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immaculatesense:
He is not arguing with you that the Father is not different from Jesus. The name Jehovah is the same as the 'theos' (God) in Greek and Jesus is god thereby he is Jehovah. Jehovah is not the specific name of the Father, the Father has no name that his know to man at the moment. All those names in the old testament were only titles and names given to god based on the experiences with him. He Father clearly states that 'He is who he is" ( I am who I am). And only Jesus knows the Fathers name and will reveal it at the last day to his special people.
Revelation 3:12
[12]All who are victorious will become pillars in the Temple of my God, and they will never have to leave it. And I will write on them the name of my God, and they will be citizens in the city of my God—the new Jerusalem that comes down from heaven from my God. And I will also write on them my new name.

So, when anyone tells you Jesus is Jehovah, he is telling you Jesus is god and not Jesus is the Father and yes the Father is greater than his son (Jesus).
Thanks.

Jehovah is same as theos keh

Baba go do your research stop spewing wrong info here.

immaculatesense:
I am a child of God, my father has adopted me. I have his seed, his nature and his spirit. He has plans for me to be with him forever. I am equal with God.
John 10:34-36
[34]Jesus replied, “It is written in your own Scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people, ‘I say, you are gods!’
[35]And you know that the Scriptures cannot be altered. So if those people who received God’s message were called ‘gods,’
[36]why do you call it blasphemy when I say, ‘I am the Son of God’? After all, the Father set me apart and sent me into the world.

That is Jesus speak. I have the nature of my father (god). I am god.
Thanks.

Alright whatever makes you happy.

Truthseeker10:
You are being mischievous by adding "purity". Simply ask me if 99% of gold is pure.

My answer is that 1 percent is not pure. Therefore the gold is pure 99% and impure1%.

Therefore I am correct If I say that the gold is pure and impure.

According to your logic above, the Bible is both truthful 99% and false 1%. The Bible is both true and false.

So The rest of the world is wrong in calling 99% gold pure. You are the strange one here. And of course, you think 99% pure water is impure. Let's Just say you see the world differently from the rest of us.

cornelboy:
Jehovah is same as theos keh

Baba go do your research stop spewing wrong info here.

Me, research?
You don't know me.

Okay.
If Yahweh (Jehovah) is Hebrew, What is the Greek equivalent?

Thanks.

immaculatesense:
Me, research?
You don't know me.

Okay.
If Yahweh (Jehovah) is Hebrew, What is the Greek equivalent?

Thanks.

The Hebrew equivalent for "theos" should be El/Elohim.

I won't do your research for you.

tctrills:
So The rest of the world is wrong in calling 99% gold pure. You are the strange one here. And of course, you think 99% pure water is impure. Let's Just say you see the world differently from the rest of us.

So am I wrong if I say that A 99% gold is both pure and impure?

tctrills:
So The rest of the world is wrong in calling 99% gold pure. You are the strange one here. And of course, you think 99% pure water is impure. Let's Just say you see the world differently from the rest of us.

Look at the information from the rest of the world below.

cornelboy:
1 Corinthians 8:6 explains that the one God for us (Christians) is the Father, compare with Deuteronomy 6:4, which shows that Yahweh (Jehovah) is the one God, no other person.
Even Jesus confirms that the Father is the one true God at John 17:3

We clearly see that the bible teaches that Jehovah is the God and he's the Father.

I can't catch up with your intelligence ser

Don't worry, let me make it so simple so you will catch up

Yes, the Father is the One True God and so is the Son just as you believe the Father is the one Saviour and so is his Son. Apply the same knowledge to this.
The Bible tells us that Jehovah is the Everlasting Father but yes he has a Father. Let's Look at some verses to learn what the bible says about Jehovah.
Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them.

Here Jehovah tells Moses that he came to Abraham using someone else name and not his name Jehovah. This clearly tells you that they are two very different people. The bible can't be more direct than this.

Even David in Psalm 110:1
The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

David had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Jesus was his Lord.

Let's look at many other examples

Jehovah Is the Lord of the Sabbath
Genesis 2:2-3 – "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it."

Jehovah established the Sabbath at Creation.
Exodus 20:10-11 – "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God... For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

The Sabbath belongs to Jehovah.
Isaiah 58:13 – "If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honorable..."

Jehovah calls the Sabbath 'My holy day.'

Jesus Christ Is the Lord of the Sabbath
Matthew 12:8 – "For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day."
Mark 2:28 – "Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."
Luke 6:5 – "And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."
If the Sabbath belongs to Jehovah, yet Jesus declares Himself the Lord of the Sabbath, then Jesus is Jehovah.

. Both Jesus and Jehovah Are Pierced
Jehovah Says He Will Be Pierced:

Zechariah 12:10 – "And I (Jehovah) will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced."
Jesus Was Pierced:

John 19:37 – "And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced."
Jehovah declares He will be pierced, but in the New Testament, Jesus is the one pierced—proving that Jesus is Jehovah.

Both Jesus and Jehovah Receive the Same Worship in Heaven
Jehovah Is Worshiped in Heaven:

Revelation 4:8-11 – "And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come... Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power."
Jesus Is Worshiped in Heaven:

Revelation 5:11-14 – "And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing... And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshiped him that liveth forever and ever."
If only Jehovah is to be worshiped, yet Jesus receives equal worship, then Jesus is Jehovah.

Both Jesus and Jehovah Are Lord of Lords
Jehovah:

Deuteronomy 10:17 – "For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible."
Psalm 136:3 – "O give thanks to the Lord of lords: for his mercy endureth forever."
Jesus:

Revelation 17:14 – "These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings."
Revelation 19:16 – "And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."
If Jehovah alone is Lord of Lords, yet Jesus is called Lord of Lords, then Jesus is Jehovah.

Both Jesus and Jehovah Judge the World
Jehovah the Judge:

Joel 3:12 – "Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about."
Jesus the Judge:

John 5:22 – "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son."
Acts 17:31 – "Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead."
If Jehovah is the only Judge, yet Jesus is the Judge of all, then Jesus must be Jehovah.

Both Jesus and Jehovah Are the Shepherd of God's People
Jehovah the Shepherd:

Psalm 23:1 – "The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want."
Ezekiel 34:11-12 – "For thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out."
Jesus the Shepherd:

John 10:11 – "I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep."
Hebrews 13:20 – "Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep."
If Jehovah is the only Shepherd, yet Jesus is also the Shepherd, then Jesus must be Jehovah.

Both Jesus and Jehovah Created the World
Jehovah Created the Universe:

Isaiah 44:24 – "Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself."
Jesus Created the Universe:

John 1:1-3 – "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."
Colossians 1:16-17 – "For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible."
If Jehovah created everything alone, yet Jesus is the Creator of all things, then Jesus must be Jehovah.

Both Jesus and Jehovah Are Worshiped as God
Jehovah Commands Worship:

Deuteronomy 6:13 – "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."
Isaiah 42:8 – "I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another."
Jesus Receives Worship:

Matthew 14:33 – "Then they that were in the ship came and worshiped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God."
John 20:28 – "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
Hebrews 1:6 – "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."
If Jehovah alone is to be worshiped, yet Jesus is rightfully worshiped, then Jesus must be Jehovah.

Both Jesus and Jehovah Are the First and the Last
Jehovah:

Isaiah 44:6 – "Thus saith the Lord (Yahweh), the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."
Jesus:

Revelation 1:17-18 – "Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore."
Revelation 22:13 – "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."
Jehovah alone is the First and the Last, yet Jesus takes this same title, proving He is Jehovah.

Both Jesus and Jehovah Are the Only Savior
Jehovah as the Only Savior:

Isaiah 43:11 – "I, even I, am the Lord (Yahweh), and beside me there is no savior."
Jesus as the Only Savior:

Acts 4:12 – "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
Titus 2:13 – "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ."
If Jehovah is the only Savior, yet Jesus is also the only Savior, then Jesus must be Jehovah.

Both Jesus and Jehovah Are Called "I AM"
Jehovah in the Old Testament:

Exodus 3:14 – "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."
Jehovah declares His eternal self-existence with the name “I AM”.
Jesus in the New Testament:

John 8:58 – "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."
Jesus applies Jehovah’s "I AM" name to Himself, showing His eternal nature.
Jesus claims the divine name "I AM," identifying Himself as Jehovah.

Truthseeker10:
Look at the information from the rest of the world below.

the photo you posted just proved me right. It talked about the purity level of Gold. And it never said gold with 99% impurity is impure thanks for the image. It clearly states that in the case of Gold, Purity is measured in %. We say 99% purity and not 1% impurity for a reason

Truthseeker10:
So am I wrong if I say that A 99% gold is both pure and impure?

Please can you find a source that calls 99% gold impure?

cornelboy:
The Hebrew equivalent for "theos" should be El/Elohim.

I won't do your research for you.

You just box yourself sir.
If the Hebrew word for theos is El or Elohim (Which I agree)


Then the question you left unanswered is WHAT IS YAHWEH (JEHOVAH) IN GREEK? SIMPLE.

Abi the Jews abandoned Yahweh (Jehovah) when they started speaking adopted Greek Aramaic?
What is YAHWEH IN GREEK? OOOO

tctrills:
the photo you posted just proved me right. It talked about the purity level of Gold. And it never said gold with 99% impurity is impure thanks for the image. It clearly states that in the case of Gold, Purity is measured in %. We say 99% purity and not 1% impurity for a reason

Are you drunk? What are you saying in the bold above?


🤣🤣🤣does the image say that 99% gold is impure?

Truthseeker10:
Are you drunk? What are you saying in the bold above?


🤣🤣🤣does the image say that 99% gold is impure?

I am saying that your image shows I am correct.

tctrills:
I am saying that your image shows I am correct.

🤣🤣🤣According to the image, is 99% gold impure? Yes or no?

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣According to the image, is 99% gold impure? Yes or no?

It never said so. Or will you paste where it called 99% gold impure? You got the answer that "In a sense" that means the argument can be made. Its no definite answer.
You keep asking me for a yes or no answer but even your post could not provide that.

tctrills:
It never said so. Or will you paste where it called 99% gold impure? You got the answer that "In a sense" that means the argument can be made. Its no definite answer.
You keep asking me for a yes or no answer but even your post could not provide that.

I'm done with you.....you can argue with AI bot.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣According to the image, is 99% gold impure? Yes or no?

It's important to understand that "pure" gold can be described in a couple of ways, and legal definitions can vary by region. Here's a breakdown:

Understanding Gold Purity:

24 Karat:
This is considered pure gold. However, in reality, it's very difficult to achieve 100% purity.  
Therefore, 24 karat gold is generally understood to be 99.9% or 99.99% pure.
Fineness:
This is another way to express gold purity, in parts per thousand.  
999 or 999.9 fineness is generally accepted as very high purity, essentially "pure" gold.  
Legal Acceptance:

The legal minimum standard for an item to be called "gold" varies by country. For example:
In the United States, 10 karat is the legal minimum.  
In some European countries, it might be 9 karat or even 8 karat.  
 
Investment-Grade Gold:
For investment-grade gold bars, a minimum fineness of 995 is often required, though 999.9 is more common.
Key Takeaways:

While 24 karat (99.9% or 99.99%) is considered "pure" gold, legal definitions of what constitutes "gold" vary.  
It is important to understand the difference between Karats, and fineness.
When investing in gold bullion, pay close attention to the fineness rating.
I hope this clarifies the concept of gold purity.

cornelboy:
Jehovah is same as theos keh

Baba go do your research stop spewing wrong info here.

I just did the research and provided you with the source. Or do you mean something else when you say research?

Truthseeker10:
I'm done with you.....you can argue with AI bot.

So your answer says technically not definitely. That simply means that saying 99% gold is pure is also technically correct. yes or no. So you choose to see it as impure and I choose to see it as pure. how am I wrong?

tctrills:
So your answer says technically not definitely. That simply means that saying 99% gold is pure is also technically correct. yes or no. So you choose to see it as impure and I choose to see it as pure. how am I wrong?

So if I say the bible is impure, am I wrong?

tctrills:
I just did the research and provided you with the source. Or do you mean something else when you say research?

This wasn't for you

Truthseeker10:
So if I say the bible is impure, am I wrong?

To my view you are because I come from the school of thought that 99% is pure. It depends on how you see it. I see it differently from you.

tctrills:
To my view you are because I come from the school of thought that 99% is pure. It depends on how you see it. I see it differently from you.

🤣🤣🤣

cornelboy:
This wasn't for you

Oh sorry. But If you feel I gave too much at once, I could break it down.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣

Your own post used the phase, "in a sense" meaning it could be argued. I am arguing against not for. So we are not on the same side.
Whenever you see that phase, it means an argument can be made.
So are you arguing that the bible is false?

tctrills:
Your own post used the phase, "in a sense" meaning it could be argued. I am arguing against not for. So we are not on the same side.
Whenever you see that phase, it means an argument can be made.
So are you arguing that the bible is false?

Oga argue with the AI bot. I've made my point.

Truthseeker10:
Oga argue with the AI bot. I've made my point.

Even you know you are unsuccessful. A hundred questions and still you ended where you began. If this is your measure of success then your life most be mediocre.

tctrills:
Even you know you are unsuccessful. A hundred questions and still you ended where you began. If this is your measure of success then your life most be mediocre.

🤣🤣🤣cry harder.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣cry harder.

Lol, if they ask you, what point did you make after hours of questioning you know you got nothing.
I am happy you finally saw you were going no where and ended your stupidity.

tctrills:
Lol, if they ask you, what point did you make after hours of questioning you know you got nothing.
I am happy you finally saw you were going no where and ended your stupidity.

Cry harder🤣🤣🤣

Truthseeker10:
Cry harder🤣🤣🤣

No wahala. Try again next time. I am always here to give you answers.
Have fun child.

tctrills:
No wahala. Try again next time. I am always here to give you answers.
Have fun child.

I will be here to engage you if i see you preach from the bible that contradicts itself.