leaving one church is just plain unnecessary! No pastor owns any sheep, God owns them all and lead some your way to pastor and if somewhere in their journey, your paths diverge, so be it. To God be the glory for making that pastor an impact in their journey but shouldn't attempt to want to "take credit for making them"

Giftuzorchukwu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HozauggE40?si=M_02PY_8dRV2Qa0M



https://dailypost.ng/2025/02/07/why-sinach-frank-edwards-others-left-christ-embassy-pastor-chris-oyakhilome/

only oyakhilome will remain with his business, others have to leave at some point

I no dey like put mouth for church matters.

Mrexcell:
Oga go and sit down african idol worshippers are far worse are they not the same people preparing deadly charms for kidnappers, arm robbers and money ritualists who kill and harvest human body parts?

Those doing arm robbers, kidnappers, banditry and rituals are either Muslims or Christians
In fact the majority of those ritual killers go to church and mosques.

Ifa, is not evil, it is pure white and light and spiritual wisdom. Another one I can point to is Buddhism and some Asian and Native American religions
I know you don’t have much of brain power, so you can’t reason beyond your sentiments… you are of course nothing but a programmed slave and bot to keep the system running..
The most violent and evil religions remain Islam and Christianity… the gods of confusion and division

Omoawoke:
Those doing arm robbers, kidnappers, banditry and rituals are either Muslims or Christians
In fact the majority of those ritual killers go to church and mosques.

Ifa, is not evil, it is pure white and light and spiritual wisdom. Another one I can point to is Buddhism and some Asian and Native American religions
I know you don’t have much of brain power, so you can’t reason beyond your sentiments… you are of course nothing but a programmed slave and bot to keep the system running..
The most violent and evil religions remain Islam and Christianity… the gods of confusion and division

How are you not sure u are also a slave of ur ifa religion?

franchasofficia:
They should sing for free but they must pay tithe and offering?

Like i tire oh..

mirrael68:
May God open your eyes.
I hope the smart phone you used to write was produced by those your ancestors.
Talking for Christianity- it cant be validated by some men doing it right or rubbished by other men doing it wrongly. It's a personal relationship with Jesus that has rewards for here and the hereafter. Those who have it can give their lives for Him. It's not race based. That's a deception from hell.
For those who believe no explanations are necessary but for those who don't, none will suffice.

Sorry, even though I could have ignored you. I just decided to reply a few of you… I know majority are meant to be idiotic and spiritually dumb so the system can run… and you lots are helpless

But for the sake of enlightenment, know this… Christianity and Islam has zero contribution to technological advancement.

The inventors of the phones and everything we enjoy today are majorly people who don’t believe in fairy tales Christianity… they are too smart for to believe those bible shitts
Secondly, Japan and China and Korea are examples of technological advanced countries who practice their own very ancestral beliefs

A white man even worshiping Jesus still understandable even though most of them are fast abandoning that crap ( of course, a white man worships a white Jesus of white religion still understandable even though)

An Arab worshiping Islam still understandable, Islam and Koran written in Arabic and the gods are Arab gods and names

An India doing Hinduism
Etc and so on

But when it comes to Africa, the nation of confused retardded souls with no direction… a black man divided between the Arab god and the white man god… worst of all, the gods used in enslaving and colonizing them…
It’s beyond imagination the words to describe that magnitude of insanity, stupidity, idiocy, lack of self awareness and the mother of all shamelessness

A Yoruba or Igbo man abandons his own culture and dresses like an Arab, learn Arabic and bears Abdullahi and Mohammed …he has to learn Arabic to speak to his creator (and you say he get sense)
Another Yoruba man or Igbo Christian bears James, Israel, Peter… imagine a Yoruba man bearing Israel (name of another country)

justmondris:
They all fell from grace to grass when they left Christ embassy. There is something called grace. if you decide to carry shoulder for grace because your are now rich and famous, I sorry for you. God will abandon you and you will be back to square 0.

Any scriptural reference

It's not just Gospel singers who are commerciallising their gifts, but also most preachers today.
In fact the church system has been heavily commercialised.
Though those singers are not forever bound to remain in Christ Embassy.

Omoawoke:
Gangs of thieves

Money making organizations

Foreign religion is the biggest threat to Africa…
Spiritual trap and mental slavery..

First of all, it will never be well with those that brought this evil called abrahimic religion to blacks

Secondly, it will never be well with modern people that propagate this diseases called Abrahmic religion in our time
Yes you heard me, if you are a preacher and adherent follower of this foreign religions, and you hate your ancestors and call them evil… it can never be well with you all

But if you embrace their education (didn't follow your forefather by burning bush or ringing bell to disseminate information etc) you embrace their cloth and food to including their devices like you just did. It will never be well with you too, fool

Omoawoke:
Gangs of thieves

Money making organizations

Foreign religion is the biggest threat to Africa…
Spiritual trap and mental slavery..

First of all, it will never be well with those that brought this evil called abrahimic religion to blacks

Secondly, it will never be well with modern people that propagate this diseases called Abrahmic religion in our time
Yes you heard me, if you are a preacher and adherent follower of this foreign religions, and you hate your ancestors and call them evil… it can never be well with you all

You're already the one whom it will never be well with.

Giftuzorchukwu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HozauggE40?si=M_02PY_8dRV2Qa0M



https://dailypost.ng/2025/02/07/why-sinach-frank-edwards-others-left-christ-embassy-pastor-chris-oyakhilome/

Very true Pastor

Was it at Christ Embassy that Oyakhilome started as a Christian, and his ministry? Why did he leave the previous church/s he attended? What makes him think he owns these artists when he refused to be owned by someone else?

When you check old timers gospel singer like voice of cross,agape love singer, you will know the difference from this new generation guys in the industry

Omoawoke:
Gangs of thieves

Money making organizations

Foreign religion is the biggest threat to Africa…
Spiritual trap and mental slavery..

First of all, it will never be well with those that brought this evil called abrahimic religion to blacks

Secondly, it will never be well with modern people that propagate this diseases called Abrahmic religion in our time
Yes you heard me, if you are a preacher and adherent follower of this foreign religions, and you hate your ancestors and call them evil… it can never be well with you all




People, can you see why we say Africa has a long way to go…

People, see why I say the problem of Africa is the deranged black man himself who has no touch with history..

History needs to be made compulsory.
This lost helpless soul for example thinks his ancestors were naked and savages and thanks the white man for slavery and colonization..

Isn’t that funny, a black man justifying slavery of himself.. truly some people deserve to be chained and thrown into zoo for entertainment..

First the world moves by people learning from one another and sharing ideas… the same whites came to Africa and couldn’t take their eyes off your artifacts They stole them and looted it dry and distorted your history..

Japan and China and Korea are examples of nations advanced technology and yet didn’t lose their identity

I shouldn’t have replied someone like you because you are a hopeless case…

Don’t give mirror to a cave man, he will scream and shout demon!
Don’t give quadratic equation to a village illiterate, he will call it madness
Never give enlightenment to a fool, it will call it madness
it will never be able to contemplate it…
Replying a thing like you is a waste of time, an attempt to enlighten a thing called you is impossible
And that goes for many of your filthy ignorant kinds

Self gratification, your forefathers do no shit. Except using human for ritual and archaic and barbaric way of life. Leave Korean and Japan out of this. All what blacks no how to do is make empty boast, no brain to think for himself. Unless you can prove that African religion is better or measure up, take down those curses.

franchasofficia:
They should sing for free but they must pay tithe and offering?

no mind the man. He's a multibillionaire, but wants his singers to remain papers.

Giftuzorchukwu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HozauggE40?si=M_02PY_8dRV2Qa0M



https://dailypost.ng/2025/02/07/why-sinach-frank-edwards-others-left-christ-embassy-pastor-chris-oyakhilome/

Everybody is a thief, I mean every body both the accuse and the accuser

franchasofficia:
They should sing for free but they must pay tithe and offering?

No sensible person should charge a fee to a church from which they emerged in order to lead in worship. These guys are making enough on album sales, streaming services and even international and national engagement. But they must also collect money form their church for singing during programmes? Haba.

1. Pastor did not mention any name(s) so those calling name(s) are merely speculating

2. Singing in church is a calling not compulsorily having a good voice though this is an added feature

3. For those saying where are the estranged singers now, well you should know they are all doing excellently well with their families, still born again and full of the Holy Ghost loving God

4. Many things happened that are not made public and I'd like to say what we know now is all one sided

5. The origin of singers in the church came from the Asaph tribe of Israel in the Old Testament chosen God to permanently stay in the temple singing praise and thanksgiving to God Almighty continuosly,
and they are not allowed to do circular jobs because they are from the tribe of Levi. They are fed from the proceeds the Israelites bring to the temple as sacrifices which the Priests also benefit from.

6. Many commenting here have no idea of the struggles theses guys went through in order to resolve this matter and how they were denied audience with Pastor

7. None of these singers would want to leave but they were literally pushed to the back for reasons beyond mentioning here although they need to re-evaluate their activities and manner of life.

8. NO ONE has the monopoly of the Holy Spirit, no human died for anyone, the only being that has monopoly over any life is God Almighty and He alone gives grace to anyone who desires it.
We shall all stand before God Almighty to give account individually including Pastor.

9. There are many complexities about this matter that one day will come to the open but for now, the singers presently in the church are well taken care of by the church and doing very well too.

10. What the estranged singers should realize is that this matter should serve as a reality check which should reset their manner of life and correct them where necessary

11. Finally, Pastor does not harbor any hatred towards them and i hope they don't either rather they should seek clarification from God and live for Him alone. Follow God NOT man!

justmondris:
They all fell from grace to grass when they left Christ embassy. There is something called grace. if you decide to carry shoulder for grace because your are now rich and famous, I sorry for you. God will abandon you and you will be back to square 0.

I'm not sure they fell from grace oh. How will they feed themselves if they are not making money with their craft?

They all did well for Christ Embassy, they were all under Love World outreach, Christ Embassy paying them, they left to be independent and to be free. Our Pastors see music artist as competitors and want to cage you. God is God of freedom. From revenues from their music, a
jet was bought for Pastor Chris. Samsung was also from Christ Embassy.
Pastor needs them back, everyone has his or her role in the church, Pastor should let have their place.
Matthew 5 vs 14 - 15.
Pastor Chris should thank God, they are still Christ, they cannot be caged.
They will still speak out

franchasofficia:
They should sing for free but they must pay tithe and offering?

That's the problem... they are also ministers like the pastor's. If the pastors are getting remuneration for their services it became imperative for musicians to be treated likewise. But I don't believe that's what Jesus would have wanted for His church.

Mercy Chinwo comes to mind!

The love of money is truly the root of all evil. Money is a spirit... Once they tasted it, they got hooked and didn't want to look back. But you cannot serve God and mammon at the same time. One thing I pray, God, is that money should never take me away from you.

fuckingAyaya:
Since then they haven't been theirselves especially sinach, mumu Frank Edward ran to dunamis alter to pledge allegiance, he forgot the alter that made him famous worldwide. Maybe they thought God is 2.

Don't blame them. Of what use is your talent if it doesn't bring food to your table? Will pastor Chris feed them and take care of their personal needs? Pastor Chris is trying to cage them.

Omoawoke:
Sorry, even though I could have ignored you. I just decided to reply a few of you… I know majority are meant to be idiotic and spiritually dumb so the system can run… and you lots are helpless

But for the sake of enlightenment, know this… Christianity and Islam has zero contribution to technological advancement.

The inventors of the phones and everything we enjoy today are majorly people who don’t believe in fairy tales Christianity… they are too smart for to believe those bible shitts
Secondly, Japan and China and Korea are examples of technological advanced countries who practice their own very ancestral beliefs

A white man even worshiping Jesus still understandable even though most of them are fast abandoning that crap ( of course, a white man worships a white Jesus of white religion still understandable even though)

An Arab worshiping Islam still understandable, Islam and Koran written in Arabic and the gods are Arab gods and names

An India doing Hinduism
Etc and so on

But when it comes to Africa, the nation of confused retardded souls with no direction… a black man divided between the Arab god and the white man god… worst of all, the gods used in enslaving and colonizing them…
It’s beyond imagination the words to describe that magnitude of insanity, stupidity, idiocy, lack of self awareness and the mother of all shamelessness

A Yoruba or Igbo man abandons his own culture and dresses like an Arab, learn Arabic and bears Abdullahi and Mohammed …he has to learn Arabic to speak to his creator (and you say he get sense)
Another Yoruba man or Igbo Christian bears James, Israel, Peter… imagine a Yoruba man bearing Israel (name of another country)

I legit thought you were about the make sense until you mentioned that Christianity and Islam has zero contribution to technological advancement. I know sometimes emotions can get mixed up in argument but please even if you can't do research still manage to open another tab and browse to know if what you are about to say is absolutely nonsense or not. The list of Christians who were and are inventors are numerous.
Pierre Varignon, Guido Grandin, Stephen Hales, Blaise Pascal, Isaac Newton, Samuel Morse, Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Pasteur. Just to mention a few. I know you don't believe in religion and I'm not trying to convince you but please try to argue with truthful information.

Bluebrain101:
I legit thought you were about the make sense until you mentioned that Christianity and Islam has zero contribution to technological advancement. I know sometimes emotions can get mixed up in argument but please even if you can't do research still manage to open another tab and browse to know if what you are about to say is absolutely nonsense or not. The list of Christians who were and are inventors are numerous.
Pierre Varignon, Guido Grandin, Stephen Hales, Blaise Pascal, Isaac Newton, Samuel Morse, Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Pasteur. Just to mention a few. I know you don't believe in religion and I'm not trying to convince you but please try to argue with truthful information.

If you want to engage me in a debate..

I can organize a virtual one for you and many of you with half baked brains

All of you can team up together and gang up against me alone… I will embarrass all of you together with facts and not sentiments…
And when I’m done, either you rethink your life or accept you are a dimwit who is forever irredeemable… but should never ever talk when people with intelligence are talking

You obviously are corroded with myths, fairytales and nonsensical tales you don’t even know history..

Go and find out what the early church did to scientists..

Bros, ignorance is a crime in this generation of Ai, google and every tools available. 10 years ago, it is still a bit understandable but not forgivable this generation..

Just carry your phone and google search how the church suppressed early scientists and even killed many of them.

The few scientists that feared for their lives were forced to dedicate their works to church and accept Christianity just to live

Bros, go and do the reading yourself, I can’t be lecturing fools… it’s stressful

Omoawoke:
If you want to engage me in a debate..

I can organize a virtual one for you and many of you with half baked brains

All of you can team up together and gang up against me alone… I will embarrass all of you together with facts and not sentiments…
And when I’m done, either you rethink your life or accept you are a dimwit who is forever irredeemable… but should never ever talk when people with intelligence are talking

You obviously are corroded with myths, fairytales and nonsensical tales you don’t even know history..

Go and find out what the early church did to scientists..

Bros, ignorance is a crime in this generation of Ai, google and every tools available. 10 years ago, it is still a bit understandable but not forgivable this generation..

Just carry your phone and google search how the church suppressed early scientists and even killed many of them.

The few scientists that feared for their lives were forced to dedicate their works to church and accept Christianity just to live

Bros, go and do the reading yourself, I can’t be lecturing fools… it’s stressful

No need for any insults. In fact I think you should be a far less informed athesist. I'll advise you to go and read about Lee Strobel. A highly man who knew about Atheism more than you can imagine. Who even won debate against religious scholars!
The truth is not something one can overturn. The highest thing one can do is to be delusional or reject it for oneself.

I can give you the source of the info detailing christian inventors, that if you'll be inquisitive enough to read. I hope so.
First read about Lee Strobel, then read through the Britannica encyclopedia to see the archive of information. If after everything you can't still find a Christian who contributed to technology the yoh can reply me.

fuckingAyaya:
Since then they haven't been theirselves especially sinach, mumu Frank Edward ran to dunamis alter to pledge allegiance, he forgot the alter that made him famous worldwide. Maybe they thought God is 2.

hahaha. Too bad.

You don't break away from the Altar that breaks you into limelight

Omoawoke:
If you want to engage me in a debate..

I can organize a virtual one for you and many of you with half baked brains

All of you can team up together and gang up against me alone… I will embarrass all of you together with facts and not sentiments…
And when I’m done, either you rethink your life or accept you are a dimwit who is forever irredeemable… but should never ever talk when people with intelligence are talking

You obviously are corroded with myths, fairytales and nonsensical tales you don’t even know history..

Go and find out what the early church did to scientists..

Bros, ignorance is a crime in this generation of Ai, google and every tools available. 10 years ago, it is still a bit understandable but not forgivable this generation..

Just carry your phone and google search how the church suppressed early scientists and even killed many of them.

The few scientists that feared for their lives were forced to dedicate their works to church and accept Christianity just to live

Bros, go and do the reading yourself, I can’t be lecturing fools… it’s stressful

To make it easier for you. Since you already used ChatGPT to get those information why not prompt it to give you the list of Christians who have contributed to technology, health and science advancement? It's a simple as that!

Send the pictures with the prompt after you're done

Bluebrain101:
No need for any insults. In fact I think you should be a far less informed athesist. I'll advise you to go and read about Lee Strobel. A highly man who knew about Atheism more than you can imagine. Who even won debate against religious scholars!
The truth is not something one can overturn. The highest thing one can do is to be delusional or reject it for oneself.

I can give you the source of the info detailing christian inventors, that if you'll be inquisitive enough to read. I hope so.
First read about Lee Strobel, then read through the Britannica encyclopedia to see the archive of information. If after everything you can't still find a Christian who contributed to technology the yoh can reply me.

I really wish I can get hold of you to be honest… I love to ridicule people like you so when I’m done, you will regret the day you made the choice to start a debate against me

Lee strobel the failed Christian apologetic is your hero?? Lmao
But you couldn’t even do anything to my last comment, seem you have no answer to how your Christianity destroyed early scientists and forced some of them to convert and some had to dedicate their works to the church just to stay safe… nothing to say about that??

Just accept that you have been fooled, it’s more honorable than trying to defend the impossible..

And fyi, I’m not an atheist… so bye!