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Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Bluebrain101: 6:39pm On Feb 08, 2025
Omoawoke:
I really wish I can get hold of you to be honest… I love to ridicule people like you so when I’m done, you will regret the day you made the choice to start a debate against me

Lee strobel the failed Christian apologetic is your hero?? Lmao grin
But you couldn’t even do anything to my last comment, seem you have no answer to how your Christianity destroyed early scientists and forced some of them to convert and some had to dedicate their works to the church just to stay safe… nothing to say about that??

Just accept that you have been fooled, it’s more honorable than trying to defend the impossible..

And fyi, I’m not an atheist… so bye!
Have you prompted chatgpt to give you the information?
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by achillesfoot(m): 7:52pm On Feb 08, 2025
Omoawoke:
Gangs of thieves

Money making organizations

Foreign religion is the biggest threat to Africa…
Spiritual trap and mental slavery..

First of all, it will never be well with those that brought this evil called abrahimic religion to blacks

Secondly, it will never be well with modern people that propagate this diseases called Abrahmic religion in our time
Yes you heard me, if you are a preacher and adherent follower of this foreign religions, and you hate your ancestors and call them evil… it can never be well with you all




People, can you see why we say Africa has a long way to go…

People, see why I say the problem of Africa is the deranged black man himself who has no touch with history..

History needs to be made compulsory.
This lost helpless soul for example thinks his ancestors were naked and savages and thanks the white man for slavery and colonization..

Isn’t that funny, a black man justifying slavery of himself.. truly some people deserve to be chained and thrown into zoo for entertainment..

First the world moves by people learning from one another and sharing ideas… the same whites came to Africa and couldn’t take their eyes off your artifacts They stole them and looted it dry and distorted your history..

Japan and China and Korea are examples of nations advanced technology and yet didn’t lose their identity

I shouldn’t have replied someone like you because you are a hopeless case…

Don’t give mirror to a cave man, he will scream and shout demon!
Don’t give quadratic equation to a village illiterate, he will call it madness
Never give enlightenment to a fool, it will call it madness
it will never be able to contemplate it…
Replying a thing like you is a waste of time, an attempt to enlighten a thing called you is impossible
And that goes for many of your filthy ignorant kinds



You want me to start educating you on why our ancestors were better off than this current lost generation of dimwits…
lol, I won’t do that… if you want to learn, go and seek knowledge and work for it… it’s not given to fools freely!
But I can only give you hints to get started…
First, my own ancestors were moral and loving people…
My culture Yoruba culture had good ethics and moral standards… the principles of being an Omoluabi cannot be gainsaid.
Next, the barbaric nature of man of killings and human sacrifice and cannibalism was worldwide in the dark ages, and the worst human sacrifices in history were commited outside of Africa (you don’t read, you are a semi illiterate so I don’t expect you to know much)
The Mayans, Aztec etc…

Next, the whites were worse barbarians… invaded lands, murdered natives in cold blood, they burnt epilepsy patients on the stake thinking they were witches…

The list is endless..
And let me tell you, you self hating thing, our ancestors are better innovators than this current generation… they built walls, they weren’t naked, they had farm tools and knew astrology… as soon as the white men came, we haven’t been able to use our creative mind to create anything new… (thanks to people like you)
All we do is go to school to be taught and learn enough to be useful to work…

like I said, an attempt to teach your filthy kinds is waste of resource… you deserve the ignorance you have and the pathetic self hating pitiful situation you have
You don't respond to such Africans who hate themselves for being Africans.. They are actually victims of intense mainstream brainwashing.. It's useless trying to make him understand you.. So just read his texts, shake your head and ignore.. My own opinion.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Rebelutionary: 7:55pm On Feb 08, 2025
Dreal1247:
The river that forgets its source will suddenly run dry. The grace that promoted an individual may still be needed for him to maintain the spot at the top.
Recipe 101 for how a cult is birth. I dare say any human arrangement with this subtle threat of "running dry" if one leaves is suspect! Period!

The command is to abide in HIM and it is HIS grace alone that propels men to heights unknown-men are ONLY instruments in fulfilling HIS WILL. Read that slowly....I wager that you won't say this about Joseph and Pharaoh abi? Shey Pharaoh no get "grace" ni?

People should be free to leave FOR ANY REASON they so choose and it shouldn't be an issue! Even our relationship with God allows for free will!
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Mom007(f): 8:02pm On Feb 08, 2025
Demonic pastor. Follow you to go and join the illuminati right? It is often said that if one person has a problem with you, the problem may be with them but if everyone has problems with you, the problem is definitely with you.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by ValeeLove(m): 8:11pm On Feb 08, 2025
Omoawoke:
Gangs of thieves

Money making organizations

Foreign religion is the biggest threat to Africa…
Spiritual trap and mental slavery..

First of all, it will never be well with those that brought this evil called abrahimic religion to blacks

Secondly, it will never be well with modern people that propagate this diseases called Abrahmic religion in our time
Yes you heard me, if you are a preacher and adherent follower of this foreign religions, and you hate your ancestors and call them evil… it can never be well with you all




People, can you see why we say Africa has a long way to go…

People, see why I say the problem of Africa is the deranged black man himself who has no touch with history..

History needs to be made compulsory.
This lost helpless soul for example thinks his ancestors were naked and savages and thanks the white man for slavery and colonization..

Isn’t that funny, a black man justifying slavery of himself.. truly some people deserve to be chained and thrown into zoo for entertainment..

First the world moves by people learning from one another and sharing ideas… the same whites came to Africa and couldn’t take their eyes off your artifacts They stole them and looted it dry and distorted your history..

Japan and China and Korea are examples of nations advanced technology and yet didn’t lose their identity

I shouldn’t have replied someone like you because you are a hopeless case…

Don’t give mirror to a cave man, he will scream and shout demon!
Don’t give quadratic equation to a village illiterate, he will call it madness
Never give enlightenment to a fool, it will call it madness
it will never be able to contemplate it…
Replying a thing like you is a waste of time, an attempt to enlighten a thing called you is impossible
And that goes for many of your filthy ignorant kinds



You want me to start educating you on why our ancestors were better off than this current lost generation of dimwits…
lol, I won’t do that… if you want to learn, go and seek knowledge and work for it… it’s not given to fools freely!
But I can only give you hints to get started…
First, my own ancestors were moral and loving people…
My culture Yoruba culture had good ethics and moral standards… the principles of being an Omoluabi cannot be gainsaid.
Next, the barbaric nature of man of killings and human sacrifice and cannibalism was worldwide in the dark ages, and the worst human sacrifices in history were commited outside of Africa (you don’t read, you are a semi illiterate so I don’t expect you to know much)
The Mayans, Aztec etc…

Next, the whites were worse barbarians… invaded lands, murdered natives in cold blood, they burnt epilepsy patients on the stake thinking they were witches…

The list is endless..
And let me tell you, you self hating thing, our ancestors are better innovators than this current generation… they built walls, they weren’t naked, they had farm tools and knew astrology… as soon as the white men came, we haven’t been able to use our creative mind to create anything new… (thanks to people like you)
All we do is go to school to be taught and learn enough to be useful to work…

like I said, an attempt to teach your filthy kinds is waste of resource… you deserve the ignorance you have and the pathetic self hating pitiful situation you have
do you believe in African religion at least?
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Kobojunkie: 8:20pm On Feb 08, 2025
achillesfoot:
You don't respond to such Africans who hate themselves for being Africans.. They are actually victims of intense mainstream brainwashing.. It's useless trying to make him understand you.. So just read his texts, shake your head and ignore.. My own opinion.
Where are the Africans who don't hate themselves? undecided
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by ogascomax: 8:38pm On Feb 08, 2025
Wrackcityoffici:
Bro this is trash, these people offer services and should be compensated, studio session costs money, producer no send say na gospel song or not, same with video directors…you thriving while you expect everyone to serve you for free, if gospel artists are broke, then the only models the society would have are the circular artist…empower these gospel artists and stop trying to manipulate them using religion
All those things you listed the Church provide all those things. The church has world class sound system.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Kobojunkie: 8:41pm On Feb 08, 2025
ValeeLove:
do you believe in African religion at least?
More importantly, are African religions better —less exploitative—than foreign religions? undecided
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by OctavianAC(m): 8:52pm On Feb 08, 2025
Even you, you still left somebody's church to form your own too. If you can't forget about it, then you need to go to back to the church where you first became born again.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Omass: 9:04pm On Feb 08, 2025
babatees:
1. Pastor did not mention any name(s) so those calling name(s) are merely speculating

2. Singing in church is a calling not compulsorily having a good voice though this is an added feature

3. For those saying where are the estranged singers now, well you should know they are all doing excellently well with their families, still born again and full of the Holy Ghost loving God

4. Many things happened that are not made public and I'd like to say what we know now is all one sided

5. The origin of singers in the church came from the Asaph tribe of Israel in the Old Testament chosen God to permanently stay in the temple singing praise and thanksgiving to God Almighty continuosly,
and they are not allowed to do circular jobs because they are from the tribe of Levi. They are fed from the proceeds the Israelites bring to the temple as sacrifices which the Priests also benefit from.

6. Many commenting here have no idea of the struggles theses guys went through in order to resolve this matter and how they were denied audience with Pastor

7. None of these singers would want to leave but they were literally pushed to the back for reasons beyond mentioning here although they need to re-evaluate their activities and manner of life.

8. NO ONE has the monopoly of the Holy Spirit, no human died for anyone, the only being that has monopoly over any life is God Almighty and He alone gives grace to anyone who desires it.
We shall all stand before God Almighty to give account individually including Pastor.

9. There are many complexities about this matter that one day will come to the open but for now, the singers presently in the church are well taken care of by the church and doing very well too.

10. What the estranged singers should realize is that this matter should serve as a reality check which should reset their manner of life and correct them where necessary

11. Finally, Pastor does not harbor any hatred towards them and i hope they don't either rather they should seek clarification from God and live for Him alone. Follow God NOT man!
You seem to know a lot.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by OldBeer: 9:30pm On Feb 08, 2025
emperor4love:
When you check old timers gospel singer like voice of cross,agape love singer, you will know the difference from this new generation guys in the industry
Yinmu.
Voice of the Cross members are now in the US hustling. After churches finished using them, what did they gain out of it apart from God bless you?
I'm happy these new wave of gospel artists have learnt. If you can't afford them, use your church choir.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by topatee: 9:50pm On Feb 08, 2025
justmondris:
They all fell from grace to grass when they left Christ embassy. There is something called grace. if you decide to carry shoulder for grace because your are now rich and famous, I sorry for you. God will abandon you and you will be back to square 0.
So your definition of Grace is to remain in Christ Embassy?, you did not respond to the question, why did Pst Chris left Benin and relocated to lagos,
If the relationship between Pastor and members is permanent "so you dont fall from grace", how come you people did not force Mrs Oyakhilomeh to remain with him.
Sometimes, I think an average religious black man brain is frozen, we forget so easily, did you remeber the documentry and scandals on Uebert Angel gold-smuggling.
These MEN amassed a huge fortune, ride the best of Jets, built empires for thier generations unborn and yet some of you have the audacity to say these young men and women should not pursue thier dreams,
Some of you casting stones of religion maintan your secular jobs. I thought all of you should have remain a preist.
The problem with most of you religious pharisee of our generation, is that you have refuse to read between the lines and pages of the bible you carry, its always Pastors says, Prophets says....
I hear some of you saying, these artists are on thier way to hell, they will return to zero because they left your synagogue of huh??, do you know the God of the bible at all?
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by AfonjaPriest: 9:52pm On Feb 08, 2025
Hypocrisy at the highest level of deceit.
Does Chris think he is one of a few that is bestowed with knowledge of the art of churching?
Churching is a big baddass business and you can cash-in anyway you want.
So if they want to cash-in with their voices through their music, wetin concern Chris?
Abeg, if you chop, I chop, nobody go go hungry.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by PlanetZero: 10:00pm On Feb 08, 2025
Wrackcityoffici:
Bro this is trash, these people offer services and should be compensated, studio session costs money, producer no send say na gospel song or not, same with video directors…you thriving while you expect everyone to serve you for free, if gospel artists are broke, then the only models the society would have are the circular artist…empower these gospel artists and stop trying to manipulate them using religion
Seems u don't know pastor Chris. He gives them money heavily. Moses bliss at a time was given 100,000 dollars by pastor Chris. And pastor Chris promoted these guys heavily. What else do u want him to do
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Kobojunkie: 10:05pm On Feb 08, 2025
PlanetZero:
➜Seems u don't know pastor Chris. He gives them money heavily. Moses bliss at a time was given 100,000 dollars by pastor Chris. And pastor Chris promoted these guys heavily. What else do u want him to do
Na Chris money he give am? Promoted them with whose money? huh
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by chatinent: 10:19pm On Feb 08, 2025
Nothing like gospel artists.

It's artists who sing Gospel songs...all business men like Davido etc
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Kobojunkie: 10:31pm On Feb 08, 2025
Cti28:
➜You don't have an idea what grace is. So keep shut.
What is grace then? Tell us! huh
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Kobojunkie: 10:32pm On Feb 08, 2025
jaxxy:
➜God's work is not a paid job. if u want a paid job which is very good u go become a lawyer, doctor or even politician or u can sell ice cream.
But don't commercialize the gift of God, put a price tag on it and think u are worshipping God or doing his work when u are doing ur personal business or serving mammon.
It is not paid work yet Chris gets paid from his company ? undecided
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by jaxxy(m): 10:43pm On Feb 08, 2025
Kobojunkie:
It is not paid work yet Chris gets paid from his company ? undecided
Chris has explaining to do about the source of his wealth. Church money isn't ur personal money.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by justmondris: 11:03pm On Feb 08, 2025
topatee:
So your definition of Grace is to remain in Christ Embassy?, you did not respond to the question, why did Pst Chris left Benin and relocated to lagos,
If the relationship between Pastor and members is permanent "so you dont fall from grace", how come you people did not force Mrs Oyakhilomeh to remain with him.
Sometimes, I think an average religious black man brain is frozen, we forget so easily, did you remeber the documentry and scandals on Uebert Angel gold-smuggling.
These MEN amassed a huge fortune, ride the best of Jets, built empires for thier generations unborn and yet some of you have the audacity to say these young men and women should not pursue thier dreams,
Some of you casting stones of religion maintan your secular jobs. I thought all of you should have remain a preist.
The problem with most of you religious pharisee of our generation, is that you have refuse to read between the lines and pages of the bible you carry, its always Pastors says, Prophets says....
I hear some of you saying, these artists are on thier way to hell, they will return to zero because they left your synagogue of huh??, do you know the God of the bible at all?
Why did Abraham relocate?
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by justmondris: 11:09pm On Feb 08, 2025
shadrach77:
I'm not sure they fell from grace oh. How will they feed themselves if they are not making money with their craft?
Making money with your craft is not the problem but allowing the money and fame to carry you away from the path of God is the major problem. Samething happened to Solomon and this is the major reason why God sometimes ignore such prayer requests. God bless you finish and you come they use the blessing they sin against am? omoh na the highest be that oh.

Most people are only faithful to God when they are broke and need something from God. Once God bless them with work or something when they give them money, them dey easily carried away and come they form too busy for God and the work of God.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Janosky: 11:09pm On Feb 08, 2025
franchasofficia:
They should sing for free but they must pay tithe and offering? lipsrsealed

Very apt.
Special oyel for your head.

grin
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by InvertedHammer: 12:06am On Feb 09, 2025
Giftuzorchukwu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HozauggE40?si=M_02PY_8dRV2Qa0M



https://dailypost.ng/2025/02/07/why-sinach-frank-edwards-others-left-christ-embassy-pastor-chris-oyakhilome/
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They were not well-guided and mentored.

The first rule of becoming a good "Christian" in Nigeria is to be overtly pretentious. Claim that you drink tea with God if you must. It is part of the act.

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Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by geoworldedu: 12:53am On Feb 09, 2025
If Anita your wife can leave you, what do you expect others to do?
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by geoworldedu: 12:55am On Feb 09, 2025
justmondris:
Making money with your craft is not the problem but allowing the money and fame to carry you away from the path of God is the major problem. Samething happened to Solomon and this is the major reason why God sometimes ignore such prayer requests. God bless you finish and you come they use the blessing they sin against am? omoh na the highest be that oh.

Most people are only faithful to God when they are broke and need something from God. Once God bless them with work or something when they give them money, them dey easily carried away and come they form too busy for God and the work of God.
How did the money carry them away from the path of God, please explain. Last time I checked, they are all still singing christian songs. I think the problem is with Oyakhilome who cannot even keep his wife Anita.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by TechCapon(m): 3:52am On Feb 09, 2025
Ekugbeh:
studio sessions? You really know Christ Embassy at all. There are live studio facilities for more than two hundred choir.
Frank Edwards Recorded his first album in one of Loveworld studios.
What do you really want? Money? Cars?
What do you want just name it.

You all just have itchy mouth when it gets to the Christ Embassy
is loveworld studio free?
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by topatee: 4:06am On Feb 09, 2025
justmondris:
Why did Abraham relocate?
Because God told him to do so, so how do you know God did no speak to these people you are condemning.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Cti28(m): 5:42am On Feb 09, 2025
Kobojunkie:
What is grace then? Tell us! huh
1. Christ embassy has no grace to offer any one. One does not fall from grace by leaving any man made entity. Rather one falls from grace when he rejects God.
Grace came only by Jesus( John 1:17)
2. Grace is a gift of God. (Eph 2:cool

What is grace? Simply put, it is the unmerited favour of God. But what does this unmerited favour does to man? Does it make him famous? No, Does it make him rich? Yes, but not primarily rich materially -this could be added. Grace makes one rich spiritually (Eph 1:2-10)

So grace enables ones to live holy. The greatest hindrance in ones walk with God, is "self" And self must be put death and how does one achieve this, by denying himself daily, and taking up His cross and following Jesus. You can't do this, if grace isn't available.

Grace enables us to say no to sin, grace enables to serve God alright, grace enables us to deny worldliness Titus 2:11-12)

Grace gives one boldness to proclaim Christ and Him crucified, without fear, even in the midst of danger. So that nothing can deter him even if his/her life is at stake. (Acts 4 to the end)

In conclusion grace is a gift of God which came through Jesus. This grace makes us to conform to the image of Jesus. So any one who claims to have grace, and his or her life is not in conformity to that of Christ, is deceiving himself/herself.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Munzy14(m): 6:22am On Feb 09, 2025
fuckingAyaya:
Since then they haven't been theirselves especially sinach, mumu Frank Edward ran to dunamis alter to pledge allegiance, he forgot the alter that made him famous worldwide. Maybe they thought God is 2.
They forgot their source...A careless mistake.
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by Kaytixy: 6:48am On Feb 09, 2025
But him bin dey knack Sinach na.....
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by ITbomb(m): 6:50am On Feb 09, 2025
While we thought God is using them, and call their presentation MINISTRATION, they call it show and fighting over commission
Re: Why Sinach, Frank Edwards, Joe Praize, Eben Left Christ Embassy – Pastor Chris by drerocker: 7:23am On Feb 09, 2025
Peakdesign23:
They're all the same. They all went for the money including Chris himself.
u be iddiat try n read well ok and stop taking drugs
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