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Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 9:42am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Whatever you think my guy you're not the only one reading! wink
It's not what I think, it's what you wrote.
Ho back and read. It seems you often forget what you write. Are you getting old?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:43am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
I know ceremonies that had less then 70 people. Do you know how many people witnessed Jesus Christ's own?
Again I know people who married in secret. Was their ceremony null and void?
Only Jesus' disciples witnessed his departure that's why they have to preach to convince others that their friend (Jesus) has risen from the dead and returned to heaven otherwise they don't need to preach about his resurrection nah! cheesy

And people who marry in secret can't call it a CEREMONY! cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:44am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
I snapped so not to misquote. I did not even quote, I sent you your teaching word for word.
Ask Jehovah's Witnesses to tell you what that publication means if you don't understand! wink
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:45am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
It's not what I think, it's what you wrote.
Ho back and read. It seems you often forget what you write. Are you getting old?
Don't mix words pick one at a time or do whatever you wish! wink
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 9:46am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Only Jesus' disciples witnessed his departure that's why they have to preach to convince others that their friend (Jesus) has risen from the dead and returned to heaven otherwise they don't need to preach about his resurrection nah! cheesy

And people who marry in secret can't call it a CEREMONY! cheesy
People who marry in secret can't call it a ceremony. Should we take this as JW doctrine or your opinion, or is this from your dictionary.

So to JW, a ceremony is an event witnessed by your friends and enemies. Am I quoting you right on this one?
Please tell me sir.
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:48am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
People who marry in secret can't call it a ceremony. Should we take this as JW doctrine or your opinion, or is this from your dictionary.

So to JW, a ceremony is an event witnessed by your friends and enemies. Am I quoting you right on this one?
Please tell me sir.
Secret marriage is not a CEREMONY o! cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 9:51am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Don't mix words pick one at a time or do whatever you wish! wink
Oga, you said gave the eunuch and pentecost as examples of Christ ruling from Jerusalem.
Below are your very words
What about the Ethiopian eunuch? 2Kings 19:9 compare to Act 8:27

My guy that has been FULFILLED!


You also say the promise was fulfilled when Jesus walked the earth

And yesterday you said it was the prophecies of the last days.
Your words not mine.
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 9:51am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Secret marriage is not a CEREMONY o! cheesy
Again, is it the JW doctrine that ceremonies are not done in secret?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 10:01am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Don't mix words pick one at a time or do whatever you wish! wink
I asked you,
You are still not making any sense. What point are you trying to make here sir.
When did this Judgement you are speaking about begin?

Your Answer

When did Jesus first walk the earth?

Guy, whoever speaks against the WORKS of God's Holy Spirit through Jesus' ministry has already as in ALREADY been judged! Matthew 12:31-32 compare to John 3:17-19 wink



Then at another time you wrote in response to Isaiah 2. 3 for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

What about the Ethiopian eunuch? 2Kings 19:9 compare to Act 8:27

My guy that has been FULFILLED!


And all through yesterday, you claim this was a prophecy for the last days. My question is, When do the last days begin and when will they end? I don't think 3000 years of history is your idea of the last days
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:16am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
Oga, you said gave the eunuch and pentecost as examples of Christ ruling from Jerusalem.
Below are your very words
What about the Ethiopian eunuch? 2Kings 19:9 compare to Act 8:27

My guy that has been FULFILLED!


You also say the promise was fulfilled when Jesus walked the earth

And yesterday you said it was the prophecies of the last days.
Your words not mine.
Zechariah 14:19 says something which you quoted that's why i cited scriptures to prove that it has been fulfilled! smiley
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:17am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
Again, is it the JW doctrine that ceremonies are not done in secret?
Ọmọ stick to the topic of discussion.

Jesus is the Archangel Michael! smiley
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:18am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
My question is, When do the last days begin and when will they end? I don't think 3000 years of history is your idea of the last days
Go and study your Bible or attend theology school for that! wink
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 10:31am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Go and study your Bible or attend theology school for that! wink
Lol, your solution is theology school? have I been quoting from your social studies text book?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:32am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
Lol, your solution is theology school? have I been quoting from your social studies text book?
You asked a scriptural question which is not my duty to TEACH you so if you don't know when the last days begin go and study your Bible, your conclusion is none of my business! smiley
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 10:34am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ stick to the topic of discussion.

Jesus is the Archangel Michael! smiley
See this child oh. I remember asking you to stick to the topic when you brought up Isaiah 2.-4. Now you found no escape there and you want to run back to the original topic? Ok, post the bible verse that says Jesus Christ is Angel Michael or do we keep arguing based on your guesswork?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 10:37am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Zechariah 14:19 says something which you quoted that's why i cited scriptures to prove that it has been fulfilled! smiley
let's read Zechariah 14 to see what has been fulfilled.
from verse 16
And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

You say this was fulfilled when?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 10:39am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You asked a scriptural question which is not my duty to TEACH you so if you don't know when the last days begin go and study your Bible, your conclusion is none of my business! smiley
Ok, So it's no longer your duty to respond to my questions. Or is it that you are afraid of your answer? It takes me 3 posts to make your answer look stupid.
If your answers can't hold water for 30 mins what does that say about your religion?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:58am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
See this child oh. I remember asking you to stick to the topic when you brought up Isaiah 2.-4. Now you found no escape there and you want to run back to the original topic? Ok, post the bible verse that says Jesus Christ is Angel Michael or do we keep arguing based on your guesswork?
Can you quote a Bible verse that says Jesus is not angel Michael? smiley
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:59am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
let's read Zechariah 14 to see what has been fulfilled.
from verse 16
And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

You say this was fulfilled when?
Ọmọ these are prophecies fulfilling one after the other nah! cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:01am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
Ok, So it's no longer your duty to respond to my questions. Or is it that you are afraid of your answer? It takes me 3 posts to make your answer look stupid.
If your answers can't hold water for 30 mins what does that say about your religion?
Your PERSONAL opinion after all you don't have a religion, do you? cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 11:02am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Your PERSONAL opinion after all you don't have a religion, do you? cheesy
What is religion? Apply your dictionary and ask yourself if I have a religion or not.
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:05am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
What is religion? Apply your dictionary and ask yourself if I have a religion or not.
Mention the name of your church! cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 11:06am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ these are prophecies fulfilling one after the other nah! cheesy
The book of Isaiah says these things will happen in the last days so my question is, when did the last days begin?
Let's read the verses together.
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Did the JW's last days begin 2000 years ago? Or did the prophecy begin prematurely?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:08am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
The book of Isaiah says these things will happen in the last days so my question is, when did the last days begin?
Let's read the verses together.
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Did the JW's last days begin 2000 years ago? Or did the prophecy begin prematurely?
If you don't know the beginning of the last days go and find out in your religion that is if you have one! wink
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 11:11am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote a Bible verse that says Jesus is not angel Michael? smiley
Can you quote a bible verse that says Jesus is not Angel Gabriel? That's a foolish question. Can you quote a bible verse that says Jesus Christ is not Trump?
You are the one making the claims and you are the one to defend it. that's how it works.
If I say, Jesus Christ is God and you ask me to quote, I will happily defend my position. I will not ask you to quote a verse that says Jesus Christ is not God.
Honestly, what are you afraid of?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 11:11am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If you don't know the beginning of the last days go and find out in your religion that is if you have one! wink
Your last day began 3000 years ago. loooool
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 11:12am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Mention the name of your church! cheesy
Why?
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:14am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
Can you quote a bible verse that says Jesus is not Angel Gabriel? That's a foolish question. Can you quote a bible verse that says Jesus Christ is not Trump?
You are the one making the claims and you are the one to defend it. that's how it works.
If I say, Jesus Christ is God and you ask me to quote, I will happily defend my position. I will not ask you to quote a verse that says Jesus Christ is not God.
Honestly, what are you afraid of?
You asking me to show you where the Bible specifically says what i believe is a foolish question!

What everyone does is evidence not word for word that's why you don't have a church because you expect everything to be quoted word for word which is not possible. wink
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:15am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
Your last day began 3000 years ago. loooool
If you believe in the last days! cheesy
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:16am On Feb 19, 2025
tctrills:
Why?
Whatever i believe shouldn't be your problem if you don't believe in a church with unique teaching! wink
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 11:21am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Whatever i believe shouldn't be your problem if you don't believe in a church with unique teaching! wink
Stop playing dumb. But if you are not comfortable discussing no p. I don't care about your church. You bring it up not me. If you state your beliefs without mentioning your church, I will not mention it. but if you bring your church into it, I will believe that you want me to talk about it.
Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by tctrills: 11:22am On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If you believe in the last days! cheesy
very thing that has a beginning must have an end.
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