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Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by chopnaira: 2:23am On Feb 23, 2025
Goodvibes007:
100 percent. They were their before the eguns and the Egba/Owu that moved in later because of war and the Saro/Agudas that moved in later as well.
This is correct. I am an Egba from Ifako Ijaiye. My ancestors settled in Iju all the way to some parts of Agege in the early to mid 1800s. They were soldiers from the Egba main army placed in that region to repel the Dahomeans encroaching into that side of Lagos and Ogun.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by favor914: 2:26am On Feb 23, 2025
chopnaira:
If I get to igboland today, I don't understand their language, but if I get to ketou or Porto norvo, I would feel more welcome as I would find my brothers that speak my language. Eat Amala and ewedu and share my culture.

Nigeria is just a geographical entity created by the British to serve their own interest. That's why cohesion is not strong.

Part of my schooling was in Britain and my Hausas friend from Kano is best friends with other Hausas guy from Niger Republic. They all speak Hausa and have the same food and culture.
The Igbos move with each other. Same as the Yorubas as well.
What does that tell you?
Language doesn’t make a country, neither does religion, Nigeria is a diverse society of ethnicities, that is why it is called The Federal Republic of Nigeria, a Federation of different ethnicities living under one constitution.

A great Nation.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by favor914: 2:30am On Feb 23, 2025
chopnaira:
This is correct. I am an Egba from Ifako Ijaiye. My ancestors settled in Iju all the way to some parts of Agege in the early to mid 1800s. They were soldiers from the Egba main army placed in that region to repel the Dahomeans encroaching into that side of Lagos and Ogun.
What is the name of country that Dahomey is in today, that borders both Lagos & Ogun State?

The namesake of the people that had controlled Lagos 300 years before the Egbas were sent there to defend it?
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by chopnaira: 2:34am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
Language doesn’t make a country, neither does religion, Nigeria is a diverse society of ethnicities, that is why it is called The Federal Republic of Nigeria, a Federation of different ethnicities living under one constitution.

A great Nation.
Mtchew
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by chopnaira: 2:36am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
What is the name of country that Dahomey is in today, that borders both Lagos & Ogun State?

The namesake of the people that had controlled Lagos 300 years before the Egbas were sent there to defend it?
Bright of Ile ibinu. Oranmiyan named Benin Ile Ibinu (land of vexation) which the Portugese corrupted to Benin. The current Kings of Benin descended from Oranmiyan. An Ife price who impregnated an Igodomigodo princess.

The father of the first king of Isale Eko is an Awori Yoruba man.

The current line of the Kings of Isale Eko is an Ijesha (Ilesha) Yoruba man that married Erelu Kutu.

I don't know where you are trying to drive at with your narratives which are thread derailing.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by Smartcitizen: 2:45am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
That is not the argument, just correcting u, old Oyo (Oyo & Osun) State is the core of Yorubaland not Lagos.
God bless you richly.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by favor914: 2:45am On Feb 23, 2025
chopnaira:
Bright of Ile ibinu. Oranmiyan named Benin Ile Ibinu (land of vexation) which the Portugese corrupted to Benin. The current Kings of Benin descended from Oranmiyan. An Ife price who impregnated an Igodomigodo princess.

The father of the first king of Isale Eko is an Awori Yoruba man.

The current line of the Kings of Isale Eko is an Ijesha (Ilesha) Yoruba man that married Erelu Kutu.

I don't know where you are trying to drive at with your narratives which are thread derailing.
They corrupted it , but the people in present day Benin Republic adopted it, & are proud of the name?

It was Yorubas that named the BInis & told them that they are from The Great Benin Empire?

Oranmiyan from the forest of the Ife hinterland named the coastal area the Bight of Benin, just like your igbo brothers from the hinterland of Arochukwu named the coast the bight of Biafra also abi?

Both of una try well well.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by favor914: 2:59am On Feb 23, 2025
chopnaira:
Bright of Ile ibinu. Oranmiyan named Benin Ile Ibinu (land of vexation) which the Portugese corrupted to Benin. The current Kings of Benin descended from Oranmiyan. An Ife price who impregnated an Igodomigodo princess.

The father of the first king of Isale Eko is an Awori Yoruba man.

The current line of the Kings of Isale Eko is an Ijesha (Ilesha) Yoruba man that married Erelu Kutu.

I don't know where you are trying to drive at with your narratives which are thread derailing.
History

All Obas of Lagos trace their lineage to Ashipa - an Awori,[1] a war captain of the Oba of Benin. Ashipa was rewarded with the title of the Oloriogun[2] (War leader) and he received the Oba of Benin's sanction to govern Lagos on his behalf.

Ashipa received a sword and royal drum as symbols of his authority from the Oba of Benin on his mission to Lagos. Additionally, the Oba of Benin deployed a group of Benin officers charged with preserving Benin's interests in Lagos.

These officers, led by Eletu Odibo, were the initial members of the Akarigbere class of Lagos White Cap Chiefs.

Prior to the arrival of the British, the Oba of Benin had "the undisputed right to crown or confirm the individual whom the people of Lagos elect[ed] to be their King".

Tributes continue to flow the way of Benin from Lagos island for many years until around the year 1830 when Lagos stopped it. By this time, the status of Lagos as an independent power in its own right had risen tremendously and it had become too strong to be attacked.

The King of Benin therefore had to be content with occasional gifts which were no longer given as obligatory tribute, but rather, as an act of historical sentiment.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by aswani(m): 3:05am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
When did Lagos become the core of Yorubaland?

Right from the history of time, Lagos has always been distinct from Yoruba land, when the Portuguese (first Europeans) arrived in Eko, it was been ruled by the Bini Empire that ruled it until 1861 when the British Empire officially liberated Lagos from The Oba of Benin.

The British ruled it for 99 years & handed it over to The Federal Government of Nigeria in 1960 who then created modern Lagos State on the 4th day of July 1967.
What language do they speak in the palace of the Ọba of Lagos please?
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by aswani(m): 3:10am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
This is nothing go to Brazil, U will see Yoruba culture in action.

The Oni of Ife is a celebrated Deity.
Even the government in Brazil accepts that the state of Bahia is different.

If you think Brazilians in Bahia don't joke with their Yoruba customs, go to Cuba and see some serious Yoruba stuff going on.

At some point, the Ooni or the Aláàfin must formalise a special relationship with these people.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by favor914: 3:12am On Feb 23, 2025
aswani:
What language do they speak in the palace of the Ọba of Lagos please?
Chopnaira, Who Was The First Oba Of Lagos?

Prince Ado is recognized as the first Oba of Lagos, who was an instrumental leader who helped turn Lagos into a prominent settlement. He was born to Ashipa, a local chief from Isheri, in the early 1600s.

Ado’s family roots trace back to the Oba of Benin. In 1630, Prince Ado became the first Oba of Lagos, appointed by the Oba of Benin. His reign began the Ashipa dynasty, the family line that would continue to rule Lagos for many generations.

Under Ado’s leadership, the settlement was called “Eko,” which means “pepper” in Yoruba, symbolizing its agricultural roots. However, Portuguese explorers later changed the name to Lagos in the late 1400s, long before Ado’s time.

Ado’s reign focused on strengthening Lagos as a trading center. He builds good relationships with nearby communities to ensure peace and security for trade.

Also, he oversaw the construction of key buildings, including what would later become the palace of Iga Idunganran. Even though Ado faced challenges from rivals and external threats, he succeeded in laying a strong foundation for future rulers.

After his death in 1669, his descendants continued to rule Lagos, keeping the title of Oba within his family. Today, the Oba of Lagos holds great cultural significance, even though the position no longer carries political power.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by favor914: 3:17am On Feb 23, 2025
aswani:
Even the government in Brazil accepts that the state of Bahia is different.

If you think Brazilians in Bahia don't joke with their Yoruba customs, go to Cuba and see some serious Yoruba stuff going on.


At some point, the Ooni or the Aláàfin must formalise a special relationship with these people.
That is not the issue, the issue was Oyo is the core Yorubaland not Lagos, don’t be purporting to tell us history that every Abdul, Emeka & Ayo knows about the strong Yoruba culture in the diaspora.

Chopnaira claimed the core Yorubaland is Lagos, I said it is a lie, the core Yorubaland is Oyo, now Osun & Oyo State.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by aswani(m): 3:19am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
Chopnaira, Who Was The First Oba Of Lagos?

Prince Ado is recognized as the first Oba of Lagos, who was an instrumental leader who helped turn Lagos into a prominent settlement. He was born to Ashipa, a local chief from Isheri, in the early 1600s.

Ado’s family roots trace back to the Oba of Benin. In 1630, Prince Ado became the first Oba of Lagos, appointed by the Oba of Benin. His reign began the Ashipa dynasty, the family line that would continue to rule Lagos for many generations.

Under Ado’s leadership, the settlement was called “Eko,” which means “pepper” in Yoruba, symbolizing its agricultural roots. However, Portuguese explorers later changed the name to Lagos in the late 1400s, long before Ado’s time.

Ado’s reign focused on strengthening Lagos as a trading center. He builds good relationships with nearby communities to ensure peace and security for trade.

Also, he oversaw the construction of key buildings, including what would later become the palace of Iga Idunganran. Even though Ado faced challenges from rivals and external threats, he succeeded in laying a strong foundation for future rulers.

After his death in 1669, his descendants continued to rule Lagos, keeping the title of Oba within his family. Today, the Oba of Lagos holds great cultural significance, even though the position no longer carries political power.
There is no Benin spoken at Rilwan Akiolu's Palace. Lagos Island is the Southernmost point of Yorubaland.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by Christistruth02: 3:21am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
What is the name of country that Dahomey is in today, that borders both Lagos & Ogun State?

The namesake of the people that had controlled Lagos 300 years before the Egbas were sent there to defend it?
Dahomey spent almost a Century under Oyo

It is called Benin Republic because of its location on the bight of Benin
Part of the Atlantic Ocean
Till today all the Obas of Benin Republic are still under Ooni of Ife and must get a staff of
office from him on their coronation
And Oba of Porto Novo is also under Alaafin Oyo
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by favor914: 3:28am On Feb 23, 2025
aswani:
There is no Benin spoken at Rilwan Akiolu's Palace. Lagos Island is the Southernmost point of Yorubaland.
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/12/03/much-ado-about-founders-of-lagos/?amp

https://www.instagram.com/goldmynetv/reel/C0LSH3BIbX4/?hl=en
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by favor914: 3:30am On Feb 23, 2025
Christistruth02:
Dahomey spent almost a Century under Oyo

It is called Benin Republic because of its location on the bight of Benin
Part of the Atlantic Ocean

Till today all the Obas of Benin Republic are still under Ooni of Ife and must get a staff of
office from him on their coronation
And Oba of Porto Novo is also under Alaafin Oyo
Since til today all the Obas of Benin Republic are still under Ooni of Ife and must get a staff of
office from him on their coronation.

Why is it not called the Bight of Oduduwa, or the Bight of Ife?

Or Oduduwa Republic or Ife Republic?
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by naijaking1: 3:59am On Feb 23, 2025
Olisa, Olisha, Orisa, Orisha.
Whose word is it?
Igbo?
Yoruba?
Or their common ancestor?
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by ElSudani: 4:31am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
Was Lagos part of the Western Region of Nigeria, if it wasn’t, how could it be the core of Yorubaland?

Why was the capital of western region situated in Ibadan?

Old Oyo now Osun & present Oyo state is the core Yoruba Land not Lagos o.
Lagos was indeed part of the western region. Only a small part in Lagos Island was the Federal Capital.
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by chopnaira: 5:20am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
Chopnaira claimed the core Yorubaland is Lagos, I said it is a lie, the core Yorubaland is Oyo, now Osun & Oyo State.
You are not normal. I never said that.
Whoever is chatting with you would not know you are not mentally balanced. Lagos is yorubaland covered by Ogun then covered by Ondo state, Osun and Oyo state. You don't like it, go and hug transformer or jump inside the lagoon.

Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by Baronthecelebri(m): 5:37am On Feb 23, 2025
See better yansh 😲
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by aswani(m): 6:07am On Feb 23, 2025
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by Alsenora: 6:41am On Feb 23, 2025
The fellow is ignorant of the fact that Lagos became a British colony in 1861 by a signed treaty and had been administratered separately before the Yoruba hinterlands were harnessed after the Yoruba civil war....subsequent partitions of Africa by colonialists and further treaties signed with other geographical territories known today as Nigeria brought other regions together.
Christistruth02:
Who be this one?


99% of Lagos state Land Mass belongs to Awolowo’s Yoruba Ronu Yoruba Parapo western Region
Do you see that tiny dot below Ikeja LG?

That was Lagos island the Federal Capital
It was 32 sq km

The remaining 3,544 sq km of Lagos State belonged to the Yoruba Western Region


The entire Coast of Lagos was inside the Yoruba Ronu Yoruba Parapo Western Region


Lagos Island is an a island inside the Lagos Lagoon that was completely surrounded by the
Western Region
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by yinkeys(m): 6:57am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
Yes o, na Yorubas & Igbos full The Americas, na them Oyibos carry pass during the Trans Atlantic Trade.

Jamaica na descendants of Igbos full there pass.
Some say Jamaicans are from Ghana
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by Christistruth02:
favor914:
Since til today all the Obas of Benin Republic are still under Ooni of Ife and must get a staff of
office from him on their coronation.

Why is it not called the Bight of Oduduwa, or the Bight of Ife?

Or Oduduwa Republic or Ife Republic?
So Why are the Yoruba Kings in Benin Republic and Togo called Obas and not Enogies or Obis ?

I t is because the Ooni of Ife is their Overlord !!
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by chudyprince: 7:58am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
Yes o, na Yorubas & Igbos full The Americas, na them Oyibos carry pass during the Trans Atlantic Trade.

Jamaica na descendants of Igbos full there pass.
Wow
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by chudyprince: 8:01am On Feb 23, 2025
Their women are heavy sha grin
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by shortIGBOman: 8:01am On Feb 23, 2025
flokii:
If these guys can be preserving Yoruba culture in this way and manner, someone should please tell me why Lagos that is core of Yorubaland should surrender her Yoruba values to outsiders.. ehnn.

Yoruba ronu!!
Lagos is no man's land
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by Christistruth02: 8:14am On Feb 23, 2025
shortIGBOman:
Lagos is no man's land

Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by DeeScan: 8:26am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
That is not the argument, just correcting u, old Oyo (Oyo & Osun) State is the core of Yorubaland not Lagos.
I don't think anyone has ever mentioned Lagos as the core of Yorubaland ..


It has always been the oyos/osun/ekiti .. right from time...
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by DeeScan: 9:13am On Feb 23, 2025
I just went through the history of this country and nothing was documented about them having ancestries down to Nigeria..


You sure say the woman no dey cap
Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by Raydos(m): 9:16am On Feb 23, 2025
favor914:
When did Lagos become the core of Yorubaland?

Right from the history of time, Lagos has always been distinct from Yoruba land, when the Portuguese (first Europeans) arrived in Eko, it was been ruled by the Bini Empire that ruled it until 1861 when the British Empire officially liberated Lagos from The Oba of Benin.

The British ruled it for 99 years & handed it over to The Federal Government of Nigeria in 1960 who then created modern Lagos State on the 4th day of July 1967.
A quick reminder that lagos is literally surrounded by yoruba land, and 3 yoruba land has access to the sea

So I always wonder how the benin, Passed through, Ondo and Ogun to settle in Lagos, it’s very laughable - Ondo is literally beside Benin and has access to the sea, They didn’t rule that

It’s lagos that is miles away from benin that they ruled? Very Laughable something 😂😂

Re: ''We Are The ORISHA People'' -Trinidad & Tobago Celebrates Its Nigerian Heritage by aswani(m): 9:23am On Feb 23, 2025
Raydos:
A quick reminder that lagos is literally surrounded by yoruba land, and 3 yoruba land has access to the sea

So I always wonder how the benin, Passed through, Ondo and Ogun to settle in Lagos, it’s very laughable - Ondo is literally beside Benin and has access to the sea, They didn’t rule that

It’s lagos that is miles away from benin that they ruled? Very Laughable something 😂😂
I thing there was a Benin outpost along the coast and I suspect Ivbiedo sailed down there.

Of course at that time, there was no Lagos as we now know it as it was just small hamlets linked by bush paths.
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