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Discountsempai:
It had nothing to do with Onan spilling his seed, and the verse in question had nothing to do with masturbation (and no, I am not excusing masturbation...especially as I have never engaged in it, because quite frankly it does not make sense).

Onan was supposed to marry his late brother's wife, and under the customs of that time, the first child he had with his wife would be counted as his brother's child (strange to us, but in a society with high child mortality, and a concern over keeping lineages alive...).

Onan refused to do that because (as the verses imply)...he hated his brother Er. So, out of bitterness, he denied Er THE RIGHT TO KEEP his lineage alive.

Essentially, what Onan also was doing was

1. Denying Tamar the right to have a child...in a society where barreness was a BIG STIGMA. (See how Jacob, Onan's grandpa, wife Rachel felt about having no kids...and later on Hannah. And even Sarah, Onan's great-great grandmother).

2. Essentially telling his father that he wanted both his and Er's inheritance...ie greed. If he had done what he was supposed to do, then when Judah died, his (Onan's) firstborn son would have gotten Er's portion of the inheritance. By having no kids, he gets a dobule portion.

3. Essentially commiting an injustice to his late brother and dishonoring his memory.

Thus..as the bible put it in Genesis 38 vs 8-10

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also

So, nothing to do with seed or with masturbation as the OP thinks it does.

At its base it is a story about how harmful greed and resentment can be. And how wickedness also can provoke resentment (Er is described as a wicked man, so it is obvious that he was wicked to his two younger brothers, breeding anger and resentment).

judewrites:
Yes, that's exactly what I stated.

God killed Onan for his disobedience in pouring out his semen on the floor rather than impregnating Tamar.

So therefore, the semen must have life significance in God's view.

Seunomobo:
So if I'm married and I don't want to get pregnant yet, where hubby go pour the semen?
Since pouring the semen on any surface is considered Unclean.....

Chai

12345baba:
it had nothing to do with all the sexual blabla u quoted.its justed disobedience, back then God dey strike person for just lying

SeeWahala:
Don't mind the Islamic Abubakar, he has tried reading the bible severally but can never muster up enough understanding to interpret its teachings

Too much 'knacking head on the ground' tinz

AbuTwins:
Abeg which kind custom is that for a brother to sleep with his brother's widow to produce offspring for him even if he doesn't want to?

Na by force?

And it's not only Onan! The father later slept with the same woman pretending as an harlot and she got pregnant. He wanted to punish her untill he realised he was the culprit.

God punished the sinful first son with death!
God punished the second with death!
The father committed adultery and incest but was forgiven!

How is such fair?

Onyiiobi7735:
Lies! God'Grace would be over soon and then His Undiluted Wrath would be poured out in full measure on the earth after the Rapture.

AbuTwins:
Abeg which kind custom is that for a brother to sleep with his brother's widow to produce offspring for him even if he doesn't want to?

Na by force?

And it's not only Onan! The father later slept with the same woman pretending as an harlot and she got pregnant. He wanted to punish her untill he realised he was the culprit.

God punished the sinful first son with death!
God punished the second with death!
The father committed adultery and incest but was forgiven!

How is such fair?

judewrites:
📖 Genesis 38
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⁸ And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
⁹ And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
¹⁰ And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.


In the Old Testament God gave His people some laws concerning the discharge of semen from a man. (Leviticus 15:16-18)

According to these laws:

👉Anytime a man discharges his semen outside procreation (with his wife) he is considered unclean.

👉Any type of surface a man's semen falls upon is considered unclean.

👉When a man is in the process of procreation (with his wife) and he discharges his semen externally, both of them are unclean.

From these laws, we can see how sacred/sacrosanct man's semen is to God.

God ordained that man's semen should be utilized in procreation (with His wife) and not discharged carelessly/anyhow like in the case of Onan.

God killed Onan because he in outright disobedience, desecrated his semen by pouring it out on the floor instead of procreating with Tamar. (As custom then allowed it to raise children to represent his dead brother)

The major purpose of a man's semen is for procreation; to produce children on earth:

📖 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed.
— Psalms 112:2

The semen of man is full of supernatural creative energy from God. It can create life therefore it is highly valuable in the spiritual realm.

This is why the more a man practices semen retention, (with bible reading/prayer) the more supernaturally creative he becomes like God Himself. (Hebrews 11:3)

The devil and his cohorts also seek semen to create life/exercise power in the demonic realms.

In God's perspective, a man's semen is LIFE and can create LIFE; therefore it shouldn't be treated with levity like it's done today with many through masturbation, MouthAction, homosexuality, fornication, etc

Unfortunately, the free availability of pornography/prostitution has misled much men in freely desecrating their semen attracting the wrath of God:

📖 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men...
— Romans 1:18

We are under the dispensation of grace by the blood🩸of Jesus, that's why God's wrath hasn't been fully manifested yet.

But grace period will be over soon.

Discountsempai:
It had nothing to do with Onan spilling his seed, and the verse in question had nothing to do with masturbation (and no, I am not excusing masturbation...especially as I have never engaged in it, because quite frankly it does not make sense).

Onan was supposed to marry his late brother's wife, and under the customs of that time, the first child he had with his wife would be counted as his brother's child (strange to us, but in a society with high child mortality, and a concern over keeping lineages alive...).

Onan refused to do that because (as the verses imply)...he hated his brother Er. So, out of bitterness, he denied Er THE RIGHT TO KEEP his lineage alive.

Essentially, what Onan also was doing was

1. Denying Tamar the right to have a child...in a society where barreness was a BIG STIGMA. (See how Jacob, Onan's grandpa, wife Rachel felt about having no kids...and later on Hannah. And even Sarah, Onan's great-great grandmother).

2. Essentially telling his father that he wanted both his and Er's inheritance...ie greed. If he had done what he was supposed to do, then when Judah died, his (Onan's) firstborn son would have gotten Er's portion of the inheritance. By having no kids, he gets a dobule portion.

3. Essentially commiting an injustice to his late brother and dishonoring his memory.

Thus..as the bible put it in Genesis 38 vs 8-10

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also

So, nothing to do with seed or with masturbation as the OP thinks it does.

At its base it is a story about how harmful greed and resentment can be. And how wickedness also can provoke resentment (Er is described as a wicked man, so it is obvious that he was wicked to his two younger brothers, breeding anger and resentment).

tctrills:
God did not reveal the reason he slew Onan. And we are warned not to add or subtract from his word. You can't just make up a reason for God.

judewrites:
There was a man called uzziah in the bible. God killed him when he tried to hold the ark of covenant when it was about to fall.

Why did God kill him? He wasn't a priest.

Why did God kill Onan? Because he willfully disobeyed in pouring out his seed on the floor.

God judged Oman for his selfish actions, but it therefore means that a man's semen has a lot of spiritual significance.

plessis:
If he did not want us to waste the seed, Why did he curse men with konji?

You and your God should go and sit down.

AbuTwins:
Abeg which kind custom is that for a brother to sleep with his brother's widow to produce offspring for him even if he doesn't want to?

Na by force?

And it's not only Onan! The father later slept with the same woman pretending as an harlot and she got pregnant. He wanted to punish her untill he realised he was the culprit.


God punished the sinful first son with death!
God punished the second with death!
The father committed adultery and incest but was forgiven!

How is such fair?

smokinloud:
You're mixing things up, there's no law at this time and God deal with humans according to their conscience

This is why the more a man practices semen retention, (with bible reading/prayer) the more supernaturally creative he becomes like God Himself. (Hebrews 11:3)

gohf:
What are you even writing about, have you ever read the Bible before?

Or you are making things up again from your imagination?

GOVERNORR:
God did not slay anyone..

Inspired humans wrote the best selling books and a few greedy other humans in power converted it to a tool to enslave mankind and deprive people of freedom

Anyone who exhibit emotions like anger is human so therefore saying God Slayed man is saying God was angered and like most humans couldn't control the nature

God can never be man who has emotions.
Probably you should read the Bible as a book of wisdom instead of a book of religion

JuanDeDios:
Because Judah did NOT commit incest or adultery. Neither Judah nor Tamar was married at the time, so no adultery was committed.

Judah and Tamar were not related by blood, so no incest was committed.

Note that inheriting a dead relative's wife to raise kids for him or for yourself is a common traditional practice around the world.

Discountsempai:
It had nothing to do with Onan spilling his seed, and the verse in question had nothing to do with masturbation (and no, I am not excusing masturbation...especially as I have never engaged in it, because quite frankly it does not make sense).

Onan was supposed to marry his late brother's wife, and under the customs of that time, the first child he had with his wife would be counted as his brother's child (strange to us, but in a society with high child mortality, and a concern over keeping lineages alive...).

Onan refused to do that because (as the verses imply)...he hated his brother Er. So, out of bitterness, he denied Er THE RIGHT TO KEEP his lineage alive.

Essentially, what Onan also was doing was

1. Denying Tamar the right to have a child...in a society where barreness was a BIG STIGMA. (See how Jacob, Onan's grandpa, wife Rachel felt about having no kids...and later on Hannah. And even Sarah, Onan's great-great grandmother).

2. Essentially telling his father that he wanted both his and Er's inheritance...ie greed. If he had done what he was supposed to do, then when Judah died, his (Onan's) firstborn son would have gotten Er's portion of the inheritance. By having no kids, he gets a dobule portion.

3. Essentially commiting an injustice to his late brother and dishonoring his memory.

Thus..as the bible put it in Genesis 38 vs 8-10

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also

So, nothing to do with seed or with masturbation as the OP thinks it does.

At its base it is a story about how harmful greed and resentment can be. And how wickedness also can provoke resentment (Er is described as a wicked man, so it is obvious that he was wicked to his two younger brothers, breeding anger and resentment).

AbuTwins:
Of course he most likely won't. But why didn't Judah remarry after his wife died and he still had the urge? And why did he forget Tamar in her father's house afraid his last son would die?

Osanoghodua1:
This is nothing but heresies, you're preaching another gospel, this will mean a man who constantly have sex with his wife is less powerful than one who stays away from sex from his wife. During fasting and prayers, you can both agree to abstain from sex for a while so the devil doesn't tempt you both, if after breaking the fast, you have the urge to sleep with your wife, fee free to do so as it doesn't affect alignment. Ensure you stay full of God, it's the most important.

God killed him not basically he spilled the semen on the ground but because of the intent of his heart, his wicked heart killed him, he wasn't willing to raise seeds for his late brother, this was why he was killed. He proposed wickedness in his Heart.

judewrites:
📖 Genesis 38
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
⁸ And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
⁹ And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
¹⁰ And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.


In the Old Testament God gave His people some laws concerning the discharge of semen from a man. (Leviticus 15:16-18)

According to these laws:

👉Anytime a man discharges his semen outside procreation (with his wife) he is considered unclean.

👉Any type of surface a man's semen falls upon is considered unclean.

👉When a man is in the process of procreation (with his wife) and he discharges his semen externally, both of them are unclean.

From these laws, we can see how sacred/sacrosanct man's semen is to God.

God ordained that man's semen should be utilized in procreation (with His wife) and not discharged carelessly/anyhow like in the case of Onan.

God killed Onan because he in outright disobedience, desecrated his semen by pouring it out on the floor instead of procreating with Tamar. (As custom then allowed it to raise children to represent his dead brother)

The major purpose of a man's semen is for procreation; to produce children on earth:

📖 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed.
— Psalms 112:2

The semen of man is full of supernatural creative energy from God. It can create life therefore it is highly valuable in the spiritual realm.

This is why the more a man practices semen retention, (with bible reading/prayer) the more supernaturally creative he becomes like God Himself. (Hebrews 11:3)

The devil and his cohorts also seek semen to create life/exercise power in the demonic realms.

In God's perspective, a man's semen is LIFE and can create LIFE; therefore it shouldn't be treated with levity like it's done today with many through masturbation, MouthAction, homosexuality, fornication, etc

Unfortunately, the free availability of pornography/prostitution has misled much men in freely desecrating their semen attracting the wrath of God:

📖 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men...
— Romans 1:18

We are under the dispensation of grace by the blood🩸of Jesus, that's why God's wrath hasn't been fully manifested yet.

But grace period will be over soon.

Shedrack777:
who's being delivered? Tinubu or his supporters?

doffman:
Certified pagan , you will cry tire 🤣

Pagan , why are you pain nah .

Am I the one that finish your life ahaa

gohf:
What are you even writing about, have you ever read the Bible before?

Or you are making things up again from your imagination?

AntilsIam:
BLACK STONE WORSHIPPER and LICKER, CONDEMNED SLAVE, you never tell me why you emulated Hindu paganism in your religion

judewrites:
📖 Genesis 38
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
⁸ And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
⁹ And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
¹⁰ And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.


In the Old Testament God gave His people some laws concerning the discharge of semen from a man. (Leviticus 15:16-18)

According to these laws:

👉Anytime a man discharges his semen outside procreation (with his wife) he is considered unclean.

👉Any type of surface a man's semen falls upon is considered unclean.

👉When a man is in the process of procreation (with his wife) and he discharges his semen externally, both of them are unclean.

From these laws, we can see how sacred/sacrosanct man's semen is to God.

God ordained that man's semen should be utilized in procreation (with His wife) and not discharged carelessly/anyhow like in the case of Onan.

God killed Onan because he in outright disobedience, desecrated his semen by pouring it out on the floor instead of procreating with Tamar. (As custom then allowed it to raise children to represent his dead brother)

The major purpose of a man's semen is for procreation; to produce children on earth:

📖 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed.
— Psalms 112:2

The semen of man is full of supernatural creative energy from God. It can create life therefore it is highly valuable in the spiritual realm.

This is why the more a man practices semen retention, (with bible reading/prayer) the more supernaturally creative he becomes like God Himself. (Hebrews 11:3)

The devil and his cohorts also seek semen to create life/exercise power in the demonic realms.

In God's perspective, a man's semen is LIFE and can create LIFE; therefore it shouldn't be treated with levity like it's done today with many through masturbation, MouthAction, homosexuality, fornication, etc

Unfortunately, the free availability of pornography/prostitution has misled much men in freely desecrating their semen attracting the wrath of God:

📖 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men...
— Romans 1:18

We are under the dispensation of grace by the blood🩸of Jesus, that's why God's wrath hasn't been fully manifested yet.

But grace period will be over soon.

donbenie:
Because he is homicidal,power drunk and petty..

Imagine a supposed being so powerful that he created this vast Universe,being driven to a murderous rage by where you decides to pour your seeds..

Brainwashed To0ls.