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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 10:15pm On Feb 11, 2025
Not worth my time.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:22pm On Feb 11, 2025
Ibime:
The economy is what pushed them over the line or made traditional democrat voters to stay away

The whitelash people are always there and were there in 2020, you only need to swing 10% of people to stay home or switch sides based on economy and that's what happened.
Hopefully those who voted because of egg prices are happy now.

Lmao. 😂😂😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 10:23pm On Feb 11, 2025
raumdeuter:
So its no longer Trump threatening Canada. Its annexation now
And if Canadian agree to his plan how does that work?

Like I said you are too stuppid to figure your life out
Here is the definition for the 3rd time.
Read it slowly and then ask yourself if your post makes any sense given the definition of the word.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:33pm On Feb 11, 2025
IjeBos:
Here is the definition for the 3rd time.
Read it slowly and then ask yourself if your post makes any sense given the definition of the word.
Show where Trump said he would annex Canada
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:38pm On Feb 11, 2025
King of Jordan offers to take 2,000 Gaza children
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:49pm On Feb 11, 2025
Ibime:
Will you shut your illiterate state school ass up and read..Typical MAGAt changing the topic to inanities anytime they are caught pants down

You said Trump doesnt even know what they're spending yet Obama with the same tools had shaved that deficit down every year all the way to $440bln while Trump ballooned it to $1 trln before Covid. A bad workman blames his tools
So you ignore the part Obama took it to 1.4 without USAID 😂
You and you asinine post here.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 10:51pm On Feb 11, 2025
IjeBos:
Insanity.
He keeps making the US weaker and making Americans less safe around the world.
I thought he is for "America First" and that the US wont pokenose into any other body's affair?

Why does he want to takw GAZA? Why? grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 10:55pm On Feb 11, 2025
bemeruca:
So you ignore the part Obama took it to 1.4 without USAID 😂
You and you asinine post here.
Like I said, you are a neophyte who arrived in politics with Trump and doesn't know anything about politics before Trump. Have you never heard of the Great Recession of 2008 to 2011 caused by the subprime mortgage crisis? I literally posted this last night. Those are the cost of all your bank bailouts and stimulus to revive the economy, similar to Covid. I will soon start charging you for education.

Ibime:
Trump 2016 to 2019 had the greatest expansion in budget deficit outside of the COVID years and Great Recession. Google is your friend. I am conversant with numbers when I speak on things
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:08pm On Feb 11, 2025
Ibime:
Like I said, you are a neophyte who arrived in politics with Trump and doesn't know anything about politics before Trump. Have you never heard of the Great Recession of 2008 to 2011 caused by the subprime mortgage crisis? I literally posted this last night. Those are the cost of all your bank bailouts and stimulus to revive the economy, similar to Covid. I will soon start charging you for education.
So they spend cash to fix things which adds to the deficit?
Okay.

So what I said stands abi?

Unnecessary spending and funding crap. Half a trillion disappears every year. That's your deficit
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 11:14pm On Feb 11, 2025
raumdeuter:
Show where Trump said he would annex Canada
Annexation is the incorporation of land into another jurisdiction.
Trump saying he wants Canada to be the 51st state means he is saying the wants to annex Canada.
The means of how that happens doesn't matter.
Again, Trump saying he wants Canada as the 51st state means he wants to place Canada in the jurisdiction of the US or annex Canada. All the same.

You spent 4 posts here arguing against the definition of a word because you have so and completely become a Trump sycophant.
They need to do a study on the minds of people like you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:15pm On Feb 11, 2025
bemeruca:
So they spend cash to fix things which adds to the deficit?
Okay.

So what I said stands abi?

Unnecessary spending and funding crap. Half a trillion disappears every year. That's your deficit
Oh shut up you dunderhead!

What crisis did Trump face from 2016 to 2019 that had him raising deficits like a drunk man after inheriting a stable and constantly improving position?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:18pm On Feb 11, 2025
Ibime:
Oh shut up you dunderhead!

What crisis did Trump face from 2016 to 2019 that had him raising deficits like a drunk man after inheriting a stable and constantly improving position?
USAID and pentagon. Trillions down the drain
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:19pm On Feb 11, 2025
bemeruca:
USAID and pentagon. Trillions down the drain
USAID budget is $40 bln, immaterial

Obama didn't have Pentagon?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:20pm On Feb 11, 2025
IjeBos:
Annexation is the incorporation of land into another jurisdiction.
Trump saying he wants Canada to be the 51st state means he is saying the wants to annex Canada.
The means of how that happens doesn't matter.
Again, Trump saying he wants Canada as the 51st state means he wants to place Canada in the jurisdiction of the US or annex Canada. All the same.

You spent 4 posts here arguing against the definition of a word because you have so and completely become a Trump sycophant.
They need to do a study on the minds of people like you.
He wants Canada to be a part of the US. There is an option where Canadians voluntarily vote to become a part of the US

Your stupidity is legendary without knowing how Trump wants to achieve it, you already claimed its an annexation
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:28pm On Feb 11, 2025
Ibime:
USAID budget is $40 bln, immaterial

Obama didn't have Pentagon?
40billion of unnecessary expenditures added to the defit.

During Obama's time the wastage was modest. Today they are flinging the money like a monkey throwing poop
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 11:34pm On Feb 11, 2025
raumdeuter:
He wants Canada to be a part of the US. There is an option where Canadians voluntarily vote to become a part of the US

Your stupidity is legendary without knowing how Trump wants to achieve it, you already claimed its an annexation
Lol.
Volunteering/voting to be part of the US would still mean Canada is being added to or incorporated into the US and so the US would still be annexing Canada.

How many times have you failed at simple vocabulary now?
Google the definition of annexation.
Share it with Bemeruca and Basilico and maybe you 3 can figure it out.

Chai.
See dumbfuckery.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:35pm On Feb 11, 2025
Android17:
So, Trump should disregard every court order, and as long as the SCOTUS don't hold him accountable, he is fine.

That's very good. That's what he will do.
I love how you jumped there from your "Biden did", which I did not agree with since Biden didn't in my view, to dump should and therefore will do, lol. It enlightens.

No! Biden should not disregard every court order, and if he does I hope he loses the election, because that is just not the democracy I'd want for America and I hope the majority wouldn't vote for it, though I'm giggling at my own surprise.

What Biden did was some wuruwuru that no one (to the best of my little knowledge, so correct me if I'm wrong please), brought before a judge so a judge could have held him to account. Someone after all does have to go before a judge and say, "Judge! Biden doing what you said he shouldn't do. Sanction him!"

But you're right. Dump will disregard the law. And he has a supporting Scotus which Biden never had which bothers me. Not that Biden never had it, but that the right to disobey the law is seemingly being given to dump, in advance. Its like saying our King Charlie has immunity from any crime he commits, an immunity we don't even give to our gods.

But you know the Dems will "weaponise". Or so the pugs say we do when we lawyer up before a judge, and antifa, and blm, and union and etc etc etc for democracy, least as blues see it, and already are.

I did laugh at the below.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:43pm On Feb 11, 2025
bemeruca:
40billion of unnecessary expenditures added to the defit.

During Obama's time the wastage was modest. Today they are flinging the money like a monkey throwing poop
What was USAID budget in 2015 Vs 2016 that made Trump wreck Obamas improving deficits
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:44pm On Feb 11, 2025
Android17:
When Brazil were going at X - they were receiving USAID funds to do so. They've now put an end to their lawfare since the USAID largesse has been discontinued.
Since, Android?

After the platform settled $5.2 million in fines, appointed a legal representative in Brazil and complied with orders to deactivate accounts, the block was lifted on 8 October 2024.

In an interview on 30 August, Brazilian president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva emphasized that Elon Musk should respect the decisions of the Supreme Federal Court, criticizing him for allegedly offending local authorities. Lula da Silva stated that Brazilian society does not have an "inferiority complex". He later said that the world could learn from Brazil's example, and it's not "obliged to put up with Musk's far-right free-for-all just because he is rich."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_Twitter_in_Brazil
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17:
nateevs:
Your problem off the bat is assuming that because I am 100% anti-Trump, then I "thoroughly believe in" CNN.

This is the problem you guys have. Sheep mentality. You think no one is capable of forming opinions about Trump, unless it's from the media.

You are on a road to even more nonsense. You think his networth reduced, then you man up and phucking show us the proof of it. ........Instead, you are using a news source that you criticize as a Trump sheep to justify nonsense for this instance of winning..... and then trying to make it look like you know me with CNN from somewhere. Don't project your insecurities on me sheep.

Give us the reference point for Trump's wealth as at 2016. Trump as a President-elect and fully sworn in never declared his self worth, so what is your source?

Because the Fuhrer said it?
Nateevs, you're doing a fine job brandishing how stupid you are. Let me give you more rope to hang your ugly head with.

So, you didn't know Trump's Networth in 2016. Won't accept it contracted in the years he was POTUS. Won't accept CNN, nor Political facts. Won't even have accepted it from same Trump himself whom you call a liar. But insist that, I have to justify the contraction in his networth - by some means.

Just tell us the website, news source you will honor as a truth-o-meter so I can provide you the delta in his networth between 2016-20.

After that is proven, will you then accept that, you are the dull lemming who thinks he gets brownie points for calling others sheeple, when it itself, is the quintessential stupid sheeple? The very one with blemishes not fit for use in your herd. You're diametrically opposed to anything Trump, you will challenge it even when it is irrefutable.

Your own type of TDS is unbecoming. What was your mother's excuse for not terminating you again?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 11:59pm On Feb 11, 2025
budaatum:
I love how you jumped there from your "Biden did", which I did not agree with since Biden didn't in my view, to dump should and therefore will do, lol. It enlightens.

No! Biden should not disregard every court order, and if he does I hope he loses the election, because that is just not the democracy I'd want for America and I hope the majority wouldn't vote for it, though I'm giggling at my own surprise.

What Biden did was some wuruwuru that no one (to the best of my little knowledge, so correct me if I'm wrong please), brought before a judge so a judge could have held him to account. Someone after all does have to go before a judge and say, "Judge! Biden doing what you said he shouldn't do. Sanction him!"

But you're right. Dump will disregard the law. And he has a supporting Scotus which Biden never had which bothers me. Not that Biden never had it, but that the right to disobey the law is seemingly being given to dump, in advance. Its like saying our King Charlie has immunity from any crime he commits, an immunity we don't even give to our gods.

But you know the Dems will "weaponise". Or so the pugs say we do when we lawyer up before a judge, and antifa, and blm, and union and etc etc etc for democracy, least as blues see it, and already are.

I did laugh at the below.
Before going off on another tangent. What part of the article you cited don't you agree with?

Is it POTUS's duty to develop a workaround (that is not explicitly explained) except saying "we came up with one to still disobey SCOTUS' order"?

I like to follow arguments logically.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 12:08am On Feb 12, 2025
budaatum:
Since, Android?
The block being lifted is it not part of the lawfare EM was fighting? Abi, did you think it was not ongoing?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 12:14am On Feb 12, 2025
happney65:
I thought he is for "America First" and that the US wont pokenose into any other body's affair?

Why does he want to takw GAZA? Why? grin
It doesn't even make economic or business sense. After sending troops to secure the place at a cost, spend billions to develop it, who are the crazy people that wanna buy and live there? Of all places in the world to buy properties, why would anyone wanna risk his/her money in Gaza? That place will always susceptible to terror attacks.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 12:15am On Feb 12, 2025
nateevs:
You did not challenge anything because I never claimed authority over his self worth. What you are reading from me and what your are understanding are two different things. But I know how it's come about. It's sheep mentality.
Are there democrat-leaning Billionaires?
Do they crave more wealth?
What did they do with their craving when Biden was in power?
When Elon Musk was a Democrat how did he deal with his craving?

There's only one reason why you won't respond.

TDS. Prove us wrong. E-diot.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:18am On Feb 12, 2025
Ibime:
What was USAID budget in 2015 Vs 2016 that made Trump wreck Obamas improving deficits
Dunno, they were not blowing billions
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:39am On Feb 12, 2025
Android17:
Before going off on another tangent. What part of the article you cited don't you agree with?

Is it POTUS's duty to develop a workaround (that is not explicitly explained) except saying "we came up with one to still disobey SCOTUS' order"?

I like to follow arguments logically.
This is a silly take untethered from what actually happened.

Biden created a plan for student loan relief.
The Supreme Court found that plan unconstitutional.
He then went and made sure the student loan relief programs that were already in law were being implemented and those students who were eligible for that relief received the relief.
The goal of some of these programs Congress passed was to get people working in fields that didn't pay a lot.

There was no workaround.
He followed the law.

You've spent a lot of time arguing something you heard on right wing propaganda that you don't understand.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:50am On Feb 12, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
It doesn't even make economic or business sense. After sending troops to secure the place at a cost, spend billions to develop it, who are the crazy people that wanna buy and live there? Of all places in the world to buy properties, why would anyone wanna risk his/her money in Gaza? That place will always susceptible to terror attacks.
Where did you get the info from that he will send troops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNMTU1IbsCc
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 1:07am On Feb 12, 2025
IjeBos:
This is a silly take untethered from what actually happened.

Biden created a plan for student loan relief.
The Supreme Court found that plan unconstitutional.
He then went and made sure the student loan relief programs that were already in law were being implemented and those students who were eligible for that relief received the relief.
The goal of some of these programs Congress passed was to get people working in fields that didn't pay a lot.

There was no workaround.
He followed the law.

You've spent a lot of time arguing something you heard on right wing propaganda that you don't understand.
Let me tell you my M.O. I discuss civilly until people want to go down and dirty. Depending on my mood, I can be incredibly nasty. Just take note as your reputation precedes you.

Let me start where I started with Budaatum.
What did he mean here? I read what you have above. It is a lot of nothing. If I devise a plan to forgive student loans, find them summarily challenged in court, and SCOTUS returns them unconstitutional, should POTUS:

- Do what Biden did in this post if he did what you have above?

What you have above clearly is not a workaround, I agree. He simply revisited the other student loans he already knew existed but were not being implemented properly, found better ways to implement them, and was able to forgive more loans. Is that your argument? Let me be sure I've summarized it.

If so, how does that compare with the post below? There's a video for it too.
Notice he says "tried to BLOCK me".

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:08am On Feb 12, 2025
Y’all 🤣😂

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:19am On Feb 12, 2025
Android17:
The block being lifted is it not part of the lawfare EM was fighting? Abi, did you think it was not ongoing?
Balsanaro is bad like dump and I'd pay so he lost too. In fact he's worse and I rejoiced he lost. If he were president Nigeria I don't think we'd have like him.

My gripe is who spends that money now, and on what. And I of course wished it weren't evangelicals, for that's where I think it will go. Though, but don't tell I said, North Nigeria might benefit from Falwell.

Got you links.

https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/world/what-usaids-dark-dollars-did-to-brazil/

https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/world/what-usaids-dark-dollars-did-to-brazil/#_ftn11

https://revolver.news/2025/02/turns-out-the-deep-state-used-usaid-to-oust-bolsonaro-from-brazil/

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/03/the_problem_with_ramadan.html
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 1:25am On Feb 12, 2025
Funny enough, if Trump was president in a parliamentary system, most of these judicial rulings wouldn’t have existed.
This is because in parliamentary systems, generally, policy disputes are resolved by both the executive and/or legislative branches. The courts’ voices are barely heard, except for cases that implicate constitutional rights..

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:29am On Feb 12, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
It doesn't even make economic or business sense. After sending troops to secure the place at a cost, spend billions to develop it, who are the crazy people that wanna buy and live there? Of all places in the world to buy properties, why would anyone wanna risk his/her money in Gaza? That place will always susceptible to terror attacks.
Its not "buy and live" land. They'll wall it up with security and turn it into hotel gazavegas where you fly in and gamble and leave when your money run out or you tire of winning or stay to seek redemption. Its not far from holy land afterall.

Zillions of untracked and untaxable dollars. Except its not gonna happen this side of the century for sure, but they know it. The evil fuqs angry
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