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Softmirror:
Lol 😂. Such seniority didn't apply after Abacha died otherwise Abubakar Abdulsalam wouldn't have been Head of State.

It was Al Mustapha's doings that made a one time Court Marshalled Abubakar Abdulsalam who was convicted of embezzlement, tempering with Soldiers Salaries in the early 70s Nigeria's Head of State after Abacha died.

And Abubakar Abdulsalam made sure he looted almost every dime Abacha saved in Nigeria's Treasury to reinforce his one time conviction of embezzlement as true.

AndroBlaze:
Though Useni seniored Abdusalami, it was actually not that straightforward as the post Abulsalami had in the military was actually the highest next to the head of state (seeing as Abacha refused to name someone to replace Diya).

Also, an interesting fact is Useni joined the army before Abacha too and would have seniored him at a point....the baba was suppose to have retired long ago.

Anyway, the right thing was done their as Abdulsalami had the most senior post and the other person who actually wanted to become HOS was Gen Bamaiyi as he was chief of Army staff.

Also a correction, it was Mike Akhigbe the most senior service chief that ensured Abdusalami took over. They had a meeting like the one IBB describes in the OBJ/Danjuma case and Akhigbe did not allow anyone to talk making it clear that a nervous Abdulsalami must succeed Abacha as their Military traditions entailed. Abdulsalammi did not say a word. This is all from eyewitnesses by the way.

Softmirror:
What role did Al Mustapha play when Abacha died to ensure there wasn't any sucsession crisis?

AndroBlaze:
It's well known that he was the first official person to find out Abacha died. Obviously he broke the news to Marayam, not before ensuring orderliness though and calling the gap toothed emperor in Minna to inform him and ask his advice. Obviously it was the evil genius who put things in place and ensured it would be his bossom childhood friend that would succeed Abacha. Probably that is where Akhigbe got his courage from to commandier that meeting, but most people who knew Akhigbe always said he was courageous and not to be messed with.

Mustapha undoubtedly did his part to ensure those who he thought were his enemies had no chance to succeed Abacha (Bamaiyi and Useni). What he got wrong was that clearly Abdulsalami didn't think much of him either....but who could blame them, as he was a Major who made himself a dredd and nuisance to most of those senior officers and they were just taking the insults and managing him because they knew Abacha had full trust in him.

The military teaches you to be patient when you are looking for revenge.

tishbite43:
Stop telling nonsense lies
Fajuyi was marked for death like Ironsi
Many northerners believed he was sympathetic to the coup
He didn't sacrifice himself for anyone
Stop consoling yourself with lies

masseratti:
when you won't read nau .why won't you call someone a liar?there are several books written about the coup... google is your friend my dear .fajuyi marked for death and other region leaders were left alive abi?kwantinue..Mr brave.

Bobloco:
https://tribuneonlineng.com/obasanjo-opted-to-leave-army-when-asked-to-succeed-murtala-%e2%80%95ibb/

tishbite43:
Ironsi faced death as a man, general or no general. The names I mentioned narrated his death. Ogundipe fled without facing a single challenge. How about that?! Ironsi could have absconded too. The rumors of a counter coup was rife in the air.
Ojukwu is a forever hero for the Igbos
He forfeited his commission, his father's properties to cast his lot with his people. The mere fact that he's more respected than the likes of Azikiwe, Okpara, Mbakwe, Osadebay, Ekwueme etc says a lot.
No combatant in the Nigerian military has called him a coward till date. You know better than them?!
Even Gowon was happy that he left the scene.
You can confirm that.
As for MNK, he's under the care of your Yoruba brother. Let anything happen to him. E go dey una like film.

masseratti:
unlive Ironsi in an unmatched ambush situation..that's a coward my friend..he should have gone toe to toe with them to show his bravery..only a coward ambush others their safety were entrust In his hand ,he should av taken the Position if others behind him won't off him ..

jayAjoku:
i just tire we don’t need to know what the bastard is saying , he had the chance to fix the country and become a true hero but he didn’t. I wish I could kill him with my bare hands bloody bastard

givedemwotowoto:
Still on IBB’s Book. Notes about the Jan 1966 coup:

The main people who were murdered at the January 1966 coup were responsible for Awolowo’s imprisonment: Ladoke Akintola, Ahmadu Bello, and Tafawa Balewa. Why? Nnamdi Azikiwe, according to the coup plotters including Ademoyega wasn’t on their target list.

I personally don’t think Awolowo planned the coup because I haven’t seen evidence to that, but I think they may have thought he was wrongfully imprisoned and wanted to set him free, something Gowon will eventually do to bring peace and stability to his government.

Ademoyega himself admitted that the coup wasn’t ethnic motivated, and he published this book over 15 years after the coup, many years after most of the coup plotters had passed. He (Ademoyega) was one of the planners if not the mastermind because he was the most educated and oldest of them all.

IBB’s book states what many people have known already, but it puts a major endorsement to it because he was a witness as a young officer and lived all through it daily in the army, rising through the ranks to eventually become head of state.

Odin13:
Fact ..

TY Danjuma said same … long time ago.


But question . Why are Yoruba Generals always scared

No be mean joke but reality .. when IBB said in Lagos .. that if they beating war drum .. he will go and sleep

Something with this people

AndroBlaze:
Clearly we have different values and come from different cultures.

In my culture we are thought once you start trouble you finish it. In our greatest empire, if generals go to war and lose, they are not allowed to come back. If a king starts a war and loses, he was expected to commit suicide and allow someone else who the gods are happy with take over.

As I grew older and I started to fight and lose some of my own fights, I understood the idea behind this was to ensure peace, as starting trouble and running away is not acceptable.

As shameless as Hitler was, when the allied forces came calling for him, he did not run away after wasting so many German lives, he joined them without anyone needing to tell him twice.


In my culture these are things to be proud of. Its pretty simple, if you can avoid a fight avoid it by all means. But once you start a fight, once you start one, make sure you do everything to win oooo, because though failure is acceptable, coming back to laugh, shine teeth and tell the tales of the failure isn't oooo.

So though decent Yoruba men might understand why you people choose to celebrate Ironsi, Ojukwu's case of allowing 3 million people to die and come back and be shinning teeth,
is an abomination in our culture.

We have different values so I will stop engaging you as I am clearly wasting my time.

Germi9:
Toe to toe with a presidential convoy? loL you funny oh warfare is not power but strategy and intelligence. Your ability to take your enemy unaware makes you the bad guy. Go read 48 laws of power by Robert Greene.

tishbite43:
Go and read

masseratti:
unlive Ironsi in an unmatched ambush situation..that's a coward my friend..he should have gone toe to toe with them to show his bravery..only a coward ambush others their safety were entrust In his hand ,he should av taken the Position if others behind him won't off him ..

tunjilana:
The biggest cowards were the coupists of January 1966, killing unarmed civilian leaders along with their pregnant wives...even the military leaders they killed couldn't believe they came to kill them as these were boys who visited their house to eat pounded yam...Ademulegun's daughter still calls one of them uncle to show you how the family was always welcoming to the cowards that snuck on them at night to kill them...

aswani:
What a super write up, thank you so much for blessing us with it.

It's long but no word is wasted.

Great write up.

Another reason for me to be pleased I didn't let Obidient imbecility remove me from here.

Thanks once more.

AndroBlaze:
Clearly we have different values and come from different cultures.

In my culture we are thought once you start trouble you finish it. In our greatest empire, if generals go to war and lose, they are not allowed to come back. If a king starts a war and loses, he was expected to commit suicide and allow someone else who the gods are happy with take over.

As I grew older and I started to fight and lose some of my own fights, I understood the idea behind this was to ensure peace, as starting trouble and running away is not acceptable.

As shameless as Hitler was, when the allied forces came calling for him, he did not run away after wasting so many German lives, he joined them without anyone needing to tell him twice.

The small island nation of Japan fought America with all they had after they used their hand to look for trouble and force America into the 2nd World war. When their fighter pilots ran out of bullets, they could have easily flown away like Ojukwu to distant lands looking for cheap women. But in what had not been seen in modern warfare at that time, they flew directly into American ships, killing themselves and causing maximum damage to their enemies. The word Kamikaze, now borrowed to the English language, pays homage to this.

Americans, no in fact the West, had never seen this kind of resolve before, they were in awe. Germany the so called superpower had given up. Italy had since given up. But this tiny nation of Japan that was suppose to be the easiest to defeat was making life miserable for them. It seemed to them that the only way they could overcome this tiny nation's resilience was to drop the mother of all experimental bombs on them. Till today Amercians are still ashamed of their action. Anyway Japan had to give up after the bombings as they clearly saw the Americans could annihilate their race in two days with all the carnage.

More recently we saw the extreme video of the Russian and Ukrainian officers who after running out of bullets fought themselves hand to hand till death...and the Ukrainian officer still congratulated the Russian while dieing.

In my culture these are things to be proud of. Its pretty simple, if you can avoid a fight avoid it by all means. But once you start a fight, once you start one, make sure you do everything to win oooo, because though failure is acceptable, coming back to laugh, shine teeth and tell the tales of the failure isn't oooo.

So though decent Yoruba men might understand why you people choose to celebrate Ironsi, Ojukwu's case of allowing 3 million people to die and come back and be shinning teeth among una,
is an abomination in our culture.

We have different values so I will stop engaging you as I am clearly wasting my time.

ScamDemicEra:
.... Danjuma said the same thing IBB said in several interviews :

it wasn't an "Igbo coup" but quickly became "Igbo coup" afterwards with taunting and chest beating by Igbo officer's wives in the barrack and some music record dissing Bello and praising Igbo officers and some gruesome pictures of Bello. Madiebo's in his book said some Igbo officers were alarmed and were sure a reprisal coup was inevitable.

I wasn't there but this is true to type of some Igbos as noted by Achebe (RIP) and Igbo superiority hubris littered all over nairaland comments:

"Igbo as a group are not without their flaws. Their success can and did carry deadly penalties: the dangers of hubris, overweening pride, and thoughtlessness, which invite envy and hatred or, even worse, that can obsess the mind with material success and dispose it to all kinds of crude showiness."

Antoeni:
My Igbo brothers make una dey active oo, anywhere u see Yoruba person post anything pls read it and make sure there’s a confirmation that lies is not hiding under coz it’s seems like this people has Bleep us up with lies to the outside world… time to expose them

Odin13:
Fact ..

TY Danjuma said same … long time ago.


But question . Why are Yoruba Generals always scared

No be mean joke but reality .. when IBB said in Lagos .. that if they beating war drum .. he will go and sleep

Something with this people

Mrexcell:
Interesting which tribe and state is dimka from.

masseratti:
I was answering someone calling other people coward...taking someone unaware is not a Hallmark of bravery,or can you say Brutus that stabbed Ceaser was much more brave than Ceaser?

Jlow2:
all re same tribe, ngas tribe in Kanke and pankshin lga of plateau state

hafeeanubasy:
But not accounted for by one single brainless 32yro nzobu nzobu general that is still being worshipped hy his people.