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Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:21pm On Mar 01, 2025
MightySparrow:
I have told you severally. Atheists do not believe in God. I call on my God he healed me, my wife and daughter of what medically, they say are incurable.
The same old story! undecided

Reasonableness has spoken:

Agbaka1997:
One thing I can attest about Jehovah witnesses is they don't follow the crowd.
No need of regurgitating usual delusion.

Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MightySparrow: 7:42pm On Mar 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The same old story! undecided

Reasonableness has spoken:



No need of regurgita

ting usual delusion.
You are bringing the same old rhetorics nah.

We are two parallel lines, we cannot agree on the same doctrines. I am a trinitarian, pentecostal. As the Bible puts it,'
Phil.3.3 - For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:57pm On Mar 01, 2025
MightySparrow:
You are bringing the same old rhetorics nah.
We are two parallel lines, we cannot agree on the same doctrines. I am a trinitarian, pentecostal. As the Bible puts it,'
Phil.3.3 - For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Wisdom has spoken:

Agbaka1997:
One thing I can attest about Jehovah witnesses is they don't follow the crowd.
Case settled! smiley
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MightySparrow: 8:04pm On Mar 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Wisdom has spoken:



Case settled! smiley
It is better to follow the crowd on the right path than few seeking short cutsgringringrin.
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by Truthseeker10: 3:38am On Mar 02, 2025
MightySparrow:
I like your name on Nairaland.
I hope you are living the name.

1Kgs.19.11 - And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
1Kgs.19.12 - And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.


For Elijah God was not in the wind, earthquake, and the melting of the mountain. If you ask Elijah, how does God reveal Himself, he would tell you, in a still small voice.
Can we now make Elijah's experience a doctrine? No.




Exod.19.9 - And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the LORD.
Exod.19.10 - And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,
Exod.19.11 - And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.
Exod.19.13 - There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount.
Exod.19.18 - And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.
Exod.19.19 - And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.
Exod.19.20 - And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.
Exod.19.21 - And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish.
Exod.19.22 - And let the priests also, which come near to the LORD, sanctify themselves, lest the LORD break forth upon them.
Exod.19.23 - And Moses said unto the LORD, The people cannot come up to mount Sinai: for thou chargedst us, saying, Set bounds about the mount, and sanctify it.
Exod.19.24 - And the LORD said unto him, Away, get thee down, and thou shalt come up, thou, and Aaron with thee: but let not the priests and the people break through to come up unto the LORD, lest he break forth upon them.


Exod.20.18 - And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
Exod.20.19 - And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

This people heard God once in a deafening voice, and requested never to appear before Him again.


In this encounter, if you asked Moses, he would probably tell you that God reveals Himself in fire that does not burn (Personal Truth); if you now asked the Israelites of his time, they would tell you God manifests in a deafening blast of noises. (Community truth)

If you now asked Solomon at the dedication of the Temple , be would tell you, God dwelt in a cloud. He even said it that God said, he would dwell in 'thick darkness '

From these, you can see that God is not confined to a personal whims and caprises, or a community like JWs silent worship or celestial dances or pentecostals hysterical dances or any other in any other parts of the world.

This is the reason I laugh when a denomination like yours set standard for God.
I laugh in Jehovah's Witnesses' paradise's language.gringringrin
If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire?

Explain Solomon's words in 1 kings 8:27, 30.
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by Truthseeker10: 3:39am On Mar 02, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Let's see whether you can reason.

Did God create energy 🤨?
True or False?

If True, then you have made ENERGY greater than your God, Jehovah!

By alluding to the fact that ENERGY IS EVERYWHERE BUT YOUR GOD, JEHOVAH OF JW, IS NOT EVERYWHERE!!!

If false then you are a liar, cause the bible will damn you.

Hence whichever you choose, you are damned!!!

A big dilemma is it not😂😂😂
Explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.
Why was God not in the wind fire and earthquake?

If God is omnipresent, explain this statement by you: "From basic school of thought, God is everywhere by substance but not necessary by presence".


is God omnisubstance or omnipresent?
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MightySparrow: 5:08am On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire?

Explain Solomon's words in 1 kings 8:27, 30.
SO you can decide where God can be or God takes orders from you?


Besides, what is the relevance of the reference you qouted, to be going to a none existent Temple to seek God?
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:25am On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire?
Explain Solomon's words in 1 kings 8:27, 30.
I don't argue further with them once the point has been made!

God is not in certain places so the Bible God has proved that He is not omnipresent. Period! smiley
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by Truthseeker10: 9:40am On Mar 02, 2025
MightySparrow:
SO you can decide where God can be or God takes orders from you?


Besides, what is the relevance of the reference you qouted, to be going to a none existent Temple to seek God?
I simply asked you.

If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire?

If God is everywhere, Explain Solomon's words in 1 kings 8:27, 30.
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MightySparrow: 12:58pm On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
I simply asked you.

If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire?

If God is everywhere, Explain Solomon's words in 1 kings 8:27, 30.
I already answered your question, if not satisfied, tell us the answer you expect.
1Kgs.8.27 - But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; much less this house that I have builded?
1Kgs.8.30 - And hearken thou to the supplication of thy servant, and of thy people Israel, when they shall pray toward this place: and hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place: and when thou hearest, forgive.

There is nothing to explain here. The writer was not sure of God's place. Heaven of HEAVENS cannot contain Him. Heaven His dwelling place. So what is your point?
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by Truthseeker10: 1:04pm On Mar 02, 2025
MightySparrow:
I already answered your question, if not satisfied, tell us the answer you expect.
1Kgs.8.27 - But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; much less this house that I have builded?
1Kgs.8.30 - And hearken thou to the supplication of thy servant, and of thy people Israel, when they shall pray toward this place: and hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place: and when thou hearest, forgive.

There is nothing to explain here. The writer was not sure of God's place. Heaven of HEAVENS cannot contain Him. Heaven His dwelling place. So what is your point?
🤣🤣🤣was the writer not sure or he was contradicting himself?

If you are sure that God is everywhere and are not unsure as the writer, you can tell us the dwelling place of God.

If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire according to 1 kings 19:11, 12?
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MightySparrow: 1:10pm On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣was the writer not sure or he was contradicting himself?

If you are sure that God is everywhere and are not unsure as the writer, you can tell us the dwelling place of God.

If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire according to 1 kings 19:11, 12?
He doesn't want to. Simple.
That someone was not in particular place at a particular time does not mean he cannot be in that place again. I am in my bed as I type , that doesn't I permanently stay in the bedroom and in bed. What is your point?
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by Truthseeker10: 1:12pm On Mar 02, 2025
MightySparrow:
He doesn't want to. Simple.
That someone was not in particular place at a particular time does not mean he cannot be in that place again. I am in my bed as I type , that doesn't I permanently stay in the bedroom and in bed. What is your point?
Funny analogy.....are you omnipresent?

🤣🤣🤣was the writer not sure or he was contradicting himself?

If you are sure that God is everywhere and are not unsure as the writer, you can tell us the dwelling place of God.

If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire according to 1 kings 19:11, 12
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MightySparrow: 1:18pm On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Funny analogy.....are you omnipresent?

🤣🤣🤣was the writer not sure or he was contradicting himself?

If you are sure that God is everywhere and are not unsure as the writer, you can tell us the dwelling place of God.

If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire according to 1 kings 19:11, 12
God is everywhere, every time.
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by Truthseeker10: 1:22pm On Mar 02, 2025
MightySparrow:
God is everywhere, every time.
If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire according to 1 kings 19:11, 12.

If you claim that Solomon was unsure of God's dwelling place, you can tell us the dwelling place of God.

was Solomon not sure or he was contradicting himself?
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MightySparrow: 1:25pm On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire according to 1 kings 19:11, 12.

If you claim that Solomon was unsure of God's dwelling place, you can tell us the dwelling place of God.

was Solomon not sure or he was contradicting himself?
It is like you are a potato.
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by Truthseeker10: 1:26pm On Mar 02, 2025
MightySparrow:
It is like you are a potato.
If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire according to 1 kings 19:11, 12.

If you claim that Solomon was unsure of God's dwelling place, you can tell us the dwelling place of God.

was Solomon not sure or he was contradicting himself?
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by MightySparrow: 1:35pm On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire according to 1 kings 19:11, 12.

If you claim that Solomon was unsure of God's dwelling place, you can tell us the dwelling place of God.

was Solomon not sure or he was contradicting himself?
I think you are a potato.
That is Solomon's opinion not God's

Jer.23.24 - Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.


Who is the One talking here?
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by Truthseeker10: 1:35pm On Mar 02, 2025
MightySparrow:
I think you are a potato.
If God is everywhere, why was he not in the wind earthquake and fire according to 1 kings 19:11, 12.

If you claim that Solomon was unsure of God's dwelling place, you can tell us the dwelling place of God.

was Solomon not sure or he was contradicting himself?
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by Gabrielshow24: 6:54pm On Mar 07, 2025
MightySparrow:
I think you are a potato.
That is Solomon's opinion not God's

Jer.23.24 - Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.


Who is the One talking here?
Potato is a befitting compliment 😂😂😂.

If you like quote God in FP(First person) he still won't bulge😂😂😂 - he has a Truth filter, a domain expansion of lies!
Re: Apostle Suleiman- If God Lives In Heaven Then Where Was He When Heaven Was Made by Truthseeker10: 8:03pm On Mar 07, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Potato is a befitting compliment 😂😂😂.

If you like quote God in FP(First person) he still won't bulge😂😂😂 - he has a Truth filter, a domain expansion of lies!
If you say God is everywhere, Explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.
Why was God not in the wind fire and earthquake?

If God is omnipresent, explain this statement by you: "From basic school of thought, God is everywhere by substance but not necessary by presence".


is God omnisubstance or omnipresent?
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