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Maeve7:
WASHINGTON—Twenty one federal employees who had been working with Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency resigned, writing in a letter that they wouldn’t offer their expertise to overhaul the government if it meant undermining essential services.

“We will not use our skills as technologists to compromise core government systems, jeopardize Americans’ sensitive data, or dismantle critical public services,” the former employees wrote on Tuesday in a letter addressed to White House chief of staff Susie Wiles. “We will not lend our expertise to carry out or legitimize DOGE’s actions.”

Source: WSJ

Well well , proof that you been taken for a ride to nowhere by WSJ or you deliberately left out the reasons they left .....
The staffers who resigned had worked for what was once known as the United States Digital Service, but said their duties were being integrated into DOGE. Their former office, the USDS, was established under President Barack Obama after the botched rollout of Healthcare.gov, the web portal that millions of Americans use to sign up for insurance plans through the Democrat’s signature health care law.

They were Obama orphans . USDS was formed by Obama to fix the Obamacare website, later roles expanded to providing ICT support roles within the federal govt. Did they support IRS and have access to SSNs? Noone knows , noone complained. DOGE replaces 300 strong staff USDS with a fresh mandate to root out govt wastage.

Summary. You have been had, don't get mad at me , shoot the messenger instead

Noble peace prize for alienating the USA from her allies? lol

@bold, You’ve asked this question before and I gave you a lengthy response you didn’t acknowledge or maybe didn’t see.

You want me to explain again why I don’t support a man who lies with his every breath(as you guys chose to ignore or explain away the obvious lies), a man who is a rapist, jokes about assaulting women, is currently joking about displacing Palestinians in Gaza so that he can profit?

You want my explanation on why I don’t support a man who signed a bill to remove women, female (among others) from NIH scientific research funding ?
Do you want explanation on why I don’t support a party whose ultimate success will mean that I will have no rights in the country I live in?

A man who’s actively destroying our democracy by attempting to bypass elected officials at any chance he gets? I didn’t sign up to live under a king. I would’ve have moved to Saudi Arabia if that’s why I wanted.

Everything might be good and dandy where you are looking from over the pond so you feel you can support him because it won’t affect you.

But please don’t say I have a personal grudge against him as if it’s somehow unwarranted.

The list is long and endless of what makes him a terrible person and even worse leader.

I don’t like what the Republican Party of today stands for but another candidate would’ve had me just as uninterested in politics as I’ve always been and just hope for better next time.

Not Trump.

Nothing he does needs explaining on why they’re bad actions. They just are. And at each turn he tries to do even worse than he already did.

descarado:
Trump strongly deserve a peace Nobel peace.
He doesn't merit it, who said so?
Democrats?
Under what criteria actually.
If Obama that didn't do anything but caused chaos can get it, wonder why Trump can't or is it the democrats controlled media narratives again.
Everything that Trump do is bad.



And oh, I think you personally have a personal vendetta against trump.
Care to share.



I have been sharing my vendetta against Obama since with africal as the focal point. Biden, I don't care about him at all.
I

basilico:
Well well , proof that you been taken for a ride to nowhere by WSJ or you deliberately left out the reasons they left .....
The staffers who resigned had worked for what was once known as the United States Digital Service, but said their duties were being integrated into DOGE. Their former office, the USDS, was established under President Barack Obama after the botched rollout of Healthcare.gov, the web portal that millions of Americans use to sign up for insurance plans through the Democrat’s signature health care law.

They were Obama orphans . USDS was formed by Obama to fix the Obamacare website, later roles expanded to providing ICT support roles within the federal govt. Did they support IRS and have access to SSNs? Noone knows , noone complained. DOGE replaces 300 strong staff USDS with a fresh mandate to root out govt wastage.

Summary. You have been had, don't get mad at me , shoot the messenger instead

I don’t do conversations that kill white matter. Look for someone else.

descarado:
I had a bet he will be nominated during his first term.
Never in the history of usa had there been a world without war during a any presidency. All the Arabs came together for the first term.

Trump may be brutal and radical in his approach to things but the most important thing which the world needs most and he got it 100% was world peace.
Just like when obasanjo handed over to civilian rule 1979. Any other thing is secondary in the book of record in Nigeria during that time.

Trump’s tenure was recognised by world peace but hateful Americans don't like world peace.
He's stopping war in Ukraine,some are mad.
Mad that it's not their loved ones that are victims of this war. A single picture of a maimed farmer somewhere in Nigeria that I saw have been haunting me everyday. The niece of the farmer who is here in uk is working her ass off to raise money to send him to India. She is undergoing therapy yet she was not the sick one. She is so stressed. Have 2 very young kids. Everybody is waiting on her. She is in nigeria as i type. Those that have never seen the effect of war have guts to say something against this.
Some people have the sadist gene in their dna
Good grammar do not save lives. Life should be precious. Egos of human has destroyed this world.

Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize several times. He lost . He has a 2025 nomination

2018
Winners: Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad
Reason: For their efforts to end the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war and armed conflict.
2020
Winner: World Food Programme (WFP)
Reason: For its efforts to combat hunger and improve conditions for peace in conflict-affected areas.
2021
Winners: Maria Ressa and Dmitry Muratov
Reason: For their efforts to safeguard freedom of expression, which is a precondition for democracy and lasting peace.

Clearly he lost to more deserving winners . Tell me another lie.
I've added some meat to the bones

Trump list of Nominations and Reasons
2018
Nominator: A Norwegian lawmaker.
Reason: For his efforts in denuclearizing North Korea and promoting peace on the Korean Peninsula.
2020
Nominator: A far-right Norwegian politician.
Reason: For his role in brokering the normalization of relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, which was seen as a significant step towards peace in the Middle East.
2021
Nominator: Another Norwegian lawmaker.
Reason: Again, for his involvement in the Israel-UAE peace deal, highlighting his diplomatic efforts in the region


I think they thought he was too rich to accept the $1 million purse given to the winner.

descarado:
Explain yourself. Don't want to have a wrong assumption.

I've explained myself. If you don't understand, ask a direct question.

raumdeuter:
Obama was nominated 9months into his presidency

Scammers, he went ahead to destroy the middle East n unleashed illegal migration

....upon reviewing the contract in detail, Zelensky and his aides discovered that there were no real security guarantees to be found.

Instead, the contract was reportedly more exploitative than the conditions imposed on Germany after World War I, expecting Ukraine to relinquish huge quantities of oil, gas and mineral resources as a payment for US aid already provided.

https://www.nairaland.com/8352985/zelensky-screams-u.s-envoy-trying

And we all should know how those conditions resulted in WW2.

Maeve7:
I don’t do conversations that kill white matter. Look for someone else.

My opinion of you summarized.
"Never play chess with a pigeon. The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over, then shits all over the board, and struts around like it won."

raumdeuter:
How much has US given in money and ammunition and how much of it is payable back by Ukraine?

You are too dumb to understand international politics anyway, Now the Ukrainian president is coming to sign the mineral deal with the US which the Biden admin never though they should have rather just throw money out like drunk sailors

You have such a morronic way of thinking and its affecting your entire life

If you want the numbers look them up yourself.
Should have done that before you even started with your claim.

You play this game often.
You say something made up
I call you out for making it up
You tell me I'm wrong
I show you facts proving you made it up
You do the Captain Intellectual Dishonesty gaslighting thing.

I'm skipping all that.

budaatum:
The bold is what's changed under dump. Usually, they'd go to a country and rape them, but this time are being upfront about it.

Sending American troops to Ukraine will likely turn out as sending troops to Afghanistan. Hopefully, Europe will advise on the deal.

But that is a difference, I think there is value in that propaganda.
I think at times Power is a 0 sum game.
And as an American I understand sometimes the need to "win" in that way.
I couldn't be President, but understand the tough choices.

Trump is just breaking that carefully crafted paradigm like a bull in a china shop.
And we are going to be worse for it.

raumdeuter:
How much has US given in money and ammunition and how much of it is payable back by Ukraine?

You are too dumb to understand international politics anyway, Now the Ukrainian president is coming to sign the mineral deal with the US which the Biden admin never though they should have rather just throw money out like drunk sailors

You have such a morronic way of thinking and its affecting your entire life

The cognitive dissonance from Republicans is always amazing.
Only works when you aren't responsible for execution and leadership.

1.) The mineral deal is important for the US. Trump did what Biden couldn't and signed it with Zelensky
2.) Biden wasted our money by given Ukraine all these weapons to defend itself and all these minerals from Russia.

IjeBos:
The cognitive dissonance from Republicans is always amazing.
Only works when you aren't responsible for execution and leadership.

1.) The mineral deal is important for the US. Trump did what Biden couldn't and signed it with Zelensky
2.) Biden wasted our money by given Ukraine all these weapons to defend itself and all these minerals from Russia.

EU countries lent Zelensky aid under conditions that Ukraine would repay. Xibiden just sent them cold hard cash and military equipment with no advance agreement Ukraine would repay.
Spot the difference, however it's too tall an order to a data analyst MS Excel specialist who can't even do a simple webscrap , and can't fathom out where the sun don't shine when he is in an upright position.

Seems like a brewing scandal.
Looks like a Trump staffer intentionally changed a biden order that awarded Musk a 400k contract to a 400 million dolla contract.
So, who changed the document and was it actually backdated to seem like Biden's admin was the one who awarded Musk a 400 million contract?

When asked about it, the State Department issued a statement saying the purchase is now on hold with no plans of fulfilling the contract, pointing out that talks with Tesla began during the Biden administration.

But NPR has obtained a State Department document detailing that Biden's State Department planned to spend just $483,000 in the 2025 fiscal year on buying electric vehicles and $3 million for supporting equipment, like charging stations. It represented less than 1% of the hundreds of millions of dollars likely destined for Tesla vehicles after the Trump administration quietly revised a State Department procurement document.

The vast discrepancy in the numbers raises the question: Was it an error or a deliberate action?

A former Biden White House official familiar with the State Department's plans told NPR the steps taken to advance $400 million worth of government business to Tesla appear to be intentional.

"I don't think this is a clerical error. It was likely someone who is new in [the] State [Department] who decided, 'OK, we're gonna do this with Tesla,'" said the former official, who was not authorized to speak about the matter.

The person said the State Department and Tesla had agreed during the Biden administration to conduct research about armoring electric vehicles, but no money had been set aside to purchase armored Teslas for the State Department. A total budget of $483,000 had been approved to buy light-duty EVs as possible State Department vehicles. That plan was moving forward as recently as November 2024.

budaatum:
And we all should know how those conditions resulted in WW2.

Oga leave the haters and their propaganda. Now you are implying the deal will lead to ww3?

Watch what happens next n how Russia will start Losing ground in Ukraine if they don't stop the war.

When it comes to things like this? I am 95% spot on because I don't play all or nothing game

IjeBos:
The cognitive dissonance from Republicans is always amazing.
Only works when you aren't responsible for execution and leadership.

1.) The mineral deal is important for the US. Trump did what Biden couldn't and signed it with Zelensky
2.) Biden wasted our money by given Ukraine all these weapons to defend itself and all these minerals from Russia.

Did Biden have any agreement on minerals with Ukraine you morron?

Trump signed a deal where the US got trillions worth of minerals for spending money to defend Ukraine instead of throwing American money away for nothing

IjeBos:
Seems like a brewing scandal.
Who changed the document and was it backdated to seem like Biden's admin was the one who awarded Musk a 400 Billion contract?

So why did Trump admin halt it? Why do you guys love lies? This deal was made known since may 2024. Stop spreading lies.

bemeruca:
Oga leave the haters and their propaganda. Now you are implying the deal will lead to ww3?

Watch what happens next n how Russia will start Losing ground in Ukraine if they don't stop the war.

When it comes to things like this? I am 95% spot on because I don't play all or nothing game

Russia probably is tired of the war and Trump deal will give them an out without denting their reputation

The mineral are probably in Russian conquered land already, So for Zelenky its either Russia or US taking the mineral. Russia takes it and give nothing back, US takes it and give you money

bemeruca:
So why did Trump admin halt it? Why do you guys love lies? This deal was made known since may 2024. Stop spreading lies.

Bullshit in, Bullshit out.
Well with your brain it may just be:
Anything in,Bullshit out.

When asked about it, the State Department issued a statement saying the purchase is now on hold with no plans of fulfilling the contract, pointing out that talks with Tesla began during the Biden administration.

But NPR has obtained a State Department document detailing that Biden's State Department planned to spend just $483,000 in the 2025 fiscal year on buying electric vehicles and $3 million for supporting equipment, like charging stations. It represented less than 1% of the hundreds of millions of dollars likely destined for Tesla vehicles after the Trump administration quietly revised a State Department procurement document.

The vast discrepancy in the numbers raises the question: Was it an error or a deliberate action?

A former Biden White House official familiar with the State Department's plans told NPR the steps taken to advance $400 million worth of government business to Tesla appear to be intentional.

"I don't think this is a clerical error. It was likely someone who is new in [the] State [Department] who decided, 'OK, we're gonna do this with Tesla,'" said the former official, who was not authorized to speak about the matter.

The person said the State Department and Tesla had agreed during the Biden administration to conduct research about armoring electric vehicles, but no money had been set aside to purchase armored Teslas for the State Department. A total budget of $483,000 had been approved to buy light-duty EVs as possible State Department vehicles. That plan was moving forward as recently as November 2024.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/24/nx-s1-5305269/tesla-state-department-elon-musk-trump

IjeBos:
If you want the numbers look them up yourself.
Should have done that before you even started with your claim.

You play this game often.
You say something made up
I call you out for making it up
You tell me I'm wrong
I show you facts proving you made it up
You do the Captain Intellectual Dishonesty gaslighting thing.

I'm skipping all that.

You brought up the numbers and again you are unable to find the backup for the numbers
Dumbo you see how foolish you are? Which is why every smart person owns your asss all day

raumdeuter:
You brought up the numbers and again you are unable to find the backup for the numbers
Dumbo you see how foolish you are? Which is why every smart person owns your asss all day

I see your dementia is kicking in.
You brought up the numbers.
So you should be able to tell us how much the US gave Ukraine without guarantees.

raumdeuter:
Maybe Trump cares more about what Americans think than what Ukrainians think

Before Trump, They probably will see Americans as suckers who will give that much without any guarantees
Today they will see Americans as smarter people who are making a reasonable deal not just drunk sailors throwing money away

Will Ukraine ever do that type of pre Trump deal with any country? throw money at them without anything in return?

IjeBos:
Bullshit in, Bullshit out.
Well with your brain it may just be:
Anything in,Bullshit out.



https://www.npr.org/2025/02/24/nx-s1-5305269/tesla-state-department-elon-musk-trump

Dude stop lying, this is well known. Do you have agency at all?

We know Biden's electric cars mandate which trump stopped. Biden wanted the federal agencies to move to electric cars.

You can lie all you want

IjeBos:
I see your dementia is kicking in.
You brought up the numbers.
So you should be able to tell us how much the US gave Ukraine without guarantees.

Anyone and everyone knows that US was giving billions to Ukraine, It was your demented asss who claimed part of the money was payable back without any figure to back it

raumdeuter:
Russia probably is tired of the war and Trump deal will give them an out without denting their reputation

The mineral are probably in Russian conquered land already, So for Zelenky its either Russia or US taking the mineral. Russia takes it and give nothing back, US takes it and give you money

They have to leave the war with dignity. Ukraine should be ready to make concessions

cococandy:
Noble peace prize for alienating the USA from her allies? lol

@bold, You’ve asked this question before and I gave you a lengthy response you didn’t acknowledge or maybe didn’t see.

You want me to explain again why I don’t support a man who lies with his every breath(as you guys chose to ignore or explain away the obvious lies), a man who is a rapist, jokes about assaulting women, is currently joking about displacing Palestinians in Gaza so that he can profit?

You want my explanation on why I don’t support a man who signed a bill to remove women, female (among others) from NIH scientific research funding ?
Do you want explanation on why I don’t support a party whose ultimate success will mean that I will have no rights in the country I live in?

A man who’s actively destroying our democracy by attempting to bypass elected officials at any chance he gets? I didn’t sign up to live under a king. I would’ve have moved to Saudi Arabia if that’s why I wanted.

Everything might be good and dandy where you are looking from over the pond so you feel you can support him because it won’t affect you.

But please don’t say I have a personal grudge against him as if it’s somehow unwarranted.

The list is long and endless of what makes him a terrible person and even worse leader.

I don’t like what the Republican Party of today stands for but another candidate would’ve had me just as uninterested in politics as I’ve always been and just hope for better next time.

Not Trump.

Nothing he does needs explaining on why they’re bad actions. They just are. And at each turn he tries to do even worse than he already did.

Who are the American allies?

When you talk about American allies, I'm hoping Africa is included in it.

Well, if you hate American trump of today, you can leave and come back after 4 yrs.

I don't like buhari nor tinubu. My criticism of their govt is minimal as I just don't want to align with them. I waited buhari out. I will wait tinubu out too. I don't go about attacking him every minute I come online. Whether I like it or not, he is my Nigerian president and I should give him that honour.
So if you hate trump that bad,wait it out or pack and go to where you like. After4 yrs come back.
It's easy.

bemeruca:
They have to leave the war with dignity. Ukraine should be ready to make concessions

Ukraine have no choice. Zelensky should get out already.
We talk about war but not the lasting effect of war

bemeruca:
Dude stop lying, this is well known. Do you have agency at all?

We know Biden's electric cars mandate which trump stopped. Biden wanted the federal agencies to move to electric cars.

You can lie all you want

Claim: The 400 Million Dollar Tesla deal originated in the Biden Administration

NPR: It's a lie. We've seen the original document. The deal was for 400k. It was changed to 400 Million
The State Dept. employee who was there when the deal was made: It's a lie. The deal was for 400k. The Trump state department changed the document.
Trump State Department: No comment. While quietly changing the name of the contract to remove Tesla. Then just deleting it.
Bemeruca, who has never been to the US, but lies about that daily: It's true. The deal was in fact made in the Biden Administration. I've never seen the documents, but it is well know because I've heard it on my Right wing intertubes.

Hmm.. Who should I beleive?

raumdeuter:
Anyone and everyone knows that US was giving billions to Ukraine, It was your demented asss who claimed part of the money was payable back without any figure to back it

Since cognitive dissonance fills your mind, I'll just let you respond to your own post.
It'd be rather hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
Well, it's still rather hilarious.

As you once said, back up your numbers.

raumdeuter:
You brought up the numbers and again you are unable to find the backup for the numbers
Dumbo you see how foolish you are? Which is why every smart person owns your asss all day

IjeBos:
Claim: The 400 Million Dollar Tesla deal originated in the Biden Administration

NPR: It's a lie. We've seen the original document. The deal was for 400k. It was changed to 400 Million
The State Dept. employee who was there when the deal was made: It's a lie. The deal was for 400k. The Trump state department changed the document.
Trump State Department: No comment. While quietly changing the name of the contract to remove Tesla. Then just deleting it.
Bemeruca, who has never been to the US: It's true. The deal was in fact made in the Biden Administration. I've never seen the documents, but it is well know because I've heard it on my Right wing intertubes.

Hmm.. Who should I beleive?

It did which is why Rachel maddow who first reported it had to backtracked the next day after she breaks the news.

You are relying on one employee from the state department 😂😂

Are you well?

IjeBos:
Again very childish, immature and muddled understanding of Ukraine Funding and International Relations.

Some of the funding was loans that were repayable and a large portion went to the US to make US weapons,which was basically aid to US companies and US states making those weapons (largely Republican).
The US generally doesn't do anything without a selfish motivation.

When will you morron provide the amount that was repayable loan and how much has been sent total to Ukraine

raumdeuter:
When will you morron provide the amount that was repayable loan and how much has been sent total to Ukraine

IjeBos does not have agency. They lie as they go.

IjeBos:
But that is a difference, I think there is value in that propaganda.
I think at times Power is a 0 sum game.
And as an American I understand sometimes the need to "win" in that way.
I couldn't be President, but understand the tough choices.

Trump is just breaking that carefully crafted paradigm like a bull in a china shop.
And we are going to be worse for it.

The nature of American democracy is one president bulls and the next bears. Lets just hope the time in between is short.

bemeruca:
IjeBos does not have agency. They lie as they go.

He has no agency over his life which is why his life is in shambles