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Our mumu don do.


First, Yoruba was arabized, then wants to foolanized by Fulanis.



Bi oti wuni ni a ti ṣe ìmọ̀le ẹni.

Astronomical calculations are more accurate for an accurate Islamic practice.

Mrfeel:
Yoruba's fought no wars , the only war you fought was still between yourselves and afon-ja prostrated before his master like a typical Yoruba man and went and joined Fulanis to fight his master at the price of illorin

Go and take several seats. Yoruba fought no wars but the Oyo empire spread even outside the present day Nigeria and SW? Like I said, your ancestors were still neanderthals when Yorubas have been building empires. Na mumu Lord luggard go mix non entities with royal families, if not, you'll be our slaves. For goodness sake, Igala people (sub-yoruba group) and the ijaws took your people as slaves.

DeOTR:
Go and take several seats. Yoruba fought no wars but the Oyo empire spread even outside the present day Nigeria and SW? Like I said, your ancestors were still neanderthals when Yorubas have been building empires. Na mumu Lord luggard go mix non entities with royal families, if not, you'll be our slaves. For goodness sake, Igala people (sub-yoruba group) and the ijaws took your people as slaves.

I repeat yoruba's fought no wars the only wars yoruba's fought was between themselves, they were terribly beating by minority Fulanis ,betrayed by their own son afon-ja the Alaafin of oyo cursed his own people before commiting suicide shamefully

If not for lord luggard the Fulanis could have succeeded in their jihad to conquered Yorubaland till they deep the Quran in the sea

Mrfeel:
Whatever those peeps are doing is not igbo culture they are doing their individual thing


You Yoruba's fall on all fours to worship God and fall on all fours to worship your fellow man it's a culture of cowards

Who is this fool that can't differentiate between worship and prostrate.

Even your bible mentioned Abraham prostrating to fellow men.
Genesis 18.2
Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground.

Are U saying Abraham worshipped those three men?
Mumu

1 Samuel 28
14 “What does he look like?” he asked.
“An old man wearing a robe is coming up,” she said.
[b]Then Saul knew it was Samuel, and he bowed down and prostrated [/b]himself with his face to the ground

Below are pictures of Chinese and Japanese bowing/prostrating to their parents.

Is your tribe in any way greater than china or Japan nation.

Mumu with half brain. Travel and cure your illiterate mind. The world doesn't revolve round your primitive brain.

SIRTee15:
Who is this fool that can't differentiate between worship and prostrate.

Even your bible mentioned Abraham prostrating to fellow men.
Genesis 18.2
Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground.

Are U saying Abraham worshipped those three men?
Mumu

1 Samuel 28
14 “What does he look like?” he asked.
“An old man wearing a robe is coming up,” she said.
[b]Then Saul knew it was Samuel, and he bowed down and prostrated [/b]himself with his face to the ground

Below are pictures of Chinese and Japanese bowing/prostrating to their parents.

Is your tribe in any way greater than china or Japan nation.

Mumu with half brain. Travel and cure your illiterate mind. The world doesn't revolve round your primitive brain.

If you read your Bible currently you will know the men Abraham prostrated to were Angels , and saul was prostrating to Samuels spirit long after he had died


Stop arguing trying to defend your slave masters culture were a man with hairy balls dangling between his legs, go down on all fours falls on his face to greet his fellow man, a primitive slave culture were a man is scared to look his fellow man in the eye

Mrfeel:
Yoruba's fought no wars , the only war you fought was still between yourselves and afon-ja prostrated before his master like a typical Yoruba man and went and joined Fulanis to fight his master at the price of illorin

Hey! STOP that irresponsible disinformation on this thread, you are making yourself look absolutely unintelligent here. Several famous and credible books such as: "War and Peace in Yorubaland 1793-1893" (The four sections in the book deal with War, Peace, the Yoruba Generals and their War Tactics), "Yoruba Warfare In The 19th Century" by Ade Ajayi and Robert Smith (It provides a comprehensive analysis of the military conflicts and strategies that shaped the Yoruba states during the 1800s), "The History of the Yorubas" by Reverend Samuel Johnson, "The History of Nigeria" by Sir Allan Burns (who was the Governor-General of Nigeria and Ghana), books written by Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther (whose mother was a direct royal descendant of Alaafin Abiodun of the Oyo Empire) all from the 1800s and 1900s containing documented evidence from White and African missionaries, historians, British and French Colonial officers CLEARLY state these facts of history in Yorubaland about wars and Yoruba military forces ruthlessly DEFEATING the Fulani jihadists (and the few Yoruba Muslim traitors among them from Ilorin who pointed the way for them) on multiple battlefields such as the famous and decisive "Battle of Osogbo" in 1840, which prevented the entire Yorubaland from becoming Fulani emirates today and also definitely saved Benin Republic, modern Edo and Delta States, etc, from falling into Fulani hands.

Second, the "Yoruba" name and etymology is NOT derogatory like you have irresponsibly tried to infer BUT it evolved and was introduced officially for modern use in 1843 by the first ever African-born Anglican Bishop who is of Oyo descent, Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther to represent the entire Yoruba Country of today which extends from Nigeria, to Benin Republic and Togo. The name Yoruba is derived from "OYO OBA" meaning "OYO is KING" affirming the supremacy or primacy of the Oyo Empire among other Yoruba subgroups who are related to one another. The name "Aku" was also considered because it was already in use by some foreign writers in the 1800s especially in Sierra Leone, and the name "Olukumi or Lucumi" was also in use in Cuba with the etymology derived from Yoruba salutations among Yoruba folks. But FINALLY the name Yoruba gained official recognition with the usage by Ajayi Crowther in the FIRST EVER Yoruba-English dictionary of 1843 and the Yoruba Bible. So, it is NOT a derogatory word coined by Hausas as being falsely concocted and pushed around the Internet by insidious young Igbos in YouTube comments and those imbecilic ipob Websites. NO such silly word called "Yoruba*za" exists among the Hausas. That satanic word Yoruba*za having "banza" in it was coined in recent times by highly irresponsible ipob Igbos as an "ethnic slur" NOT Hausas! "Yarubawa" is the Hausa way of simply pronouncing "Yoruba." For centuries before Nigeria existed, Yorubas of the Oyo Empire and the Hausa city-states traded together via the Nupe country bringing in regular supplies of horses and Yorubas exported woven fabric, kolanuts, etc, WITHOUT any use of derogatory language. Historically, Hausas have NEVER used "ethnic slurs" against Yorubas.

A few of the exonyms the Yoruba are known by across West Africa include: "Alata" in Southern Ghana, "Eyagi" in Nupe which produced terms such as: Ayagi (the pre-modern Hausa word for the Yoruba people) and Iyaji in Igala.

The Hausa too were named "Afnu" by the Kanuri and "Gambari" by the Yoruba, only that the exonyms for Hausa did not catch on.

In the book written by R.O. Olaniyi in 2007 entitled: "Hausa-Yoruba Relations 1500-1800: A Historical Perspective," he states that: "Contrary to widespread accounts, there is NO material to show that the term Yoruba was originally used by the Hausa to describe Yorubas derogatorily."

Some of you young Igbos foolishly allow ipob propaganda to mislead you all and you go on posting fake news all over the place. I have visited many of those Igbo secessionist platforms and all the fake histories written on Yoruba folks and other Nigerian ethnic groups that you all post here on NL are copied from those evil sites.

While it is historically TRUE that a series of Civil Wars took place in Yorubaland due to the fact that there was a power struggle in the Oyo Empire leading to other Confederate Kingdoms under Oyo Empire to seek for independence from Oyo Empire (which extended from modern Nigeria to Benin Republic and Togo). It was these internal divisions that gave the opportunity for the outside enemies like the foreign Fulanis to use treachery to strike in Ilorin in the 1830s just like they had done to the Hausas, Nupes, Kanuris and others starting from 1804 when their fake jihad started (which also involved capturing entire people from their communities and selling them as slaves).

It was the bravery and eternal vigilance of the Ibadan Army led by Aare Latoosa, General (Balogun) Oderinlo [who were both practicing Muslims, other military commanders and Ibadan soldiers] including Osogbo soldiers and military commanders that led to the resounding defeat of the combined Fulani (some Hausa and Yoruba Muslims of Ilorin) jihadists invaders at the Historically famous Battle of Osogbo in 1840. The Ibadan Army also defeated another Fulani raid into Yorubaland at Otun in Ekiti and the Fulanis NEVER dared to invade the interior of Yorubaland again. The Fulanis suffered other defeats in the hands of combined forces of the Yorubas thereby leading them to flee from the environs of Ilorin right across the River Niger into parts of the current Niger State where the gallant Yoruba soldiers pursued them to. Unknown to many of the younger people, as of the time the British Colonialists forces got to Ilorin in the 1890s, Ilorin was effectively 100 percent in the hands of Balogun Alanamu and his high ranking Yoruba generals but because they chose to fight the British and as punishment, they got deported from Ilorin ONLY for the stupid British people to mistakely bring a Foreigner who was NOT an indigenous Yoruba man as the Amir. This person was of Gambari descent (Hausa descent). Later the British agreed that Ilorin is indeed a Yoruba town and restated that a referendum should be done so that a Yoruba Oba can be installed for the Yorubas of Ilorin as of the time the 1960 independence was approaching.

In order to transform from an Oyo Kingdom into and Oyo Empire (just like the Ashanti Empire, Benin Empire or the much larger British Empire) you have to militarily conquer other Kingdoms, towns and communities and incorporate them into your territory and that's how the Oyo Empire came into existence stretching from modern Nigeria, to Benin Republic and Togo.

Konquest:
Hey! STOP that disinformation on this thread you are making yourself look absolutely unintelligent here. Several famous and credible books such as: "War and Peace in Yorubaland 1793-1893" (The four sections in the book deal with War, Peace, the Yoruba Generals and their War Tactics), "Yoruba Warfare In The 19th Century" by Ade Ajayi and Robert Smith (It provides a comprehensive analysis of the military conflicts and strategies that shaped the Yoruba states during the 1800s), "The History of the Yorubas" by Reverend Samuel Johnson, "The History of Nigeria" by Sir Allan Burns (who was the Governor-Genetal of Nigeria), books written by Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther (whose mother was a direct royal descendant of Alaafin Abiodun of the Oyo Empire) all from the 1800s and 1900s containing documented evidence from White and African missionaries, historians, British and French Colonial officers CLEARLY state these facts of history in Yorubaland about wars and Yoruba military forces ruthlessly DEFEATING the Fulani Jihadists (and the few Yoruba Muslim traitors among them from Ilorin who pointed the way for them) on multiple war battlefields such as the famous and decisive Battle of Osogbo in 1840, which prevented the entire Yorubaland from [b]becoming Fulani emirates today and also definitely saved Benin Republic, modern Edo and Delta States from falling to Fulani hands.

Second, the name and etymology called "Yoruba" today is NOT a derogatory name like you tried to infer BUT evolved and introduced officially for modern use in 1843 by the first ever African-born Anglican Bishop of Oyo descent, Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther to represent the entire Yoruba Country of today which extends from Nigeria, to Benin Republic and Togo. The name Yoruba is derived from "OYO OBA" meaning "OYO is KING" affirming the supremacy or primacy of the Oyo Empire among other Yoruba subgroups who are related to one another. The name Aku was also considered because it was already in use by some writers in the 1800s, and the name Olukumi was also in use as forms of salutations among Yoruba folks. But FINALLY the name Yoruba gained official recognition with the usage by Ajayi Crowther in the FIRST EVER Yoruba-English dictionary of 1843 and the Yoruba Bible. [/b] So, it is NOT a derogatory word coined by Hausas as being falsely concocted and pushed around the Internet by insidious young Igbos in YouTube comments and those ipob Websites. NO such silly word called "Yoruba*za" exists among the Hausas. That satanic word Yoruba*za having banza in it was coined by Igbos NOT Hausas. "Yarubawa" is the Hausa way of simply pronouncing Yoruba. For centuries before Nigeria existed, Yorubas of Oyo Empire and the Hausa city-states traded together via the Nupe country bringing in regular supply of horses and Yorubas exporter woven fabric, kolanuts, etc, WITHOUT any use of derogatory language.

A few of the exonyms the Yoruba are known by across West Africa include: "Alata" in the Southern Ghana, "Eyagi" in Nupe which produced terms such as: Ayagi (the pre-modern Hausa word for the Yoruba people) and Iyaji in Igala.

The Hausa too were named "Afnu" by the Kanuri and "Gambari" by the Yoruba, only that the exonyms for Hausa did not catch on.

In the book written by R.O. Olaniyi in 2007 entitled: "Hausa-Yoruba Relations 1500-1800: A Historical Perspective," he states that: "Contrary to widespread accounts, there is no material to show that the term Yoruba was originally used by the Hausa to describe Yorubas derogatorily."

Some of you young Igbos foolishly allow Ipob propaganda to mislead you all and you go on posting fake news all over the place. I have visited many of those Igbo secessionist platforms and all the fake histories written on Yoruba folks and other Nigerian ethnic groups that you all post here on NL are on those sites.

While it is historically TRUE that a series of Civil Wars took place in Yorubaland due to the fact that there was a power struggle in the Oyo Empire leading to other Confederate Kingdoms under Oyo Empire wanted independence from Oyo Empire (which extended from modern Nigeria to Benin Republic and Togo). It was this internal divisions that gave the opportunity for the outside enemies like the Fulanis to use treachery to strike in Ilorin in the 1830s just like they had done to the Hausas, Nupes, Kanuris and others starting from 1804 when their fake Jihad started.

It was the eternal vigilance of the Ibadan Army led by General (Balogun) Oderinlo [who was one of the practicing Muslims who wete military commanders and Ibadan soldiers] including Osogbo soldiers and military commanders that led the resounding defeat of the combined Fulani (some Hausa and Yoruba Muslim) Jihadists at the famous battle of Osogbo in 1840. The Ibadan Army also defeated another Fulani raid into Yorubaland at Otun in Ekitiland and the Fulanis NEVER dared to invade the interior of Yorubaland again. The Fulanis suffered other defeats in the hands of combined forces of the Yorubas thereby leading them to flee from the environs of Ilorin right across the River Niger into parts of the current Niger State where the gallant Yoruba soldiers pursued them to. Unknown to many of you, as of the time the British Colonialists forces got to Ilorin in the 1890s, Ilorin was effectively 100 percent in the hands of Balogun Alanamu and his high ranking Yoruba generals but they chose to fight the British and as punishment, they got deported from Ilorin ONLY for the stupid British people to now mistakely bring a foreign who was NOT a indigenous Yoruba man as the Amir. This person was of Gambari descent (Hausa descent). Later the British agreed that Ilorin is indeed a Yoruba town and restated that a referendum should be done so that a Yoruba Oba can be installed for the Yorubas of Ilorin as of the time the 1960 independence was approaching.

In order to transform from an Oyo Kingdom into and Oyo Empire (just like the Ashanti Empire, Benin Empire or the much larger British Empire) you have to militarily conquer others Kingdoms, towns and communities and incorporate them into your territory and that's how the Oyo Empire came to be from modern Nigeria to Togo.

I can't read this long article, Yoruba fought no wars the ones they fought was between themselves which is costumary of every ethnic group attacking pretty weak tribes or clans around them to unify them as one people, Fulanis still have illorin today as a conquered land , and their is no such thing as Yoruba meaning OYO OBA

Mrfeel:
When will you take back illorin that was conquered by the Fulanis? Plus when will you drop this Fulani name called Yoruba?

Your brain must be leaking, so if is Fulani that named Yoruba? You need new brain.

Mrfeel:
I'm saying yoruba's are the only people who crawl on their bellys to greet their fellow men , there is no such culture in igboland

To hell with you and your culture, who give a fvck about your useless culture? Yoruba are not complaining, what's your headache.

masseratti:
This is the problem I have with people who are literate but act ignorant in the name of religion...even calendars in Saudi Arabia has the date of the start of Ramadan stated already...the calculation on sighting of the moon in any region of the world is 100% correct..no Muslim need anyone to tell him or her when to start fasting..nor did the Quran say someone has to see the moon and tell you when to fast ..the Sultan has no authority on that, technology has taken over that..heck Bashir we have satellites up there and man has been to the moon.. knows it's velocity, knows it's trajectory, Islam and the Arab world were the leaders in astronomy but wahabiss type of Islam killed it because someone want to claim know it all in Islam..also when i was young northern Muslim starting day of Ramadan or ileya was a day different.. didn't know how it got to be same day..even kanuri don't follow sultan announcements.

Very illuminating.

The Kanuris have practiced Islam for over 1000 years while the Yorubas have had Islam for over 500 years with the FIRST EVER mosques built in Iwoland in the current Osun State in the 1600s. All these were long ago (even before the birth of the direct great grandparents of that Fulani guy called Uthman DanFodio who was born in Niger Republic).

The entire Fulani population randomly scattered in 15 Sahelian regions of countries in West Africa are around 25 million (the population could even be less because some of the same Fulani or Fula people move around claiming different countries), while the indigenous Hausas of Nigeria and Niger Republic are around 80 million.

The Yorubas who are indigenous to Nigeria, Benin Republic and Republic of Togo with others spread worldwide in major population centers are over 70 million, so, how can any Fulani Muslim leader who comes from a people with a smaller ethnic population than Yorubas and Hausas be dictating to others on social or religious matters? That's irresponsible feudalism, it's shameful and makes absolutely NO sense at all.

Indeed, technology has become so advanced that global weather forecasts have become accurate or near-accurate. So, the pathways of the celestial bodies such as the sun, the moon, etc, can EASILY be mathematicalky calculated with advanced computers.

Honor10:
To hell with you and your culture, who give a fvck about your useless culture? Yoruba are not complaining, what's your headache.

I would have not bothered to comment on this thread until I saw igbo been mentioned as usual , anytime yoruba's have a problem with their northern masters they try to bring igbo into the conversation just to shield themselves from the north

Mrfeel:
If you read your Bible currently you will know the men Abraham prostrated to were Angels , and saul was prostrating to Samuels spirit long after he had died

I won't allow U hide behind one finger today.
I will embarrass you with evidence.

Prostate is not worship.

1 Samuel 24.8
Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, “My lord the king!” When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground.

1 Samuel 25.23
When Abigail saw David, she quickly got off her donkey and bowed down before David with her face to the ground.

Ruth 2.10
At this, Ruth bowed down with her face to the ground. She asked Boaz, “Why have I found such favor in your eyes that you notice me—a foreigner?”


More on foreign cultures that show respect by prostrating.....

This mumu think they are worshipping.

Just imagine the ignorance. Sorry but I can confidently say your tribe is in no shape or form better than any of the culture/nation I posted here in whatever capacity.

Pikin wey them no train for house, them go use am send message back home.
That's how U guys disgrace your tribe in public.

Mrfeel:
I can't read this long article, Yoruba fought no wars the ones they fought was between themselves which is costumary of every ethnic group attacking pretty weak tribes or clans around them to unify them as one people, Fulanis still have illorin today as a conquered land , and their is no such thing as Yoruba meaning OYO OBA

This guy is a waste of space. No need arguing with U.

Read oshogbo war of 1840
The invasion of Lagos in 1851
The British- Ijebu war of 1892
The battle of Atakpame in 1764...... where the Oyo kingdom fought and defeated the Ashante kingdom marking Atakpame in modern day Togo the eastern border of the Oyo kingdom.

I won't denigrate your tribe here because it's obvious U are a foolish person and your behaviour doesn't represent your people.

SIRTee15:
I won't allow U hide behind one finger today.
I will embarrass you with evidence.

Prostate is not worship.

1 Samuel 24.8
Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, “My lord the king!” When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground.

1 Samuel 25.23
When Abigail saw David, she quickly got off her donkey and bowed down before David with her face to the ground.

Ruth 2.10
At this, Ruth bowed down with her face to the ground. She asked Boaz, “Why have I found such favor in your eyes that you notice me—a foreigner?”


More on foreign cultures that show respect by prostrating.....

This mumu think they are worshipping.

Just imagine the ignorance. Sorry but I can confidently say your tribe is in no shape or form better than any of the culture/nation I posted here in whatever capacity.

Pikin wey them no train for house, them go use am send message back home.
That's how U guys disgrace your tribe in public.

Whatever you just posted here portray people in deep surrender to higher power which is worship, you said David called Saul my lord my king is that not higher power?

Wasn't Abigail bowing to David in total surrender and worship too, everyone of them prostrated to higher power

I repeat that's a pathetic slave masters culture you are trying to defend, we igbos have no such culture

SIRTee15:
This guy is a waste of space. No need arguing with U.

Read oshogbo war of 1840
The invasion of Lagos in 1851
The British- Ijebu war of 1892
The battle of Atakpame in 1764...... where the Oyo kingdom fought and defeated the Ashante kingdom marking Atakpame in modern day Togo the eastern border of the Oyo kingdom.

I won't denigrate your tribe here because it's obvious U are a foolish person and your behaviour doesn't represent your people.

My friend like I said it is costumary of every ethnic group, kingdom and empires to fight those primitive wars , there is no major ethnic group that has not fought those wars , that's not war to me

We fought a modern war ,in the Era were weapons of mass destructions were used

kokoA:
Black men dey drag wetin foreigners bring come like say dem dey give award for who know pass.

I just weak

Mrfeel:
My friend like I said it is costumary of every ethnic group, kingdom and empires to fight those primitive wars , there is no major ethnic group that has not fought those wars , that's not war to me

We fought a modern war ,in the Era were weapons of mass destructions were used

none of the wars is within Yoruba clans. They are all wars against foreign enemies.
Yoruba has not been attacked in modern times, so I dont see the reason bringing up modern warfare.

Yorubas fought as Nigerians and biafrans in the civil war, and other foreign missions where they performed gallantly.
Adekunle led the Nigerian army against capitulation of Port Harcourt during the biafran war- he recaptured the whole of south south region from biafra.
Ademelegun, Victor Banjo and Captain Adeleke fought for biafra and were instrumental to the capture of midwest despite meagre resources from the biafran armoury.

Besides war in this modern time is a waste of time. u are not fighting for any territory, u are fighting for useless politicians and big financial intuitions. At the end, they will settle the matter with cup of tea on a round table while u die for nothing
If in doubt, Ask Ukrainians.

Mrfeel:
Whatever you just posted here portray people in deep surrender to higher power which is worship, you said David called Saul my lord my king is that not higher power?

Wasn't Abigail bowing to David in total surrender and worship too, everyone of them prostrated to higher power

I repeat that's a pathetic slave masters culture you are trying to defend, we igbos have no such culture

Then stop following the bible either as a Jew or Christian. rejecting what's inside but calling yourself a bible believer makes u a fool.
simple.

Yoruba understand the concept just as it is in the bible. prostration is not worship.

SIRTee15:
none of the wars is within Yoruba clans. They are all wars against foreign enemies.
Yoruba has not been attacked in modern times, so I dont see the reason bringing up modern warfare.

Yorubas fought as Nigerians and biafrans in the civil war, and other foreign missions where they performed gallantly.
Adekunle led the Nigerian army against capitulation of Port Harcourt during the biafran war- he recaptured the whole of south south region from biafra.
Ademelegun, Victor Banjo and Captain Adeleke fought for biafra and were instrumental to the capture of midwest despite meagre resources from the biafran armoury.

Besides war in this modern time is a waste of time. u are not fighting for any territory, u are fighting for useless politicians and big financial intuitions. At the end, they will settle the matter with cup of tea on a round table while u die for nothing
If in doubt, Ask Ukrainians.

Yoruba's fought alot of internal wars during the primitive Era, afon-ja who joined the Fulanis to fight his own people is one of them which illorin is lost to the Fulanis forever


We fought the entire Nigeria made up of Yoruba Hausa Fulani, plus other minorities,, people from Niger republic Chad, supported by British, Soviet union etc

Adekunle led a battalion of 40 thousand troops, those troops made up of middle belt and northerners not yoruba , majority of the soldiers who died by the hands of adekunle were his own soldiers, he will usually stand behind to shoot at any of his soldiers who tried to retreat, adekunle who sent about 6 thousand troops into Owerri and lost them all only a handful returned alive


The invasion of biafra was a peaceful one cause majority of the Midwest soldiers were Midwest igbos who assured ojukwu that they will be no resistance whatsoever, banjo was ordered to reach dodan Baracks where Gowon was living in Lagos and capture it, he stayed in Midwest for a whole week on a mission that was suppose to end in 24 hours, he rather made contact with the enemy and was negotiating for Gowon to hand over power to him ,

SIRTee15:
Then stop following the bible either as a Jew or Christian. rejecting what's inside but calling yourself a bible believer makes u a fool.
simple.

Yoruba understand the concept just as it is in the bible. prostration is not worship.

I didn't tell you I was a bible believer, besides the bible is just a culture of people who's culture became more popular than others nothing special

Mrfeel:
I didn't tell you I was a bible believer, besides the bible is just a culture of people who's culture became more popular than others nothing special

Good. I believe u have received sound quality education today.
cultures are different, thus denigration of other people's culture is only done by fools.
Thank me for that and learn not to repeat such mistakes again.

That was how America wasted thousands of young lives and billion dollars trying to impose democracy and freedom on people whose cultures are different.

Mrfeel:
Yoruba's fought alot of internal wars during the primitive Era, afon-ja who joined the Fulanis to fight his own people is one of them which illorin is lost to the Fulanis forever


We fought the entire Nigeria made up of Yoruba Hausa Fulani, plus other minorities,, people from Niger republic Chad, supported by British, Soviet union etc

Adekunle led a battalion of 40 thousand troops, those troops made up of middle belt and northerners not yoruba , majority of the soldiers who died by the hands of adekunle were his own soldiers, he will usually stand behind to shoot at any of his soldiers who tried to retreat, adekunle who sent about 6 thousand troops into Owerri and lost them all only a handful returned alive


The invasion of biafra was a peaceful one cause majority of the Midwest soldiers were Midwest igbos who assured ojukwu that they will be no resistance whatsoever, banjo was ordered to reach dodan Baracks where Gowon was living in Lagos and capture it, he stayed in Midwest for a whole week on a mission that was suppose to end in 24 hours, he rather made contact with the enemy and was negotiating for Gowon to hand over power to him ,

sorry, I dont deal with conspiracy theory junks.
Take care of yourself.

SIRTee15:
sorry, I dont deal with conspiracy theory junks.
Take care of yourself.

You will call it conspiracy theories cause it doesn't favour you

SIRTee15:
Good. I believe u have received sound quality education today.
cultures are different, thus denigration of other people's culture is only done by fools.
Thank me for that and learn not to repeat such mistakes again.

That was how America wasted thousands of young lives and billion dollars trying to impose democracy and freedom on people whose cultures are different.

I'm glad you just called yourself a fool for denigrating igbo culture knowing fully well our culture is different from yours, don't repeat that again, yoruba's should learn to confront the north without bringing igbos into the conversation just to shield themselves, I won't comment on such thread if I didn't see igbo mentioned, but yoruba's mentioned igbos just to change the topic

Ayodele keeps proving his ignorance.......even if your father built the whole masjeeds in the world, you still have no right to discuss Islam.

Mrfeel:
I can't read this long article, Yoruba fought no wars the ones they fought was between themselves which is costumary of every ethnic group attacking pretty weak tribes or clans around them to unify them as one people, Fulanis still have illorin today as a conquered land , and their is no such thing as Yoruba meaning OYO OBA

I'm a veteran of advanced world history since the early 1980s with a large body of historical materials in my archives and home library. So, you are communicating with a man who is very vast in history and geopolitical relations here. You are deliberately fabricating and spreading highly volatile disinformation about the Yorubas who are over 70 million worldwide (which is clearly a VIOLATION of several rules of Nairaland) and you are deliberately DEFLECTING when FACTS have been pointed out to you with several CLEAR sources of books and evidence such as the globally and historically known heavy DEFEAT of the Fulani jihadists (and a few of their Ilorin-Yoruba Muslim collaborators) at the famous Battle of Osogbo in 1840 and at Odo-Otin by the gallant Ibadan Army led by Aare Latoosa, General Oderinlo (who were both practicing Muslims) and other top war commanders from Ibadan with allies from the Osogbo Army using modern weapons got from Europe via Eko Island (Lagos Island) and Ijebuland such as the Shneider guns and more. There are many Weblinks online to easily read about these.

Ilorin is NOT a conquered land. More than 90 percent of Ilorin is of Yoruba lineages and the lingua franca in that capital city is pure Yoruba language. Even the Amir speaks Yoruba language in his daily activities. Before the British Colonialists left Nigeria in 1960, they agreed that it was necessary to have an Oba in Ilorin for the indigenous Yoruba population after a referendum gets concluded. All these are in the archives. The Justice Ekundayo Panel of 1978 also reaffirmed what the British Colonialists said about having an Oba of Ilorin with Chieftaincy upgrades as well.

My convo will end right here.

LegendHero:
Bashir Ahmad no too wise. The guy no understand wetin he dey talk.

Technology is so advance that astronomers can predict when (date) the moon will appear. They already know the moon will appear and that Ramadan will start by March 1st even in Gulf countries.

Just that people will only start when they use their eyes like this korokoro to see the moon. But you can know with 98% certainty when it will show.

Well said. Technology has also made it possible for accurate or near-accurate weather forecasts to be made in realtime as well using advanced satellite imaging systems and super computers.

Mrfeel:
I repeat yoruba's fought no wars the only wars yoruba's fought was between themselves, they were terribly beating by minority Fulanis ,betrayed by their own son afon-ja the Alaafin of oyo cursed his own people before commiting suicide shamefully

If not for lord luggard the Fulanis could have succeeded in their jihad to conquered Yorubaland till they deep the Quran in the sea

Fulanis that we used to do suya in offa and osogbo on several occasions and beat them to submission. Mumu, I don't have time for any troll. Werey dey hear Oyo empire and he thinks someone somewhere can build an empire without wars. See the kind of idiiot I'm conversing with?

Mrfeel:
I would have not bothered to comment on this thread until I saw igbo been mentioned as usual , anytime yoruba's have a problem with their northern masters they try to bring igbo into the conversation just to shield themselves from the north

Go fvck yourself! As long as the slave is ruling over you since 1999, I am okay. No ibo man will rule Nigeria in your life time, write it down.

AbuTwins:
If my chief imam is not among may you never end this year well.

Eru èṣù oniro!

Eru-iku allahu, is your chief imam not among the league of alfas and imams in Yoruba land anymore?

For denying and disassociating your chief imam from the league of alfas and imams in Yoruba, evil shall never cease in your home, sane Nigerians will mourn over you and your family as you'll be blo0dy crush to death untimely, before the end of this month of February, agent of death shall visit your family, it shall never be well with you and your family, you will not know peace as from this moment, So shall it be In Jesus Christ name, AMEN

Honor10:
Go fvck yourself! As long as the slave is ruling over you since 1999, I am okay. No ibo man will rule Nigeria in your life time, write it down.

The slave ruling over you doesn't feed me, igbo president won't feed me, the rate of poverty in the regions of those slaves is higher than the poverty in igboland, we igbos are self made people, nobody helped us after the war but here we are today we are doing fine like we never experienced genocide war against us by the entire country