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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:30pm On Feb 28, 2025
Ibime:
That was a lie as usual. Zelensky never supported or campaigned for anyone. He travelled to US in Sept 2024 and met both parties. He toured an ammunition place with the democrats and also did a press conference with Trump at Trump tower. Vance is a liar with bad mind to characterise Zelensky trip as campaigning for opposition.
As part of his tour, he ended up having an interview where he called the VP "Too radical"

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/volodymyr-zelensky-has-a-plan-for-ukraines-victory

Does that qualify as campaigning for someone in your books?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:33pm On Feb 28, 2025
raumdeuter:
Zelensky in September last year during the campaign had an interview with the New Yorker newspaper where he called JD Vance "Too Radical"

Is this not intruding in the US elections, Now he has to face the person he called too radical to ask for aid
JD Vance said before that "he doesn't care what happens to Ukraine", so "too radical" as a response is very diplomatic.

Vance came in that meeting with bad mind to cause trouble. Anybody can see it in that video. He is overstepping his mark as VP where two Presidents are speaking. Zelensky wasn't even saying anything edgy, just pointing out that Putin always broke ceasefires and Vance started shouting asking for respect and thanks.

That's how Vance came to Europe shouting at Presidents and Prime Ministers, someone needs to tell him VP no be President. That's like Shettima shouting at Cameroon President, dem no born am well.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:34pm On Feb 28, 2025
Zelensky bleeped up badly. Bibi was dragged by Biden n he didn't behave like thime Zelensky is doing
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:39pm On Feb 28, 2025
Ibime:
JD Vance said before that "he doesn't care what happens to Ukraine.", so "too radical" as a response is very diplomatic.

Vance came in that meeting with bad mind to cause trouble. Anybody can see it in that video. He is overstepping his mark as VP where two Presidents are speaking. Zelensky wasn't even saying anything edgy just pointing out that Putin always broke ceasefires and Vance started shouting asking for respect and thanks.
When someone who called you a radical is coming to ask for aid and support, you are likely going with a bad mind to remind him of his past missteps

He came with a bad mind today because someone who is needing your help called him too radical 5months ago. If you call someone too radical, hope you dont go to them in 5months for aid an support

He was asked as a Senate candidate about Ukraine and e responded the right way. Is he wrong to say as a Senate candidate in Ohio, he doesnt care about Ukraine rather cares more about Ohio kids?

"I gotta be honest with you, I don't really care what happens to Ukraine one way or another," Vance said on an episode of Steve Bannon's War Room. "I do care about the fact that in my community right now the leading cause of death among 18-45-year-olds is Mexican fentanyl that's coming across the southern border."

"I'm sick of Joe Biden focusing on the border of a country I don't care about while he lets the border of his own country become a total war zone," Vance said.
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-candidate-jd-vance-i-dont-care-what-happens-ukraine-2022-2
When you are asking for help from a family and even if they invite you into husband wife spat, you make sure not to pick sides like calling one radical
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:41pm On Feb 28, 2025
Ibime:
JD Vance said before that "he doesn't care what happens to Ukraine", so "too radical" as a response is very diplomatic.

Vance came in that meeting with bad mind to cause trouble. Anybody can see it in that video. He is overstepping his mark as VP where two Presidents are speaking. Zelensky wasn't even saying anything edgy, just pointing out that Putin always broke ceasefires and Vance started shouting asking for respect and thanks.

That's how Vance came to Europe shouting at Presidents and Prime Ministers, someone needs to tell him VP no be President. That's like Shettima shouting at Cameroon President, dem no born am well.
So? He could keep quiet. His behaviour shows he is unhinged
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:42pm On Feb 28, 2025
raumdeuter:
When someone who called you a radical is coming to ask for aid and support, you are likely going with a bad mind to remind him of his past missteps

He came with a bad mind today because someone who is needing your help called him too radical 5months ago

He was asked as a Senate candidate about Ukraine and e responded the right way
Na normal ting, he is not a politician if he is not ready for one or two. Vance has been railing on Ukraine right from the first day of the invasion, forget this one you are quoting.

The way Zelensky closed mouth despite being disrespected is beyond Vance. Common "too radical" for first insulting Ukraine na him dey make am vibrate. We have seen "Governor Trudeau" and "Two Tier Kier" maintaining composure despite numerous insults toward them but Vance can't take common "too radical"
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:43pm On Feb 28, 2025
IjeBos:
And what does Europe do? Do you think they allow Russia to win? And if Europe gets involved what happens to NATO and article 5?
What happens with China and Taiwan if Russia wins?

Being America first isn't just in a singular moment.
Has Europe ever done anything n win without us?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 8:43pm On Feb 28, 2025
Ibime:
JD Vance said before that "he doesn't care what happens to Ukraine", so "too radical" as a response is very diplomatic.

Vance came in that meeting with bad mind to cause trouble. Anybody can see it in that video. He is overstepping his mark as VP where two Presidents are speaking. Zelensky wasn't even saying anything edgy, just pointing out that Putin always broke ceasefires and Vance started shouting asking for respect and thanks.

That's how Vance came to Europe shouting at Presidents and Prime Ministers, someone needs to tell him VP no be President. That's like Shettima shouting at Cameroon President, dem no born am well.
what is worse is they are normalizing this behavior where leaders behave like thugs.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:44pm On Feb 28, 2025
Trump call to Zelensky querying Burisma corruption that 100% happened led to his impeachment. Zelensky didn't support Trump then, then he goes to WH today in a combative mood. Trump trolled his dressing as soon they shook hands,“He’s all dressed up today,”

Trump has just tweeted that Zelensky is not for peace,he can come back later when he is ready for peace.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:46pm On Feb 28, 2025
Ibime:
Na normal ting, he is not a politician if he is not ready for one or two.

The way Zelensky closed mouth despite being disrespected is beyond Vance. Common "too radical" for first insulting Ukraine na him dey make am vibrate. We have seen "Governor Trudeau" and "Two Tier Kier" maintaining composure despite numerous insults toward them but Vance can't take common "too radical"
When you inject yourself into a conversation and call names then make sure you don't need their help
It will be like Trump calling Gov Trudeau and going to Canada to ask for help, Any mud Trudeau use to rub him will also be fair
Trump/Vance hold the power over Zelensky right now and he had a misstep earlier by picking sides in an election and its time for him to find out
Now how will he continue his war in the near term

A family is feeding you yet you go insert mouth in Husband wife fight in the same family. Then be ready to eat grass or find feeding elsewhere
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by COOL10(m): 8:47pm On Feb 28, 2025
I love it when the Kamalidiots and DEMONcrats cry. It's such a refreshing feeling. Knowing they're going to be crying every single day for at least the next 4 years gives me sooooo much joy. Thank you, President Trump 😄🤣
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:49pm On Feb 28, 2025
raumdeuter:
When you inject yourself into a conversation and call names then make sure you don't need their help

It will be like Trump calling Gov Trudeau and going to Canada to ask for help, Any mud Trudeau use to rub him will also be fair

Trump/Vance hold the power over Zelensky right now and he had a misstep earlier by picking sides in an election and its time for him to find out

Now how will he continue his war in the near term
That's how infants behave, not countries. Vance no mature and I see no insult in "too radical".
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:55pm On Feb 28, 2025
bemeruca:
Has Europe ever done anything n win without us?
You are really fuxed in the head.
You are not in America.
You have never been in America
You are not American.

There is no 'us'.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:59pm On Feb 28, 2025
IjeBos:
You are really fuxed in the head.
You are not in America.
You have never been in America
You are not American.

There is no 'us'.
What does that have to do with my location?
Its a simple question. And yes, I live in Washington
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:07pm On Feb 28, 2025
bemeruca:
What does that have to do with my location?
Its a simple question. And yes, I live in Washington
Yes, as I am sure you were in Washington this day when you claimed you had landed in the US.
You should see someone, you're head is broken.
It's not normal for anyone to lie about something like this the way you do.
Unless you're running some Romance 419 in which you have to internalize living in the US when you don't.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:09pm On Feb 28, 2025
IjeBos:
You are really fuxed in the head.
You are not in America.
You have never been in America
You are not American.

There is no 'us'.
Shakespeare "This man be fit for mental" was meant for you literally.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:11pm On Feb 28, 2025
Ibime:
That's how infants behave, not countries. Vance no mature and I see no insult in "too radical".
But you see aggression in how Vance spoke to him today?

If Zelensky can tell him he's radical in the middle of an election then Vance can tell him anything too
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:13pm On Feb 28, 2025
raumdeuter:
But you see aggression in how Vance spoke to him today?
Don't you?

Go and watch again and see who switched the tone of conversation and was raising voice
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:15pm On Feb 28, 2025
bemeruca:
What does that have to do with my location?
Its a simple question. And yes, I live in Washington
So your vote still don't count? grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:15pm On Feb 28, 2025
Ibime:
Don't you?

Go and watch again and see who switched the tone of conversation and was raising voice
If you think calling Vance radical in the middle of an election is okay but switching tone when he came to beg for support is where you draw the line

Don't you think it's inappropriate for a country's leader to call a candidate in another country's election a radical? Especially when you are likely to need their help later
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:18pm On Feb 28, 2025
raumdeuter:
If you think calling Vance radical in the middle of an election is okay but switching tone when he came to beg for support is where you draw the line
Go and read all Vance statements on Ukraine since 2022. People are dying and he was shytting on them. He get luck dem no curse him mama.

Vance is a nobody, a VP who should sit quietly and observe. I don't know why you are capping for him. Presidents are talking, he's commiting a flag on the play for a VP in the first instance nevermind anything else
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:20pm On Feb 28, 2025
Ibime:
Go and read all Vance statements on Ukraine since 2022. People are dying and he was shytting on them. He gets lucky dem no curse him mama.

Vance is a nobody, a VP who should sit quietly and observe. I don't know why you are capping for him. Presidents are talking, he's commiting a flag on the play for a VP in the first instance nevermind anything else
In 2022, Vance said he doesn't care about Ukraine but more about Ohio kids

What is wrong with that?

But a foreign president coming to call a candidate a radical when you'll need their help later
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:21pm On Feb 28, 2025
Russian Foreign Ministry: “It’s a miracle how Trump and Vance restrained themselves and didn’t punch this scumbag.”

Not confirmed but if below is true his goose is cooked.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:26pm On Feb 28, 2025
basilico:
Russian Foreign Ministry: “It’s a miracle how Trump and Vance restrained themselves and didn’t punch this scumbag.”

Not confirmed but if true his goose is cooked
All avenues with Trump and You seem to lead to Russia.
Especially your propaganda.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/14/ukraine-mp-linked-to-giuliani-charged-with-colluding-with-russia

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:28pm On Feb 28, 2025
raumdeuter:
In 2022, Vance said he doesn't care about Ukraine but more about Ohio kids

What is wrong with that?

But a foreign president coming to call a candidate a radical when you'll need their help later
Name a VP in Americas history that will raise voice on a visiting President. I don't care if it's Ayatollah Khomeini visiting. I don't know why you are defending nonsense.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:32pm On Feb 28, 2025

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:33pm On Feb 28, 2025
IjeBos:
All avenues with Trump and You seem to lead to Russia.
Especially your propaganda.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/14/ukraine-mp-linked-to-giuliani-charged-with-colluding-with-russia
Mumu, you hate this country so much move to Nigeria where you can continue your wizkid groupie fan club 😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:34pm On Feb 28, 2025
Ibime:
Name a VP in Americas history that will raise voice on a visiting President. I don't care if it's Ayatollah Khomeini visiting. I don't know why you are defending nonsense.
2022 Vance was not VP. Ibime, apply reasoning
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 9:35pm On Feb 28, 2025
grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 9:46pm On Feb 28, 2025
"Release of 'Epstein Files' sparks MAGA anger and disappointment

The White House made a big show of handing a bunch of conservative influencers binders labeled, "The Epstein Files: Phase 1.” But the whole stunt was a bust."
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 9:52pm On Feb 28, 2025
the toddler of the free world

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:55pm On Feb 28, 2025
IjeBos:
All avenues with Trump and You seem to lead to Russia.
Especially your propaganda.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/14/ukraine-mp-linked-to-giuliani-charged-with-colluding-with-russia
If Zelensky wasn't high on coke then he must be laundering $$$ back to congress . He had just met them they were all fawning over him.
He should have used an interpreter, it gives everyone a few moments to think before replying . Z accused Trump of using Russia talking points.
Trump said it clearly to his face . He gave him javelins. Not those spears athletees throw...... It's a fire and forget anti tank guided missile unlike kornets which the launcher steers towards target. Obama sent Zelensky blankets and bedsheets, Trump added.
He didn't give Z blankets and sheets. He gave him.weapons to kill Russians.So yes Trump is Putin stooge.
Amazing how you reason.
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