₦airaland Forum

saintjimos:
Additional what

Only south east deserves one more state to balance 6 states per zone

It will take minimum 8 states per zone to attempt to balance the equation.

But FCT, Lagoon and New Kaduna should be among the laziest names ever thought of.
Etiti looks like the best placed (on map) for the southeast but they should change (maybe to English) name. Ekiti State already exists so the confusion in addressing them individually. Both Ekiti and Etiti has the same sound and meanings in Igbo language. Both words mean centre or central in Igbo.

Abagworo:
The only reasonable thing is to create Anioma State and join it with Southeast to balance the States distribution by zone. If that will not work then a 6th State should be created from combining parts of existing Southeast States or still Ogoja be created and added as 6th State to Southeast. Zoning is not entirely based on ethnicity.

Anioma needs to be created but not necessarily for southeast cos they're having issues with the other tribes like Warri side who don't appreciate them being in the same state talk more of having capital just because of Babaginda's wife Miriam


I know it's not based on ethnicity but Ogoja to the southeast ke? You wan burn everywhere? Ikwerre and Anioma sef no agree.

Etiti state is the best proposed while Orlu/Urasi seems to be most popular in the southeast.

Ned Nwonko wants Anioma because he wants to contest as the Governor of the State

These dumb as Fvck clowns are high on cow dung again 🤡🤡🐮🐮🐮😂😂😂😁😁😁😅😅🤣🤣🤣

When illiteracy is combined with ignorance the life of it's victim is doom. See too many brainless and sentimental responses.
Anyway they are not telling you that they want to create state. The issue is just that they have received 31 requests. By the time they scrutinized all the submissions those that will scale through will not be more than 6 and those ones too will still wait for years.

KenghisKhan:
Some state are not even viable and you want to create more? Nawa o. Why does these sound like politicians wanting to create more avenue to loot, stamp themselves as godfather rather than solve the problems of marginalization and equity if any.

..abi . they cannot even develop and take good care of the 36 states including FCT Abuja they created..they want to create 31 more states...it's a pity

Just imagining the wealth at the background of the senate. No one will believe it is in where place where there is poverty in the land. Just imagine, additional state to increase corruption and worthless herders to devastate more. A life of zero security

Running a country like a drug cartel...

If you watch movie on drugs, you will know what APC is trying to do...

They are simply trying to create additional 30 APC 30 states..

Now you see opposition decamp to APC just to became Governor and steal money for their self and family...

God Help Nigeria

braxjay:
hmm as our Nigerian Igbo Brothers would say "Ike Gwụrụ"

Ike gwukwaru o my brother

abbey621:
Lagoon from Lagos is DIABOLICAL.........Omo ain't no place like a Lagoon party cos a Lagoon party don't bother nobody

What's your state of origin? Lagoon!

Governor of Lagoon

Capital of Lagoon? It's got to be Eti-Osa

Lagoon State (after the Ijebu-speaking parts of Ikorodu, Epe, and Ibeju-Lekki LGAs including Ajah have been excised from Lagos State and merged with the rest of Ijebuland right across the border in Ogun State to form the new Ijebu State) is what was proposed in the Ijebu and Lagoon States maps that I first saw back in the late 2000s. It's definitely going to be a very viable state with direct access to the Atlantic Ocean and an international business hub.

I sort of favor Eko State as an alternative if
if the Portuguese derived name "Lagos" is finally dropped with the administrative capital still located in Alausa, Ikeja. The Yoruba folks have for decades now (since May 27,1967) officially referred to Lagos State as "Ipinle Eko."

So," Governor of Eko State" should suffice.

aswani:
I am not sure Usen can be in a different state to Benin, that is going a bit too far considering it's importance which I know I don't have to spell out to you. Granted, some might find it hard to argue against them claiming to be the outer end of Yorubaland going Eastwards. Best not to go there lahọr wo wo, no more from me on that.

My thinking with the Awori's, and I am not arguing against you, is that Lagos territory needs to be small, like Washington DC and The City of London (not all of London itself) and as the Awori's are too small to be a state, move them to a now smaller Ogun. Didn't know about Ógù, tó my eternal shame, they too can join Yewa and Awori in Ogun (all three having kith and kin over in Republic of Benin)

There is also the Ilaje/Ijaw question, they must have their own state or states I feel. Same as the Ìgbómìnà question, currently scattered in 2 (some say 3) states.

I don't know much about Igala's in the South East or the others so no comment from me.

You made some absolutely valid points here.


The Aworis (Aworis are descended from Olofin Ogunfunminire of Ufe (or Ife) royal lineage and he migrated from Ufe (Ife) centuries ago with the "Awo" OR sacrificial plate hence the Yoruba name "Awori" meaning the "floating sacrificial plate sank" in the river according to instructions from Ifa divinition. His direct male descendants are the current White Cap Chiefs of Lagos Island who are also the titled owners of the lands on Lagos Island. His other direct descendants are the royal custodians of the tradition of several communities on Lagos Mainland and the other Islands of Lagos State) are indigenous to 17 out of the 20 LGAs of Lagos State. So, Aworis aren't that small BUT I absolutely agree with you that the Awori-Yoruba folks should be merged with their Awori kith and kin in the industrial town of Ota and other Awori towns in Ogun State, but this time to form the larger Lagoon State OR Eko State as in indigenous name if they want to do away with the Portuguese derived name called Lagos. The new state would be very economically viable (just like the proposed Ijebu State) because both states would have direct access to the Atlantic Ocean, they both are connected to international business hubs, they both have bitumen deposits alongside crude oil and gas deposits as confirmed in discoveries from Lekoil and Yinka Folawiyo Petroleum since the late 1990s, etc.

In all these boundary adjustments, it suddenly stunned me that Egbaland Abeokuta and other Egba towns) would largely be left alone to form a new Ogun State if the Aworis of Ogun and Lagos States are merged to firm a new State alongside the proposed Ijebu State!

Did you know that when Lagos State was created among a total of 12 new states by General Yakubu Gowon on May 27 1967, 95% of the total land mass of the current Lagos State was carved out of the Old Western Region? Many towns in Lagos State today such as Ikeja, Agege, Badagry, Ojo, Mushin, Iganmu, Ilupeju, Isolo, Ikorodu, Epe, Ibeju-Lekki, the entire Lekki Peninsula, Apapa, etc, were ALL administered by Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR, SAN, and his fellow Action Group team thereby creating the famous Ikeja Industrial Estate, the elite Ikeja GRA, Ilupeju Industrial Estate, Iganmu Industrial Estate, Isolo Industrial Estate, Oluyole Industrial Estate in Ibadan, and more. Apapa port was the direct point of shipment of goods manufactured in the Industrial Estates of the Old Western Region (before and after the Mid-west Region was created in 1963 through an act of referendum). Of course other river ports such as Warri, Koko, etc, in today's Delta State were used to export rubber, timber, oil palm, and more from the current Edo and Delta States (then located in the Old Western Region).

As for the Ilaje-Yorubas of Ondo State and Ijaw living in Ondo State, the Ilaje folks emphatically claimed with historical evidence that the Arogbo Ijaws are migrants who came from the Arogbo area of Bayelsa State. This was the same accusation the Benin-Edos and Itsekiris alongside the Ilaje-Yorubas made in their joint 1-page newspaper press release back in the late 2000s indicating that a popular Ijaw historian by the name Alagoa and even the iconic freedom fighter of the 1960s, Jasper Adaka Boro all clearly stated in their separate books on Ijaw and Niger Delta history that the boundaries of Ijaw people ended at the Forcados River (since Forcados is part of the larger Ijaw community). ALL Niger Deltan ethnic groups have a culture of migratory fishing and temporary settlement in one another's fishing settlements for decades. So, the 3 groups jointly wondered why the Ijaws would have the audacity to jump right over Itsekiriland into the current Edo State through the inland rivers and the Ondo State axis as migratory fishermen living in temporary settlements ONLY to start claiming years later that the fishing settlements given to them by their hosts belongs to Ijaws. Hence the REJECTION of the so-called "Toruebe State" by the Ilajes, Benin-Edos and the Itsekiris in the late 2000s for stealing their ancestral lands.

Pickup8:
When illiteracy is combined with ignorance the life of it's victim is doom. See too many brainless and sentimental responses.

Anyway they are not telling you that they want to create state. The issue is just that they have received 31 requests. By the time they scrutinized all the submissions those that will scale through will not be more than 6 and those ones too will still wait for years.

That's impressive of you. You are part of ONLY 5 out of the identified posters here by me that made a LOT of sense NOT these other half-baked random posts based off of the herd instinct!

I carefully read a vast number of this thread pages and was just going to also give my opinion about the high levels of semi-literacy OR lack of comprehension, and unnecessary emotive posts among a VAST number of NL posters here. Decision-making is serious business NOT these childish rants from some.

The 31 states were simply PROPOSALS from the past decades of which ONLY the most VIABLE states would be created and even boundary adjustments can be done to bring closely related sub ethnic and ethnic groups or people together into an already existing state from another state in order to reduce discrimination and lack of development.

Konquest:
You made some absolutely valid points here.

In all these boundary adjustments, it suddenly stunned me that Egbaland Abeokuta and other Egba towns) would largely be left alone to form a new Ogun State if the Aworis of Ogun and Lagos States are merged to firm a new State alongside the proposed Ijebu State!

Once more sir, incredible history from you.

Can I just say I am not sure Àwori have enough to justify a state but it can happen.

Per the above, you have completely forgotten Yewa, a proud people who are not Ẹgba but will still remain in Ogun state.

I do think places like Lanlate, Igbo-ora and Eruwa that are north of Abeokuta could be moved out of Oyo (or proposed Ibadan) state into the new Ìjẹ̀bú less Ogun State.

Awolowo was incredible with the way he led the Western region but, to be fair, he was leading a single language group.

aswani:
Once more sir, incredible history from you.

Can I just say I am not sure Àwori have enough to justify a state but it can happen.

Per the above, you have completely forgotten Yewa, a proud people who are not Ẹgba but will still remain in Ogun state.

I do think places like Lanlate, Igbo-ora and Eruwa that are north of Abeokuta could be moved out of Oyo (or proposed Ibadan) state into the new Ìjẹ̀bú less Ogun State.

Awolowo was incredible with the way he led the Western region but, to be fair, he was leading a single language group.

@aswani, I just saw your mention.

Indeed, you're absolutely right. The Yewas (formerly called Egbados) and Aworis of Ogun State are two different Yoruba sub-ethnic groups. Thanks for pointing that out. So, that makes largely Egbaland and Yewaland in the new Ogun State. The remaining state would largely be an aquatic and agricultural community with already existing industrial and manufacturing hubs as well. There's also some crude oil and gas findings on Tongeji Island in Ipokia which is in Yewaland.

NNPCL To Begin Oil, Gas Exploration In Ogun State

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhUyOir-Vo?si=6i7U05HXQW7npK7R
TVC News Nigeria • May 31 2024


Yewa people
Live in the western part of Ogun State, including Yewa South, Yewa North, Ipokia, and Imeko Afon local government areas.

Awori people
Live in Lagos State and some parts of Ogun State, including Ado-Odo/Ota Local Government Area.

Last but not least, remember that Chief Obafemi Awolowo became the Premier of the Old Western region (in the early 1950s till 1960 when he became the leader of the opposition in the Federal parliament) which included Yorubaland and the entire people of the current Edo and Delta State (Edos, Aniomas, Ijaws, Itsekiris, etc) who used to be the Old Mid-West after the 1963 referendum, to the Mid-West State created by General Yakubu Gowon among 12 new states on May 27 1967.

The testimonials of Chief Awolowo's free education programs and new schools built in the entire Old Western Region from the current Yoruba States, to Edo to Anioma in Delta are still remembered till today. The former of Delta State, Governor Ifeanyi Ikowa's octogenarian father was interviewed some years back in Sunday Punch and he gave a history of how the institution that Chief Awolowo built enabled him to attend higher education. Comrade Eva, an Ijaw activist from Delta State also paid glowing tributes to Chief Awolowo for helping to bring education to people in his part of the Niger Delta.

aswani:
Excellent points there sir.

My thinking, off the top of my head.

Give Ìjèbu's their state as you've detailed. Push Aworis into Ogun state, and make Lagos end at Agege and Mile 12.

Even part of Victoria Island would be inside Ijebu State

ijebuland begins at 5 Cowrie Creek on Victoria Island

Christistruth02:
Even part of Victoria Island would be inside Ijebu State

ijebuland begins at 5 Cowrie Creek on Victoria Island

You are right but maybe they might make an exception for Lekki as it's so close

Edygrin:
Mention one influential Anioma indigene apart from Ned that fully supports the creation of the state?
Infact the people have said that if Anioma is created that it will be in the SS and not SE

https://www.nairaland.com/8144261/monarchs-meet-senator-nwoko-back

That aside, using your own logic, mention influential people who fully support the creation of the so called Adada, and etiti states that made it into that bill. Infact count the total number of ordinary Igbo people outside politics who know anything about Etiti or Adada.

The number will be within a dozen. But anioma state proposal which almost every Anioma person knows, and which most Igbo people know, was craftily excluded.

Like I said earlier, those who made this bill, are just people who want nothing good for Igbo people, and just want to use this bill as both a form of distraction, and a way to make nonsense of the Anioma state proposal.

The main and only intent of this bill is the complete rubbishing of the Anioma state agenda. Nothing more, nothin less.