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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:09am On Feb 19, 2025
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 9:22am On Feb 19, 2025
basilico:
Ijebos and cococandy
Quickly . Decline this offer of $5000 checks from DOGE savings.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2025/02/18/musk-mulls-sending-all-americans-5000-checks-using-doge-savings/

At $4.95 for Grade A eggs with $5,000, you could buy approximately 12,120 eggs in 2025. Eat one egg per day for 33 years .
So from $8,000 it now down to $5,000.

Either way, the plan still needs Congressional approval. Besides, if the $2 trillion target isn’t met, it would be more likely that taxpayers would receive less than $2k in stimulus payments.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/musk-doge-checks-00204813
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 9:24am On Feb 19, 2025
Not saying that there is no fraud going on with SS payments. But the images provide an explanation as to why there are “150 year old” people on SS..

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
PDPGuy:
So from $8,000 it now down to $5,000.

Either way, the plan still needs Congressional approval. Besides, if the $2 trillion target isn’t met, it would be more likely that taxpayers would receive less than $2k in stimulus payments.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/musk-doge-checks-00204813
Doesn't matter how much. Everyone can eat an egg daily for 33 years,. The mportance of egg prices dropping is more than slashing funds that were meant for the Azov battalion.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by grandstar(m): 10:08am On Feb 19, 2025
basilico:
Ijebos and cococandy
Quickly . Decline this offer of $5000 checks from DOGE savings.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2025/02/18/musk-mulls-sending-all-americans-5000-checks-using-doge-savings/

At $4.95 for Grade A eggs with $5,000, you could buy approximately 12,120 eggs in 2025. Eat one egg per day for 33 years

grandstar. DOGE to the rescue.
It seems very enticing I must admit but doing so won't end well.

It would balloon the budget deficit and add lots of money to the national debt.

Let this be used to reduce the size of the budget deficit.instead.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:11am On Feb 19, 2025
PDPGuy:
Not saying that there is no fraud going on with SS payments. But the images provide an explanation as to why there are “150 year old” people on SS..
Good explanation. There should be noone more than 150 years old .
How does COBOL then have more people 390 million than the population of 340 million.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:18am On Feb 19, 2025
grandstar:
It seems very enticing I must admit but doing so won't end well.

It would balloon the budget deficit and add lots of money to the national debt.

Let this be used to reduce the size of the budget deficit.instead.
It would push the prices of everything beyond the roof.

If govt gets into giving students loans for school fees , universities definitely hike fees. You think so?

Inflation = Too much money chasing too few goods.

Zimbabwe inflation. To buy bread before introducing 100 trillion note one needed a wheelbarrow.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 10:32am On Feb 19, 2025
basilico:
I used to think highly of Russia military.
I doubt they can beat say Britain if from day one no nukes and both obey rules of war.
Britain or other western armies would by now have complete air superiority, anti aircraft radars would have been taken out, every Russian position would have been bombed out by now.
Russia has been fighting for months to take over some villages. Both armies are clearly identifiable , unlike fighting insurgents hiding within civilian positions in urban areas.
Now the question is, why are the so-called enlightened westerners still believing the nonsense being sold to them that Russia wants to take over Europe?

If that's not a certificate of being brainwashed I don't know what that is.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:39am On Feb 19, 2025
AP is whining after being locked out of the Oval office and Air Force One because they are still using Gulf of Mexico.

They have been caught lying about DOGE.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2025/02/18/nolte-disgraced-ap-caught-lying-about-doge-then-stealth-edits-fake-story/

Sooner rather than later these media houses should be banned.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 11:20am On Feb 19, 2025
raumdeuter:
The presidency where majority of Americans approve? When is you foolish prediction coming to pass?
Majority as in Mandate?
Don't be stupid, post election data showed the rapist trump doesn't have the mandate. Lowest popular vote count at 1.3%.

Now tell me otherwise, show me your data, you rot and piss maga cultist.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 11:25am On Feb 19, 2025
I would have never imagined in my bingo card, that I would trust Turkey more than the rapist trump's version of USA to protect Ukraine against killer putin, wouldn't have crossed my mind.

Now here we are. Foolish maga cultists on this board, the dumbest of the lot are not surprised the rapist trump is blaming Ukraine for Russia invading it.

Fúck them all.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Livelystone01:
Now the question is, why are the so-called enlightened westerners still believing the nonsense being sold to them that Russia wants to take over Europe?

If that's not a certificate of being brainwashed I don't know what that is.
Distraction Focus the people's energies elsewhere as you continue grabbing more power from them.The ordinary person doesn't care if Ukraine wants to join NATO. The leaders are the ones who are sending arms to test their latest weapons.
I think Russia is just an overated military force minus the nuclear bombs. Their air defence has been pierced so many times. In Syria, Iraq Kuwait, Iran, Russia. Russia has failed to smash Ukraine despite being neighbors.Russia would take severe casualties if they tried UK, France Germany or Italy.

Europe leaders must be making money off Zelensky They send money, Kiev routes some of it private offshore accounts in Lichtenstein, Cayman, Jersey etc
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Obrigardo:
Majority as in Mandate?
Don't be stupid, post election data showed the rapist trump doesn't have the mandate. Lowest popular vote count at 1.3%.

Now tell me otherwise, show me your data, you rot and piss maga cultist.
On X someone is accusing Trump of being a liar.
Trump promised they would get tired of winning once he is elected.
The X user is not yet tired of winning and he wont ,which means Trump was lying.
Have a good day .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 1:18pm On Feb 19, 2025
IjeBos:
In a legal brief, the White House now says Musk has no authority to make decisions in DOGE, is not DOGE's administrator nor an employee of DOGE.
Seems they realized what they were doing was illegal and now are backpeddling some.
So now the question is, if Musk isn't in charge, who is?
Maybe the 19-year-old boy who proudly said that he was a racist “before it was cool” on Musk’s team. tongue
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 1:21pm On Feb 19, 2025
The DOGE thing is just political opportunism and sensationalism to make political capital out of the norms of US spending for decades. Most of it is sensationalism to win voters just like Elon shouting about 130 year old people on National database

To make you think Democrats are stealing money and win your vote eternally

At the end of the year, we would just judge the growth or decline in deficit, National spending and Social Security spending to judge the truth or otherwise of the matter

Men lie, women lie, numbers dont
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 2:42pm On Feb 19, 2025
Livelystone01:
Now the question is, why are the so-called enlightened westerners still believing the nonsense being sold to them that Russia wants to take over Europe?

If that's not a certificate of being brainwashed I don't know what that is.
They don't believe that. They want their subjects to believe that to justify what they are doing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:42pm On Feb 19, 2025
Ibime:
The DOGE thing is just political opportunism and sensationalism to make political capital out of the norms of US spending for decades. Most of it is sensationalism to win voters just like Elon shouting about 130 year old people on National database

To make you think Democrats are stealing money and win your vote eternally

At the end of the year, we would just judge the growth or decline in deficit, National spending and Social Security spending to judge the truth or otherwise of the matter

Men lie, women lie, numbers dont
You always say nonsense while making it sound like you know what you are saying.

People has been stealing and spending in a nonsensical manner, they have been doing it for decades so now its the norm according to Ibime. If you steal and waste money for years it will become the norm and anyone who tries to expose or fix it is only doing it for political optics.

Guy use your head
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 2:47pm On Feb 19, 2025
bemeruca:
You always say nonsense while making it sound like you know what you are saying.

People has been stealing and spending in a nonsensical manner, they have been doing it for decades so now its the norm according to Ibime. If you steal and waste money for years it will become the norm and anyone who tries to expose or fix it is only doing it for political optics.

Guy use your head
The numbers will tell lies from truth at end of year.

If you say there's massive fraud, then you cut it out, simple and it shows in the result

Otherwise it's just rabble rousing.

So now there are 60 million fraudsters over 100 years old on Social Security register, I will expect to see Social Security spend cut by the equivalent of 60 million people or 20%. . . . or you are a LIAR who knows what he is doing with sensationalism to appeal to the low IQ crowd
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:49pm On Feb 19, 2025
Android17:
See them quarreling o.

You people that predicted it, I doff my hat.
No be fight dem dey fight so? See as Trump dey choke Elon
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:52pm On Feb 19, 2025
descarado:
They don't believe that. They want their subjects to believe that to justify what they are doing.
Russia is a threat to Europe that's a fact. Do they want to invade NATO Countries? No but they sure want to keep their nukes pointed at them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
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Ibime:
The DOGE thing is just political opportunism and sensationalism to make political capital out of the norms of US spending for decades. Most of it is sensationalism to win voters just like Elon shouting about 130 year old people on National database

To make you think Democrats are stealing money and win your vote eternally

At the end of the year, we would just judge the growth or decline in deficit, National spending and Social Security spending to judge the truth or otherwise of the matter

Men lie, women lie, numbers dont
This didn't happen?
DOGE this month uncovered the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) distribution of $59 million to luxury New York City hotels to house illegal migrants. This led to a clawback order from the Department of Homeland Security and the firing of four top FEMA financial officials

I'm supposed to believe you and not this House Committee .
After I do that , O ye all knowing, should I DM you for further instructions on what to believe ?

Don't take us for fools.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:58pm On Feb 19, 2025
Ibime:
The numbers will tell lies from truth at end of year.

If you say there's massive fraud, then you cut it out, simple and it shows in the result

Otherwise it's just rabble rousing.

So now there are 60 million fraudsters over 100 years old on Social Security register, I will expect to see Social Security spend cut by the equivalent of 60 million people or 20%. . . . or you are a LIAR who knows what he is doing with sensationalism to appeal to the low IQ crowd
Oga you just want to talk. Now you are backing the flushing of cash and fraud.

To you all this is look at me, vote for me.
You have gone to Snopes website and came out confident thinking you have a clue.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 3:00pm On Feb 19, 2025
bemeruca:
Russia is a threat to Europe that's a fact. Do they want to invade NATO Countries? No but they sure want to keep their nukes pointed at them.
Europe is a threat to Africa. Do we have a voice, no.

When I was a student in Nigeria, I lived in the same compound with a son of Niger accountant General then. Noticed something and asked him.
All he brought to school were made in France. As in everything. Asked him why france, even small things, he said France don't allow them manufacture anything in their country. I don't know if that is true anyway.
Also their bank is in France.
Is that not a threat? Huge one. Neocolonization is the greatest threat any country will ever have. Let other countries be threats to them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:03pm On Feb 19, 2025
descarado:
Europe is a threat to Africa. Do we have a voice, no.

When I was a student in Nigeria, I lived in the same compound with a son of Niger accountant General then. Noticed something and asked him.
All he brought to school were made in France. As in everything. Asked him why france, even small things, he said France don't allow them manufacture anything in their country. I don't know if that is true anyway.
Also their bank is in France.
Is that not a threat? Huge one. Neocolonization is the greatest threat any country will ever have. Let other countries be threats to them.
How does this relate to Russia, Ukraine and NATO conflict?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:16pm On Feb 19, 2025
bemeruca:
Oga you just want to talk. Now you are backing the flushing of cash and fraud.

To you all this is look at me, vote for me.
You have gone to Snopes website and came out confident thinking you have a clue.
Either he cuts out the significant fraud he rabble roused about or he's a liar

That's my first thought when I saw this post and I haven't researched it since. This is my day job.

It's the usual nothing burger. So come end of year I will check the Social Security savings from this MASSIVE FRAUD he highlighted and WILL OBVIOUSLY ROOT OUT IF TRUE

But as usual, he has already won the vote of a few hundred thousand low IQ people with this intentional lie, regardless of the truth. . . and that is the purpose of DOGE at the moment more so than actual cost cutting.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:22pm On Feb 19, 2025
bemeruca:
Russia is a threat to Europe that's a fact. Do they want to invade NATO Countries? No but they sure want to keep their nukes pointed at them.
Russia is a loud mouth. Their military can't overun Europe.. at least against any military that has anti radar missiles. Their s-300,s-400 and s-500 are crap.Without an effective anti-aircraft shield their army is just a sitting duck waiting to be annihilated like
Saddams army.
Russia strength is in their nuclear missiles,land,sea and air based . No way you prevent them from bombing any country on earth.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:35pm On Feb 19, 2025
basilico:
Russia is a loud mouth. Their military can't overun Europe.. at least against any military that has anti radar missiles. Their s-300,s-400 and s-500 are crap.Without an effective anti-aircraft shield their army is just a sitting duck waiting to be annihilated like
Saddams army.
Russia strength is in their nuclear missiles,land,sea and air based . No way you prevent them from bombing any country on earth.
Yeah so they are a threat.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:41pm On Feb 19, 2025
Ibime:
Either he cuts out the significant fraud he rabble roused about or he's a liar

That's my first thought when I saw this post and I haven't researched it since. This is my day job.

It's the usual nothing burger. So come end of year I will check the Social Security savings from this MASSIVE FRAUD he highlighted and WILL OBVIOUSLY ROOT OUT IF TRUE

But as usual, he has already won the vote of a few hundred thousand low IQ people with this intentional lie, regardless of the truth. . . and that is the purpose of DOGE at the moment more so than actual cost cutting.
So he posted something, you could not prove it wrong but he is a liar.

How do you show he is lying and the spreadsheet is fake?

You decided its a nothing burger because of the inherent hatred for musk.

He is not running for president. Calm down oga, the low IQ people are the one who has problem with people looking into wasteful spendings.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:47pm On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
They want a dictator. They’ve always wanted that. Remember they cheered him on when he said he was going to be a dictator from day one.

After he said that with his own mouth, anyone who repeated it was called a fear monger . Like his own word do not have any credibility.
Trump said he would a dictator from day one.
That's why he is obeying ridiculous court orders by Obama, Clinton and Biden judges
Loosely , a dictator according to me is one who has his will and way every time. Who is not challenged by anyone.
The definition has been rewritten.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:53pm On Feb 19, 2025
bemeruca:
So he posted something, you could not prove it wrong but he is a liar.

How do you show he is lying and the spreadsheet is fake?

You decided its a nothing burger because of the inherent hatred for musk.

He is not running for president. Calm down oga, the low IQ people are the one who has problem with people looking into wasteful spendings.
It's actually been proven wrong and even published by the DSS last year. I'm telling you my first instincts as a finance person cos I deal with stuff like this daily. If your first instinct was to believe him, then you are a low IQ person.

He knows it was wrong and could have quickly checked why it was such, but his brief is not to do the right thing, it's more expedient for him to win votes by lying, hence he published something that was blatantly false.

And since he has published, he must deliver the savings his lie suggests.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:11pm On Feb 19, 2025
Ibime:
It's actually been proven wrong and even published by the DSS last year. I'm telling you my first instincts as a finance person cos I deal with stuff like this daily. If your first instinct was to believe him, then you are a low IQ person.

He knows it was wrong and could have quickly checked why it was such, but his brief is not to do the right thing, it's more expedient for him to win votes by lying, hence he published something that was blatantly false.

And since he has published, he must deliver the savings his lie suggests.
This is not correct . Those not listed as dead?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 4:14pm On Feb 19, 2025
basilico:
This is not correct . Those not listed as dead?
I don't know what you are talking about and I'm not arguing anything with you. Come end of year, Elon must deliver savings from 20m fraudsters that he has expunged from the system, end of.
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