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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 3:21pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Yawa don gas! cheesy

Rebellion is what's affecting all of you.

God chose Jesus to teach mankind and Jesus chose a group of men to teach the rest that's the setting.

So if anyone disregards this setting there will always be confusion and insults will be the result when you people are SCATTERED spiritually speaking. Luke 11:23

That's what REBELLIOUSNESS does to people none of you can boldly say this is the name of my church because you are rebellious as you don't want submission to any group of men {Hebrews 13:7} yet Jesus have set the standard by choosing a group of men through whom he will direct the affairs of his earthly group! Luke 6:13

That's why the group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES often comes to your mind as you all can see a global family of peace loving worshipers all submissive to one group of anointed men! Act 2:42 smiley
let us pretend for a moment that Jesus is real.
Jesus lived and died around 30-33 CE.
Rutherford the founder of Jehovah's wittiness was born in the 19th century..

how and when did Jesus chose or call him? so you saying all the people from peter to pope Francis are all wrong and all other christian denomination?

oh, he heard about Jesus from the roman Catholics. he did not even investigate if the story is true or not, he went ahead to breakaway to form his own cult based on the ideas he found in the book published by Catholics..
tell me again what is the definition of a dummy?

and you living in the 21st century believe him.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 3:23pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Your stubbornness is nothing besides mine before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses so it's either you do the needful or nothing for you!
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?


Even when I asked you this question exactly as you wanted, you did NOT answer the Question!
SMH


Btw,
What is wrong with this question?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 3:23pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Obviously my answer is not needed with you! wink
i need am oh, like how Tinubu need presidency......and he still got it.

so ...deliver.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:25pm On Feb 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
what is the definition of a dummy?
How can you be this desperate simply because you want to hear from a dummy?

You that can cut someone's head for the mention of JESUS suddenly want to agree that Jesus is real.

Ọmọ humble yourself arrogance will only lead you astray.

If deep down in your heart you believe that i'm a dummy then why not go look for those who aren't dummy to discuss with them? smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:26pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?

Even when I asked you this question exactly as you wanted, you did NOT answer the Question!
SMH
Btw,
What is wrong with this question?
Just do the needful and i will oblige even though i know you won't accept but for the benefit of interested followers of this thread i promise to answer! smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 3:27pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
That is why I say that our God is different!
OK, so i am asking you too

when was your God born? who created your GOD?

obviously he was not the one that existed from the beginning and created all things.

who is your GOD?
i want a description.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:27pm On Feb 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
i need am oh, like how Tinubu need presidency......and he still got it.
so ...deliver.
From a dummy shey? cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 3:28pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
How can you be this desperate simply because you want to hear from a dummy?

You that can cut someone's head for the mention of JESUS suddenly want to agree that Jesus is real.

Ọmọ humble yourself arrogance will only lead you astray.

If deep down in your heart you believe that i'm a dummy then why not go look for those who aren't dummy to discuss with them? smiley
lets pretend he is real for this moment.

so answer me
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 3:29pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
From a dummy shey? cheesy
if you claim something and cant back it up.....wetin you be?

so redeem yourself.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:29pm On Feb 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
lets pretend he is real for this moment.
so answer me
I don't pretend but if you do then wait for Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighborhood so you can PRETEND as if you want to learn from them.

As for me it's a NO NO! Matthew 7:6 smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:30pm On Feb 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
if you claim something and cant back it up.....wetin you be?
so redeem yourself.
Wait for other dummies nah! cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:33pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ
I suspect you don't know how to edit the topic of your thread so go back to your first post try to edit and before the post you will see the topic and from there you can edit the topic.

I'll be waiting! smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 3:34pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Just do the needful and i will oblige even though i know you won't accept but for the benefit of interested followers of this thread i promise to answer! smiley
OK please Maxindhouse, i am sorry for whatever i have said since, please forgive me. i want to learn from the fountain of your knowledge and wisdom. please can you answer the question please?

Question 1:
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 3:36pm On Feb 14, 2025
I will still be waiting.

TenQ Please edit the topic
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:40pm On Feb 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
OK please Maxindhouse, i am sorry for whatever i have said since, please forgive me. i want to learn from the fountain of your knowledge and wisdom. please can you answer the question please?
Question 1:
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
sonmvayina:
I will still be waiting.
TenQ Please edit the topic
When he does i will answer but until then do enjoy your weekend i wish you the best of whatever people out there believe if you too love to flow with them! smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 5:28pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Your stubbornness is nothing besides mine before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses so it's either you do the needful or nothing for you!
I do not know what is difficult with this
1. Is Jehovah the God of the JWs?
2. Is Jehovah of the Jehovah's witnesses the creator of everything?
3. Is Jehovah of the Jehovah's witnesses self existing and everliving?


If the above is true according to the doctrine of the JW, what is wrong with my simple question

The question I asked is simply this:
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?


Please let the JWs educate us!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 5:33pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
I do not know what is difficult with this
1. Is Jehovah the God of the JWs?
2. Is Jehovah of the Jehovah's witnesses the creator of everything?
3. Is Jehovah of the Jehovah's witnesses self existing and everliving?


If the above is true according to the doctrine of the JW, what is wrong with my simple question

The question I asked is simply this:
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?


Please let the JWs educate us!
Maximus, come and give us a comprehensive lecture on those course outlines.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 5:33pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Just do the needful and i will oblige even though i know you won't accept but for the benefit of interested followers of this thread i promise to answer! smiley
A foolish excuse to avoid a serious question!

Why must I beg to hear what you teach as doctrine of your God?

Except of course you are ASHAMED of what you teach yourself.


I am convinced you are ashamed of your God!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 5:42pm On Feb 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
OK, so i am asking you too

when was your God born? who created your GOD?

obviously he was not the one that existed from the beginning and created all things.

who is your GOD?
i want a description.
My God is a SPIRIT, the Uncaused First-Cause, Creator and sustainer of Everything that Exists physical or spiritual. In Him the whole universe physical or spiritual resides. He is the LIFE. He is the LIGHT. He is LOVE. He is Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient. His name is YHWH!

Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 5:45pm On Feb 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
TenQ
I suspect you don't know how to edit the topic of your thread so go back to your first post try to edit and before the post you will see the topic and from there you can edit the topic.

I'll be waiting! smiley
The request of an agent of the flesh!

If you don't know the answer, keep quiet!
It's not by force to answer a question you don't have a clue!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Janosky: 5:59pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
My God is a SPIRIT, the Uncaused First-Cause, Creator and sustainer of Everything that Exists physical or spiritual. In Him the whole universe physical or spiritual resides. He is the LIFE. He is the LIGHT. He is LOVE. He is Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient. His name is YHWH!

Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name?

Trinity worshipping devotee pseudo christian confusing himself.

Yunewa chichom chin.

I laugh in Chinese.

grin grin grin grin
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Janosky: 6:03pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
I do not know what is difficult with this
1. Is Jehovah the God of the JWs?
2. Is Jehovah of the Jehovah's witnesses the creator of everything?
3. Is Jehovah of the Jehovah's witnesses self existing and everliving?


If the above is true according to the doctrine of the JW, what is wrong with my simple question

The question I asked is simply this:
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?


Please let the JWs educate us!
If you really love yourself, do research with your Bible and find the answers.
Post your findings on this forum.

Or:

Oga, if you are not seeking attention and arguments, just seek out your fellow Trinity worshipping devotees and mingle with them, to exchange Intel from your ghost deity.

JW's no get your time.
Period!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op):
sonmvayina:
I will still be waiting.

TenQ Please edit the topic
No!

His suggested new headline is a trap for the Christians o!

Where was God before he created heaven? JWs please Help us

The first part is okay
Where was God before he created heaven?
The second part is evil
JWs please Help us

Firstly
Editing my topic to his suggestion is a no no because This is an admission that Trinitarian Christians don't know the answers and requires Help from the Jehovah's witnesses.
This he would publicly repost a million times for humiliation purposes that Trinitarian Christians BEGGED JW for an answer because they don't have an answer.

Secondly,
whatever RUBBISH he posts as an answer would be deemed as TRUE because we seemingly asked for help.

Thirdly,
It was a calculated EVASIVE manoeuvre to escape answering the question. He would stick to it as long as it takes. If I fall for it, it is his gain and if I don't, he doesn't answer the question


So, Maximus will never answer the question as he has no good answer that wouldn't humiliate his God by his own response.



You will note that if they had some arguments, the JWs would have flooded this thread from Janosky to Maximus, all of them. For this question, they have no answer.

It is a failure of their theology that caused this problem!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 6:45pm On Feb 14, 2025
Janosky:

Trinity worshipping devotee pseudo christian confusing himself.

Yunewa chichom chin.

I laugh in Chinese.

grin grin grin grin
Welcome Janosky,
Can you please answer the simple question!

Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?


Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op):
Janosky:
If you really love yourself, do research with your Bible and find the answers.
Post your findings on this forum.

Or:

Oga, if you are not seeking attention and arguments, just seek out your fellow Trinity worshipping devotees and mingle with them, to exchange Intel from your ghost deity.

JW's no get your time.
Period!
The question I asked is simply this:
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?


All of you JW have been deaf and dumb to this question directed at you



I have posted the Trinitarian response over and over again but you feign deaf and dumb . Let we give you again


TenQ:
The answer is extremely simple and built into the Trinity. What did Jesus teach?

God is SPIRIT (the infinite Spirit) who is EVERYWHERE.
John 4:24:
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."


As the Holy Spirit, God is INVISIBLE either on the earth (Physical Realm) or the heavens (Spiritual realm). The Holy Spirit is like AIR (RUACH) whose Presence through His actions can only be felt. In other words, the Holy Spirit is the Omnipresent existence of God.

Thus, the whole of the Universe (Physical and Spiritual) is INSIDE the Spirit of God as God the Holy Spirit is INVISIBLE

Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me."
Jeremiah 23:24:
"Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."


Acts 17:28a kills it by telling us that we LIVE inside God (as the Holy Spirit).
Act 17:28
"For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"


The Word (The Son , Jesus) on Earth is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God, the Messanger of God's presence.

Colossians 1:15:
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation"


The Father is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God in the Heavens who sits on the throne in heaven to preside over it.


This is why in Genesis 19:24, Yahweh on earth could rain down fire from Yahweh in heaven.

Genesis 19:24
"Then Yahweh (on earth with Abraham) rained on Sodom and on Gomorrah sulfur and fire from Yahweh out of the heavens."


This is why in the Throne room of the FATHER in Heaven, you cannot SEE the Holy Spirit. You can only see the Father and the Word (the Lamb, the Son) because ALL EXISTENCE are inside Him


So the question of WHERE was God is misinformed because ALL existence physical and spiritual is INSIDE God.


The whole Universe physical and spiritual are all a tiny subset WITHIN God as the Holy Spirit.



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Now you cannot complain.


What is your own response?



The question I asked is simply this:
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 8:34pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
The question I asked is simply this:
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?


All of you JW have been deaf and dumb to this question directed at you



I have posted the Trinitarian response over and over again but you feign deaf and dumb . Let we give you again





Now you cannot complain.


What is your own response?



The question I asked is simply this:
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
My oga.
Does the devil have the holy spirit?

If the devil is within God, does that mean that evil is present with God?

Does 1 kings 8:27 say that God is present on earth?

If Heavens and earth reside inside God according to you, does God live in heaven?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:07pm On Feb 14, 2025
Janosky:
If you really love yourself, do research with your Bible and find the answers. Post your findings on this forum.
Or:
Oga, if you are not seeking attention and arguments, just seek out your fellow Trinity worshipping devotees and mingle with them, to exchange Intel from your ghost deity.
JW's no get your time.
Period!
Let him keep whatever he thinks he knows while we keep ours there's no need of exchange since we don't need his own! smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m):
sonmvayina:
Maximus, come and give us a comprehensive lecture on those course outlines.
We don't throw our pearls before swine {Matthew 7:6} if he doesn't cherish what we teach we know it's value so let him be! wink

Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:36pm On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
My oga.
Does the devil have the holy spirit?

If the devil is within God, does that mean that evil is present with God?

Does 1 kings 8:27 say that God is present on earth?

If Heavens and earth reside inside God according to you, does God live in heaven?
God is a unit. The universe. Because it is mental. Devil or whatever you want to call them are all God's creations. The last time I checked, everything he created was Good. The only time God regretted creating anything was for man.
Devil is not a God. Only the creator is a God. I don't know where you got the idea that the devil is evil. Stop watching those fake Hollywood movies, they are all misleading. We are God's spirit having a human experience. See Ecclesiastics 12:7 and Psalm 104:29-31.
Yes, evil reside with God alone. Nothing else. That's why he is almighty. See Isaiah 45:7. Nothing happens without God saying Ok. (See the story of Job) Satan does only what God tells him to do. He is sovereign over all his creations.
You don't even think, all you do is ask stupid questions up and down. Think before you type anything... The brain is not for decoration.
There is no separate God for good and another God for evil. There is only one God that is responsible for both.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:41pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
My God is a SPIRIT, the Uncaused First-Cause, Creator and sustainer of Everything that Exists physical or spiritual. In Him the whole universe physical or spiritual resides. He is the LIFE. He is the LIGHT. He is LOVE. He is Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient. His name is YHWH!

Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name?
How do you know he exist if he is a spirit? ..you can't see him obviously....so how did you know his name?

You read it from a book right?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Sirmwill: 9:51pm On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Does the Bible teach that God is everywhere?
Yes
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 9:52pm On Feb 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
How do you know he exist if he is a spirit? ..you can't see him obviously....so how did you know his name?

You read it from a book right?
Please, Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name?

I wasn't ashamed to tell you who my God is and I even told you His Holy name!
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