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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:48am On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
You asked a question and I have answered you. Do you know every single denomination of Churches in the world?
So, where was your Jehovah before he created the heavens and the earth?
Ọmọ you're still playing hide and seek! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:48am On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Does the Bible teach that God is everywhere?
Yes!
The Bible teaches that God is EVERYWHERE!


Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven , You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol , behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea , even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me.


Jeremiah 23:24:
"Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."


Acts 17:28a kills it by telling us that we LIVE inside God (as the Holy Spirit).
Act 17:28
"For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"


Jesus even said:
Mat 18:20:
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the middle of them."



See how instead of answering my questions, I am the one teaching you.

Will you now answer my question before digressing as usual!


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:50am On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So if you agree that God created the heavens and the earth in the beginning, where was he before he Created those things?
The Heavens and the Universe is inside/within God for God is the Eternal Infinite Spirit!

You didn't read my original post. This was well explained!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:52am On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So are you saying that the devil is part and within God?
Exactly!

He is a creation within God!
Just as the Angels are within God
And Everyone is within God
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:52am On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Yes!
The Bible teaches that God is EVERYWHERE!
Who said this!

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21 smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:54am On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
They will never answer but want JWs to address all their troubles! cheesy
You are the one who never answer simple questions!

I have answered even your questions in attempt of changing the topic. Where is your JW answers?

Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:55am On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So your God is also in the devil?
Who do you think sustains the devils life?
Himself!?

As a JW, do you think Jehovah is in sheol
Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me."


What is he doing there?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:56am On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
You are the one who never answer simple questions!
I have answered even your questions in attempt of changing the topic. Where is your JW answers?
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Which church you dey go?

I'm Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 12:04pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he

Jehovah's Witnesses will not TEACH you unless you agree that we are your teachers! wink
For someone who is dumbfounded with a simple question about his God.

1 Peter 3:15:
"But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. [b]Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. [/b]But do this with gentleness and respect"


I know it's probably skipped when you read your bible.

SMH
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 12:10pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Who do you think sustains the devils life?
Himself!?

As a JW, do you think Jehovah is in sheol
Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me."


What is he doing there?
So the life of the devil is God? So is God acting through the devil?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 12:11pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Which church you dey go?

I'm Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Are you making fun at me because I told you that my church is a small church?
Mat 7:14:
"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads to life, and few there be that find it."


I am NOT ashamed to tell you that my church is not a cathedral or a dome or of any fancy structure.


I am TenQ of the Church of Jesus Christ of Nazareth,


Now, will just answer my question?

Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 12:11pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Exactly!

He is a creation within God!
Just as the Angels are within God
And Everyone is within God
So a part of God is the devil? Are you saying that a part of God does bad and commits evil?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 12:14pm On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So the life of the devil is God? So is God acting through the devil?
Is the Active Force of the Holy Jehovah in the devil?
Yes or No!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:14pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Who do you think sustains the devils life?
Himself!?

As a JW, do you think Jehovah is in sheol
Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me."


What is he doing there?
The Psalmist is talking as God's servant who is under watch before the angels of God each time not just everyone.

This is what the scripture teaches:

"For the eyes of Jehovah are roving about through all the earth to show his strength in behalf of those whose heart is complete toward him. You have acted foolishly in this matter; from now on there will be wars against you.” 2 Chronicles 16:9

Jehovah has designed some angels with eyes all over their bodies to be watching throughout the earth {Ezekiel 10:12} it's these creatures that's reporting to Him Satan confirmed that this angels are the reasons why he (Satan) couldn't do anything to hurt Job {Job 1:10} Satan is asserting that these angels are standing around Job like body guards so he (Satan) feels intimidated with their presence but if God should command them to move away so that he can hurt Job the man will stop serving God.

So the Psalmist is talking about servants of God who are under the watch of His angels 24/7 not just everyone! smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:16pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
For someone who is dumbfounded with a simple question about his God.
1 Peter 3:15:
"But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. [b]Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. [/b]But do this with gentleness and respect"

I know it's probably skipped when you read your bible. SMH
That question i no go show you the answer unless you humbly accept me as your teacher! smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 12:17pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
The Heavens and the Universe is inside/within God for God is the Eternal Infinite Spirit!

You didn't read my original post. This was well explained!
So if the heavens and the universe is inside God, does God live in heaven?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 12:17pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Is the Active Force of the Holy Jehovah in the devil?
Yes or No!
Are you saying that the devil has the holy spirit of God?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:18pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Is the Active Force of the Holy Jehovah in the devil? Yes or No!
So because an ant is alive God is inside the ant! cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 12:25pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Yes!
The Bible teaches that God is EVERYWHERE!


Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven , You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol , behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea , even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me.


Jeremiah 23:24:
"Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."


Acts 17:28a kills it by telling us that we LIVE inside God (as the Holy Spirit).
Act 17:28
"For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"


Jesus even said:
Mat 18:20:
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the middle of them."



See how instead of answering my questions, I am the one teaching you.

Will you now answer my question before digressing as usual!


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Explain 1 kings 8:27.

King James Bible
But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 12:26pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Who said this!

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21 smiley
Of course, this is Yahweh the Word also known as Jesus Christ when He became human. John 1:1-4,14

Let me show you

Open your bible and show me how this is possible!

Genesis 19:24
"Then Yahweh (on earth with Abraham) rained on Sodom and on Gomorrah sulfur and fire from Yahweh out of the heavens."

Not wonder, Jesus said

John 8:56:
"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad."


I know that it wasn't part of what you memorised in your kingdom hall!

Will you now answer my question!

Just one question, two pages yet no answers
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 12:27pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So because an ant is alive God is inside the ant! cheesy
Is the Active Force of the Holy Jehovah in the Ant? Yes or No!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:31pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Of course, this is Yahweh the Word also known as Jesus Christ when He became human. John 1:1-4,14

Let me show you

Open your bible and show me how this is possible!

Genesis 19:24
"Then Yahweh (on earth with Abraham) rained on Sodom and on Gomorrah sulfur and fire from Yahweh out of the heavens."

Not wonder, Jesus said

John 8:56:
"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad."


I know that it wasn't part of what you memorised in your kingdom hall!

Will you now answer my question!

Just one question, two pages yet no answers.
Well the rain was angels work under the direction of God that's why Satan could do the same to destroy Job's belongings! Job 1:16

Perhaps you think God Himself rained fire to destroy Job's belongings. cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 12:32pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
I asked a simple question now!

The JW believe that their Jehovah is not Omnipresent. If he is not Omnipresent, he must be somewhere in space and time.

So, the question is very valid sir.


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything




Every wrong doctrine break down under interrogation!
I don't know what you mean by "their Jehovah"

But there is only one God who is YHVH (Jehovah) and there is no other YHVH.

As for where He is, haven't you read, it is written in Isa.57.15 The high and lofty one who inhabits eternity, the Holy One, says this: "I live in that high and holy place with those whose spirits are contrite and humble. I refresh the humble and give new courage to those with repentant hearts.

Have you not heard? Ps.24.3 Who may ascend the hill of the LORD(YHVH)? Who may stand in his holy place?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 12:36pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Exactly!

He is a creation within God!
Just as the Angels are within God
And Everyone is within God
of everything is already within God, why was there a need for restoration, restoring and redeeming all things back to God?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:38pm On Feb 14, 2025
We will not TEACH you unless you agree that Jehovah's Witnesses are the light of the world {Matthew 5:14-16} who should teach you what you don't know.

That's the thread below:

https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he

If you feel you've answered the question to the best of your ability there is no need calling JWs to come and answer it again! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 12:39pm On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So the life of the devil is God? So is God acting through the devil?
what life does the devil have? And why would God act through the devil?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 12:40pm On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Are you saying that the devil has the holy spirit of God?
🤣 tenq?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 12:41pm On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So a part of God is the devil? Are you saying that a part of God does bad and commits evil?
is God now in parts? 😒
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 12:43pm On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Explain 1 kings 8:27.

King James Bible
But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?
Khai!

Do you have any iota of understanding of the scripture at all?

Did AI not just told you that the WHOLE of existence is within God as the Holy Spirit?

The Father is the VISIBLE form of the Invisible Spirit in the Heavens. This is why the Father sits on His throne in Heaven.

Tell me if these scriptures contradict 1kings 8:27

Where did Jesus say the Father is
Mat 6:1:
"Take heed that you do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise you have no reward of your Father which is in heaven."

Please where is the Throne of God set
Rev 4:2:
"And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."


Heb 8:1:
"Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;"



Toddlers in my church can do better than this. I have explained 1 Kgs 8:27


See, I don't waste time responding to your questions
Will you now PLEASE answer my question?

Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 12:44pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Khai!

Do you have any iota of understanding of the scripture at all?

Did AI not just told you that the WHOLE of existence is within God as the Holy Spirit?

The Father is the VISIBLE form of the Invisible Spirit in the Heavens. This is why the Father sits on His throne in Heaven.

Tell me if these scriptures contradict 1kings 8:27

Where did Jesus say the Father is
Mat 6:1:
"Take heed that you do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise you have no reward of your Father which is in heaven."

Please where is the Throne of God set
Rev 4:2:
"And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."


Heb 8:1:
"Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;"



Toddlers in my church can do better than this. I have explained 1 Kgs 8:27


See, I don't waste time responding to your questions
Will you now PLEASE answer my question?

Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Does 1 kings 8:27 says that God is present on the earth?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:45pm On Feb 14, 2025
JWs use to give ourselves to people who are humble and willing to learn not arrogant people.

If you ask the question respectfully there is no reason to deny you knowledge we have nothing but things given to us! 1Corinthians 4:7

So correct yourself by addressing JWs respectfully and we will TEACH you! smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 12:45pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
In the Beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

But God had self-existed before creating ANYTHING.

We say that ALL existence physical and spiritual are INSIDE God as He is Omnipresent.

The JW believe that their Jehovah is not Omnipresent. If he is not Omnipresent, he must be somewhere in space and time.

So, the question is very valid sir.


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything
I have solved that problem for you. Trinity is an insult against the creator of heaven and earth. God is the creator, he is not part of creation. Does not make sense. Whatever he created was created inside of him. We are part of God and God is part of us. Whatever Christians claim for Jesus is applicable to every human being. If he can do magic. There are people who can too....BUT worshiping a man as God is nothing short of idolatry. That was the main reason he was punishing the Jews.
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