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| Re: Salvation In Islam by doffman: 2:43pm On Feb 24, 2025 |
delkuf:Good 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 My only problem is that, that god is powerless and useless . How can a God be nailed by a common men. And you expect that same powerless god to safe you ? 🤣 Abegi , who do this to you ?🤣
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| Re: Salvation In Islam by MightySparrow(op): 2:45pm On Feb 24, 2025 |
Ohyoudidnt:Yes you are right. That is why the types are called shadows and antitypes (Christ) is the reality. The types had their own glory but not as the glory of the Lord. Cheers brother. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by doffman: 2:47pm On Feb 24, 2025 |
Antlislaam:Pagan , so you yourself was even ashamed of your self 🤣🤣🤣. Why are you hiding your name from what you claimed ahaaa. You must take it by fire by fire 🔥 : Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 : “My God that was nailed is alive till eternity” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote : “Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God? Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 A confused pagan cannot be taken serious
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| Re: Salvation In Islam by delkuf(m): 3:57pm On Feb 24, 2025 |
doffman:that is what you don't understand. Jesus is not powerless. He is a God but he came to the world to die for our sins. The only way the Lord Jesus Christ can fully pay for the sins you and I as human being commit is if He as God would come and become a human being like us and be nailed to the cross and on the 3 day He resurrected from the grave. That process is what save us. It may sound foolish to you but we are proud of it. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by Ohyoudidnt: 7:36pm On Feb 24, 2025 |
MightySparrow:I may have issues accepting your position as you haven't yet supported your stand with your scripture or otherwise. Jesus is not unequivocally represented as both Mashiach and Moshia. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by MightySparrow(op): 8:08pm On Feb 24, 2025 |
Ohyoudidnt:What issues? |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by Ohyoudidnt: 4:55am On Feb 25, 2025 |
MightySparrow:Jesus did not meet the traditional Jewish expectations of Mashiach because he did not establish political sovereignty over Israel or achieve the universal peace that was prophesied. Particularly in submitting to the Roman authority to be crucified as believed in Christianity you see there was no political liberation of Israel from at least the likes of Rome. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by MightySparrow(op): 7:03am On Feb 25, 2025 |
Ohyoudidnt:Acts.1.6 - When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? Acts.1.7 - And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. Acts.1.8 - But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Prophecies about Jesus and entime are coded and sometimes are understood after they have been fulfilled. You can see from this scripture that Jesus did not deny their expectation about the prophecy but the misunderstanding about the timing was the problem. Even now, so much is going on that Jews and Christians , even Muslims are still expecting. For instance, the coming if Al Dajjal ( the Antichrist). I can't still see any issues with that. Have a beautiful day. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by doffman: 2:38pm On Feb 25, 2025 |
Antlislaam:Pagan 🤣🤣 you will edit your name tire and it must be tagged to you by force ahaaaa. Pagan , so you yourself was even ashamed of your self 🤣🤣🤣. Why are you hiding your name from what you claimed ahaaa. You must take it by fire by fire 🔥 : Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 : “My God that was nailed is alive till eternity” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote : “Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God? Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 A confused pagan cannot be taken serious |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by doffman: 2:42pm On Feb 25, 2025 |
delkuf:🤣🤣 just continue to disgrace your self like a robot that have been programmed to type rubbish 😀 Seriously you these Christian pagan are disgusting . You will understand , just try and die first , you will regret and know that Paul has lied to you . The moment your Jesus was dead , who is in control of the world because you should know that God can never die . Chai , you need quick help , I swear .
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| Re: Salvation In Islam by Ohyoudidnt: 5:34pm On Feb 25, 2025 |
MightySparrow:The scripture doesn't show the apostles denying Jesus however is this report confirmed by other books of the gospel? We may question when this was documented though it is of no particular value to me however can it be said to exist in order to push a particular narrative? Do you mean the jews were misled in their expectations of a measiah to deliver them from oppressive rule and rebuilding the temple? A lot indeed is happening but is it new? Are the questions asked different from the ones asked before? Indeed there are many anti Christ with various types of understanding. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by delkuf(m): 6:51pm On Feb 25, 2025 |
doffman:never you call me Christian pagan again. It is my believe. You may believe anything you like. You may believe that this world is in hand of a savior like superman or the avengers. I don't care. What I care is what I believe. I believe that the Lord Jesus Christ the son of God came to this world and died for our sins and on the third day, he resurrected from the dead. That is what save me. That is what I believe. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by MightySparrow(op): 7:09pm On Feb 25, 2025 |
Ohyoudidnt:Are you a Muslim? |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by Ohyoudidnt: 9:03am On Feb 26, 2025 |
MightySparrow:I believe there’s a higher power out there that controls everything, no matter what I think about it. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by MightySparrow(op): 9:39am On Feb 26, 2025 |
Ohyoudidnt:Okay, I want to clarify that. My last response has answered your question. If you are playing with words you will never understand the Bible concepts. When Jesus was going away, contrary to the expectation of the Jews, Jesus didn't liberate them from Roman government rather, He gave a different assignment that was to change the cause of history. Earlier, from the synoptic Gospels, Jesus had prophesied an explanation in more details than earlier prophets like Isaiah, Daniel, Micah and the rest. Israel became a nation 1870 years later in 1945. My conclusion: Christianity runs on decoding mysteries not semantics. Since you are a Bible enthusiast, search for the word 'mystery', and read the texts contextually. You will learn so much and have your answer. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by doffman: 1:12pm On Feb 26, 2025 |
Antlislaam:Pagan 🤣 is even ashamed of his own talk . No be you confess that you are a pagan ? You must bear your cross and people must know that you are a pagan . 🤣 Oya , take am: Pagan 🤣🤣 you will edit your name tire and it must be tagged to you by force ahaaaa. Pagan , so you yourself was even ashamed of your self 🤣🤣🤣. Why are you hiding your name from what you claimed ahaaa. You must take it by fire by fire 🔥 : Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 : “My God that was nailed is alive till eternity” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote : “Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God? Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 A confused pagan cannot be taken serious |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by doffman: 1:26pm On Feb 26, 2025 |
delkuf:Read that bolded part . You previously said Jesus is your god and now you claimed he is son to another God . Since you did not believe in oneness of supreme God , it means you are a pagan. Remember , I did not initially call you pagan , I was very sure I asked you your God first before I start calling you pagan . In fact I don’t like calling people pagan until I get proof . In fact , I already have one confirm pagan in this forum and he even confess to me directly to me . Anybody that does not belief in oneness of God or worshiping another God is a certified pagan. This is what real Jesus said from your Bible : Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only. Luke 4:8 My concern is why did you leave the God of Jesus and chose Jesus as your God . Quran 19:36 Jesus also declared,˺ “Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.” This is what we have been telling you people, the real Jesus preaches same thing with with other previous prophets . Anywhere you see blood 🩸sacrifice, just know it is a lie and it was those part of lies imported into corrupted bibles . We Muslims know the true word of Jesus . The Quran , gospel of Moses and other scriptures always confirming each other . The basic and foundation to enter heaven is to first know your True God and know that is only One and he is not depending on anyone to exist . |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by Ohyoudidnt: 9:04pm On Feb 26, 2025 |
MightySparrow:Maybe you can share one decoded mystery in Christendom to help me understand more. Israel becaume a nation around 1948 following a British mandate on a region historically known as Palestine. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by MightySparrow(op): 9:22pm On Feb 26, 2025 |
Ohyoudidnt:That is one of the misinterpreted prophecies by the expectant Israelites. Isaiah talked about it about 700 years before Christ came. He even talked about how nations would bring them back. Jesus now explained how they were going to be dispersed and how they were going to be gathered from all the ends of the earth. How the nation would be born in a single day. How strangers would join them as we see in Palestine today. Everything happened to details of prophecy. About the mysteries, all the types of the old testament are revealed in the new. I deliberately don't want to qoute scriptures. In understanding the prophecies of the Bible, knowledge of world history is essential. You will just discover that the Bible is a reasonable writ. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by Ohyoudidnt: 9:27am On Feb 27, 2025 |
MightySparrow:I am unable to agree wiith you that this was explicitly mentioned. On Palestine joining Israel it seems to be the reverse. We however shouldn't derail the subject of this thread |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by MightySparrow(op): 9:35am On Feb 27, 2025 |
Ohyoudidnt:Okay. I agree with you. |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by doffman: 1:53pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
Antlislaam:Pagan is ashamed of his paganism ooo😀 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you must be tagged and your name must be printed alongside your confession . Chief pagan , why shifting the post after you have been tutored . Pagan , Oya take your daily drug : Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 : “My God that was nailed is alive till eternity” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote : “Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God? Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 A pagan cannot be taken serious |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by doffman: 4:16pm On Feb 28, 2025 |
Antlislaam:Pagan , You must collect your pagan stamp by force 😀 Pagan , Oya take your daily drug : Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 : “My God that was nailed is alive till eternity” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote : “Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God? Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 A pagan cannot be taken serious
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| Re: Salvation In Islam by iamteegee(m): 6:31pm On Feb 28, 2025 |
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| Re: Salvation In Islam by doffman: 6:43pm On Feb 28, 2025 |
Antlislaam:Pagan himself , 🤣🤣 Pagan , take your drug: Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 : “My God that was nailed is alive till eternity” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote : “Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God? Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 A pagan cannot be taken serious |
| Re: Salvation In Islam by doffman: 8:27pm On Mar 01, 2025 |
Antlislaam:Pagan , Oya take your drug : Pagan , It is your sticker , it must be sticked to your accrues this forum 🤣 Chief pagan , why shifting the post after you have been tutored . Pagan , Oya take your daily drug : Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 : “My God that was nailed is alive till eternity” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote : “Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God? Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father” Said by Antlislaam 🎤 A pagan cannot be taken serious |
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