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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:28pm On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
Abortion ≠ IVF.

Take your meds pls or don’t talk about what you don’t know
You have not suggested Trump or project2025 would ban IVF?
If you sure you've never I'll apologize .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 7:28pm On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
That must be why they’re scrambling to get them back. To fight the nonexistent bird flu
Cool story Missus.

IQ validation complete. Candidate did not qualify for intelligent conversation.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 7:31pm On Feb 19, 2025
descarado:
I wouldn't be surprised.
If covid can be relased from a Chinese lab, anything is possible with these people.

Covid that didn't finish Nigerians.
People that were wrong about everything concerning COVID-19 want to come back to the table to play miserable skeptic to the people who were right about everything. Yet same fools have gone right back to quoting the same news sources that lied to them.

Don't forget "Safe" and "effective" is not one lie but two. Hehehehehehe.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 7:34pm On Feb 19, 2025
bemeruca:
To add someone to the system they have to go to a contractor, to delete they have to go to a contractor. Are you stupid? Does that look like an efficient system to you? Hahahaha
See, you don't even understand why the records have the dates they do and the first thing your feeble mind thinks of is to delete them.
He wants to know if a system that was designed probably 90 years ago in Cobalt is efficient.
Lol
Maybe the fact it was designed ~90 years ago or they want to replace it may give you some clues.
You're a regular MENSA candidate aren't you.. \s

Again, poof, there goes all pretense you understand any of this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 7:36pm On Feb 19, 2025
Android17:
I'm feeling so sad.

That's how much I value your opinion.

*yes I am being sarcastic*
Well given I'm the one who has been schooling you the last few days, you should value my opinion.
May help prevent you from opening your mouth and letting nonsense come out.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
basilico:
You have not suggested Trump or project2025 would ban IVF?
If you sure you've never I'll apologize .
I’ve literally never been concerned or worried about IVF.

No that I don’t care for childless couples to have children but there are already babies existing without parents if they so desperately want children.

I know that there’s a group who raised alarm concerning IVF access if the law labeling fertilized eggs as human were to become nationwide. And their concerns make sense to me; because if you say fertilized eggs are babies thus women can’t have abortions because of that, then logically you’re against IVF since those eggs are fertilized too. Except your whole end goal is to control women’s bodies and not necessarily to protect the fertilized eggs.

Your problem is that you post so much on probably several different platforms that you’re confusing your posters.

Ban or encourage IVF, idgaf. I care that women should have access to abortions primarily. IVF is a luxury . Not everyone is entitled to it.

But every woman is entitled to bodily autonomy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:40pm On Feb 19, 2025
Android17:
Cool story Missus.

IQ validation complete. Candidate did not qualify for intelligent conversation.
So lame omg 🤣🤣
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:44pm On Feb 19, 2025
Android17:
You started by entertaining AP as a news source even though they are one of those who received USAID funds to push lies. This is like Biden saying "the FBI/CIA have ruled the laptop as showing all signs of a Russian disinformation campaign" by quoting Politico that were getting the same government patronage.

And you also did not even read the article. The caption and contents are at variance. The article says Trump & Elon may have exaggerated the number of dead/ineligible people who received the benefits.

Think of it. That is pure sophistry. It is not denying the claims but instead downplaying the impact. That's (D)ownplayingism - what Democrats do for their faves.

People really need to understand what the data they are looking at is actually portraying. There is no way of verifying that the person on the receiving end was the individual who qualified for those social security benefits. The verification processes, where available, are very lax. On the treasury's side, Elon said every single disbursement was approved by the treasury with zero proof of following any verification process.

Also, the lie about the system rejecting any D-O-Bs beyond anyone aged 115, is Julius Agwu Crack your Ribs material. Again, the system approved every single payment and there was no verification process before or after disbursements.
AP is a news organizations that supports progressive causes. On most matters they are reliable , when it comes to Trump or republicans they push lies whenever possible. I will occasionally glance through AP news and Politico with an open mind
For the figures released by Elon ,I will.go with them, that looks like some data extracted from a database. Snopes and other fact checkers work in tandem. One reports possibilities them others state it as a factual matter. Media reporting repeats the story as the truth validating each other.
It's more easier to defraud when you have a very dirty database. With every approval granted by Treasury staff , someone must have sent benefits to accounts in Panama.
I have not a single figure released about SS benefits so far.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 7:48pm On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
In addition to so many private sector companies as well. Turns out if companies are scared of a bad economy their first priority is to save their bottom line. Out goes the people who work for them.

Hold your job tight nwanne.
Yes oh. I’m holding tight!

I’m even also hearing that the housing market in the DMV is reeling in anticipation of the tens of thousands of federal employees/contractors that would soon be laid off, because most of them may struggle to pay their mortgages/rent.

As you may know, most American workers are 2-3 paychecks away from homelessness, so don’t be surprised to see an uptick in rent/mortgage delinquencies in the coming months; unless Congress approves a CR that would actually pay the laid off federal employees from March through September
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:48pm On Feb 19, 2025
Android17:
People that were wrong about everything concerning COVID-19 want to come back to the table to play miserable skeptic to the people who were right about everything. Yet same fools have gone right back to quoting the same news sources that lied to them.

Don't forget "Safe" and "effective" is not one lie but two. Hehehehehehe.
State AGs 17 of them are looking at statutes where they can charge Fauci since he got a federal pardon.
Dr Death will die miserably.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:51pm On Feb 19, 2025
PDPGuy:
Yes oh. I’m holding tight!

I’m even also hearing that the housing market in the DMV is reeling in anticipation of the tens of thousands of federal employees/contractors that would soon be laid off, because most of them may struggle to pay their mortgages/rent.

As you may know, most American workers are 2-3 paychecks away from homelessness, so don’t be surprised to see an uptick in rent/mortgage delinquencies in the coming months; unless Congress approves a CR that would actually pay the laid off federal employees from March through September
Were they given buyout but refused, there are last I checked over 75000 who have accepted.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 7:52pm On Feb 19, 2025
basilico:
AP is a news organizations that supports progressive causes. On most matters they are reliable , when it comes to Trump or republicans they push lies whenever possible. I will occasionally glance through AP news and Politico with an open mind
For the figures released by Elon ,I will.go with them, that looks like some data extracted from a database. Snopes and other fact checkers work in tandem. One reports possibilities them others state it as a factual matter. Media reporting repeats the story as the truth validating each other.
It's more easier to defraud when you have a very dirty database. With every approval granted by Treasury staff , someone must have sent benefits to accounts in Panama.
I have not a single figure released about SS benefits so far.
I will read articles here and there to extract truth especially for people who trust those news sources but we should never lose sight of the larger game at play. The AP received over $52m from USAID to push liberal agenda.

That means they can NEVER be reasonable concerning this DOGE, Treasury, social security benefits discussion. The person who pays the piper dictates the tune.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 7:58pm On Feb 19, 2025
basilico:
State AGs 17 of them are looking at statutes where they can charge Fauci since he got a federal pardon.
Dr Death will die miserably.
Yeah. His comeuppance is loading. Maybe just maybe some people will only then realize they had been deceived all along.

Denialists do you remember when Fauci assured the govt of 2017 that they will surely face a pandemic?

Yeah, DOGE saw $40m of USAID funds sent to Wuhan in 2017. The Wuhan Virology lab where gain-of-function research is being conducted. Basically, where they engineer viruses and possible vaccines to combat them. That is literally what that lab does.

Fauci used tax payers money to engineer a virus. Lied about the origin of said virus, oversaw the banning of all forms of alternative OTC drugs like HCQ and IVM (even though his emails showed he knew they were effective). Then supported people getting fired for refusing an experimental procedure they knew was never safe nor effective. Think of it.

And Biden pardoned him. That should make you wonder why Biden will do so right? No. That does not get well-thinking people infuriated. Instead, they pile on Trump and Elon for exposing bast@rds like him.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:01pm On Feb 19, 2025
They are reliable on most matters except Trump should’ve been your clue that maybe your mind and brain has been hi jacked by a cult.

basilico:
AP is a news organizations that supports progressive causes. On most matters they are reliable , when it comes to Trump or republicans they push lies whenever possible. I will occasionally glance through AP news and Politico with an open mind
For the figures released by Elon ,I will.go with them, that looks like some data extracted from a database. Snopes and other fact checkers work in tandem. One reports possibilities them others state it as a factual matter. Media reporting repeats the story as the truth validating each other.
It's more easier to defraud when you have a very dirty database. With every approval granted by Treasury staff , someone must have sent benefits to accounts in Panama.
I have not a single figure released about SS benefits so far.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:03pm On Feb 19, 2025
We could go into a recession the likes of which Obama had to dig us out of and these folks will still blame dems. Even when it’s a direct result of the actions of their party leader.

PDPGuy:
Yes oh. I’m holding tight!

I’m even also hearing that the housing market in the DMV is reeling in anticipation of the tens of thousands of federal employees/contractors that would soon be laid off, because most of them may struggle to pay their mortgages/rent.

As you may know, most American workers are 2-3 paychecks away from homelessness, so don’t be surprised to see an uptick in rent/mortgage delinquencies in the coming months; unless Congress approves a CR that would actually pay the laid off federal employees from March through September
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:16pm On Feb 19, 2025
IjeBos:
See, you don't even understand why the records have the dates they do and the first thing your feeble mind thinks of is to delete them.
He wants to know if a system that was designed probably 90 years ago in Cobalt is efficient.
Lol
Maybe the fact it was designed ~90 years ago or they want to replace it may give you some clues.
You're a regular MENSA candidate aren't you.. \s

Again, poof, there goes all pretense you understand any of this.
I don't think you are human.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:18pm On Feb 19, 2025
Android17:
Chemical Engineer.

Anti-science? You better ask about me.

There is a reason some people you see here don't touch my posts. Nobody wants to be reminded about all their posts from 2020.
Mention me if you are referring to me please

I don't do corner, corner.

Leaving people alone to their delusions is a necessary skill to save ones time and headache, that's why you don't see me engaging Basil the bot.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:23pm On Feb 19, 2025
Android17:
I will read articles here and there to extract truth especially for people who trust those news sources but we should never lose sight of the larger game at play. The AP received over $52m from USAID to push liberal agenda.

That means they can NEVER be reasonable concerning this DOGE, Treasury, social security benefits discussion. The person who pays the piper dictates the tune.
From day one here , I've spoken out against MSM in general. I think it's just above 10 years now. I got fed up of the MSM two three years before the rise of ISIS, I doubt I have ever had a kind word for most of the progressive media since then. They just push propaganda.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:31pm On Feb 19, 2025
Ibime:
Mention me if you are referring to me please

I don't do corner, corner.

Leaving people alone to their delusions is a necessary skill to save ones time and headache, that's why you don't see me engaging Basil the bot.
I saw right through you I doubt your knowledge of economics. I've asked your opinions several times politely.
Forex trade and Investments you are OK. Other matters economy,don't see any substance from you .General knowledge and politics. Zero.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:36pm On Feb 19, 2025
basilico:
I saw right through you I doubt your knowledge of economics. I've asked your opinions several times politely.
Forex trade and Investments you are OK. Other matters economy,don't see any substance from you .General knowledge and politics. Zero.
Observation no be insult - as the Americans would say - "with all due respect".
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:42pm On Feb 19, 2025
IjeBos:
The problem is your party isn't against extreme abortion measures. That's why it's an issue. Some are talking about a Fed. abortion ban. IVF ban. Birth control ban. Pretty nutty stuff. And they are abusing the Judicial system to do so.

The amount of Republican House resignations are a sign of things to come.
Jut a reminder that Trump just signed an executive order to ban IVF grin grin

CNN

President Donald Trump signed an executive order Tuesday to develop policy recommendations to expand access to and affordability of in vitro fertilization.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/politics/ivf-access-cost-trump-executive-order/index.html
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:47pm On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
They are reliable on most matters except Trump should’ve been your clue that maybe your mind and brain has been hi jacked by a cult.
I should reemphasise . They are reliable on mundane non political matters . When it comes to politics they know their target audience is too dumbed down to question whatever BS they are pushing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:03pm On Feb 19, 2025
Ibime:
It's actually been proven wrong and even published by the DSS last year. I'm telling you my first instincts as a finance person cos I deal with stuff like this daily. If your first instinct was to believe him, then you are a low IQ person.

He knows it was wrong and could have quickly checked why it was such, but his brief is not to do the right thing, it's more expedient for him to win votes by lying, hence he published something that was blatantly false.

And since he has published, he must deliver the savings his lie suggests.
Ibime said musk was lying

Which fraudster follows policy 😂😂

IjeBos don't respond to this, you are too old for this

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:04pm On Feb 19, 2025
basilico:
I should reemphasise . They are reliable on mundane non political matters . When it comes to politics they know their target audience is too dumbed down to question whatever BS they are pushing.
I promise you no one is looking to you as a good judge of what a reliable source of information is.

Even the people in your camp, would fail a lie detector test if they claimed that you know what a reliable source of information is.

You can absolutely take that to the bank. I’d bet a kidney on that fact.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:09pm On Feb 19, 2025
raumdeuter:
Jut a reminder that Trump just signed an executive order to ban IVF grin grin

CNN

President Donald Trump signed an executive order Tuesday to develop policy recommendations to expand access to and affordability of in vitro fertilization.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/politics/ivf-access-cost-trump-executive-order/index.html
You seem to have missed the important words "your party" and "some" in the quote you mentioned.
Get back to me when Trump actually does something beyond an executive order looking for policy recommendations.
And your party supports him in doing so.
Until then, there is nothing in what you've written that calls into quesiton my post.

IjeBos:
The problem is your party isn't against extreme abortion measures. That's why it's an issue. Some are talking about a Fed. abortion ban. IVF ban. Birth control ban. Pretty nutty stuff. And they are abusing the Judicial system to do so.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:14pm On Feb 19, 2025
What the IVF crew didn’t learn or learned but failed to add to their disingenuous posts here is that at the same time when Trump was signing that executive order. He also signed one saying that only he or the AG had the power to interpret the law for the executive branch.

So the law is only going to mean what he says it means as it pertains to him. This dumbass really thinks he can executive order his way into becoming a king.

On Tuesday afternoon, the president signed an executive order asserting that the “President and the Attorney General will interpret the law for the executive branch,” while granting the president and the executive branch oversight over independent agencies.

In a press conference shortly after the order was signed, White House Staff Secretary Will Scharf said that the directive would “reestablish the long-standing norm that only the president or the attorney general can speak for the United States when stating an opinion as to what the law is.”

That is not at all what the Constitution says, but Trump’s attempt to consolidate power within himself and the executive branch has been the primary project of his first month in office — one that is consolidating years of dubious conservative legal theory into a single man.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:15pm On Feb 19, 2025
Republican Susan Collins says funding freezes are unconstitutional.
But Susan Collins does what she does best - seeming concerned about Trump policies while doing nothing and supporting them.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:15pm On Feb 19, 2025
bemeruca:
Ibime said musk was lying
Niggas die everyday B.

20m fraudsters is about $240 bln in social security fraud, not the small number of few millions to 24,000 people you are calling which can simply be caused by the timeframe between death and the funeral home reporting it to SSA, or a missing or dead person not declared dead till later by their families. It's normal in any developed country. In UK it costs about £150m a year, so US number of £214m is BAU, not systemic fraud.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:25pm On Feb 19, 2025
Ibime:
Niggas die everyday B.

20m fraudsters is about $240 bln in social security fraud, not the small number of few millions to 24,000 people you are calling which can simply be caused by the timeframe between death and the funeral home reporting it to SSA, or a missing or dead person not declared dead till later by their families. It's normal in any developed country. In UK it costs about £150m a year, so US number of £214m is BAU, not systemic fraud.
So you are against someone wanting to fix it?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:43pm On Feb 19, 2025
bemeruca:
So you are against someone wanting to fix it?
I'm against a dishonest nigga lying for political reasons. There is nothing to fix cos there is no systemic fraud. A nigga dies on Wednesday, funeral home has to report in 3 days on Saturday. His Social Security payment is due on Thursday. Wetin you want fix

Or someone dies, his family keeps the body at home for 3 months claiming on him without getting death certificate. How does that relate to the nonsense he put out for the low IQ sheep?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:48pm On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
I promise you no one is looking to you as a good judge of what a reliable source of information is.

Even the people in your camp, would fail a lie detector test if they claimed that you know what a reliable source of information is.

You can absolutely take that to the bank. I’d bet a kidney on that fact.
Let's do a quick test.
According to the judge only bureacrats should have access to IRS data The judge had blocked the political appointees Secretary of Treasury from having access to the data . DOGE us blocked for now.

Question.Is this judgement reasonable? What do the correct sources say?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:58pm On Feb 19, 2025
This is why funding scientific research is important

These scientists may or may not be successful at the end of the day but if they do become successful, that’s hundreds of thousands of people on organ transplants waitlist that may be able to live and get an organ sooner than later.

That’s millions of people with auto immune disorders that may find relief.

If you let the Republican propaganda machine tell it, German scientists are spending tax payer money to study how anglerfish fvck. And their followers will go “whoa fraud fraud waste waste”. No iota of follow up critical thinking or questioning or clarification.

I don’t feel bad whatsoever about calling their followers stupid because if not stupid why stupid shaped?

For many of the 168 species on the anglerfish roster, mating involves tissue fusion. The dwarf male – sometimes no longer than a grain of rice – attaches to the female, a bruiser by comparison. In extreme cases, everything from the skin to the circulatory system is shared between mated animals. Permanently dependent on the female for nutrients, the male lives out his days as a hitchhiking sperm donor.


Exactly how these fishes manage such anatomical melding without being rejected by a mate’s immune system has puzzled scientists for decades. But a team led by researchers at the Max Planck Institute of Immunobiology and Epigenetics (MPIIE) in Freiburg, Germany, may have found the answer.

Vertebrate bodies distinguish ‘self’ from ‘non-self’ with direction from a group of genes called MHC genes. The expression of these genes is like a cellular fingerprint, either sneaking past or alerting another organism’s intruder scanner: the adaptive immune system.

Some animals are able to ‘sniff out’ a well-matched mate by honing in on a potential partner’s MHC status. ‘There were some examples of these anglerfishes that had very large nostrils. So I thought, yes, this must be it,’ says Dr Thomas Boehm, an MPIIE immunologist and co-author of the study.

The team sequenced the genomes of 13 anglerfish species, expecting to find MHC-matched mates that, like genetically identical twins, would be able to swap tissue without triggering an immune response. ‘But that wasn’t the case,’ says Boehm. ‘So then we wondered, what’s going on here?’ A deeper dive revealed that some anglerfish species have opted out of adaptive immunity altogether, lacking the genes that are critical to making both new antibodies and ‘killer’ T-cells.

‘That was a shock,’ admits Boehm. ‘Human patients [in similar condition] would be so immuno-compromised, they would die without a bone marrow transplant.’ Yet somehow the fishes are able to protect themselves from infection and foreign threats.


To stop human transplant recipients from rejecting donated organs, doctors have to suppress their adaptive immune response so as to stop the body from recognising and attacking ‘non-self’ cells. Dampening this response while maintaining enough immune defence for these patients to survive is a delicate dance.

Unlocking the secrets of anglerfish immunity could make it easier to find the right steps. ‘We don’t know how to do it yet,’ says Boehm, ‘but these fishes may show us the way.’
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