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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 3:56pm On Feb 15, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Lol....So Solomon with his God given wisdom did not know that God is present everywhere?

Did Solomon also lie in 1 kings 8:30 that God lives in heaven?
This is explicit by Jehovah himself isn't it?
Jer 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.



Is Jehovah wrong and Solomon correct?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:23pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
This is after you failed your challenge.
Two simple questions: zero marks
Close your eyes in shame!
Humbly and openly admit that you need the help of Jehovah's Witnesses:

Woke4all:
Contact a Jehovah`s witness for help
Thousands of religions out there claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so if you call out only Jehovah's Witnesses that shows you know where you can get help but being arrogant will not help you! wink

Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 4:55pm On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Humbly and openly admit that you need the help of Jehovah's Witnesses:



Thousands of religions out there claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so if you call out only Jehovah's Witnesses that shows you know where you can get help but being arrogant will not help you! wink
I asked your members who came to my house. They said they were going to come back almost 3 years loading, they've ran away.

Same question posted to all JWs on Nairaland, they were confounded as they have not answer.


Shame on you all!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:48pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
I asked your members who came to my house. They said they were going to come back almost 3 years loading, they've ran away. Same question posted to all JWs on Nairaland, they were confounded as they have not answer.
Shame on you all!
Attitude matters a lot if truly you want to learn there's a way you will address your supposed teacher.

Meet Nairalanders who have benefited from comments of Jehovah's Witnesses:

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment
SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.
Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.
CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.

But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check
CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point
Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!
naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.
Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much
Just like you some of them weren't calm but after a while even one who is not a Bible believer said:

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.
So it's your word against theirs that's why your agitation can't move someone like me! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 6:56pm On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Attitude matters a lot if truly you want to learn there's a way you will address your supposed teacher.

Meet Nairalanders who have benefited from comments of Jehovah's Witnesses:

















Just like you some of them weren't calm but after a while even one who is not a Bible believer said:



So it's your word against theirs that's why your agitation can't move someone like me! wink
Cry me a river!

Shame on you. No answer but like satan will still keep struggling over lies he manufactured for himself.

Is it UNTRUE that you were taught by your Governing Body that Jehovah of the JW is not Omnipresent?

It's like none of you ever read Jer 23:24
Jer 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.


You better go and ask questions about other errors they have taught you!

The love of Falsehood will not allow him to accept what their Jehovah said. Maximus is waiting for the old men in Brooklyn to give him the new instructions to follow!
SMH!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:59pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
Cry me a river!
Shame on you. No answer but like satan will still keep struggling over lies he manufactured for himself. Is it UNTRUE that you were taught by your Governing Body that Jehovah of the JW is not Omnipresent? It's like none of you ever read Jer 23:24
Jer 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.

You better go and ask questions about other errors they have taught you!
You want to learn from people yet you're shouting at them.
Of course they will keep quiet with their wealth of knowledge while you're shouting due to your emptiness!
Attitude! smiley

Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:05pm On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Attitude! smiley
If there were attitude, why did they promise to come back and discuss with me?
But of course, you were not there, so you cannot know!

Mat 5:37:
"But let your communication be, Yes, yes; No, no: for whatever is more than these comes of evil."



It's like none of you ever read Jer 23:24
Jer 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.


You better go and ask questions about other errors they have taught you!

The love of Falsehood will not allow him to accept what their Jehovah said. Maximus is waiting for the old men in Brooklyn to give him the new instructions to follow!
SMH!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:19pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
Maximus.
About Max hear from them! wink
Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment
SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.
Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.
Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.
CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.

But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check
CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point
Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!
naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.
Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much
Jacktheripper:
This sounds particularly interesting.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 7:22pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
My God is a SPIRIT, the Uncaused First-Cause, Creator and sustainer of Everything that Exists physical or spiritual. In Him the whole universe physical or spiritual resides. He is the LIFE. He is the LIGHT. He is LOVE. He is Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient. His name is YHWH!

Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name?
so YHVH and Jehovah are two different names?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 8:59pm On Feb 15, 2025
gohf:
so YHVH and Jehovah are two different names?
My YHWH is Omnipresent
My Jehovah is Omnipresent

Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 9:07pm On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
About Max hear from them! wink
Unfortunately, this same Maximus couldn't answer simple questions from Educated Disciple of Jesus Christ.

He becomes tongue tied like the Pharisees and Sadducees when Jesus drop simple question on them: And he begins to trash about like one possessed with the serpentine spirit without answering making meaning even to himself.


It's like none of you ever read Jer 23:24
Jer 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.


You better go and ask questions about other errors they have taught you!

The love of Falsehood will not allow him to accept what their Jehovah said. Maximus is waiting for the old men in Brooklyn to give him the new instructions to follow!
SMH!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:42pm On Feb 15, 2025
They don't want to answer because they know their answer will not make any sense or it will be filled with fallacies. They have gone through the question and thought about their answer(that is the JW position and probably seen that it has so many holes more than a Swiss cheese..
So they did the most probably thing...keep mute.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:43pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
Unfortunately, this same Maximus couldn't answer simple questions from Educated Disciple of Jesus Christ.

He becomes tongue tied like the Pharisees and Sadducees when Jesus drop simple question on them: And he begins to trash about like one possessed with the serpentine spirit without answering making meaning even to himself.


It's like none of you ever read Jer 23:24
Jer 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.


You better go and ask questions about other errors they have taught you!

The love of Falsehood will not allow him to accept what their Jehovah said. Maximus is waiting for the old men in Brooklyn to give him the new instructions to follow!
SMH!
Surely you are not yet ready to learn.

Farewell! smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:49pm On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Surely you are not yet ready to learn.

Farewell! smiley
Answer the question...quit deflating..
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 9:52pm On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Surely you are not yet ready to learn.

Farewell! smiley
So why don't you first clarify the contradiction between the plain text of the scripture in Jer 23:24 and the doctrine of the JW about their Jehovah who is not Omnipresent.


It's like none of you ever read Jer 23:24
Jer 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.


You better go and ask questions about other errors they have taught you!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 10:11pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
My YHWH is Omnipresent
My Jehovah is Omnipresent

Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent?
hear o Israel Jehovah our God Jehovah is one
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:15pm On Feb 15, 2025
gohf:
hear o Israel Jehovah our God Jehovah is one
This is NOT the Question: I didn't ask you if God was more than one.

Again:
Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 10:21pm On Feb 15, 2025
If you had read would you not understand, would you parade your ignorance as your arrogance.
https://www.nairaland.com/8342531/answering-question-god-omnipresent

Even the word of God you quote denies you.

I did not send these prophets, yet they have run with their message; I did not speak to them, yet they have prophesied. But if they had stood in my council, they would have proclaimed my words to my people and would have turned them from their evil ways and from their evil deeds. “Am I only a God nearby,” declares the Lord, “and not a God far away? Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?” declares the Lord. “Do not I fill heaven and earth?” declares the Lord. “I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, ‘I had a dream! I had a dream!’ Jeremiah 23: 21 - 25

My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from me, nor is their sin concealed from my eyes. Jeremiah 16: 17

For your ways are in full view of the Lord, and he examines all your paths. Proverbs 5: 21

The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.” Proverbs 15:3

Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. Hebrews 4:13


Yet you do not understand, no you refuse to understand, no you had been made to not understand because if understanding had been given to you, you wouldn't argue blindly against what has been written clearly.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 10:22pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
This is NOT the Question: I didn't ask you if God was more than one.

Again:
Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent?
have you never read that in your bible before?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:45pm On Feb 15, 2025
gohf:
have you never read that in your bible before?
The answer is either YES or NO sir!

See how evasive you've become because you can't accept the truth. Are you AFRAID of committing yourself?

Again:
Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:49pm On Feb 15, 2025
gohf:
If you had read would you not understand, would you parade your ignorance as your arrogance.
https://www.nairaland.com/8342531/answering-question-god-omnipresent

Even the word of God you quote denies you.

I did not send these prophets, yet they have run with their message; I did not speak to them, yet they have prophesied. But if they had stood in my council, they would have proclaimed my words to my people and would have turned them from their evil ways and from their evil deeds. “Am I only a God nearby,” declares the Lord, “and not a God far away? Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?” declares the Lord. “Do not I fill heaven and earth?” declares the Lord. “I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, ‘I had a dream! I had a dream!’ Jeremiah 23: 21 - 25

My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from me, nor is their sin concealed from my eyes. Jeremiah 16: 17

For your ways are in full view of the Lord, and he examines all your paths. Proverbs 5: 21

The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.” Proverbs 15:3

Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. Hebrews 4:13


Yet you do not understand, no you refuse to understand, no you had been made to not understand because if understanding had been given to you, you wouldn't argue blindly against what has been written clearly.
According to Prov 15:3 where is the eyes of Jehovah?

Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.”
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 10:50pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
The answer is either YES or NO sir!

See how evasive you've become because you can't accept the truth. Are you AFRAID of committing yourself?

Again:
Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent?
if I have been evasive as you have claimed, why haven't you answered any of the simple questions as well?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by gohf: 10:51pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
According to Prov 15:3 where is the eyes of Jehovah?

Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.”
have you read my answer here
https://www.nairaland.com/8342531/answering-question-god-omnipresent
Or are you being evasive?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 6:02am On Feb 16, 2025
gohf:
have you read my answer here
https://www.nairaland.com/8342531/answering-question-god-omnipresent
Or are you being evasive?
See the person dodging a Single line statement of an answer accusing others of evasive manoeuvres!


According to Prov 15:3 where is the eyes of Jehovah?

Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.”
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 6:05am On Feb 16, 2025
gohf:
if I have been evasive as you have claimed, why haven't you answered any of the simple questions as well?
I did answer this question sir.
Here below is the evidence and the first time I asked you this PLAIN and SIMPLE question

TenQ:
My YHWH is Omnipresent
My Jehovah is Omnipresent

Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent?
Again
Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent?
It is an affirmation answer of YES or NO required sir.

And stop being evasive!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10:
TenQ:
This is explicit by Jehovah himself isn't it?
Jer 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.



Is Jehovah wrong and Solomon correct?
Who gave Solomon wisdom? If Solomon was lying, explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.

If you interprete Jeremiah 23:24 to mean that God is present everywhere, do you agree that God is in the devil?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 8:26am On Feb 16, 2025
Sirmwill:
Very Very funny


Read that Chapter and the next Chapter and see what God said.
Let's see if you have understanding
Oga answer my question
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10:
TenQ:
No sir
Act 17:28
"For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"

Please answer YES or NO:
Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
So does God live in heaven or heaven lives in God? Which one sir?

Please use your interpretation of Jeremiah 23:24 to explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 8:30am On Feb 16, 2025
TenQ:
Before I answer this question, will you first answer mine except you don't have any answer

Is this scripture wrong? Jer 23: 24 as it answers your question! Where is satan; according to the bible?

So, again I ask you the simple question:
1. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?

2. Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Oga answer the question below.

So the devil does not have the holy spirit...but God is in the devil?

Do you agree that the diagram in the screenshot below is correct in explaining the Trinity?

Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 9:10am On Feb 16, 2025
Can you see that you actively avoid answering questions

Truthseeker10:
Who gave Solomon wisdom? If Solomon was lying, explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.
God gave Solomon wisdom and he wasn't telling lies because in the Trinitarian doctrine, God can be EVERYWHERE as the Holy Spirit and at the same time on His throne in Heaven as the Father.

Is your own God able to do this? Yes or No!


Truthseeker10:
If you interprete Jeremiah 23:24 to mean that God is present everywhere, do you agree that God is in the devil?
If the Life force of Jehovah is in the devil, Yes! Because
Is it true that Jehovah fills the earth?
If it is true, and satan goes to and fro the earth surface, is satan inside the place Jehovah has filled?

Is your God in Sheol?
Exactly the same answer!





Now will you answer my question

This is explicit by Jehovah himself isn't it?
Jer 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.


Is Jehovah wrong and Solomon correct?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 9:14am On Feb 16, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Oga answer the question below.

So the devil does not have the holy spirit...but God is in the devil?

Do you agree that the diagram in the screenshot below is correct in explaining the Trinity?
Don't avoid answering my question with another question all in the name of escaping the implications.

I will answer your simple question ONLY after you answer mine.
Is this scripture wrong? Jer 23: 24 as it answers your question! Where is satan; according to the bible?

So, again I ask you the simple question:
1. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?

2. Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 9:15am On Feb 16, 2025
TenQ:
Don't avoid answering my question with another question all in the name of escaping the implications.

I will answer your simple question ONLY after you answer mine.
Is this scripture wrong? Jer 23: 24 as it answers your question! Where is satan; according to the bible?

So, again I ask you the simple question:
1. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?

2. Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Oga use your interpretation of Jeremiah 23:24 to explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.
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